Just got my Mugen Power 3000mAh battery with a designated rear cover.
I will be doing more testing of the battery itself in a few days, but I wanted to share my impression on the rear cover.
1. Design
Well, it is what it is. I did not expect fireworks and I do not really care about the design anyway. The satin surface does not match the rest of the case. The silver insert for the camera does not really match anything, but I doubt it will cause any reflexes and negatively affect the pictures.
2. Quality of manufacturing
It is SO BAD I cannot believe any manufacturer would ever release anything of that quality. It looks like the cheapest plastic manually formed and cut with a kitchen knife. The lines are bended, the fit of the rear cover to the rest of the case is not there and the silver insert looks like it is going to detach any time. Disaster.
Conclusion:
Well, I hope the battery itself is of a better quality, but after seeing the cover I have all the worst impressions about Mugen Power products.
If you plan to show off you new phone from time to time, avoid it at all cost.
If you want additional anti-theft protection, get one. It makes the whole phone looks so cheap that no thief would ever think about stealing your phone.
ha. Well I'll be eager to hear how well the battery works - this is the one that I'm acutally considering because I want more juice baby! Luckly I'm kinda like you - more interested in function or form - but what a shame that the battery cover is such a cheap piece of crap.
ya for some reason all windows mobile phones use alot of power i had a nokia 5800 it would last really long compared to all windows mobile phones i have including the fuze
I bought the battery when it first came out and I still have it to this day. After a few days of it being in my pocket (since there isn't a case that fits it) jiggling around with my pocket knife and loose change it got scratched all to hell.
Besides being made fun of by co-workers for its extreme size and having them put 'ACME' labels on it the battery did just what it was supposed to do. Minimize downtime for charging and increase the life of the phone.
The cover is far from pretty and I have seen some people take them off and dye them with the RITZ dyes from WalMart. I've seen some pretty neat work so that may be something you can look in to...
I still find myself using the standard battery for day-to-day use and I have grown away from using the extended battery except on long trips. Overall I would give it a 9/10 because it does exactly what it's supposed to do minus the appearance.
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How Much Do They Run???
I'm A Heavy User... Work Is Boring... Lol...
Your back cover looks vastly different than mine. is yours for the GSM or CDMA? My original back cover fit like crap and the company naked cellphone sent me a new one at no cost, never had a problem since. Sure, it's a bit bigger but I like it. It makes typing on the keyboard easier with the added depth of the device.
apollumi said:
I bought the battery when it first came out and I still have it to this day. After a few days of it being in my pocket (since there isn't a case that fits it) jiggling around with my pocket knife and loose change it got scratched all to hell.
Besides being made fun of by co-workers for its extreme size and having them put 'ACME' labels on it the battery did just what it was supposed to do. Minimize downtime for charging and increase the life of the phone.
The cover is far from pretty and I have seen some people take them off and dye them with the RITZ dyes from WalMart. I've seen some pretty neat work so that may be something you can look in to...
I still find myself using the standard battery for day-to-day use and I have grown away from using the extended battery except on long trips. Overall I would give it a 9/10 because it does exactly what it's supposed to do minus the appearance.
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And yeah, those pics look awful.
I've got the Fosmon® High Capacity 2400mAh, and its about the same physical size as the mugen. I don't mind the size at all, feel compfortable in my hand, I like the Fosmon, becuase its alot cheaper, and the back cover is the exact glossy black as the the rest of the FUZE. Tbattery app only shows 1340mah don't know if this is a limitation to the software, or the battery not reporting correctly.
The fosmon back cover although visual nice, is very flimsy, and scratches very easy, I order the Mugen cover only to see how it looks, but from pictures it seems to have more of a matte rubbery finish, which will clash
Dalamak said:
I've got the Fosmon® High Capacity 2400mAh, and its about the same physical size as the mugen. I don't mind the size at all, feel compfortable in my hand, I like the Fosmon, becuase its alot cheaper, and the back cover is the exact glossy black as the the rest of the FUZE. Tbattery app only shows 1340mah don't know if this is a limitation to the software, or the battery not reporting correctly.
The fosmon back cover although visual nice, is very flimsy, and scratches very easy, I order the Mugen cover only to see how it looks, but from pictures it seems to have more of a matte rubbery finish, which will clash
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Could you possibly provide a link as to where you bought this battery?
I returned Mugen Super Extended Battery 3000mAh and got Fosmon® High Capacity 2400mAh at Amazon.
The quality of the cover is WAY better, both design and manufacturing. The design is similar to the original cover: glossy (matches the rest of the phone) and slightly better shaped (imho). The area around the camera and LED is recessed, which in my opinion is better design then Mugen. The quality is much better, no distorted lines, quite good fitting to the rest of the case. It is one piece (Mugen was two), so not problem with fitting between parts. The only thing that look a bit cheap is a silver painting around the camera and LED that they could skip at all.
Considering Fosmon is 7.5 times cheaper than Mugen, even if I have to sacrifice a bit of the battery itself I can live with that.
u can have fosmon 2400 at
http://www.amazon.com/Fosmon®-Capacity-2400mAh-Rechargeable-Neckstrap/dp/B0028OYO08
For those of you who use extended battery, how's the battery meter? I mean does it shows correct percentage until the last drop?
This is pretty good about to order one for myself
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...590223&q_manufacturer=htc&q_model=prod3010219
I bought a 2500mha extended battery for my fuze and bought the htc oem extended battery back cover, this combination works and looks perfect.
rafyvitto said:
I bought a 2500mha extended battery for my fuze and bought the htc oem extended battery back cover, this combination works and looks perfect.
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Hi rafyvitto, where did you buy the oem batt back cover? I'm thinking to get it myself. Thanks
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Hi rafyvitto, where did you buy the oem batt back cover? I'm thinking to get it myself. Thanks
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I bought it off ebay for 12$ free shipping.
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After going through this with my X1 which I took very good care of, I was sure to be extra careful with the X2.
