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Hi there,
After doing some tweak updating - primarily 'Schaps_AdvancedConfig_v2.0.2.0.CAB', it seems my email icon (on all panels) will no longer relinquish it's status of 2 unopened emails. I deleted all my mail accounts in the hope they would go away. I've also sent/received from an inbox which has a number of emails, 8 were received and yet it still stayed at 2 unopened.
Anyone seen this before? Any suggestions on why it is doing it?
Thanks
Well it fixed itself - As much as I'd love to give you a great explanation, I did nothing and they've disappeared.
[Added 30Euro Bounty]
Hello Everyone,
I seem to have run into a shortcoming of both WinMo 6.1 and 6.5.
Apparently (I have searched the forums for this quite extensively) there is no way to have a notification (sound or vibration) to notify the reception inform of an email that has been pushed from the exchange server directly to a subfolder of the inbox, based on a server side rule (i.e. having all the emails sent from my office go directly to my inbox subfolder that is labeled Work Emails).
I am sure plenty of people have exchange accounts with subfolders and would like to see this issue resolved. Moreover, I cannot understand how this feature is present on email clients for Symbian devices but is not supported in Microsoft's own Pocket Outlook (RoadSync for Symbian has this feature).
I am not a programmer, but it would appear bizarre that there is no way to associate a notification to an email, simply because it does not appear in the inbox but in a subfolder of the inbox. From a logical point of view, all that is required is to exted the notifications that apply to new emails in the inbox to ALL new emails both in inbox AND subfolders.
I am willing to pay 30Euros to whomever develops a hack/registry tweak/cab...whatever, that can:
1) make WinMo notify an email that has been pushed to a inbox subfolder;
2) integrate the solution in TF
So far the only solution that have been suggested are:
1) FlexMail 4, that is not compatible with TF or SPB shell
2) http://www.blackmonlabs.com/faq.html. However even this solution is not what I am looking for.
3) CheckMail 2.0 (http://www.soft32.com/download_234983.html) is an app that does exactly what I am looking for, I am now testing if it works with TF3d
Please help,
[I honestly cannot understand how this issue has not been addressed yet]
did you try second today or similar software that allows wmToday and touchflo to run at the same time?
it may work with http://www.blackmonlabs.com/faq.html.
Let me see if I understand this correctly.
I install second today, and for that today screen I install blackmonlab application; therefore, on my second today screen I would get subfolder email notifications.
However, if I understand correctly, I would still have no form of notification when in TF3D today screen. I would still have to switch to my second today screen and verify whether I have received new emails or not.
I don't know....this appears to be so strange. I cannot believe all the Microsoft Exchange users have not in some way addressed this.
Let's see if the addition of a small bounty attracts some good willed programmers.
I am sure there must be a number of people who could use this fix.
nsane said:
Let me see if I understand this correctly.
I install second today, and for that today screen I install blackmonlab application; therefore, on my second today screen I would get subfolder email notifications.
However, if I understand correctly, I would still have no form of notification when in TF3D today screen. I would still have to switch to my second today screen and verify whether I have received new emails or not.
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yeah dude give it a try before dismissing the idea. it might work well for you
also, whats the name of the app that adds today screen as a tab in touchflo. it might work better than second today or mtoday
I don't know.
In fairness, I am new to WinMO as I recently moved from a nokia communicator E90; I also have some Blackberry experience, since my GF has one.
Honestly, I just love WinMO so far. However, the whole messaging system is pretty weak compared to other platforms and I am rather unsatisfied.
I have not tried SPB mobile shell 3.0, as of yet.
I have mainly used TF Rhodium version and Titanium.
I really like TF, however, I would get rid of both the SMS and Email tabs and replace them with one unique tab that incorporates a fast smooth messaging client. For someone who receives 30/40 SMS per day and about 80 emails, the TF is just very inefficient.
If there was a way to integrate a POWERFUL messaging client in either TF or SPB I would definitely try it. By integrating I mean a Messaging client that:
1) notifies me about SMS, Email (and subfolder emails) vibrating/ringing;
2) Visually modifies my TF3DHome/TitaniumToday/SPB now/ screen showing an envelope and the number of unread messages;
3) provides a pop-up preview (not necessary);
4) one finger tap from Home/today/spb now/ straight to the new Message (no scrolling/clicking to the tab, then clicking on the envelope).
Perhaps there is something like this and I am unaware of it?
hi, does the check mail 2.0 supported TOUCH FLO3D? i went to the description link it says only displays on Today screen.
CheckMail 2.0 does not support touchflo or any other Graphic shell.
Ok someone just messaged me with a solution which appears to be rather interesting.
Using BBconnect and BIS service from phone carrier or alternatively BBconnect and BES (for those who work in a company that runs a BES server).
Apparently BB connect can be integrated in TF3d without issues.
Can someone confirm perhaps?
Did you ever find a good solution to this problem? I too am dumbfounded that this is not natively supported, even in WM 6.5 which I'm running on my Fuze (Energy Rom 8/1 build).
