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No 1.6 from HTC for HERO?

Swedish android site swedroid.se published a little snippet from a members communication with HTC about 1.6 for HERO.
Dear HTC customer,
The Hero will not be receiving the Android 1.6 upgrade, it will however get the 2.0 one. Do note however that we do not have a confirmed release date for this upgrade, all I can recommend at the moment is that you keep yourself updated by visiting our website regularly as the latest information will be available to view from there.
Best regards,
HTC customer support team
HTC Corp. Global Service Division
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If we get 2.0 not to far from now I really won't miss 1.6 either really. Kernel sources + 2.0 in a not so distant future is acceptable if 1.6 is not released. Thoughts?

Really????
I was looking forward to the release of 1.6 for my Hero!
Ah well, roll on Android 2.0, Hopefully this will be very soon.

I wont miss 1.6, i'd rather get 2.0 and skip donut all together.
2.0 gets free google nav software

Hmm - i prefer small incremental updates.
2.0 will be atleast 2(?) months off?

maybe, i think by christmas...wouldn't that be nice

1.6 was a nice to have, but 2.0 looks like it's going to improve quite a few. Lets hope they get it out soon, looks like the Moto Droid is already running 2.0 - released Nov 6th.

kosmiq said:
Swedish android site swedroid.se published a little snippet from a members communication with HTC about 1.6 for HERO.
If we get 2.0 not to far from now I really won't miss 1.6 either really. Kernel sources + 2.0 in a not so distant future is acceptable if 1.6 is not released. Thoughts?
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Thx for this update. I was in contact with HTC via email recently (about 2 weeks) and at this time they told me they don't know yet if an updated ROM based on 1.6 will be released (and when).
Today I wrote them again regarding 2.0 (before I saw this thread), so I'll keep you up to date here as soon they get back to me ...

...then I waiting Android 2.0
Is good.

This is also confirmed on the HTC Twitter feed.. http://twitter.com/htc

is this going to be for gsm again and no cdma?!

Android 2.2 for Hero

dose any one think there will be a port of 2.2 standard build to the Hero as this would be a good thing as it has flash & jit built in.
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I don't think so..
I don't believe that HTC will invest money and time to develop it..

I doubt HTC would invest in a port anyway.. But I sure see some chance of the Legend being updated and this rom being portable by some rom genius to the Hero, why not?
Assuming there are any Hero's existing at the time an actual update to 2.2 will be available for the Legend

Ofcourse. This doesn't need to be done by HTC.
We've seen many ports for the Hero. We had 1.6 and then 2.1 ported to the Hero, before the Legend roms were even leaked. Just recently the MyTouch Slide (HTC Espresso) has been ported to the Hero, so I don't see why we won't see 2.2 (Froyo) on the Hero.
It's not only down to porting it from the Legend, we could see a port from a new device, not yet released.
There's no point waiting for HTC to officially release 2.1 or 2.2. The custom roms on here are a better option and to be honest, I don't think I'll even update to the official 2.1 release when it eventually comes out, because Sense on the MyTouch Slide port is far better. Obviously I will if they update to this new version of Sense, but I doubt they'll do that.
But yes, I'm confident we will see Froyo on the Hero, not officially from HTC however.

wtf is this!2.2?They sureley havent finished 2.1 yet!

@bonesy
lol....
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Arranmc182 said:
dose any one think there will be a port of 2.2 standard build to the Hero as this would be a good thing as it has flash & jit built in.
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Start a petition

I think minor updates like 2.2 should be easily possible after the HTC Hero gets the OTA Update possibility during the 2.1 update.
I don't think that HTC needs to put in much ressources for minor updates.
At least this is what i expect, because if EVERY minor update is handled like the 2.1 one with long delays, then many people will think twice before getting an HTC device. But only time will tell...

from what i read it would have to be custom 2.2 as it will have jit built in and the sense ui is not compatable yet. also woulnt 2.1 drivers be easyer to port to 2.2 than 1.5 to 2.1.
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I don't think the hero will be able to keep up enough to run 2.2.
Since it has flash 10.1 and the hero isn't powerful enough to run it. Maybe a cleaned out version.

i dont mind about flash as i wouldnt use it for videos as android has a youtube app for most the videos i watch would be ok for other flash stuff but i know what you mean about speed but the hero as standard came with htc flash and thhat worked ok
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Let we just wait untill the 2.1 update, then we move on
btw, what is JIT?