SE blamed HTC for the design flaw that lead to cracks in the X1, well SE... what do you say about the X2 then???
After picking up my phone yesterday I felt a sharper more jagged feel near my camera button. I did not pay attention to it at first, but I felt it again and took a closer look. This is what I found!
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Here you can see the crack goes through to where the metal tab for the battery cover locks.
So the question remains, was I just unlucky? Anybody else notice cracking there in that spot? Looking at it closely I can tell you it's awfully thin and I can't see it holding up for very long.
The only thing I can say that I do differently from the average X2 owner is swap out my batteries every day. I have a standalone charger and 2 spare batteries since my X1 and I prefer to swap fresh batteries every morning instead of using USB to charge so that I don't prematurely wear out (or break) the USB jack, as was a problem with some X1s. Surely this can't cause abnormal case cracking can it???
****, i jsut looked and i have a crack too.. omg i have taken good care of this phone
mtechfan your not alone with the swapping of the battery's each day i did this with my C902. i dont have a crack by the cam button but i have just noticed that were the stylis slides in the little clip that helped lock it in place is no longer there
Well, we better all check our phones!
If we look at this from a design view... I think that the plastic bit that has the clip, that holds onto the battery cover is too thin.
I can imagine the other one on the top side failing just the same.
the back cover hinges near to that point, wouldnt be surprised if it puts extra stress on that side. i dnt think they designed it in mind with people swapping the battery every day.
had my X2 over 5months and touch wood not a crack or anything on it so far. i dont swap the battery though. my x1 had cracks, keyboard failures, peeling varnish from back cover and all manner of problems by 5months...
i was only inspecting my phone the other day and thinking to myself at how well the X2 has lasted compared to the X1. very pleased with the build quality so far.
i think we will have to recommend to everyone to avoid taking off the back cover more than they have too...
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i think we will have to recommend to everyone to avoid taking off the back cover more than they have too...
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Well, that does not solve the problem. It is a ticking time bomb, who says it wont crack anyways? amdx2 does not mention swapping batteries.
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Well, that does not solve the problem. It is a ticking time bomb, who says it wont crack anyways? amdx2 does not mention swapping batteries.
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The back side area only cracked for that person because of careless ness. When you putting on the battery cover on any phone and you dont take time to see what your doing thats what gonna happen. The X2 battery cover has to metal strips at the side to be placed on the grove of the phone< when you dont place it in the grove properly it will push out the side of the phone and may brake just like what you see in those pictures you see there. So we cant blame SE for our negligence
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The back side area only cracked for that person because of careless ness. When you putting on the battery cover on any phone and you dont take time to see what your doing thats what gonna happen. The X2 battery cover has to metal strips at the side to be placed on the grove of the phone< when you dont place it in the grove properly it will push out the side of the phone and may brake just like what you see in those pictures you see there. So we cant blame SE for our negligence
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Don't be so bloody ignorant, jumping to assumptions like that! Did you even bother to read the text?
That is my phone and I KNOW HOW TO PUT THE DAMN BATTERY COVER ON! I take very good care of every device I have ever owned.
This cracked over time, it has nothing to do with me being careless. Your X2 will crack soon enough, then will you say you were careless?
It's a very thin piece of plastic, take a close look!
Ohh...
I just looked aswell, and found that crack too :S
And it is two crack in an early phase too on the other side of the phone...
BAD designing SONY ERICSSON !!
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I just looked aswell, and found that crack too :S
And it is two crack in an early phase too on the other side of the phone...
BAD designing SONY ERICSSON !!
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OK, so I want to know if you change your batteries often or do you just charge your phone by USB?
Can you also take pictures of the cracks on your phone for comparison to the one I have?
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Well, that does not solve the problem. It is a ticking time bomb, who says it wont crack anyways? amdx2 does not mention swapping batteries.
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how long have you had your X2?
* edit * to keep this thread constructive i think it would be helpful for people replying to this thread to specify how long theyve owned their X2, whether theyve spotted any cracks (and where) and whether they swap the batterys or remove the back cover on a regular basis.
that way it can be established if theres a particular batch of X2s that are flawed and if theres a main cause or if its just random.
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how long have you had your X2?
* edit * to keep this thread constructive i think it would be helpful for people replying to this thread to specify how long theyve owned their X2, whether theyve spotted any cracks (and where) and whether they swap the batterys or remove the back cover on a regular basis.
that way it can be established if theres a particular batch of X2s that are flawed and if theres a main cause or if its just random.
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Good idea, I got mine around the end of March. Not that long really, the phone looks brand new except for the crack. I use screen protectors as well.
thats not long at all then. so about 8 weeks...
ive had a close look at that side, with the cover on it seems strong enough. but with the cover off its not all that strong. looks like the back cover provides quite a lot of the overal phone strength. the cover has metal hinges too so if anything is going to give it will be the plastic on the casing. dont really see why they had to hinge it. theyve had to put two holes there to accomodate the hinge, if they had kept a normal slide in and click back cover they could of made the casing much more solid. i suppose they thought they where being clever by having a cover with a nice locking mechanism.
ive had mine since february and the guy who had it before me must of had it a few weeks. so mine is nearly 5 months old. but ive probably only taken the back cover off about a dozen times at the most.
i also notice that the crack is quite close to the camera button.. i wonder if using the camera a lot contributes to the crack forming. i dont take many pictures so rarely use the button. just done a few tests and if u press hard on the camera button you can see the case flex slightly..
well, i don't change battery but i need take out the battery less 4 or 5 times a week to restart the phone cuz it has crushed.. also i have drop the phone a few times already..
since MR2 my phone hasn't really crashed only need a soft reset from time to time.. which i think its normal since its WINMO afterall
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.... i also notice that the crack is quite close to the camera button.. i wonder if using the camera a lot contributes to the crack forming. i dont take many pictures so rarely use the button. just done a few tests and if u press hard on the camera button you can see the case flex slightly..
