I've got my HTC magic last week and order a stylus pen to use with it. The problem is that the phone only respond to finger tap, and I must be holding it. If it is, for example, on the car support and I tap it with my finger it does not respond to touch. Does anyone else have this problem?
Thank you!
The HTC Magic has a captive touch screen, these types of touchscreens only work to the touch of the finger and hence will not work with a stylus.
I also have this problem, not that with the stylus ( I know it can´t be used with stylus). When laying the phone on a tabele an using with only my fingers the respons is very bad. When holding the phone in my hand it´s perfect.
Anyone knows why???
Instead of tapping the screen try a light press, it does not respond to a tap or quick jab with the finger. Go Here and you can read how the Capacitive Touchscreen works.
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Best thing that i've found to do, is make a circuit with the phone:
When its flat or in car holder if you make your thumb touch the bottom of the phone (near the roller ball) then use your finger to do the action required this seems to work!
Don't know why, but it does!
If anyone noticed, if you hold your Magic in one hand and use the other hand to point etc, the sensitivity sort of goes down.
Using the fingers (or rather thumb) of the same hand in which you hold your Magic would produce an insanely much better result!
atan.ismail said:
If anyone noticed, if you hold your Magic in one hand and use the other hand to point etc, the sensitivity sort of goes down.
Using the fingers (or rather thumb) of the same hand in which you hold your Magic would produce an insanely much better result!
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That's due to the orientation of your fingers. Again, it's due to the capacitive screen. Using your thumb on the same hand that's holding the phone, you have more surface area touching on the screen where as if you "point" with the finger (I'm presuming your index) with the empty hand, the surface area is less. You can do a simple test. Press the screen like you were pointing at it then do the same but this time, press it like you were giving your finger print but not as wide.
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Is it just me or does the screen alignment seem to be off a bit and you have to put a lot more pressure than you have to with the Wing ...............
My screen alignment is fine but what I notice is that in order to get a better response from the screen is to tap it with the middle of your finger instead of the tip. I no longer have to press hard as long as I do it with my finger print, middle part, of my finger.
Jamaican said:
Is it just me or does the screen alignment seem to be off a bit and you have to put a lot more pressure than you have to with the Wing ...............
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Are you talking about opening up the keyboard (moving the screen?) Cause, yes, my wing was looser, but it wobbled from time to time.
If you mean touching the screen, the wing was definitely a harder press.
I noticed the alignment is off once in awhile. I press a link on a page and if its a list of links, a lot of times it will press the one above where i am hitting.
As for pressing harder then the Wing, when i try that it will scroll the screen instead of pressing what i wanted. But it depends on what Wing we are talking about too. My first Wing that i bought last year was more sensitive then the exchange Wing i got last month. So it could depend on the device that you have.
Because it's a capacitive screen, pressure shouldn't matter to it, just touching your finger should be enough. I think it's where it averages the center of your finger out to be. Some apps like Street View have a thing where if you touch and hold, you can drag a target around to help be more accurate, I think you can touch and hold on a link to see if it's the right one before you release and click it.
Yep it is off....but that's how it has 2 be cuz we have no stylus....some ppl have boney fingers...some ppl have huge mcdonald n burger king kinda fingers...lol. see this way u can press a spot n it'll get the link, or press more accurately without a stylus....a stylus is easier, but they wanted this 2 b on iphone level....so they stayed away from the stylus....wat I do is click my finger above where I want to press...like just over it...not directly on it...like the list thing mentioned above, I too used 2 click on the wrong thing...or use the trackball 2 highlight it, n click wit trackball....or zoom into the page and then click...I have multi touch so its easy...
Anyone else notice that the edges of the screen on the cmda diamond, cdma pro, and the HD seem to be MUCH less responsive than the screens of previous devices?
I "miss" the exit and start menu buttons pretty often and its pretty annoying lol.
Also the notification/title bar area plus other buttons along the bottom and side.
The rest of the screen is more responsive certainly than say the vogue, mogul, diamond or tp. But its the edges of this and the last 2 mentioned devices that get me..
Well I also feel it's less responsive, but not so much actually. Besides this is caused by the technology of the touch screen.
pozytywny said:
Well I also feel it's less responsive, but not so much actually. Besides this is caused by the technology of the touch screen.
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You mean the edges or the whole thing? The main part I feel is more responsive...