Come on people, there has to be a solution!!!
that feature has never been supported by pocket outlook, nor the PC version of Outlook. ALthough the PC version finally gave the user the ability to create reminders based upon new email into a folder or email specifics. Likewise, PC version of Outlook will not give reminders on flagged items that are not in the inbox and you used to have to use an Outlook plugin to get to do that.
smittyofdhs said:
that feature has never been supported by pocket outlook, nor the PC version of Outlook. ALthough the PC version finally gave the user the ability to create reminders based upon new email into a folder or email specifics. Likewise, PC version of Outlook will not give reminders on flagged items that are not in the inbox and you used to have to use an Outlook plugin to get to do that.
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I can definitely do this in the PC version of outlook with the built-in Desktop Alerts. It seems like it would be such a simple and useful piece of functionality to implement in WM. Anyone else heard of a good way to do this, especially in WM 6.5?
THe only solution I have found for this, that does not require a second today screen or closing down TF3D is a #rd party app called watch flag.
Here is the home page http://www.watchflag.com/
I used it with WM6.1, it did the job, I found the interface to be a bit clunky, and did not woirk entirely the way I wanted.
That is probably my fault becaue I could not get it to notify me on specific subfolders, I could only make it notify me on all subfolders.
In the programs defense it was over a year ago and has had revisions since then.
The other issues are the program is not free, but has a two week trial and while TF3D can be running , i think it just has regular on screen messages and does not integrate with TF3D message notifications.
Like i said I have not used it in a Year.
Okay, my first thoughts on the Hero.
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Hardware is lovely. The unit feels just right in the hand, and graphite colour is great.
Screen is very sharp and has excellent colour.
Sense UI is a huge improvement over stock Android is virtually every way.
HTC E-Mail client is great compared to standard cupcake version.
Browser is very fast, and text wrapping is very effective.
Phone is now unlocked and running on Vodafone (thanks to the folks at unlock-now.com). It detects this, and offers to update all my settings accordingly. Nice.
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HTC Smart Dialer doesn't correctly display contacts that only have a company name in them. The numbers show up but with 'unknown' next to them. They display properly in the 'People' application, so it's definitely a HTC bug (I seem to remember the same problem with early versions of this dialer on WM).
GMail client won't let me set a 'reply-to' field. I use GMail for all my e-mail, but use a forwarding service (pobox.com) so want to set my reply to field accordingly. I can get the functionality by using the HTC e-mail client, but then I lose HTML mail capability.
GMail and HTC Mail don't integrate in the mail widget. You can only see accounts configured using HTC Mail.
Flash in browser is very hit and miss. Some simply stuff works, but not much.
Standard calendar application is rubbish. The iPhone is way better here. I guess I'll be looking for a third party alternative.
I'll post more as I discover it.
Bagpuss.
Cool, thanks for the quick update.
When you say the standard calendar is rubbish, can you elaberate more on this? I use the calendar quite a bit and was hoping there would be a widget to show tasks/appointments on my home screen.
Any chance of a video going round the calendar or a good detailed explanation of it?
Sorry to ask again, but the reviews say that the phone WILL sync directly with Outlook (not just exchange) and I have ordered one on that understanding. Could you confirm this for me, please? Ta...
bigbamboo5 said:
Sorry to ask again, but the reviews say that the phone WILL sync directly with Outlook (not just exchange) and I have ordered one on that understanding. Could you confirm this for me, please? Ta...
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Sorry, don't know about this as I don't use Windows or Outlook.
From what I understand, you can sync with Outlook, but you need to use the HTC Sync software. The only problem is that HTC haven't yet made the Hero version available for download. If you go to their support site, they don't have a section for the Hero yet. I'm guessing this will change once the phone is officially released SIM free.
Bagpuss.
nicelad_uk said:
Cool, thanks for the quick update.
When you say the standard calendar is rubbish, can you elaberate more on this? I use the calendar quite a bit and was hoping there would be a widget to show tasks/appointments on my home screen.
Any chance of a video going round the calendar or a good detailed explanation of it?
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The main problem is that you can't get a month view, and be able to move across days to see what they actually contain. On my E71, you see the month calendar on the left, and a small pane on the right which changes to show the events for each day. On the iPhone, you get something similar, but see the details at the bottom of the screen. On the Hero, you get a full screen month display, but have to click on individual days to see the detail. Not a big thing for some, but it's a change to what I like.
You can go to what they call 'Agenda' view which gives you a long list of all upcoming appointments, but you can't get a week view. There is a day view, however.
There is a calendar widget, and it does show today and tomorrow details, but it's very small.
Hope that helps,
Bagpuss.
"Phone is now unlocked and running on Vodafone (thanks to the folks at unlock-now.com). It detects this, and offers to update all my settings accordingly. Nice."
Hi I´m newby spanish user.
I just bougth an HTC Hero with orange and I will like to use the phone with movistart => I need to free the phone. Is it the same as unlock the phone? Is a good method unlock using emai? Did you do it at "http://hero.unlock-now.com/sim-unlock-HTC-Hero/"?
A lot of thanks, sorry for my bad english.
