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Hey all,
I'm new to WM5 (or WM for that matters) and picked up my MDA from Tmobile a few days ago. I noticed windows becomes very sluggish at times (takes a long time for a key response). It's so slow sometimes it looks like it has hung in between program changes
I'm just running the basic programs that came with the phone and not using SD card at all.
Is this because I'm running low on Program memory? I noticed my program is at around 5 MB when this happens.
Should this even be happening w/ the basic apps? It seems to help when I start stop some of the running programs.
I hope I don't have OC the damn thing to run basic apps.
ROM version: 1.8.10.2 WWE (any better out there?)
ROM date: 12/10/05
I have an 8125 and it can get slow when running a few large programs of things. Like PIE or Opera & Media Player or Core. I will also tell you that its not an extremely fast device but it is in part due to the fact that programs are not writen to utilize the processor the Wizard has. That's what I have come to understand atleast. If anyone else has input on it please share.
Later; Lew
I was hoping Opera would be less "fat" but from you have indicated that might not be the case. I wonder if Verizon's XV6700 make a difference in speed since their version is 400mhz.
I figure they're pretty much the same device and decided to go w/ TMobile since it's GSM.
Back to the slow issue, I notice the apps don't really close even if you close them. I have go to System to manually stop them to get the RAM back. Is that normal?
It is also slow because of memory design. There are more topics on this. You can't lose data when battery is empty, but type of memory used is slower.
Well thats a trade I am willing to make. I was always checking my battery on my SX66. Now atleast I can relax and jsut use the device. The 6700 from verizon should run these apps faster because it has a normal but higher speed procesor. It is 400 mhz but not dual core. Where as the Wizard is 200 (195) mhz Dual Core. I think that if apps were writen to utilize this they would run much better, as fast as the 400mhz.
Later; Lew
Do you have Skype installed?
My xda mini S became extremely slow a month ago or so. It was pretty much unusable. Once I uninstalled Skype there was a massive speed increase.
street_hawk said:
Do you have Skype installed?
My xda mini S became extremely slow a month ago or so. It was pretty much unusable. Once I uninstalled Skype there was a massive speed increase.
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That doesn't make sense, unless you were constantly running skype. Just having skype installed doesn't slow down the device. I have it installed, and there are no resources being used if I don't launch it.
Optical,
Have you applied the various reg hacks (WM5 Cache, and Glyphecache) yet? They do make a difference.
Skype has a minimum processor speed requirement, quite clearly stated on their website, which the XDA Mini unfortunately does not meet. Again, unfortunately that is the only version you can use for it since earlier Skype builds will not run at all under WM5. One trick is to run Skype from the MiniSD card which has the advantage of freeing up precious RAM, in fact I would recommend you only install any new applications onto the MiniSD card.
Skype
In my case I found a noticeable improvement once I uninstalled Skype. It wasn't running constantly. I regularly checked the Task Manager closing all unnecessary apps as it was so slow.
Might just be me though!
optical said:
Hey all,
I'm new to WM5 (or WM for that matters) and picked up my MDA from Tmobile a few days ago. I noticed windows becomes very sluggish at times (takes a long time for a key response). It's so slow sometimes it looks like it has hung in between program changes
I'm just running the basic programs that came with the phone and not using SD card at all.
Is this because I'm running low on Program memory? I noticed my program is at around 5 MB when this happens.
Should this even be happening w/ the basic apps? It seems to help when I start stop some of the running programs.
I hope I don't have OC the damn thing to run basic apps.
ROM version: 1.8.10.2 WWE (any better out there?)
ROM date: 12/10/05
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When you close programs in Windows Mobile they are not realy stopped!!
Thats why your memory is around 5 mb after a while.
If you want to stop programs at once, you need some special programs like SPB Pocket Plus.
May be this will help your memory loss and slow ppc.
Marvie said:
When you close programs in Windows Mobile they are not realy stopped!!
Thats why your memory is around 5 mb after a while.
If you want to stop programs at once, you need some special programs like SPB Pocket Plus.
May be this will help your memory loss and slow ppc.
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Very true.
Another good one that I like using is Battery Pack Pro. The nice little "X" is in the corner of the screen and it lets you "click" the program close like windows normally would. It also lets you click on the "X" to see any running apps and force close them.
I'm just waiting for my miniSD card before I go with the tweaks. I'm just a little surprised at what I have to do to just run the apps the OS came with. I guess I had a higher expectation for this device as for performance. You would think 64MB on a phone device is enough!