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Yes, I have used the camera quite a bit. That might be it!
Same here, just noticed the crack exactly at the same location ((
Hi every body
I had an X1 too, and same problems that everyone had before, case crack without ANY reason while taking care well, keyboard problems after about 8-9 months and color disappearing of back.
As everyone knows SE said that HTC is responsible for problems of x1.
After all waiting for next work of SE, we have a very close arrival of x2 and x10, so I got an x2 because I BELEIVED that SE presented x2 with all experiences and failures of x1, considering that anyone in the world knew that x10 has a excellent build quality, .... and also some known lacks.
NOW I AM DISAPPOINTED AND MAD AT SE> SHAME ON SE because of having customers like us disappointed.
I had ericsson phones since T26, T28, ......, p800,910,990, x1 and now x2
The least they can do is a simple apology
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Same here, just noticed the crack exactly at the same location ((
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Well I hope every X2 owner reads this thread and checks their device!
thanks mtechfan for the post.
I checked my phone...so far no cracks. and I dropped it and took the battery out, god knows how many times already
Ah, gonna keep my fingers crossed
This might not be highly relevant, but I have a very similar crack in my X1 (same place). It started as a tiny triangular chip along that plastic ridge/bumper. I remove the battery a decent amount due to flashing. I have also had about 2 bad drops.
Wonder if that plastic stuff some people cover their whole phones with would help avoid this.
Found this while searching for Iconia cases
The part in the back looks to be high quality and it clipped on to the body just like the Blurex case but also offered 360° Rotating
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Leather-Case...022?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23133d8446
Looks fairly good overall....
...but the description describes it as having "snap shut closure..."
Looks like a band of elastic that wraps around it to keep it shut...
If this had magnets, or real snaps or...something else, it might be a contender...I'm not a fan of elastic...wears out way too fast.
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...but the description describes it as having "snap shut closure..."
Looks like a band of elastic that wraps around it to keep it shut...
If this had magnets, or real snaps or...something else, it might be a contender...I'm not a fan of elastic...wears out way too fast.
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I think what you are seeing as "elastic bands" are the grooves in the case for the edge of the tablet to set in.
I will be very eager to hear from someone who gets this case to find out:
1. How it"snaps shut"?
2. If the flap opens all the way to the back?
3. How well the tablet stays in the case?
I purchased this from Ebay a week ago. When it comes I will post pics and give my thoughts on it. Should arrive next week. Woot!!
Looks nice, but, I refuse to use eBay.. a source for this from a real store would be great
Hymizzle said:
I purchased this from Ebay a week ago. When it comes I will post pics and give my thoughts on it. Should arrive next week. Woot!!
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Looking forward to the pictures.
source for real store
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Looks nice, but, I refuse to use eBay.. a source for this from a real store would be great
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I am purchasing this within next week. Seller gave me the link for his store.
http://www.fintie.com/
IMHO, it looks like one of the best cases out there.
Per the description from the store link above,
5.Elastic band holds iPad 2 closed securely while on the go
maybe it does use elastic bands, but since it also says "iPad 2" I'll be curious to see how it actually works.
Elastic closure...
Having gone to where the original object was posted and downloaded the picture, I saw a swelling on the "upper corner" of the cover that could really only be a couple of things...
Given the lack of anything else that might be considered a candidate for some sort of closure, I figured it to be elastic...
Looking forward to seeing the confirmation in other people's pictures...I still may get it and modify it to my liking. Seems like the closest yet. I do wish it had some other type of closure...
P.S. I love the simplicity of the TPU "snapon" case I have now - seems to offer more corner / edge protection should I mishandle it.
I may buy another TPU case and add / modify it with portions of this case. now THAT would be cool...
I'm thinking that "snap shut" could means like one of those jean button...
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( then dock it through a circle ring ( case snap on to base ) to become desktop with angles and 360 rotation positions )
Top half of the circle above Acer logo is part of tablet case while the bottom half is use as the backstand. ( it is bendable at that part/or separate.... see the joint lines in pic #1 )
the Jeans snap shut button could either be on the top half or the lower half circle... served the same purpose.
Together, they combined to becomes a portfolio case
point #4 at the retail site:
http://www.fintie.com/Tablet PC Accessoriesessories/Acer?product_id=1190
4.Snap-n-Roll Design, Detachable case easily snaps into mount.
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I preferred that it is bendable instead of separate and snap on button on the top half of the ring.
top candidate for me and also because cannot get the Blurex case from Amazon to Canada.
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UnicornKaz said:
Found this while searching for Iconia cases
The part in the back looks to be high quality and it clipped on to the body just like the Blurex case but also offered 360° Rotating
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Leather-Case...022?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23133d8446
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Rotating ? Strange way to describe it.
pov1 said:
Rotating ? Strange way to describe it.
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What's so strange about describing a gadget or item that is capable of "360° Rotation" ???
besides... that's what the ad said !!
maybe some people just run out of things to complain about, so they have to pick on a word ??
I'm looking forward to reading the user reviews of this case.
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I'm looking forward to reading the user reviews of this case.
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Same here, but I have the blurex slim case now and love it, and but this case looks nice
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I received mine today, which I ordered last week from fintie.com. It looks exactly like the pictures on ebay or the fintie.com so I am not going to post any pictures. I also have a blurex slim case (same thing with roocase slim) and quality wise it is not as good as blurex, and it has one less indentation thingies in the case that serve as a stopper for different angels, but it stays fine even if you don put the table directly into those indentations.
Build quality is ok, not great but ok. Unfortunately just like in the pictures it has an elastic strap as a closure instead of a magnetic flap or a hard leather part like in blurex case. I am not sure if it wears out or becomes lose quickly, only the time will tell.
Swivel mechanism works fine, and it is a lot easier to remove the tablet from the case, if you are doing that constantly. The part that your tablet sits in is plastic, the rest is fake leather. It is slightly thinner than the blurex slim case, mainly due to less padding on the flap.