Best regards,
zeed82
Any Speed Issues noticed? Can You give us a brief Comparison to fE iphone 3G, 3GS or maybe TouchHD/Blackstone?
Thanks for the quick little review!
Just a quick couple of questions:
- Im not believing the battery life some have stated as the phone seems to be fully working round the clock
- Can the handset be rotated the other landscape way? So that the trackball is on the left side?
zeed82 said:
"Phone is now unlocked and running on Vodafone (thanks to the folks at unlock-now.com). It detects this, and offers to update all my settings accordingly. Nice."
Hi I´m newby spanish user.
I just bougth an HTC Hero with orange and I will like to use the phone with movistart => I need to free the phone. Is it the same as unlock the phone? Is a good method unlock using emai? Did you do it at "http://hero.unlock-now.com/sim-unlock-HTC-Hero/"?
A lot of thanks, sorry for my bad english.
Best regards,
zeed82
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That's exactly were I got it unlocked. They were incredibly fast. I had my unlock code within about 10 minutes of ordering.
Simply insert your foreign SIM, it will prompt you for the unlock code. Enter the code from unlock-now.com, and it all works.
Bagpuss.
sphinxy said:
Thanks for the quick little review!
Just a quick couple of questions:
- Im not believing the battery life some have stated as the phone seems to be fully working round the clock
- Can the handset be rotated the other landscape way? So that the trackball is on the left side?
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Not sure on the battery life at the moment, as I've not had it long enough to tell.
Sadly, you can't rotate it so the trackball is on the left. It's only a software thing, though, so HTC might implement it in future.
Bagpuss.
Hi Bagpuss,
I have a question. I have two different gmail addresses that I normally use. Is it possible to have the two accounts setup in the phone? Basically I want to know how it handles two e-mail accounts and two google calendar accounts.
Thanks mate.
bigbamboo5 said:
Sorry to ask again, but the reviews say that the phone WILL sync directly with Outlook (not just exchange) and I have ordered one on that understanding. Could you confirm this for me, please? Ta...
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yes the sync software for the orange phone is on the micro sd card provided you plug it in go to mass storage mode and then run the .exe I have syncned all my contacts and calendar , unfortunatly you cannot sync any other outlook items this way currently
Bagpuss said:
GMail client won't let me set a 'reply-to' field.
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you set up the reply to address on the Gmail website.
It's in Settings > accounts, and it sends as whatever you have the default email address set to in the 'send mail as' section.
stilghar said:
Is it possible to have the two accounts setup in the phone?
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No, you can not be signed in to two Gmail accounts at once. you can set up a second Gmail account in the mail application to access your mail from the second account, but i don't know any way to access calendars from a second account unless you can share calendars between accounts. maybe that will work?
How is the screen outdoors?
rhedgehog said:
No, you can not be signed in to two Gmail accounts at once. you can set up a second Gmail account in the mail application to access your mail from the second account, but i don't know any way to access calendars from a second account unless you can share calendars between accounts. maybe that will work?
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Thanks, I think that will do. I can sign in with one of the Gmail accounts and set the other one in the mail application. Regarding the calendars I just noticed that all my google calendars are only in one of the accounts. So I will sign in on the phone with that one and use the other only in the mail application.
The only problem will be moving all my contacts from one account to the other...
Boesman1 said:
Any Speed Issues noticed? Can You give us a brief Comparison to fE iphone 3G, 3GS or maybe TouchHD/Blackstone?
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Just got mine as well,
I noticed that there was considerable amount of lag for the first hour of using it, but now all the lag is gone and its working amazingly well.
HTC have taken a lot of the ideas from this site and implemented it in the sense ui, Customising the phone is fun and really easy, the only thing I'm unhappy with is being unable to get my Hotmail, and I don't really want it forwarded to my gmail.
xdaman85 said:
the only thing I'm unhappy with is being unable to get my Hotmail, and I don't really want it forwarded to my gmail.
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Correct me if wrong, but you can always create a new dummy gmail account, forward your mail to that, and set in the gmail website that your 'identity mail address' (from address AND reply-to) is your hotmail address.
that way other people will not notice you use gmail to retrieve it (unless they look in the headers). Thing is you can't manage your hotmail account that way (delete / move / mark as read your mail)
dipje said:
Correct me if wrong, but you can always create a new dummy gmail account, forward your mail to that, and set in the gmail website that your 'identity mail address' (from address AND reply-to) is your hotmail address.
that way other people will not notice you use gmail to retrieve it (unless they look in the headers). Thing is you can't manage your hotmail account that way (delete / move / mark as read your mail)
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Funnily I got hotmail working through the standard email app, it doesn't push the email but you can set the frequency at which it syncs, so it's good enough.
Also while using the hero i'v noticed that some times the phone doesn't respond after unlocking and it takes a couple of seconds to respond to your touch.
got mine this morning
only just got home to play with it.....
must say it really "feels"like a nice phone....time to play now
hi all to the lucky owners
reading mobile-review and engadget review they say about slowness and sluggyness and lag and devilsh ****ness
is it becouse they have some prototipe sample or do you confirm all this lag and slowness ?
thanks guys
Whilst using the Galaxy S I have come to miss a few features I had on my HD2.