I noticed one of the tweaks is references the GPS. What is that about? Is that referring to GPS as in GPS receiver? =)
I got a BT receiver and planning to use it but I would love to be surprised about the GPS feature.
JNGold said:
street_hawk said:
Do you have Skype installed?
My xda mini S became extremely slow a month ago or so. It was pretty much unusable. Once I uninstalled Skype there was a massive speed increase.
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That doesn't make sense, unless you were constantly running skype. Just having skype installed doesn't slow down the device. I have it installed, and there are no resources being used if I don't launch it.
Optical,
Have you applied the various reg hacks (WM5 Cache, and Glyphecache) yet? They do make a difference.
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I will definitely give it a try. Please keep the great tips coming!
FalconGrey said:
Marvie said:
When you close programs in Windows Mobile they are not realy stopped!!
Thats why your memory is around 5 mb after a while.
If you want to stop programs at once, you need some special programs like SPB Pocket Plus.
May be this will help your memory loss and slow ppc.
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Very true.
Another good one that I like using is Battery Pack Pro. The nice little "X" is in the corner of the screen and it lets you "click" the program close like windows normally would. It also lets you click on the "X" to see any running apps and force close them.
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Hello everyone.
This is my first post. Actually, I added this as a reply on a thread but it's so long and covers so many areas I thought I'd create a new thread from it, if that is ok.
Here are some answers to people's questions on various threads about the 614c ROM images, and my comments particularly on the various ROMs out there.
Here's a link to the latest WM6.1 ROM from a Russian gentleman yevg001 who creates them.
Here's a link to the latest hp official WM6.0 ROM.
1) Yes, you can flash to yevg001 israpda WM6.1 ROMs and then back to the hp WM6.0 ROM from the hp website as often as you like. Flashing from an SD card (not SDHC) has worked reliably several times on my three 614c phones, and flashing using the hp software also works fine (it's much slower because it loads the ROM down a USB cable).
2) The big difference between the yevg001 ROM and the hp ROM is that the hp ROM contains an update to the device firmware, to v0.88 (the latest version). This is of interest if you still have firmware v0.77 (the previous and originally released version). The yevg001 ROMs do not affect your firmware version.
3) If you apply the hp ROM, you cannot get back to v0.77 firmware - I don't think the hp installer will downgrade you, even if you have an old hp ROM image.
4) Why might you want to downgrade to v0.77 device firmware? Because v0.88, while better in numerous ways, has one critical defect: it does not properly support call waiting. When a second call is received (and you hear the beeps in your ear), the active call is affected in that the person you are talking to cannot hear you - and usually hangs up because he/she things you have lost the line. It's very annoying. Other than this, the firmware is better and more stable, due to various minor bug fixes. Fewer missed calls, fewer crashes.
5) Ok, putting aside device firmware and thinking of software... the latest yevg001 ROM is based on hp software image 1.01.04, the latest image at time of writing. yevg001 has also added a few little software applets into the image, but you don't need to use any of these. Obviously, you cannot uninstall them as they are in the ROM, but they also therefore don't take up any usable space.
6) The touchFLO interface is optional. You can easily deactivate it. It looks quite pretty but I have to say I don't like it, so I've deactivated it just by unchecking it in Today settings.
7) The yevg001 WM 6.1 build (I'm using his v1.6) is very good. I have only noticed one major problem with it. The phone is faster than ever before (and I've tried a lot of ROMs). It is quite stable - a couple of crashes but not noticeably more than the hp ROM. The WM6.1 ROM is entirely in English (with the exception that Yevgeny has added in Russian T9 support - not much use without Russian character set). English T9 works as normal.
8) I have also noticed improved battery life. With the latest hp 1.01.04 WM6.0 ROM, I usually get through four fully charged batteries in 24 hours. With the yevg001 v1.6 WM 6.1 ROM, I only get through three. Yes, I'm quite a heavy user but this is a good improvement.