Removing the plastic case from the swivel mechanism and flap is NOT easy at all, and would probably break the notches on the swivel eventually.
Both sides are open like the blurex case, so this is not designed to protect your tablet if you drop it sideways, but more for to protect it from daily wear and tear and carrying in a bag, etc.
All in all I am happy with it and would buy it again, since I really wanted something that swivels for reading comics in portrait mode.
Thanks man, this seems like a nice case then. I will order mine within this week, although it will probably reach my hands one month after I do the purchase (I live in Mexico and our Postal Service is really crappy).
Looking forward to pictures as well, was wanting a case like this since I read mangas and also browse ebay in portiat mode.
I just Googled "iconia a500 rotating case" and found another vendor for this item and bought it for about $19 total. (Same item but $10 cheaper than the two vendors on Amazon; in fact this vendor is through amazonwebstore.) I'll try to remember to post back here after I get to play with it for a couple of days.
I received the case yesterday, so shipment from the vendor I used was quick enough for me. The case looks just as it does in pictures posted in this thread already, so I won't add more.
The thickness of the case material seems like it will protect the tablet very well from abrasion damage. As for impact damage, dropping small/light things onto the case shouldn't damage the tablet inside--or even dropping the tablet itself onto a hard floor unless the tablet lands right on a corner as the sides are exposed. (Even then, the case will protect it a little bit as it does extend over the edges of the Iconia a little.)
When the case is open, access is unobstructed to all buttons and ports except, of course, the docking port. When the case is closed, the elastic band covers the camera and the headphone port. I can't imagine anyone trying to take pictures with the Iconia closed in the case, but blockage of the headphone port could be a problem for people who want to close the case securely with the elastic band and listen to music through wired headphones at the same time.
There are two preset angles in this case. Using the trusty eyeballing method, one is 50 deg and the other is 65 deg. There is enough friction to set the tablet at any angle between there and not much give to set beyond.
The rotation works as advertised and is the reason why I got this particular case. I spent $19 on it and feel it's a good value. If you find a deal on this case for $10-$15, then you shouldn't even hesitate.
$17.99 now at Amazon.com
Same case ... just through a different retailer.
same manufacture... just supplies to different retailers and they in turn set their own price.
http://www.amazon.com/Iconia-Multi-...?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1315109306&sr=1-72
Some other examples... but the above is currently the cheapest being at $17.99.
($19.97)
http://www.amazon.com/PU-Rotating-C...?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1315110415&sr=1-92
and this one won't even be available till Sept/20
($22.87)
http://www.amazon.com/DURAGADGET-De...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1315110603&sr=1-1
So I've owned the tablet for over a week now. I like it. However the plastic backing around the microSD slot has slowly become loose and now holding the device feels like cheap plastic. I don't access the port at all, save the one time i put the sd card in.
Anyone else noticing this build issue?
I'd exchange it if it really bothers you. Mine is snug.
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Mine has it too. It was there when I got it. I bought a book case and now I just ignore the creaking. No big deal.
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Mine has it too. It was there when I got it. I bought a book case and now I just ignore the creaking. No big deal.
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You're probably right. When I bought it, bestbuy had no covers. Now I guess more are getting released. did you get the official one or another? I do like the feature of the samsung one that will wakup the device when opening.
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You're probably right. When I bought it, bestbuy had no covers. Now I guess more are getting released. did you get the official one or another? I do like the feature of the samsung one that will wakup the device when opening.
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I got the official one. While it may not be worth $50 I like it well enough and it protects from the "everyday". I've never dropped a tablet so I'm not worried about drops.
thank you
Billyvnilly said:
So I've owned the tablet for over a week now. I like it. However the plastic backing around the microSD slot has slowly become loose and now holding the device feels like cheap plastic. I don't access the port at all, save the one time i put the sd card in.
Anyone else noticing this build issue?
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yes the same is
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When I bought it, bestbuy had no covers. Now I guess more are getting released.
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Most of my local Best Buys had the Samsung cover (white), and a black Belkin one on release date. You can check on their website what is in stock at your local stores. I'm sure more are on the way, too.
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Most of my local Best Buys had the Samsung cover (white), and a black Belkin one on release date. You can check on their website what is in stock at your local stores. I'm sure more are on the way, too.
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The Samsung cover, does it stay closed on the screen just by weight, or do the magnets actually keep it closed?
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I have same problem same area since day 1. Went to exchange, all sold oit! Other 2 problems are lightbleed and loose micro usb port.
maybe you provide us with an image to better describe the situation
Well. It is quite plasticy
I have mine over a week now, and haven't felt it loose. You should trade it mate. I like the bezel of the tab but the plastic is really annoying. There are quite a few cases out there though...
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So I've owned the tablet for over a week now. I like it. However the plastic backing around the microSD slot has slowly become loose and now holding the device feels like cheap plastic. I don't access the port at all, save the one time i put the sd card in.
Anyone else noticing this build issue?
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I got mine a few days ago and I must say I quite like it! The only build issue I have is a somewhat remarkable amount of light bleed along the bottom but it doesn't bother me enough to post a pic of it. Best buy only had one case that didn't look very good so I'm still sporting the protective back covering till more cases are in stock. I have high hopes for this!
I am on my 3rd Note trade in. It finally is not loose next to the sdcard. I told them I expect near Perfection if I Pay 400 for an 8 inch tablet!
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I am on my 3rd Note trade in. It finally is not loose next to the sdcard. I told them I expect near Perfection if I Pay 400 for an 8 inch tablet!
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It really should be of better build quality for $400. Or it should be at least $100 cheaper. I have the 10.1 and it feels OK, not terribly cheap but not of high quality. I will be putting it up on eBay and going to the 8.0 regardless, due to it being a more pragmatic size for my day to day use. I’m just waiting on the black version.
I had this problem as well. I replaced it at best buy and haven't had a problem with the new one.