Does anyone have any input on the following email and text message queries?
1. Email/Text Notification
On both my HD2 and the Desire (Desire email only) the email & text icon shows in green how many email/text messages you have.
Is there any way to have this feature on the Galaxy S?
Note: I know at the Lock Screen the Jigsaw displays a count but this does not indicate what is Email and what is Text.
2. All New Emails on a PC showing as Read
Iv'e noticed even when my Galaxy has it's screen switched off and untouched (in other words I have not checked the email messages), if later when I go to my PC it's showing all the messages as read (the Headings are no longer Bold Text).
Has anyone come across a method to reverse this?
As in when I go to my PC I want to see any new messages I have not yet read as Marked as Unread.
3. Spam Content
I've noticed all messages including Spam are shown on the Galaxy S in the Inbox.
The trouble here is not so much as it being displayed but unlike on the PC which has a dedicated Spam Folder you can't identify which messages are genuine and which are Spam.
Is there any way to sort this out?
I'm dreading clicking on one message only to find out it's Spam.
4. Different Sound Ringtone/Notifications for either Email or Texts?
On the HD2 if a new email or text came in it sounded off a dedicated sound/ringtone, or if I'd missed a Text Message the HD2 flashed Green.
I know on the Galaxy S there is no LED notification to work this idea on but I miss having different sounds.
As an example ~ I'm constantly hearing the phone play a sound ~ which I then have to pick up time after time just to find out if it's an email or text message.
On the HD2 if it were a text message sound I'd pick it up and read it, whereas if it were an email sound I'd leave it until I was ready.
5. No Filter Support on Android Mail using services other than GMail
On the PC I use Yahoo for mail and like other email programs it supports filters where you can add as many folders as you wish.
I have many folders which when mail comes to my yahoo account is automatically filtered to a particular folder ~ as in I have a filter marked 'Brother' where all my Brother's email gets dropped automatically into and when new mail comes in his folder it is shown in bold and indicates such with a number of how many email messages he has sent.
On Windows Mobile, i.e. the Touch HD & HD2 in particular to have the phones display mail that is sent to these filtered folders you select to Manage Folders and add them to the list of messages to download to the phone and view/reply to.
On Android i.e. the Galaxy S there does not appear to be any means of viewing these filtered folders. As such all mail sent to these folders is not received by the phone.
Therefore, does anyone know of a method like on Windows Mobile where you can display these folders?
6. Text Message Character Counting
Again on Windows Mobile Touch HD & HD2 when you went to compose a Text Message whilst you tapped away at your message it would count the characters being used.
Although most of us have an unlimited sms account I used to find this feature useful in that it at least showed me how many text messages it would be to generate the long message.
Quite often I used to try and get the character count down to a single text message quote of just 160 characters or 240 for two messages.
So, the question here is ~ how do we get Android to show the character count?
7. Replying to Yahoo Email Messages directly from the App 'Internet'
I have created a bookmark icon on the Galaxy S which automatically launches the App Internet then the bookmark Yahoo Mail.
I've noticed every time I try to reply to an email message from within the Internet yahoo client (not the Android mail App) it will not allow you to add any text.
Does anyone else have this problem?
Notes:
Item 5 added Monday 21 June 2010 ~ see Post 14.
Item 6 added Tuesday 22 June 2010 ~ see Post 17.
Item 7 added Tuesday 22 June 2010 ~ see Post 19
For number 2 and 3, do you use Gmail, Exchange, POP or IMAP for your mail?
helinus said:
For number 2 and 3, do you use Gmail, Exchange, POP or IMAP for your mail?
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It's BT's Yahoo
From what i can see om BT's website there email-offering does only support POP which does not update read-status to the server.
Are you sure you get new emails to your PC when your phone downloads emails aswell?
usually when something downloads emails from an POP-server it takes the emails from the server so that it's only available om the thing that downloaded the email.
Beards, I don't know how it is on the Yahoo email but on the Gmail Android application we go in settings and we change the sound notification.
For SMS in settings isn't there a sound notification alert setting? usually on Android there is and you click it and you decide which ringtone you want, same for email.
Try ChompSMS from the Market (along with Handcent it's the best one in my opinion)
you can customize the ringtones, etc.. and it's a very nice application for SMS (also bubble chat).
helinus said:
From what i can see om BT's website there email-offering does only support POP which does not update read-status to the server.
Are you sure you get new emails to your PC when your phone downloads emails aswell?
usually when something downloads emails from an POP-server it takes the emails from the server so that it's only available om the thing that downloaded the email.
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Thanks helinus but all I know is on the HD2 when it receives emails it does not alter anything on the PC's Yahoo Mail web page.
Even further, with the HD2 if you have a look at the email messages and mark them as read, when you next go to your PC the messages are still shown as new marked as unread.
This appears to be totally different with the Galaxy S.
I had a talk with my Brother who has a Desire and he says like the HD2 the email messages on the PC remain unread.