Let we just wait untill the 2.1 update, then we move on
btw, what is JIT?
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JIT : just in time compiler....is used to compile code...
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JIT : just in time compiler....is used to compile code...
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yeah its to compile code on the fly so that it runs apps faster on the device
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Well, in my humble opinion, with some overcloacking, and jit, i think we could think about running 2.2, so in my opinion yes, there is a possibility, the problem is to get a 2.2 kernel source...

I'd love getting 2.2 on my Hero, with all the auto-updating and individual stock program updates automatically being pushed to your device.

There will be no 2.2 for Heros ... and Google (not HTC) is the reason for this. For Froyo they will upgrade the kernel from 2.6.29 (used for Android 1.6,2.0,2.1) to 2.6.3x and no one at HTC will take the effort to update the drivers for the Hero. There will be minor bug fixes for the 2.1 Hero release, but no major upgrade in future.
Google sucks, HTC sucks and if they keep it this way, Android fragmentation will suck even more.

makerber said:
There will be no 2.2 for Heros ... and Google (not HTC) is the reason for this. For Froyo they will upgrade the kernel from 2.6.29 (used for Android 1.6,2.0,2.1) to 2.6.3x and no one at HTC will take the effort to update the drivers for the Hero. There will be minor bug fixes for the 2.1 Hero release, but no major upgrade in future.
Google sucks, HTC sucks and if they keep it this way, Android fragmentation will suck even more.
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How does using the latest kernel (with bug fixes, and many new features) make it google's fault. It's HTC who won't be bothered to update drivers etc (to be fair on them, the hero is an old handset for them and there's no point for them to do it)

Whatever bugs are in the kernel, Google already fixed/patched them for the Android 2.6.29 kernel. The kernel adaption they are doing are minor (power management, OpenBinder, etc.). So there is no real reason to upgrade that often. They kept the kernel stable for 3 version and now they are breaking compatibility again - why?
Look at MontaVista, Windriver and many others that do embedded Linux and guess how often they update kernels? However I agree with you that Heros will possibly not be able to run Froyo properly anyhow, so why bother with them? Overall it is a frustrating experience - but don't get me wrong here, despite this update odysee I am more than happy with my Android powered device and my next one will be Android again. Maybe not from HTC, and maybe I will not be awaiting any updates that eagerly again but let's see what comes next.

The chances of getting 2.2 are practically none. As has been stated, 2.2 will be using an upgraded kernel from 2.1. The only reason we have 2.1 ROM's at the moment is because there was a hacked leaked kernel from HTC (which is why it is buggy and has poor battery life), so unless HTC actually commit to an official release for the hero, even the geniuses here at XDA wouldn't be able to get 2.2 running on our Hero's.

Official 2.1 for HTC Hero

Head over to HTC Hero forums. They have got official 2.1 with sense UI for hero. Can somebody port the official release for 32A magic? Waiting for magic to happen from any great developer.

paindoo said:
Head over to HTC Hero forums. They have got official 2.1 with sense UI for hero. Can somebody port the official release for 32A magic? Waiting for magic to happen from any great developer.
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be patient, most probably they're working on it

Dammit, Rogers just release the **** already!

work started!!!

A lot of people are having trouble with that ROM; they are saying that it is bogging down their phone and making it a "slow POS". Hopefully we can fix that

htc magic for rogers already have official rom ?

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htc magic for rogers already have official rom ?
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You mean the 2.1 with Sense? Latest rumors says that Rogers will test it/release it in the end of june...or is that rumor dead?

I don`t think so ... It looks too real http://twitter.com/RogersMary/status/14765494149

Krzysiec said:
I don`t think so ... It looks too real http://twitter.com/RogersMary/status/14765494149
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Oh, they'll start "testing" it on end of june, sooo ... like ... we have on October or so

I have tested it last night with our device, with most features enabled.
it is faster than legend port. but it is slower than eris port. and...
what surprised me..., it has more bugs than eris port and legend port. both aosp kernel driver and htc's will break something, so I need to do some repairing.
and I am worry about the port jobs in the future. HTC modified more and more basic libs in android layer. maybe replacing libs will become harder and harder.
my biggest interest now is the Dalvik and new webkit in 2.2, but we can't get the sources at current
I have very few time, so I don't know if I should upload my current version, or I should test it more?
it have a bug which make me sick, bluetooth component wants to update database again and again. but this bug is not appeared every time, so a reboot will "fix" it. but I have very bad feeling with it.
and I don't know how to make default APN list too. I am not good at these things. I just put it into /etc as usual, but it didn't work. I have to add my APN manually it seems that this version is for specified mobile operator in Taiwan.
only thing (I have found) which is better than eris port, it uses same graphics as legend.