9) The major problem I mentioned in point 7, which won't affect everyone, is that yevg001's ROM does not allow concurrent voice and data usage on a 3G or HSDPA network. How bad is that? Not all 3G phones support this and it is one of the best features of the 614c... My guess is that yevg001 does not even realise this because there is no (or nearly no) 3G in Russia - at least there wasn't last time I was in Moscow in April/May. Basically, if you have any data connection active at the time you place or receive a call, the phone just abruptly drops the data connection. It re-establishes it fine after your call, but no concurrent usage. **If any Russian forum user is reading this, please could you post to yevg001 and ask him if he can address this?**
10) Other experiences based on my regular usage:
a) Bluetooth works fine, neither better nor worse than the standard HP build. I use several BT headsets for calls and also listen to music using A2DP. The A2DP connection seems more stable under WM6.1. In general on the 614c the BT sound level is too low, it does seems a bit lower still with the yevg001 ROM but it was a problem already.
b) Wi-fi works fine, no problems at all with b or g networks.
c) The PIE browser seems to have been slightly improved under WM6.1.
d) The threaded SMS is fantastic! And better than the iphone too because it allows you to delete and to forward individual messages within the thread. The email client seems to be unchanged.
e) I use tomtom navigator 6.3 (western europe) a lot. It works well.
f) Getting a GPS fix can take more than five minutes from cold. If you've used it before on the same day, it's usually less than a minute. I have always found that the 614c is slower to get a fix than the old 6915 which I believe many 614c users upgraded from.
g) Google Maps also works really well, with GPS, and using HSDPA the 614c is fast enough to keep up with your position on a zoomed-in satellite photo while travelling in a car at 30mph (no I wasn't driving!).
h) The media player is ok, I do wish it would read the album artwork out of the mp3 metadata, but that's a slightly off topic observation.
i) The camera is shockingly slow. I use it rarely. The autofocus works quite well.
j) I've had no problems with lots of 8GB SDHC cards.
k) Battery life battery life battery life. The Achilles heel of the 614c. See point 8 above.
m) Activesync seems to work more quickly and more reliably under the WM6.1 ROM than previously.
n) Voice Commander is rubbish. Why do they bother? It takes ages to start up, only works from American accents, is generally slow and intrusive (over other open windows) and is unreliable. MS Voice Command was much better.
Hope all this is interesting! Let me know what you think and if you've got any questions I'll do my best to answer them.
Cheers,
hipppo
p.s. Update as of 22 December:
In case you are looking to download the very latest ROM from the Russian expert yevg001, here it is:
http://rapidshare.com/files/174859341/614c_WM6.1_20270_v1.4_rev1.1.rar.html
The password is "israpda.com" (without the quotes).
Yevgeny only created this ROM in the last couple of days and I believe it is based on the latest hp build - he says it is his newest and most stable WM6.1 ROM yet.
I haven't tried it yet.
Merry Christmas
hipppo
Cool, I use also the yevg001's ROM , It work very well. Does someone try his extended battery ? His look unchange? or it look like the Axim X30 with his extended battery?
My experience.
I do agree with the comments. I might add another issue - some of the programs based on netCF don't work - they report errors. I installed netCF3.5 but the problem still persists.
Hi,
I just wanted to thank you for this very detailed post.
It answered a lot of my questions!
Have HP categorically said they won't be releasing an official 6.1 ROM?
Thanks,
Adam
In my Ipaq 614C the word-completion features does not with on-screen keyboard. It's normally cauby by XT9? XT9 work well with the physical keyboard.
vgbvn said:
Cool, I use also the yevg001's ROM , It work very well. Does someone try his extended battery ? His look unchange? or it look like the Axim X30 with his extended battery?
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i ve bought the extended battery from HP and i have to say that it reallly enhance the use of the 614c ! i haven't really measured but i would say it last 2-3 times later than with the actual battery, using this 6.1 rom. the only drawback is that the phone is now bigger...
In my opinion, it's better to buy another standart battery and charger for it. I used to own a samsung i600 with two batteries - normal and extended and i had a separate charger for the battery. The only problem was, that i had to change the battery cover everytime i change the battery, which is not ery convenient. I think they sell a charger for about 5-6$ so you just charge the other battery and put it in your pocket. If you want to, you can buy two batteries. The ipaq is bulky enough with the normal battery.