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you know it dont matter for they all are the same. The back just pops off very easy. Build quality was just to cheap and to thick for me.
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you know it dont matter for they all are the same. The back just pops off very easy. Build quality was just to cheap and to thick for me.
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Sure the build quality could be better but I haven't had a single issue with mine since I bought it on release day. From the reports here it seems like maybe some of them are not as solid as others.
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you know it dont matter for they all are the same. The back just pops off very easy. Build quality was just to cheap and to thick for me.
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Obviously they are not "all the same" since some owners are reporting here that there are no issues with theirs. I think most people are going to use some type of case with this, so IMO it's not too much of an issue. Of course I would like to see better build quality, but I don't think it's that bad. I agree that the plastic back is too shiny/greasy/slippery/nasty, but then again most people are going to put it in a case.
You can get a good sense of the build quality by checking out the display units at Best Buy (if you live in the U.S.). These things are handled by tons of people and kids each day who treat them with little respect because they don't have any personal investment in them. You can always tell which products on display have subpar build quality.
And Really? It was too thick for you? How much thinner do you want it? There won't be any room for the battery if it's thinner, or for the S-Pen silo/dock. I'd rather have a bit longer battery life and a secure place to store my S-pen rather than a thinner tablet. The weight, thickness, and balance in the hand are the best I have experienced in this general size.
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Oooooooo magnets Are bad man. Not so much for regular phones but for phones with stylus and digitizer it will over time cause dead area s on your screen. Don't believe me ?
Head over to the note 2 forums and check out all the problems with cases involving magnet clasps. If got so bad the companies offered to replace your magnet sealing case with one with a simple button in stead. I had one and as soon as I put it on I started having problems with the area around that magnet.
Just stay away from magnetic cases period. Just trust me. Or mess up big time. Once that part of the screen gets borked its borked
That pic is the replacement one with the button they sent me. Also watch out for those magnetic kickstand cases. Big no no too those utilize neodymium!
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Obviously they are not "all the same" since some owners are reporting here that there are no issues with theirs. I think most people are going to use some type of case with this, so IMO it's not too much of an issue. Of course I would like to see better build quality, but I don't think it's that bad. I agree that the plastic back is too shiny/greasy/slippery/nasty, but then again most people are going to put it in a case.
You can get a good sense of the build quality by checking out the display units at Best Buy (if you live in the U.S.). These things are handled by tons of people and kids each day who treat them with little respect because they don't have any personal investment in them. You can always tell which products on display have subpar build quality.
And Really? It was too thick for you? How much thinner do you want it? There won't be any room for the battery if it's thinner, or for the S-Pen silo/dock. I'd rather have a bit longer battery life and a secure place to store my S-pen rather than a thinner tablet. The weight, thickness, and balance in the hand are the best I have experienced in this general size.
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Amen thin ness had gone to far. I don't want any thiner devices. Just keep them how they are and make better thinner batteries cpus whatever. Battery tech needs a big overhaul that's our biggest weakness
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Meh, might as well. Repost from OnePlus Forums.
Update: finally added the Note 2 battery's weight
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I should add that I facilitate no allegiance to any particular phone brand, nor am I sponsored by any phone brand. I work for myself, and make my own decisions based on fact, not personal biases. I love the OnePlus One as a phone, I just don't like what the company is doing to their customers.
It all started when I created a thread about the iPhone 5C's battery being able to be upgraded. I was then met with the question: "Why didn't OnePlus make the battery on its One removable? Another manufacturer, Samsung, could make a phone that had a larger removable battery in a form factor that was thinner and shorter than the OPO, even with the addition of a MicroSD slot and a USB 3.0 port." I was informed that OnePlus chose to make their battery non-removable, because if they did, it would end up being a 2500 mAh cell, 80% that of the current 3100 mAh, due to the inclusion of a protective shell, regulatory circuitry, spring contacts etc.
Then I thought, "Weird; the 5" Samsung Galaxy S4 has a removable battery, but it has a 2600 mAh battery!" So to settle things once and for all (for now), I went ahead and disassembled my OnePlus One, to compare its internal battery's volume with a removable equivalent, the Samsung Galaxy Note 2's (also 3100 mAh). Seeing that OnePlus warranty is near non-existent anyway, even if the phone did fail or malfunction due to manufacturer fault, I'd just get another phone to save the trouble of going through RMA hell.
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Now, I'm not going to dissect the batteries; rechargeable cells are very dangerous, and can explode if punctured. So, I measured the dimensions of both batteries to calculate their respective volumes. I didn't have a digital scale on me, so I couldn't calculate the energy density of Li-ion (Note 2) vs. LiPo (OPO).
The dimensions (in milimeters) of the batteries are as follows:
OnePlus One
Length: 83.39 mm
Width: 57.84 mm
Thickness: 4.38 mm
Volume: 21125.96 cubic mm
Energy Density (power/weight): 230.98 Wh/kg
Volumetric Mass Density (weight/volume): 0.0024 g/cubic mm
Note 2
Length: 75.00 mm
Width: 55.44 mm
Thickness: 5.65 mm
Volume: 23492.7 cubic mm
Energy Density (power/weight): 226.54 Wh/kg
Volumetric Mass Density (weight/volume): 0.0022 g/cubic mm
This makes the volume of the OnePlus One's battery 89.9% that of the Note 2's, so the percentage difference is only 10.1%. Keep in mind that this is lithium ion vs. lithium polymer. Li-ions need more protective circuitry to prevent overcharging and exploding and whatnot, compared to their LiPo counterparts. And from what I heard, LiPos have a higher energy density than Li-ions, which is why I wanted to calculate how much the batteries weighed as well.
Edit: The OnePlus One's battery has a comparatively higher energy density (1.8% higher), a smaller volume, and a higher mass density (8.3%!!!!) than the Note 2's, meaning a LiPo battery should provide more power than a Li-ion of the same weight and volume. But, since the difference is so small, it's probably going to cancel out once we take into account the protective shell and protection circuits and whatnot. In conclusion, the point below still stands due to the negligible difference because it is calculated based on the removable equivalent having around the same specifications.