FirstNoobToBrickHisPhone said:
Dammit, Rogers just release the **** already!
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rogers cant release it till htc gives it to them at the end of june....
its not rogers its htc we need to release it...

a release coming real soon
seems to be fastest

"a release coming real soon
seems to be fastest"
Can't wait to see if it is worth it

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[Q] No HTC sense 2.1 for HTC Desire Z

It's confirmed by Frandroid (FRENCH SITE):
This is the orignal link:
http://www.frandroid.com/60377/pas-de-mises-a-jour-pour-les-anciens-smartphones-htc/
And the google traduction:
http://translate.google.fr/translat...ises-a-jour-pour-les-anciens-smartphones-htc/

Actually they're pretty lame in english, so let's hope they misunderstood...

What does Sense 2.1 add over 2.0?

I don't think it's what added over 2.0 that matters, but the underlying OS, ie Android 2.3.

If this is true it would be sad.

Maciz said:
What does Sense 2.1 add over 2.0?
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Quick setting button when you slide down the notification panel, better calendar,
etc. But the point is if they already stop updating the interface for their phone
because they prefer to concentrate their efforts on newer phones, then you can't expect a long term support for the desire z, HD and desire.
Here's an overview of 2.1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzrneY5tbo0

that would be the last site that i trust...lol..

wont trust that site either
anyway custrom roms might be comming anyway

I bet the Sense update will be released with Gingerbread : http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/htc...t-for-android-23-gingerbread-update-50002752/

crimsdings said:
wont trust that site either
anyway custrom roms might be comming anyway
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frandroid is a good source of information for Android. They recently cover the mobile world congress. You can trust them.

[Q] Gingerbread Source (Glitch fix)??

http://htcdev.com/
What does this mean for us HD2 users?

It means we might have to wait a bit longer for the actual source to come available.. But there might be some interesting things in this ROM. We will know shortly

Sorry to keep asking questions, but what source is needed? I see the source for the GB kernels for various phones - what exactly is missing?
Just trying to understand better.

MikeG4936 said:
Sorry to keep asking questions, but what source is needed? I see the source for the GB kernels for various phones - what exactly is missing?
Just trying to understand better.
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Asking questions is never wrong .. The source files contain drivers for the different phones, which is why they are all released seperately. Every device has different hardware, and the Desire has the closest resemblence to the hardware found in our HD2. This is also why many think the Desire source will really help in the development of Gingerbread ROM versions on the HD2 (like it did before on the previous Android releases, for example the camera).
What has been released on HTCdev.com (if I understand correctly), is the ROM upgrade itself, and not the actual kernel source. It may seem weird, because it is the only 'official' ROM upgrade that has been put up on HTCdev.com yet. They are not releasing it OTA (over the air) to all Desires, so they had to put it somewhere easy to be found by devs. This is why it has been put up on that page, which might have been confusing (because many would think it actually is the kernel source). As far as I can see, the package only contains the upgrade itself and 2 APK's. Usually it takes a while longer for this to become available, but per Linux license they are obliged to release it. Eventually.
I think there will be some interesting APK's in this ROM nevertheless.. We'll just have to wait until someone (one of the dev's) has explored the ROM thoroughly.

but it can't be to long from now till the sources are released.

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Asking questions is never wrong .. The source files contain drivers for the different phones, which is why they are all released seperately. Every device has different hardware, and the Desire has the closest resemblence to the hardware found in our HD2. This is also why many think the Desire source will really help in the development of Gingerbread ROM versions on the HD2 (like it did before on the previous Android releases, for example the camera).
What has been released on HTCdev.com (if I understand correctly), is the ROM upgrade itself, and not the actual kernel source. It may seem weird, because it is the only 'official' ROM upgrade that has been put up on HTCdev.com yet. They are not releasing it OTA (over the air) to all Desires, so they had to put it somewhere easy to be found by devs. This is why it has been put up on that page, which might have been confusing (because many would think it actually is the kernel sournce). As far as I can see, the package only contains the upgrade itself and 2 APK's. Usually it takes a while longer for this to become available, but per Linux license they are obliged to release it. Eventually.
I think there will be some interesting APK's in this ROM nevertheless.. We'll just have to wait until someone (one of the dev's) has explored the ROM thoroughly.
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Excellente. Couldn't have said it better. The update's been out for almost a week. And from videos that I've seen, HTC did not upgrade the Sense version to 2.1 or 2.0 for the matter.
But of course all we need is the kernel source.
I'd also like to ask any of the devs:
Will a new kernel need to be compiled when the Desire gingerbread source is released? Hint hint: Rafpigna 2.1?
Also, I'm not familiar with the OC deal, but is it possible to overclock over 1.5 ghz on our HD2? I've seen 1.9 ghz on Desire Z/G2, and almost 1.8 ghz on the DHD.