Archius said:
Beards, I don't know how it is on the Yahoo email but on the Gmail Android application we go in settings and we change the sound notification.
For SMS in settings isn't there a sound notification alert setting? usually on Android there is and you click it and you decide which ringtone you want, same for email.
Try ChompSMS from the Market (along with Handcent it's the best one in my opinion)
you can customize the ringtones, etc.. and it's a very nice application for SMS (also bubble chat).
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You are so, so correct and I can not understand how on earth I missed this.
First at the Messages settings I altered the ringtone then I went to the Yahoo email settings and altered this to a different ringtone.....
Now I have different sounds for both text & email.... thanks Archius.
All I need to do now is sort out items 1, 2 & 3.
you're welcome
for item 1. you can download Chompsms or Handcent and both have a "widget/icon" that has a number next to it that indicates how many new sms you have. (or maybe you can find an app in the market that tells you how many new sms's you have, search for "sms" in the market or try different words)
For the email part, hmmmm.. I use gmail and there's an app that includes a widget for gmail with the same icon as the original while at the same time revealing how many emails we have with a number on the icon... try to find something similar for Yahoo mail ? but it won't be for the lock screen since this phone is brand new, we'll have to wait til people make applications for the phone.
part 3.. I use gmail and it has labels in the gmail app on Android and there's a separate Spam folder... not sure why Yahoo is like that :S.. same for the part where it "reads" the emails on your desktop without you reading them on the phone..
Archius said:
you're welcome
for item 1. you can download Chompsms or Handcent and both have a "widget/icon" that has a number next to it that indicates how many new sms you have. (or maybe you can find an app in the market that tells you how many new sms's you have, search for "sms" in the market or try different words)
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Thanks, I'll have a look at what the Market can offer.
For the email part, hmmmm.. I use gmail and there's an app that includes a widget for gmail with the same icon as the original while at the same time revealing how many emails we have with a number on the icon... try to find something similar for Yahoo mail ? but it won't be for the lock screen since this phone is brand new, we'll have to wait til people make applications for the phone.
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Interesting... I have both a Gmail & Yahoo account.
I'll check out the GMail App ~ do you have a name for it?
I'll see if there's anything similar for Yahoo.
part 3.. I use gmail and it has labels in the gmail app on Android and there's a separate Spam folder... not sure why Yahoo is like that :S.. same for the part where it "reads" the emails on your desktop without you reading them on the phone..
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Yes, I see what you mean with GMail ~ it does indeed have an item in the menu named View Labels.
Interestingly there was no Spam folder though.
Also under settings, theres an item named Labels which you can select which are synchronized.
However, back at Yahoo account (for anything other than Gmail)
It's a much better looking account and has more tabs for selecting Inbox/Drafts/Sent/Trash but no Spam.
Nor is there anything in the settings to show any labels.
I suppose as you don't use Yahoo you can't really comment on Item 2 ~ ' All New Emails on a PC showing as Read'.
This one has me flummoxed.
As I mentioned to helinus it's totally different to the HD2 and even on a Desire it doesn't effect the content on the server... Simply switch on the PC, check your email messages and they are still there all marked as unread.
I wouldn't mind so much if after I had checked the messages first on the Galaxy it then marked all messages read as read but no..... You don't even have to switch the Galaxy S on to find when you go to the PC all messages are marked as read.
Right mate... must go.
I have a speech to write tonight and hopefully a little time to do a Market search or two.......
This is the application:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/se.alexanderblom.gmailunreadcount
Gmail Unread Count, simply download from market and use it as a widget (not from the app tray but from the widgets menu)
and simply set up the image to "post something" i forget the name (I no longer have my Android cell I sold it today and getting ready for galaxy s tomorrow or after tomorrow)
There are many images to choose from, my favorite is the post... because it's the same as the 2.1 version.
I was using version 1.5 of Android and I THINK there was Spam folder in Gmail hehe, I do remember it being there... would be strange if they removed it in 2.1.. I doubt it, maybe you should try to make it "sync all" for spam in the settings menu of labels.
have a good night and speech =)
cool info, somewhat similar to what i was looking for
Also, try K9Mail from the market. It is one of the BEST email apps bar none and it is free. It may provide what you are looking for - link is for appbrain.
or this?
http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.jonasl.gmailnotifier2
Okay... having now had time to play with the settings and less time in theatre, with the help of friends here I've managed to sort out 1 & 4.
I didn't go with any outside Apps/Widgets. In the end I found for SMS, as soon as you switch on the phone at the lock screen if there is any text messages you get a 'jigsaw pattern' with a peace of a jigsaw taken from the complete jigsaw and marked in solid green.
As to the email notification it's now a simple matter of pulling down the Notification window at the top of the screen. It displays all emails from all accounts.
It also shows if you have any text messages as well.
All I need now to do is solve 2 & 3 but I suppose just like 1 & 4 it's a case of less theatre and more hands on the Galaxy S.
Right......
I have another query to add to the list:-
5. No Filter Support on Android Mail
On the PC I use Yahoo for mail and like other email programs it supports filters where you can add as many folders as you wish.