HP said that "there aren't any devices made by HP with WM6.1 at the moment so they will have to make tests if the ipaq 610 is compatable with wm 6.1 and then think of releasing update". IMHO this means something like "We are not going to release wm 6.1 update if you want an official wm 6.1 phone go buy something else" . Of course it's compatable with wm 6.1 and it's working much better with it, but they have to pay $$$ to Microsoft so they can use wm 6.1 and they probably won't do that. The truth is, that the ipaq is cheaper then most of the other devices with similar hardware. I don't think that of they release an udate it will be better than the russian rom. The battery drains because you have a very, very fast CPU. I tested it with XcpuScalar and it plays 320x240 MP4 video with decent quality when clocked at 104MHZ. Now you can imagine the excessive power of the CPU, which is utilized at maximum only when playing QUAKE 2 or some playstation emulator, or when using SKYPE.
thanks for the infos but i can't register there to download a rom.what can we do for this?i don't speak russian
Latest Russian ROM
Hello everyone,
In case you are looking to download the very latest ROM from the Russian expert yevg001, here it is:
http://rapidshare.com/files/174859341/614c_WM6.1_20270_v1.4_rev1.1.rar.html
Yevgeny only created this ROM in the last couple of days and I believe it is based on the latest hp build - he says it is his newest and most stable WM6.1 ROM yet.
I haven't tried it yet.
axlastro said:
In my opinion, it's better to buy another standart battery and charger for it. I used to own a samsung i600 with two batteries - normal and extended and i had a separate charger for the battery. The only problem was, that i had to change the battery cover everytime i change the battery, which is not ery convenient. I think they sell a charger for about 5-6$ so you just charge the other battery and put it in your pocket. If you want to, you can buy two batteries. The ipaq is bulky enough with the normal battery.
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i think that i' ll buy this cradle from Brando:
http://shop.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=02686
it 'll enables me to charge the high capacity battery and the normal battery...
I installed the last ROM update from this thread..
until now, i still haven't found any bugs.. does anyone have found a bugs in this ROM?
I am still using the previous ROM, not the latest one that my link above goes to.
In the previous ROM, the most frustrating bug is the inability to do voice and data at the same time. Initiating or receiving a call immediately terminates the data connection. This is very frustrating - the best thing about 3G is being able to sync emails and so on while talking on the phone, particularly when using the 614c as a high-speed modem for your laptop.
Sadly, no more of this for me... the benefits of the Russian WM6.1 ROM outweigh this (albeit quite big) disadvantage.
Hi all
I installed the last ROM (20757) update from this thread and i dont see any news progams inside :
has also added a few little software applets into the image, but you don't need to use any of these.
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I found only basics HP and Microsoft programs on this rom.
Thanks
mire93600 said:
Hi all
I installed the last ROM (20757) update from this thread and i dont see any news progams inside :
I found only basics HP and Microsoft programs on this rom.
Thanks
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That's the beauty of your iPAQ,
you can tweak it in any way you like.
mine after I installed new ROM >> very stable (recomended)
miroslav.turek said:
Yevg001 has his iPAQ back from service and prepared new ROM:
OS 5.2.20757 (Build 20757.1.4.0) Ver 1.5
http://rapidshare.com/files/163730994/614c_wm61_20757.rar
Password: israpda.com
ROM was tested only one day.
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tweak with usefull application:
** TouchFLO2D/Manilla2D Skins
with a little bit change assigning voice commander button into <scroll right> function
herg62123 said:
ALL DEVICES (VERSION 19b) WITH YOUTUBE ON INTERNET WIDGET
RAPIDSHARE.........................MEGAUPLOAD​
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>>> it's a zip file, Install application #09 only **09 Manila2D_0.11.all.devices**
then install Manilla 2D Customizer by mpenguin14 to configure it:
mpenguin14 said:
Manilla 2D Customizer (M2DC)
LATEST DOWNLOAD HERE (January 30 v0.28.233)
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then find the skin >> here
WARNING >> not all skins works well.. if you find not working skin, you can always try others.
and many others usefull and stable application:
Opera9.5.2392_WWE, AudioManager_2.0_1819.2129, and others (Install application inside Manila2D_0.11.all.devices** zip file)
Resco file & Registry Explorer 2008
usefull app from lots of http://www.dotfred.net/
(recommended) SH4Ys Pim Backup 2.8.CAB >> Backup tool Messages, Contacts, Logs, Tasks, appointment >> download here
AND MANY OTHERS APPLICATION !!!!!
(credits to all developer)
Move outlook message to storage card
found an article very useful for heavy e-mail user (like me) >> here so you can download large attachment file.
here it is:
Using a registry editor, create or edit the following entries:
HKLM\\System\Inbox\Settings\PropertyPath with value \Storage Card\Messaging
HKLM\\System\Inbox\Settings\AttachPath with value \Storage Card\Messaging\Attachments
Then move the entire Messaging folder under \Windows to \Storage Card and do a soft reset.
do carefully, i'm a newbie
One caveat is that you need to disable the "Messaging" Today plugin before your soft reset. If you don't do this, a second "\Storage Card" folder will be created in your ROM and your real Storage Card will be renamed "\Storage Card2", which isn't very useful is it?