Just going by these numbers, a removable equivalent for the OnePlus should be roughly 2780 mAh (10.4% decrease), not 2500 as OnePlus has claimed (a ~20% decrease). Of course, this is inconclusive, but this should give you a better idea of what's actually happening here.
The Galaxy S4 featured here is the LTE-A version, sporting a Snapdragon 800 chipset, more closely related to the OPO's Snapdragon 801 compared to the Snapdragon 600 S4.
I have discovered that the OnePlus's processor may not be adequately cooled. Since smartphones are passive devices, they aren't actively cooled by fans like computers are, so they rely on heat dissipation through the use of a heatsink of some sort.
The Samsung Galaxy S4's chassis is made of magnesium alloy, just not as abundantly so as the OPO. The logic board well is form-fitting, and there are thermal pads that contact the underside of the logic board to the chassis in order to dissipate heat. Since the chassis is so big, heat is easily dissipated.
The OPO, however, looks like it's insulated at the area where the chipset is closest to the chassis with what seems to be carbon paper/film. Now, I'm no materials expert (and correct me if I'm wrong), but I'm pretty sure carbon in this state should act as an insulator. I say this because iPhones use the same stuff on the chassis to protect the LCD from heat damage (on the iPhone, the film is on the LCD side and not the logic board side).
On the underside of the logic board, we see that there's a steel cage covering the on-board components, covered by a thermal pad.
What does this mean? It means that under load, a Samsung phone will feel hotter to the touch, because that's the passive cooling system in action. In the case of the OnePlus one, it might not feel as hot as a Samsung under similar loads, but when it does get hot, it's really, really hot. So hot that the small heatsink and carbon film can't contain or dissipate it.
For size comparison purposes, here's the Galaxy S4's logic board next to the OPO's. Remember that the S4 is a 5 inch phone.
Assembly was probably quite sloppy; the tape used to insulate the speaker contacts is off-center on the left speaker.
The weak vibrate motor cannot be upgraded, as it is soldered to the flex.
The earpiece grille is centered on the front of the phone, but it is offset to the left internally because the camera module takes up the space in the center, as can be seen below. This may or may not contribute to the low earpiece volume, since it is channeled.
The rear microphone (pictured below) is also offset slightly lower than the hole next to the rear camera. Outside, the hole is parallel to the center-point of the camera lens, but internally, it is parallel to the top of the flash LED closest to the camera. I'm not sure how effective this placement is. The top microphone (refer to picture above, left of front camera hole) is channeled.
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This is what i call informative!Thank you @vantt1
Very informative, thank you.
Thanks was it that difficult?
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Thank You. So how hard would it be to replace the battery when the original starts dying?
Good work!
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This was amazingly informative, one of the best posts I've seen in awhile! Kudos mate
It's hard to tell the thermal conductivity of carbon because it largely depends on the allotrope (type of carbon).
carbon is an excellent heat conductor, it even better than metal.
janice1234 said:
carbon is an excellent heat conductor, it even better than metal.
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It depends on what form of carbon - some are excellent but others are mediocre, at best.
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Not that difficult, I've had difficult-er
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It's hard to tell the thermal conductivity of carbon because it largely depends on the allotrope (type of carbon).
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Yeah, that's why I was "pretty sure" and not "completely sure". I have yet to find any straight answers as to whether if carbon is a conductor or insulator.
I know for a fact that iPhones have a similar sticker on their chassis. It's found on the midframe between the LCD and the logic board, and it is stuck on the LCD side. It is commonly called the heat shield, meaning it protects the LCD from the logic board's heat. Since it's on the LCD side and not the logic board side, I'm more inclined to think it's an insulator.
iPhone 4:
iPhone 5S:
It would make no sense for it to be a conductor, or else it'd conduct the heat to the LCD.
Great informative post... Thx for the teardown.
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Great post, thank you
Worth it to just to see the rd battery !!!
nice work thanks,
I'll open mine as soon they release the kevlar back ! :silly:
Does LiPo also have a limited number of charges like Li-ion? Will we have to deal with shorter battery life as it ages?
nice work!
nice work!
Thank you so much!
Thanks,
Excellent work. You're a braver man than I for sure!!!!!!
Question: Did you get it back together and did it work???
Seems like a lot of us are like 12 year old little boys.
Take it apart and worry about the rest later, right???
Ken
notesbancales said:
Worth it to just to see the rd battery !!!
nice work thanks,
I'll open mine as soon they release the kevlar back ! :silly:
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I think OnePlus canceled all the StyleSwap covers for good.
clevebb said:
Does LiPo also have a limited number of charges like Li-ion? Will we have to deal with shorter battery life as it ages?
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Yes, it does. All batteries, li-ion and LiPo, will decrease in capacity the more charge cycles it goes through.
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Thanks,
Excellent work. You're a braver man than I for sure!!!!!!
Question: Did you get it back together and did it work???
Seems like a lot of us are like 12 year old little boys.
Take it apart and worry about the rest later, right???
Ken
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Of course!
Very detailed indeed, so how hard do you think it is to replace the screen/digitizer?
Thanks
The battery in my XT1575 finally gave out, so I ordered a new on on eBay. When I went to swap it out, I found that the original had a slight curve that helped it form properly to the case. The new battery is perfectly flat. All the markings are identical. I'm afraid to try to bend the battery to take form because I don't want it to blow up in my face. Any experienced user have a clue what to do?
A J
Yes send it back and see if the seller has a curved one.
My flat replacement battery fit in the space.
Pretty sure it should be flat... If it's rounded maybe it's bulging.
It is rounded, I've already replaced the battery and I am going to have to do it again for the 2nd time because of eBay junk.
The original batteries are rounded along the length of the battery. You will have to round the flat battery to fit it in otherwise you risk damaging the LCD panel as the pressure will screw it up.