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Every device has different hardware, and the Desire has the closest resemblence to the hardware found in our HD2. This is also why many think the Desire source will really help in the development of Gingerbread ROM versions on the HD2 (like it did before on the previous Android releases, for example the camera).
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Does this mean that the the HD2 is on it's "last breath" with Android? Since the Desire isn't getting updated past Gingerbread...
What about Nexus One then? It is pretty much a redesigned Desire.
Or is this necessary for Sense ROMs only, and AOSP ROMs will still work?
Wouldn't it be possible to port something like Leedroid HD then? Since it's on the Desire and it works perfectly..

SilverHedgehog said:
Does this mean that the the HD2 is on it's "last breath" with Android? Since the Desire isn't getting updated past Gingerbread...
What about Nexus One then? It is pretty much a redesigned Desire.
Or is this necessary for Sense ROMs only, and AOSP ROMs will still work?
Wouldn't it be possible to port something like Leedroid HD then? Since it's on the Desire and it works perfectly..
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With Sense builds it is the end of the road I guess.. At least for any Android releases after Gingerbread. With the other builds I am not sure.. We have quite some driver source available, and with that we can probably simply compile them on the newer AOSP and non-sense ROMS. Sense is really a problem when it comes to source, because it is proprietary software written by HTC (no full source for Sense to simply cross-compile their libs). This is also why it is so hard to make decent Sense-builds whenever a new major Android release comes out. I could be wrong here though.
Let's wait for a dev to come over and shed some light ..

Grr... It's a bad day to own both the Desire and the HD2.

SilverHedgehog said:
Grr... It's a bad day to own both the Desire and the HD2.
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True.. But I for one never could have dreamed my HD2 to be top-notch more than a year later.. It certainly was one of my best buys ever. Imagine life when we'd still be stuck on that creepy WM6.5

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True.. But I for one never could have dreamed my HD2 to be top-notch more than a year later.. It certainly was one of my best buys ever. Imagine life when we'd still be stuck on that creepy WM6.5
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Haha, that's true, I guess... I never even got to touch WM6.5 on my HD2, I bought it from Ebay with WP7. Tried it and didn't like it that much. So now I'm wondering which phone should be my primary, HD2 or Desire..

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With Sense builds it is the end of the road I guess.. At least for any Android releases after Gingerbread. With the other builds I am not sure.. We have quite some driver source available, and with that we can probably simply compile them on the newer AOSP and non-sense ROMS. Sense is really a problem when it comes to source, because it is proprietary software written by HTC (no full source for Sense to simply cross-compile their libs). This is also why it is so hard to make decent Sense-builds whenever a new major Android release comes out. I could be wrong here though.
Let's wait for a dev to come over and shed some light ..
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I'm confused - why would the HD2 be on it's last legs?
People are still developing ROMs for my G1 - hell, there's even a honeycomb rom for my G1. Until people quit developing for the HD2, I guarantee it will be on par with other devices.

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I'm confused - why would the HD2 be on it's last legs?
People are still developing ROMs for my G1 - hell, there's even a honeycomb rom for my G1. Until people quit developing for the HD2, I guarantee it will be on par with other devices.
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It's just the Sense development that will be near to impossible to be perfect.. The rest will be continued as long as there are developers interested in our HD2.

captainreynolds said:
I'm confused - why would the HD2 be on it's last legs?
People are still developing ROMs for my G1 - hell, there's even a honeycomb rom for my G1. Until people quit developing for the HD2, I guarantee it will be on par with other devices.
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The hd2 development won't die, merely the Sense ROM development unless HTC make an ice cream sandwich update for the Desire (which is unlikely but possible as Google have stated ics has been designed to work on all Android devices to date). AOSP ROMs will probably continue as long as the device stays popular.
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I just went on this sure cause I got an email from htc saying the site launched. Now I know we need the kernel source, but I just noticed this in the kernel source page:
Android 2.3 (Gingerbread) Upgrade for HTC Desire
Or is that not enough?
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