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to edit registry >> use PHM Registry Editor to your Pocket PC to edit the registry...
to disable the Messaging Plugin, click on Start, Settings, Today, Items and untick the Messaging option...
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anw, I'm using resco explorer to edit registry
hipppo said:
I am still using the previous ROM, not the latest one that my link above goes to.
In the previous ROM, the most frustrating bug is the inability to do voice and data at the same time. Initiating or receiving a call immediately terminates the data connection. This is very frustrating - the best thing about 3G is being able to sync emails and so on while talking on the phone, particularly when using the 614c as a high-speed modem for your laptop.
Sadly, no more of this for me... the benefits of the Russian WM6.1 ROM outweigh this (albeit quite big) disadvantage.
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Hi Hipppo,
do you have any news about a newer ROM that does not have this problem ?
after using it a while did you find any other problem related to theses cooked rom ?
are thoses new ROMs comming with NetCF3.5 or older ?
Hello Albertorrent,
I have stopped using the yevg001 ROM mentioned in my first posting and I am now using his latest ROM which I think is called Build 20270.1.3.1 v1.4 rev1.2.
I have found this ROM to be stable, no problems. I recommend it.
It allows concurrent voice and data usage.
I am afraid my limited technical knowledge does not allow me to understand your question about NetCF3.5.
hipppo
Thanks,
I ordered my phone monday so I Might have it at the end of the week.
I'll try this new rom.
net CF is usefull to run some applications that has been developped whith it.
I just know that some application cannot install and run if there is not the latest CF (3.5) instaled
for exemple this one :
http://www.retrobits.net/ppc/ppc.shtml
you can find it here :
http://www.pocketpcfreeware.com/fr/index.php?soft=1187
thanks
just google it
albertorrent - i have the netcf3.5 as a separate Cab and i install in on the SD card. I haven't noticed any problem using it that way. I think it was somewhere on the forum but you can always google it. If you can't find it i can e-mail it to you. Right now i don't have it installed and I don't miss it much but some programs require it. At the moment I'm using the latest official 6.0 rom and i find the machine quite stable and fast with it. I had the 1.6 version of the russian 6.1 rom but for now i'm with 6.0
Hello. I need a wm 6.1 or 6.5 to put on my trinity. (p3600) I want to install igo8 and mio v3.3 on it. Can you tell me witch wm i can use? I need space and at least 30mb free ram for installing igo8, mio and any other software. I tried all kins of rom but igo 8.3.2 is not installnig anymore. please help.
WM 6.1, I dont belive that the Trinity has enough RAM to run WM6.5
I use this ROM on my trinity without any issues
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=494727
i'm currently using wm6.5 (i believe TRIN_WM6.5__3_00_707_51__B21232) and it seems pretty stable so far. The only real issue i've had is with the status icon in the top right of screen that shows programs running and mem usage, it's disappeared and the only way i got it back was doing a hard reset, but then it went again. Apart from that all good so far.
I'm using the rom as supplied and have installed no extras apart from TomTom7, which works fine.
I do get a bit of slow down occasionally but it doesn't seem any worse than 6.1 and killing off apps using task manager generally sorts it out.
Hope this helps
Smiffy
I used wm6.5 kitchen in my P3600 , It's work well , finger friendly and beauty menu , but soma time it's hang and some program such garmin not run it and need long time for started. I turn to wm5 orginal , but want to test wm6.1 !
Can U help me to chose light version of Rom wm6.5 or wm6.1 ?
Check my siganture for a decent Ultralite 6.1 ROM. From a fresh install you have the following:
WWE_21014_UltraLite
Storage 74.43Mb
RAM 51.07Mb
Free Storage 71.88Mb
Free RAM 30.95Mb
deedee said:
Check my siganture for a decent Ultralite 6.1 ROM. From a fresh install you have the following:
WWE_21014_UltraLite
Storage 74.43Mb
RAM 51.07Mb
Free Storage 71.88Mb
Free RAM 30.95Mb
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Hi deedee,
Thank you, that was good advice, I had to fix a friend's Trinthy P3600, I took your advice and 21014.1.6.0 ROMs first I tried the full version but then switched to the Medium and it was awesome. From a fresh boot it gave me more then 29MB of RAM, Then I loaded a ton off apps like iGO8, SPB mobile Shell with SPB weather and SPB TV, Mobi Pocket Reader, AE Buttons, StopTime, scientific Calculator and RDP (and I thin I am missing a couple of them) but it is working great.