I have not been able to find a battery that is pre-rounded and the correct grams in weight. So far I've got cheated on 2 batteries weighing in at 10 grams less than the original battery and they both last less than the depleted original so that has created a situation for me. Every time you take the phone apart you risk messing it up and those little tiny plugs can't take a lot of wear and tear before they snap and break.
The batteries from eBay are clones and they weigh about 36 grams, the original batteries weigh in at 46 - 50 grams.
The clone batteries are good enough to get a phone working but as they say, battery life is everything when you are mobile, and it is a mobile phone after all.
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If anyone knows of a good 50 gram battery source please let me know.
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I just wanted to add a note, rounding the battery is done at your own risk as it is dangerous!
I wore heavy gloves and eye protection to make sure I didn't get burned if I managed to screw it up.
Easiest way to bend it is to wedge the battery between two heavy boards bend and turn around and bend the two edges. about 30 degrees, as I stated before you can't install a flat battery as it will eventually kill your LCD screen because of pressure in the wrong places.
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Clever knockoffs or ordinary knockoffs?
Just out of curiosity, did any of your "featherweight" batteries look like genuine Motorola parts from the front?
How did you know the battery was done?
I've been troubleshooting my phone turning off randomly. It turns off while in use (if I leave it alone, it stays on). It refuses to turn back on or acts like it has a low battery until I plug it in. Then it acts like it had battery all along and turns on.
Is this my battery? time for replacement?
I was on MM rooted unlocked bootloader. Just updated to Nougat today to troubleshoot. On Nougat stock and Nougat rooted, same issue. Shuts off randomly.
Notes from doing an install of new battery -
Jjust completed install of replacement battery
Kit that purchased from Amazon :
https://tinyurl.com/y9cvldya
This is not a job for the faint of heart ; it has nothing to do with the quality of the battery or tools provided. Recommend you watch this video first - https://tinyurl.com/yc2wk7m2 - if you are willing to do this. Directions were great in the video - I had an issue with power / volume not working - reviewed this site - https://tinyurl.com/ycympu6y - and figured out that I had not seated the one ribbon cable properly
Tools that came with the kit worked fine - I found I used the 4 torx to unscrew / 3 torx to put back -- just go slow. Also - the two white strips have no explanation - they are double sided to keep the back cover on once you are done. That was the only "tool" in the kit I wasn't really clear about.
Zero instructions / hints come the kit - refer to the YouTube video posted and the Ifixit information
Really early - but from a couple of days ; this new battery gives me performance like the phone was when new - battery I replaced was discharging to about 80% within first hour of unplugging from charger
Please don't...
stevejohnson42 said:
Jjust completed install of replacement battery
Kit that purchased from Amazon :
https://tinyurl.com/y9cvldya
This is not a job for the faint of heart ; it has nothing to do with the quality of the battery or tools provided. Recommend you watch this video first - https://tinyurl.com/yc2wk7m2 - if you are willing to do this. Directions were great in the video - I had an issue with power / volume not working - reviewed this site - https://tinyurl.com/ycympu6y - and figured out that I had not seated the one ribbon cable properly
Tools that came with the kit worked fine - I found I used the 4 torx to unscrew / 3 torx to put back -- just go slow. Also - the two white strips have no explanation - they are double sided to keep the back cover on once you are done. That was the only "tool" in the kit I wasn't really clear about.
Zero instructions / hints come the kit - refer to the YouTube video posted and the Ifixit information
Really early - but from a couple of days ; this new battery gives me performance like the phone was when new - battery I replaced was discharging to about 80% within first hour of unplugging from charger
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Honestly, the procedure isn't too bad compared to other devices. If you care about your phone even a little bit though, don't buy those crappy knockoff batteries, as they're usually worse than a 3-year-old original battery. For the record, I keep it on my dresser as a monument to "why not to buy cheap batteries". It is currently twice as swollen as was pictured. If I had left it in my phone, it would have destroyed the device physically. I thought that because it was "curved," it'd be legit, but I was quite wrong.
For the record, the only remaining seller of genuine/OEM FX30 batteries for this phone is oem_liquidation. It's pricey, but well worth it. You couldn't even pay me to use one of those Amazon/ebay specials anymore. I've learned my lesson.
Bill720 said:
Honestly, the procedure isn't too bad compared to other devices. If you care about your phone even a little bit though, don't buy those crappy knockoff batteries, as they're usually worse than a 3-year-old original battery. For the record, I keep it on my dresser as a monument to "why not to buy cheap batteries". It is currently twice as swollen as was pictured. If I had left it in my phone, it would have destroyed the device physically. I thought that because it was "curved," it'd be legit, but I was quite wrong.
For the record, the only remaining seller of genuine/OEM FX30 batteries for this phone is oem_liquidation. It's pricey, but well worth it. You couldn't even pay me to use one of those Amazon/ebay specials anymore. I've learned my lesson.
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Thanks for the inputs - at this point I cannot really comment on the long term viability of the battery bought from Amazon -- basically have had it installed for about a week now.
My main objective was to get my thoughts posted -- this seems to be an unappreciated phone and not a lot out there. I tried to post the review on Amazon - but got rejected ; would assume because of the links I added to try and give someone some ideas of the resources that I found helpful.
The amount of glue really surprised me .. even though I had a bit of a warning from the video. I suspect it also has something to do with why it is listed as having some water resistance -- the way the glue was added would have provided a good seal for moisture incursion.
General commentary on the Pure Edition and repairs
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My main objective was to get my thoughts posted -- this seems to be an unappreciated phone and not a lot out there.
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I agree. It didn't have a lot of press to begin with, despite its epicness, and most of the phone snobs have moved on by now.
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I tried to post the review on Amazon - but got rejected ; would assume because of the links I added to try and give someone some ideas of the resources that I found helpful.
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That happened to me once before too (for a different item). Amazon lets me review most of my purchases, (the few that I do perform on that irritating website, as well as those of products that I didn't buy through their market) but does give me trouble every once in a while.