I have many folders which when mail comes to my yahoo account is automatically filtered to a particular folder ~ as in I have a filter marked 'Brother' where all my Brother's email gets dropped automatically into and when new mail comes in his folder it is shown in bold and indicates such with a number of how many email messages he has sent.
On Windows Mobile, i.e. the Touch HD & HD2 in particular to have the phones display mail that is sent to these filtered folders you select to Manage Folders and add them to the list of messages to download to the phone and view/reply to.
On Android i.e. the Galaxy S there does not appear to be any means of viewing these filtered folders. As such all mail sent to these folders is not received by the phone.
Therefore, does anyone know of a method like on Windows Mobile where you can display these folders?
I'll add this item 5 to my opening post so that anyone new will understand all 5 items.
Yahoo mail does not support IMAP and therefore no folders.
I once had IMAP on yahoo with old touch hd but tried and never got it back.
IMAP by nature will ALWAYS mark messages read if read on another mail host, you probably were using POP.
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livegod said:
Yahoo mail does not support IMAP and therefore no folders.
I once had IMAP on yahoo with old touch hd but tried and never got it back.
IMAP by nature will ALWAYS mark messages read if read on another mail host, you probably were using POP.
Mark
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Then tell me Mark how the heck does the HD2 on Windows Mobile support it?
Here's another question to add ~ Text Message Character Counting
6. Text Message Character Counting
Again on Windows Mobile Touch HD & HD2 when you went to compose a Text Message whilst you tapped away at your message it would count the characters being used.
Although most of us have an unlimited sms account I used to find this feature useful in that it at least showed me how many text messages it would be to generate the long message.
Quite often I used to try and get the character count down to a single text message quote of just 160 characters or 240 for two messages.
So, the question here is ~ how do we get Android to show the character count?
Get Chompsms or Handcent Beards to have character counting lol
now I got the phone yesterday finally !!
and yes Gmail does have Spam, and has all folders.
consider using gmail though I know you would prefer to use Yahoo..
Archius said:
Get Chompsms or Handcent Beards to have character counting lol
now I got the phone yesterday finally !!
and yes Gmail does have Spam, and has all folders.
consider using gmail though I know you would prefer to use Yahoo..
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Hi Archius,
Pleased you got your Galaxy S.
I'm afraid due to my business commitments and other ties I have to use Yahoo.
Besides, why should we have to change a browser just to accommodate the Galaxy S?
I've found a 'workaround' but it's not ideal......
I've created a bookmark icon which automatically loads Internet Yahoo Mail.
At least I get to see exactly what I see on the PC.
Trouble is I've now come across another problem which I'll have to add to the list and that is replying to an email message from within the client's (Yahoo) browser. See below.
7. Replying to Yahoo Email Messages directly from the App 'Internet'
I have created a bookmark icon on the Galaxy S which automatically launches the App Internet then the bookmark Yahoo Mail.
I've noticed every time I try to reply to an email message from within the Internet yahoo client (not the Android mail App) it will not allow you to add any text.
Does anyone else have this problem?
That's a strange problem and I would not like that at all!
Try using another Internet app.
From the Market try "Dolphin"
also try "xscope"
try "opera"
"skyfire" also
try these four (start with xscope since I think it is the fastest and most stable)
and tell me how it goes =) I hope it will work out for you.
Did you try searching for an app called Yahoo? or k9mail. etc...
I'm tempted -- the hardware platform seems to be very close to what I'd want. (Don't like that the front buttons aren't hard-buttons, but I can probably live with that.)
I'm waiting (for now) to hear some feedback about Exchange integration (calendar sync, push email, contacts sync.)
(I got (and returned) two Android phones so far: an N1 on the day they came out, and a Galaxy S (pretty nearly the day they came out) and ended up returning both. (History: Blackberry 857, Blackberry 5810, Blackberry 6710, Blackberry 7290, Blackberry 8310. Yes, I'm used to my Exchange email and calendar being rock-solid.))
Questions for anybody who gets their hands on one and has Exchange:
- Does calendar sync work? Comments?
- Can you: accept/reject/tentative meeting requests from email app?
- Can you: accept/reject/tentative meeting requests from calendar app?
- Can you create a meeting request?
- Can you view availability?
- Can you change the meeting reminder tone? (Believe it or not, on the Galaxy S running 2.1, there's no way to do this.)
- Does email push? Comments?
- Do email subfolders push?
- Can you move messages into subfolders?
- Can you view and/or search server subfolders?
- Can you get a unified view of your Exchange and Google/GAFYD inbox?
- Can you access the GAL?
- Do contacts sync?
- Do contacts in subfolders sync? Can you choose subfolders to sync or not?
- Can you do these things in the stock apps, or do you have to use Touchdown or K9 or Moxier to get the results you want?
Thanks.