Very Good Stable and Fast ROM, since it was this post of yours that guided me to that ROM so I owe you tons of Gratitude. And I also owe chanv93 lots of thansk for making such wonderful ROM and putting it out there for dumb noobs like me who are not smart enough to cook their own ROMs.
Good Work chanvi93 and many many Thanks
Hi there!
I am new to TG01 but i have a few obseravtions. After flashing some cooked roms i see that WM6.5.5 is slower in certain situations that original 6.5.
Especially I mean start composing new sms message from shorcut "Compose" in WM Titanium. In 6.5 it is very quick, but 6.5.5 it takes some time to open "new sms" window. Also I think that scrolling start menu is a little more laggy in 6.5.5. Has somoene noticed these facts?
Besides I have small question. Is 6.5.5 capable of rearranging icons in start menu using drag&drop? Unfortunately I have not succeded to do it.
To move items in the start menu, touch an item and hold it till it "lifts" then drag and drop.
Never noticed much speed difference between 6.5 and 6.5.5, but then i wasn't looking that hard.
leeston2379 said:
To move items in the start menu, touch an item and hold it till it "lifts" then drag and drop.
Never noticed much speed difference between 6.5 and 6.5.5, but then i wasn't looking that hard.
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I second that.
However, after your post, I have tested the speeds on both systems. I think it majorly depends on what rom you are using. Stonrom, AragOn's rom and ffBoy's rom - are fine. They don't give any lags. So is Novembre and Nokser's roms. I am not sure if 6.5.5 (non-cooked rom) is better. But I am so far impressed with cooked 6.5.5s for TG01. Especially the once that have Sense cooked in as well.
Cheers!
D
Yesterday i noticed that after 2 days, my memory went down to 33 MB, with no application running:/ I am using clearRam app, but it does no thelp with memory leak. I think I will install 6.5 instead...
i think a lot of it is perception... when the phone was box fresh new i didn't really check on RAM figures & my perception of its performance...
.....but once i started downloading ROMs it suddenly becomes important to me..
i have a 6.5.5 ROM (doesn't matter who's) & i've seen some terrible RAM values within system settings
that said the system has always soildered on merrily away as if nothing was amiss
i also have a hd2 that (as u prob know) has 448 of installed RAM (vs 214 on the Tosh?)
i've never used all that HD2 RAM up in normal use... but i've seen it run loads slower than the TG01 whist doing comparitive tasks...
This is a good idea for a thread
adzman808 said:
i think a lot of it is perception... when the phone was box fresh new i didn't really check on RAM figures & my perception of its performance...
.....but once i started downloading ROMs it suddenly becomes important to me..
i have a 6.5.5 ROM (doesn't matter who's) & i've seen some terrible RAM values within system settings
that said the system has always soildered on merrily away as if nothing was amiss
i also have a hd2 that (as u prob know) has 448 of installed RAM (vs 214 on the Tosh?)
i've never used all that HD2 RAM up in normal use... but i've seen it run loads slower than the TG01 whist doing comparitive tasks...
This is a good idea for a thread
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I second that! TG01 gave me way faster speeds on custom/cooked roms than HD2.
But I am sure that 6.5 was faster!!! It was like a lighting! I must check cooked 6.5. Maybe it is 6.5.5 core that is slower? Maybe this is due to diffirent pagepool size?
Mic43 said:
But I am sure that 6.5 was faster!!! It was like a lighting! I must check cooked 6.5. Maybe it is 6.5.5 core that is slower? Maybe this is due to diffirent pagepool size?
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Why don't you try a benchmark to prove your feeling? SK tools for instance. That would be very useful for all us
You are right, i will do it. But does it have test suitiable for this?
Hi there
I have done some benchmarks using SPB Benchmark and SK Tools. I will post it later but my conclusion is that 6.5 is faster in benchmarks. Also I googled a lot for results in this benchmarks for TG01 and HD2) and it seems like HD2 was much faster in benchmarks - especially in graphics using GDI.