I'd wait a few months until you know if it's going to work or not before posting the review anyway.
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The amount of glue really surprised me .. even though I had a bit of a warning from the video. I suspect it also has something to do with why it is listed as having some water resistance -- the way the glue was added would have provided a good seal for moisture incursion.
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It is a bit annoying to service, but not nearly as bad as certain other devices. And if it contributes to water resistance, I don't mind too much. The real headache comes with repeated service due to having to replace a defective replacement battery. If I'd just gotten a good one right out of the starting gate, I could've probably kept the original adhesive and back cover.
Interestingly enough, the replacement back cover, while sized identically to the original, feels slightly different and attracts far more dust. It's almost like it's made out of a softer material somehow. The seller claimed it was OEM, but I'm not so sure. Either way, it works, so I'll probably leave it alone for right now.
At any rate, I hope the battery lasts long and that the phone serves you well. Congratulations on the successful repair.
I wish you the best for your battery lasting. I was lucky enough to get a good one and thus far it is going strong after nearly 7 months. I love this phone despite it having worse battery life when compared to some of its peers out there. Battery life is good enough for me.
Over the past two years I've done some sort of "surgery" on four XT1575s. Three were battery issues, one was the micro USB socket. While it feels weird to start a careful disassembly by ripping off a rubber back, the rest of the process was clear to see on any number of YouTube videos and fairly easy to do. My only caution -- at all times, as you separate any two pieces, check carefully to make sure you're not damaging the thin connector for the battery, the power, that sticky patterned copper thing, maybe something else. One tug too hard and you're dead in the water until the new part arrives.
My DD is an XT1575. So is my wife's. And my son's. And a close friend. I talked each of them into buying the phone and none of them regret it. I too am mystified that this excellently designed phone doesn't get more recognition.
Check out 'elecdude' on ebay, currently listing
Stock Battery
I've dealt w/ in the last 30 days - extremely GOOD communication, clarifications etc. both batt's I recieved (for different phone) were OEM original MFG date 2021 work excellent.
Since I've got 2 of these XT1575, am waiting to hear back on the mfg. date and whether the battery is CURVED - there's lots of reports of aftermarket battery being flat, causing faults on the screen.
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Check out 'elecdude' on ebay, currently listing
Stock Battery
I've dealt w/ in the last 30 days - extremely GOOD communication, clarifications etc. both batt's I recieved (for different phone) were OEM original MFG date 2021 work excellent.
Since I've got 2 of these XT1575, am waiting to hear back on the mfg. date and whether the battery is CURVED - there's lots of reports of aftermarket battery being flat, causing faults on the screen.
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My guess is at one point the battery out gassed, inflated and that caused it to bend like that! The gases where vented out latter and it retained that shape. If so you came close to incurring major damage.
I can't tell for sure but the replacement seems thicker if so that won't fly.
Go with the OEM one only!
If you ever autopsied one you know what I mean. I call them bag batteries now! The only way it could be curved is to be bent after it was wound ie forced to bend.
You can see what appear to be stress areas on either end of the original. WTF?
I seriously doubt it's bend by design... that looks more like a failed Li.
*See if you can find some repair vids of it or at least tear down vids to confirm the cell is actually flat... as a bag battery can be.
Interesting observation... my 'body donor' (got on ebay like $25 for they didn't know to enlarge the screen to get the navigation buttons workin) may in fact have a bad board - but isn't doing too bad on batt....
If the "REAL Xt1575" (64mb) ever ships, would naturally consider replacing battery... it was new in 2017 (that's not new enough) before I go runnin' it as a DD.... THANK YOU for the input - I was seeing many reviews on Amazon for "flat" battery causing screen issues
VW
PS WHERE (please lord, where) is our Telegram channel? I've already killed an LG using outdated "Man-Pages" here on XDA
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Interesting observation... my 'body donor' (got on ebay like $25 for they didn't know to enlarge the screen to get the navigation buttons workin) may in fact have a bad board - but isn't doing too bad on batt....
If the "REAL Xt1575" (64mb) ever ships, would naturally consider replacing battery... it was new in 2017 (that's not new enough) before I go runnin' it as a DD.... THANK YOU for the input - I was seeing many reviews on Amazon for "flat" battery causing screen issues
VW
PS WHERE (please lord, where) is our Telegram channel? I've already killed an LG using outdated "Man-Pages" here on XDA
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That's damn curious. It's always possible they pulled a "Sony" and did some creative post engineering during assembly. Check the actual space's physical dimensions.
Excessive pressure on the display can certainly damage it.
My Note 10+ recently had a battery fail and it was bulging the rear cover out. Didn't spot it because of the case as I obstantly and repeatedly charged it from 0 to 100% trying to get fast charging working
Erratic fast charging is a symptom of an Li failure so I learned.
I was fortunate not to have damaged the display.
So in your experience, avoid the upgraded batts - they'll not fit?
The dealer i found on ebay is definitely shipping OEM parts, and if I send a message am certain he'll respond with the mfr. date.
I use a cell shoppe here that's motorla certified, might simply go with what they provide they're not cheap but stand by their work.
Have reached the age hands shake too much for micro-surgury on delicate things
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So in your experience, avoid the upgraded batts - they'll not fit?
The dealer i found on ebay is definitely shipping OEM parts, and if I send a message am certain he'll respond with the mfr. date.
I use a cell shoppe here that's motorla certified, might simply go with what they provide they're not cheap but stand by their work.
Have reached the age hands shake too much for micro-surgury on delicate things
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Go OEM.
Deprenyl stat. Protects the nigra substantia region of the brain.
Nicotine also has protective properties.
hi, if we started topic about battery replacement issues i will ask about my issue too, so few days ago i bought new battery for my moto x style that should be 3000mah but after few charges estimated capacity in accubattery is at around 2000mah, should i return this battery or should i try doing some calibration of it?