Edge responisiveness depends highly on screen calibration. Try to recalibrate screen more precisely, I think situation should improve ...
kosta0955 said:
Edge responisiveness depends highly on screen calibration. Try to recalibrate screen more precisely, I think situation should improve ...
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Hey thanks a lot. Thought the same thing myself.
Re-calibrated as accurately as I possibly could.
Still no go. I would really like someone else to try this. Take out your stylus even and press in the very corner of the X-button...you get nothing.
Sort of fix: I found that if you hold your press just a little longer it registers (much better) though I'm not quite convinced that it's still normal nor complete.
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Still no go. I would really like someone else to try this. Take out your stylus even and press in the very corner of the X-button...you get nothing.
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I don't see any problem in pressing X-button on my Touch HD. I had similar problem like yours using right vertical scrollbar and recalibration helped, so I though it might help you too, but unfortunately it seem this ain't the same problem
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I don't see any problem in pressing X-button on my Touch HD. I had similar problem like yours using right vertical scrollbar and recalibration helped, so I though it might help you too, but unfortunately it seem this ain't the same problem
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Hmm...I wonder if I should try to get it replaced under warranty.
I would want to, but I have noticed the same problem in a sprint diamond in the store, a sprint touch pro in a store, and a friends sprint touch pro.
What do you (guys) think? Replacement? It could get really annoying...not being able to close out of things. Right now since its new and awesome and stuff I'm kind of trying to ignore it or whatever but...hmm idk.
The fact that the screen is less responsive near the edges is caused by an inherent technical limitation of resistive screens. The screen has no real bezel, and thus, the screen is attached to the body frame right where it ends: at the absolute edges of the screen Where it is attached, it cannot move. A little further away from the edge it can move (eg be pressed down) but this requires more force since you need to bend the screen much closer to the fixed edges than when you would press the center of the screen, which bends the easiest.
Don't know if this makes sense, but it's like a window... Hitting it in the centre will break it much easier than when hitting it close to the edges, since the glass bends much further/easier at the center, so the same force will have more effect.
Anyway, resistive screens have this problems, capacitive screens do not, obviously, since they do not rely on pressure.
If hitting the OK/Close button is a problem for you, just use the hardware button below the screen, the one with the arrow on it. It does exactly the same thing I believe. With 'I believe' I mean I assigned OK/close to that button using AEButtonPlus, which should be the default behavior for pressing it once. I find this to be much more convenient than trying to hit that tiny X/OK button.
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The fact that the screen is less responsive near the edges is caused by an inherent technical limitation of resistive screens. The screen has no real bezel, and thus, the screen is attached to the body frame right where it ends: at the absolute edges of the screen Where it is attached, it cannot move. A little further away from the edge it can move (eg be pressed down) but this requires more force since you need to bend the screen much closer to the fixed edges than when you would press the center of the screen, which bends the easiest.
Don't know if this makes sense, but it's like a window... Hitting it in the centre will break it much easier than when hitting it close to the edges, since the glass bends much further/easier at the center, so the same force will have more effect.
Anyway, resistive screens have this problems, capacitive screens do not, obviously, since they do not rely on pressure.
If hitting the OK/Close button is a problem for you, just use the hardware button below the screen, the one with the arrow on it. It does exactly the same thing I believe. With 'I believe' I mean I assigned OK/close to that button using AEButtonPlus, which should be the default behavior for pressing it once. I find this to be much more convenient than trying to hit that tiny X/OK button.
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Hey thanks for your informative opinion.
This theory seems to fit, except it doesn't quite explain nor fit with these 2 things:
1. I can apply a pretty decent amount of pressure in the corner with no results whatsoever. But I can get full results if I apply less pressure for about .5-1 second rather than just tapping.
2. I have never seen any evidence of this on any other resistive touch devices (vogue, titan).
Why in the world do these resistive touch screens have to suck so bad anyway? The HD is the best I've seen lately, but does HTC just suck at it, or is it everyone (haven't owned a non-htc ts device for a yr or so, and that was a treo where I didn't really notice sensitivity).
My dad has a 3+ yr old Dell Axim X5 and that screen is AMAZINGLY sensitive. Responds to stylus and is too old to be capacitive. But it is literally 100% as responsive / sensitive as the screen of the iPhone. When I used it I couldn't believe it. You had to be VERY delicate and careful and trying hard to touch that screen and not have it know.