May someone do some benchmarks too? Then we could compare our results.
I have recently installed spb + mobile sense and I see that it is quite laggy - especially in sliding homescreen (only from left/right to right/left !) and in calendar. Without mobile sense spb is working fast enough. Can somone confirm it? What i see is spb is using OpenGL only in carousel view - and in other cases using GDI which can be laggy for TG01. But how TG01 which is based on same proc as Hd2 can have different results? Not-opengl graphics processing is done by processor i think.
None have sktools or spb benchmark results?
Hi can you tell me which is the fastest ROM for our HDs .Doesn't matter 6.1 or 6.5. I just want fast ROM with weather on the homescreen. Of course I prefer 6.5 with sense but I don't know does it fast as 6.1. If there is WinMo 6.1 with interface Sense 2.5 and it's fast like touch flo for example will be great.
Thank you!
this question has been asked and answered dozens of times.
the fastest rom is the stock rom wm6.1 with touchflo 3d 1.3
this touchflo version only has a weather tab, no weather on home screen. also not all sense 2.1 versions have home screen weather.
if there were such a thing as a perfect blackstone rom, no other chef could be bothered building own versions, the blackstone classically is a device on the line. it has a high display resolution, yet not the powerful processor, most new devices with that resolution have.
so, you have to pick, either speed OR a lot of features.
you can try cloudy 0.7 for instance. while on the one hand, it has not been updated in almost a year (also, as in most roms, the twitter tab does not work anymore). but it combines wm6.1 with sense 2.5 and it is relatively fast.
but if you are actually all about the speed of the rom, you might want to try a stock rom, and simply move the weather tab to the 2nd position, right next to the home screen. it isnt't too much work to swipe over the display once to check the weather. just think of iphone users, who with one swipe only just unlocked their phone and are hardly ready to access all kinds of information without launching 267 apps
Fast rom and ram
Chef_Tony,
First of all sorry for going off topic i just have a few questions
1. Does more free Ram makes a rom faster. i mean if a rom have 100 MB free ram on start is faster then a ROM having 60 mb free ram.
2. I dont use manila, sense, titanium or any today screen, just resco today items, i use to have xperia x1 b4 my hd n there was this rom by laurenti, which have 160mb free ram.( x1 have 32 less ram then HD) and on my hd its only 100 mb(blackstonehedge v6.5) with sense, manila turn off, only resco today items, is there any ultra light rom like laurentis for hd(6.5 or 6.5.x bottom start button, X button closes app.)
3. if is there isnt any rom( i have searched, but might have missed) , can you please cook such a rom.
PS.
was using - Build 23134 - Laurenti v2 (new AKU 5309). from this thread on my x1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=676383
1. not necessarily. less ram usage extends your battery life and has more potential for running apps.
it does affect the speed, when the operating system, for the sake of the example, let's say wm6.5.5 with CHT 2.0, hogs all the ram and cpu power, trying to run a 3d game or watch hi-def video might get annoyingly slow.
but the general speed of the GUI cannot be read from ram or cpu usage alone. when picking a rom you should have a look, where certain packages come from. when a rom mostly consists of leo packages, you will see that it is quite slow, because the leo with 1ghz has much better resources. generally, packs from devices closer to the blackstone, like the rhodium, run slightly faster.
2. so much for the theory. if you don't use any of the built-in home screen extensions, you can pick practically any rom around here. either you go with wm6.1 for more speed, or you pick something newer for more finger-friendliness. in contrast to most other users, you don't need to choose your rom for the manila version. just have a look at the integrated apps, because that can really save you time, setting up the device.
3. there are several ultra-light roms:
- one would be a stock rom, it comes with almost no integrated apps and you'd only need to disable touchflo and you're good to go.
- there is also raving rom wm6.1, which comes without manila or sense, just a custom home screen and a very little ram footprint.
- in the energy roms thread, at the very bottom, you'll find a titanium rom, which is meant for users of own GUI solutions, like spb mobile shell or you resco home. but i wouldn't exactly call it ultra-light, because it comes with a lot of integrated apps.
p.s. despite my user name and avatar, i am not a rom chef, or any chef for that matter, it is just a parody of one of the most annoying persons in late night infomercials
so unfortunately i can't cook you a custom rom.
Thank you very much for a quick reply,
look like i black stonehendge is best option for me know, really appreciated your detailed answers.
thanks again
Nicely answered Chef_Tony
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