From what you list, Touchdown would be your best bet I think. Granted, I haven't used (or have ever heard of) K9 or Moxier so I don't know how they are but I have used Touchdown since Android 1.5 and it's been fantastic. Last night I got my G2 and decided to try the stock Exchange in Android to see how well it fared and it's fine for basic Exchange email but that's about it. A co-worker of mine swears by it but I'm wondering if he just doesn't want to pay for Touchdown? Then again all he does is basic email. If you're doing more like meetings, availability, etc... then you'd need to look at something other than stock Exchange. In my case, I'm sticking with Touchdown. I don't know if you've used Touchdown at all but you can download it (fully functional) and use it for 5 (or is it 7?) days before it asks you to purchase it.
Now for K9 and Moxier...I haven't even heard of them but will check them out myself to see if they are a better way to go than Touchdown.
Exchange integration is very important to me and so far, this phone is outperforming the Blackberry that I used before I got the G2. Granted, I was not on a BES with the BB; I imagine that there's pretty much nothing better than a Blackberry on a BES when it comes to Exchange.
Here are answers to your questions:
Calendar sync works great. I create an event in Outlook and see it on my phone really quickly, and vice versa. I cannot say that the sync is instananeous but does the trick.
Accepting/rejecting/creating meetings and availability I've never had the opportunity to do, so I don't know.
You can change the overall meeting reminder tone, but not for each individual meeting. At least not natively....there may be an app available for that.
Email pushes. Sometimes instantaneously, sometimes with a bit of very reasonable lag (30sec - 1min).
I'm able to access my email subfolder on my phone. The sent messages sync between my Outlook and my phone, as well as my junk mail folder syncs also (unfortunately).
It appears I cannot move emails from one folder into another (bummer).
It also appears that not only can I not search through any of my emails, I also cannot copy/paste from the body of the emails I receive either (major bummer).
I only have one email address syncing right now.....but I believe you can have the inbox either split your two email addresses into their own respective inboxes, or combine the two and show all in one. I did this on the Vibrant while I had it for a very short time. I can say though that Gmail has its own icon and MAY not show in the general Email application. I don't know for sure as I don't really even use gmail and have not tried adding it under the general Email application.
The GAL is supported and it's pretty cool cause I can start typing a recipient's name in the "to" field in my email and it'll auto search the GAL.
Contacts sync in the same manner as email/calendar sync.
I haven't seen any options to choose contact subfolders to sync. I will say though that distribution lists/contact groups don't sync.
Everything I've said in this post deals with the native Email application of Android 2.2. I am not using any third party application.
Tasks and Notes do not sync.
Best of luck to you.
I have been using TouchDown for +1 year. Started on the MyTouch 3G and it is easier to use on the G2.
The G2 integration is basic: calandar, email and contacts only . Touchdown is a full fledged Exchange client that allows you do everything you can do from your desktop. Took less than 2 mins to configure and it was up and running. There was 0 issue transfering the license from the myTouch to the G2 as they have integrated the license to your google email account, not the phone you purchased it for.
^ Stock does contacts sync too.
The Froyo email client supports Activesync version 12, that eliminated some of the limitations that the stock exchange intergation had. On my G2 I have 3 exchange accounts setup. all sync'ing calendar, contacts, email add, moves, changes and invites. In addition to that I can sync my public folders, most particuarly my GALs.
So that there is no confusion on what I am saying:
Here are important points:
- It is possible to synchronize ALL public/shared folders to the devices. This
includes emails, contacts, calendars and tasks.
- The folders must be explicitly selected for synchornization
- Only few devices can display more than one calendar or contact folder, so all calendars, and contacts even shared will be contained in the native folder. Only a problem with you use multiple accounts.
The only current Activesync limitations with contacts are as follows:
Activesync can synchronize up to 3 email address. Phone number synchronization is limited to 2 Home numbers, 1 Home Fax, 1 Mobile, 1 Pager, 3 Work (one will be labeled 'Company Main') and one Work Fax number."
So you do have options, but as you can see from the other posts, what you want to do can definitely be supported.
I call BS on you syncing tasks and being able to move emails between folders natively.
I bought a license for Moxier Mail back in the days before Android 2.x. I don't keep any third party EAS clients around anymore thanks to the built-in EAS. However, if you absolutely need features like GAL, accept/reject meetings, availability, basically anything beyond mail and very basic calendaring, then you better get one of the third party EAS clients.
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I call BS on you syncing tasks and being able to move emails between folders natively.
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What exchange server version are you trying to do it on, and what is the version of Activesync?
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What exchange server version are you trying to do it on, and what is the version of Activesync?
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I have no idea......my school runs it.
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I have no idea......my school runs it.
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Other than your phone how do you connect to your email account?
For what it's worth the implementation of ActiveSync on the G2 is not supporting any security provisioning.
Passcode lock is not enforced, and I am not 100% about remote wipe. I will be testing at some point in time tomorrow.
I will be contacting HTC tomorrow, T-Mobile didn't have any info about the lack of support for these features.
I was surprised as this is the only 2.2 phone I have tested that does not support these features. (Droid 2, Droid X, HTC 4G, CM6 on my HD2)
Remarkably HTC was even less help than T-Mobile
I was basically informed that not enough people had complained about the bungled implementation of ActiveSync yet, so they didnt have any further information and were not investigating a fix.