Just got my Streak the other day and noticed that it's quite difficult for me to get the haptic response from the three side side buttons (return, menu, home), particularly the return menu. I usually can't get a response from a finger tip unless I touch it repeatedly, and I usually need to press down harder than I think I should and with at least a half inch diameter of my finger. Is that normal?
Sounds odd never had that problem I can just tap mine quickly and it picks it up. It could be possibly where your pressing maybe.
Thanks for the reply. Is yours as sensitive as touching the touchscreen? Mine definitely isn't.
AndrewKl said:
Just got my Streak the other day and noticed that it's quite difficult for me to get the haptic response from the three side side buttons (return, menu, home), particularly the return menu. I usually can't get a response from a finger tip unless I touch it repeatedly, and I usually need to press down harder than I think I should and with at least a half inch diameter of my finger. Is that normal?
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This seems to depend on your fingers! (too dry or wet skin?)
Try to let somebody else do the same thing...
You will be surprised.
I did first think maybe your fingers were not conductive enough but as you say the screen is working ok then I reckon your buttons are not working as they should. Contact Dell or your provider?
For reference my screen and side buttons seem to be equally sensitive, in fact I could do with the side buttons being a little less sensitive..
hey guys,
i want to collect all (hardweare) issues u have with your desire z. i bought mine on monday, got it on wednesday.
since i have the device, i see these issues:
Touchscreen does not respond while the device is plugged in to the power adapter and is fully loaded (when its still loading the touchscreen works perfectly)
nothing happens when i press the trackpad button (is it a button? when i press on it i can feel the pressure point like a standard button)
display does not stay in position when you hold the device tilted
what issues do you have? can you confirm the issues i have?
espacially the touchscreen issue is strange and annoying
the-virus said:
Touchscreen does not respond while the device is plugged in to the power adapter and is fully loaded (when its still loading the touchscreen works perfectly)
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My touchscreen works fine so far and doesn't have this problem. Maybe you use a non-standard charger? I once experienced the same issue on my old Motorola Milestone with a Blackberry charger (the touchscreen became erratic), changed it to my original charger and didn't receive any problem since.
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nothing happens when i press the trackpad button (is it a button? when i press on it i can feel the pressure point like a standard button)
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Yes it is a button. If you use it on a list pressing the trackpad is equivalent to a tap. If you mean to use it to wake the screen then it will not work as the standard Sense UI doesn't support this.
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display does not stay in position when you hold the device tilted
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I grew accustomed to hold the upper part of the phone (the display) with both of my index finger when using it at bed. I once perceived the hinge mechanism as a "weakness" for this phone, but I learned to get pass this.
The trackpad button basically works as an "Enter" button. It has no function on the homescreen. But you can use it to select an item on a list, such as the apps page, or the links on a web page.
What angle do you mean, when you say the screen moves? In the "normal" angle (right side up, with the phone tilted towards me), mine is very solid. If held upside-down (such as typing while in bed), the keyboard has a tendency to close, as its pretty much meant to do. Just the slightest pressure from my index fingers will hold the screen in place (I find my index fingers to rest on the sides of the screen naturally, and hardly even have to think about it).
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Hey Everyone,
I do this every now and then, wondering if everyone else does.
Let's say I'm using the phone one handed, web browsing or something and I need to reach a button on the opposite bottom corner.
Rather than stretch across the screen, I just rotate the phone 90 degrees for a second. The screen rotates, and the button is now directly under my thumb. I click it, rotate back and move on.
Yes, the Note still sucks sometimes as a one handed phone, but this does help out every now and then.
- Frank
oh thanks nice idea
another way is to curl your finger around the back of the phone...I did try this, and looks really funny if you're watching from afar
I guess I just have big hands. The way I hold the phone, I can touch everything to the right of the blue line.
Ha.. same here. I've got big hands too. One overseas colleague once asked me if that is a S2 I'm holding.
If I'm holding the phone, you can only see 1/4 of it from the back. And only 1 cm separates my thumb to the closest finger when I hold it.
This is particularly useful if you're reading in landscape.
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another trick for zooming during browsing with the stock samsung browser is to simulate 2 fingers. usually you can zoom in and out by putting them on the screen and overturn the phone.
so instead of using to fingers, just put your thumb on the left side of the screen, so that a small part of your palm touches the screen on the right, which simulates an input^^
i hope u understood what i mean
I never hold my phone 1 handed. I'm too afraid of dropping it. But I'll try your advice if I ever need to