It was a nice 12 hours G2, but it looks like you are going back to Tmo
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Other than your phone how do you connect to your email account?
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Outlook 2010 direct to the exchange server
mark925 said:
From what you list, Touchdown would be your best bet I think. Granted, I haven't used (or have ever heard of) K9 or Moxier so I don't know how they are but I have used Touchdown since Android 1.5 and it's been fantastic. Last night I got my G2 and decided to try the stock Exchange in Android to see how well it fared and it's fine for basic Exchange email but that's about it.
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I tried Touchdown back on the N1, and I recall being very unimpressed with the UI; I'm afraid I don't remember specifics, but it didn't leave a good taste.
When you say "it's fine for basic Exchange", can you clarify what you consider non-basic? (I would, for example, consider everything I mentioned to be "basic"; non-basic would be delegate management, category administration, rules....) Thanks.
I tried Touchdown when I tried the N1, and was so unimpressed that I don't think I tried it again on the Galaxy S. Moxier doesn't appear to be updating MoxierMail, but it worked pretty well. K9 was new to me, but appealed because it was rapidly evolving with a strong, tech oriented, development and discussion community -- a couple of small bugs I found were reported, tested, and fixed during just the week I had the Galaxy S.
UPDATE: Just saw this on the Touchdown site: "TouchDown does not work with POP3 or IMAP servers". In other words, I couldn't use it as a single client for Exchange and non-Exchange accounts; for me, that's a killer.
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Exchange integration is very important to me and so far, this phone is outperforming the Blackberry that I used before I got the G2. Granted, I was not on a BES with the BB; I imagine that there's pretty much nothing better than a Blackberry on a BES when it comes to Exchange.
Here are answers to your questions:
Calendar sync works great. I create an event in Outlook and see it on my phone really quickly, and vice versa. I cannot say that the sync is instananeous but does the trick.
Accepting/rejecting/creating meetings and availability I've never had the opportunity to do, so I don't know.
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Email pushes. Sometimes instantaneously, sometimes with a bit of very reasonable lag (30sec - 1min).
I'm able to access my email subfolder on my phone. The sent messages sync between my Outlook and my phone, as well as my junk mail folder syncs also (unfortunately).
It appears I cannot move emails from one folder into another (bummer).
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The GAL is supported and it's pretty cool cause I can start typing a recipient's name in the "to" field in my email and it'll auto search the GAL.
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I haven't seen any options to choose contact subfolders to sync. I will say though that distribution lists/contact groups don't sync.
Everything I've said in this post deals with the native Email application of Android 2.2. I am not using any third party application. [...]
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aedv, thanks for your response -- I'm a little confused though. You say you don't have BES, but your back end is Exchange? If that's right, thanks -- valuable info. I'd appreciate it if you'd check the contacts subfolder thing; if you're willing, PM me your email address, and I'll send you a test meeting invite so we can see if you get the option to accept/decline.
My back end is Exchange, and I did not use BES while I was on my Blackberry. The Exchange server is run by my school and they don't have a BES.
I tried contact subfolders and that didn't work. I sent myself an invitation to a meeting and I was given the option on the phone to either accept or deny the invitation, so there's your answer.
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The Froyo email client supports Activesync version 12, that eliminated some of the limitations that the stock exchange intergation had. On my G2 I have 3 exchange accounts setup. all sync'ing calendar, contacts, email add, moves, changes and invites. In addition to that I can sync my public folders, most particuarly my GALs.
So that there is no confusion on what I am saying:[...]
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markdurant, thanks -- despite your great answer, I'm still a tiny bit confused. Can you clarify re:
- contacts subfolders: I have a main Contacts folder, with a subfolder "manufacturing contacts". Can I cause the subfolder to sync? (I understand from your answer that the appearance on the device may be "flat", i.e. all in one giant list; that's ok.)
- message filing: You are able to move messages from Inbox to other Exchange folders?
- Common inbox: You mention having three Exchange boxes; do you get a consolidated view, perhaps with color coding? Do you have any non-Exchange (e.g. Google) email accounts?
Thanks again.
Nothign can be worse than the Vibrant's exchange integration... for some reason it will NOT sync the majority my calendar entries on my exchange account. Email is fine but the calendar on the vibrant is just terrible. Worked fine on the nexus, and has sync'd fine on any nokia (symbian s60/maemo) phone I've used as well.
One of the reasons I'm ditching the vibrant and jumping to g2 goodness.
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For what it's worth the implementation of ActiveSync on the G2 is not supporting any security provisioning.
Passcode lock is not enforced, and I am not 100% about remote wipe. I will be testing at some point in time tomorrow.
I will be contacting HTC tomorrow, T-Mobile didn't have any info about the lack of support for these features.
I was surprised as this is the only 2.2 phone I have tested that does not support these features. (Droid 2, Droid X, HTC 4G, CM6 on my HD2)
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How does it not support passcodes? It's a feature of Stock Android 2.2...
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How does it not support passcodes? It's a feature of Stock Android 2.2...
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My point exactly...