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Programs Closing Automatic.on the MDAII

Is there a possibility tha the programs does not close by them selfs? It´s quite . When i use my Pocket Informant and I open another progremm it closes by it self.The same is with the TomTom Navigator and all other Programs.??? :twisted:

I wish I knew, when using tomtom on xda1, I can go to gps too see staus and then click ok and return to tomtom, with the xda2 once I click ok I find that tomtom is closed and I have to restart the program.

Yes and it´s really sucks

@ Mike
Check the number of running processes with Task Manager and use Mirror Button to really close programs.
You can download them in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4350&highlight=
If you close a program with the OK button, it isn't really closed. And there is a limitation of 32 running processes in Windows Pocket PC. If you try to open more processes, you have a problem.
@ Cruisin: TomTom works perfect on my XDA II, also the GPS status.

I am having the same problem discussed here. I notice it particularly with Pocket Informant, since this is the program I use the most. I am running WM2003 on an SX56 (XDA1). I have the latest update, 5.01.
1. I have a program which instantly shows me all running programs and I monitor this regularly. I have a program where X closes the programs, but I periodically doublecheck. At any given time, the only things listed is "Device". So running programs is not an issue.
2. I monitor memory all the time. I try to keep Program memory at 60% or below. Even so, at worst, it will creep up to 75%. My storage memory is usually around 70%.
3. I soft reset routinely to activate a spacemaker program that I have.
At worst, a typical memory scenario for me is total MB free (both storage and memory) approximately 9 to 11 mb. (75% Memory, 70% Storage)
[at the current time I have over 10 mb free in program, and a little over 3 mb in storage. Pocket Informant is staying open at the moment]
Even with around 4 mb or so free in program memory, shouldn't Pocket Informant run okay?
In other words, at my very most used memory scenario , isn't it still theoretically enough to run programs?
Thanks for any input.

Better place to install TomTom5...

Hai guys!
Where do you have installed TomTOm 5 on your Jam?
I don't know if is better to install it on memory card, on RAM or on ROM....
Obviusly the maps on SD... :wink:
But the app?

I install everything on SD. (need to modify the registry to move the voice file to SD) So far so good.

can you indicated datail
I do install to the SD but it still intalled some files in main memory

I moved the files menually and modifiy the registry for the modified path

I installed all of it to the ROM (did the bigstorage rom hack), except for the maps which are on SD.

Install into RAM at all costs. Why? Because internal ROM and SD-Cards are way slower then internal RAM, youll slow down the speed of programs quite a lot. Using a Qtek S110 with 128MB RAM this is no problem at all but even on my old iPAQ 5450 with only 64MB RAM is was easily possible leaving 32MB for program exection.

Private-Cowboy said:
Install into RAM at all costs. Why? Because internal ROM and SD-Cards are way slower then internal RAM, youll slow down the speed of programs quite a lot. Using a Qtek S110 with 128MB RAM this is no problem at all but even on my old iPAQ 5450 with only 64MB RAM is was easily possible leaving 32MB for program exection.
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I agree RAM is the fastest one but I don't think putting everything on SD has any noticeable performance hit to run TT5 at all (it does takes more time to load, that's it). In fact, I always run TT5 + IGuidiance 2.1 + BetaPlayer all at once without performance problem. I don't want to spend extra $$$ to upgrade to 128mb and I rather save more ram to run more programs by all the tricks. (I do manage to get 35-40 mb free with many programs installed)

Smahatma said:
I installed all of it to the ROM (did the bigstorage rom hack), except for the maps which are on SD.
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Since we have to put the maps to SD anyway, I won't put the program to rom. Instead, I use my bigstorage for DLLs to save ram (by memmaid) and programs that still have to run even I need to swap the SD. Examples are:
1. Resco file explorer
2. betaplayer
3. Softick card export II.
4. Cyberon VoiceCommander (or MS Voicecommand)
5. Resco picture viewer
...

WM5, Vario and Memory management

Hi
Hope you can help me. I've had my Vario for a few weeks now, but i'm concerned about the way the memory is managed. I know about WM5 and the memory thing, but still I can't make sense of this:
Looking at my memory status, I've got 15.94 MB free on the storage memory, and only 2.39MB free on the programme side.
Currently running applications include:
pocket informant
and that's it!
i installed AvantGo, Pocket informant, Egress RSS reader, Phm registry editor, mortPlayer, O2Plus, total Commander, Spb GPRS, Clear Notify, real one, psShutXp and A-Z pock3et viewer. Some of these apps are installed on my storage card, and none of these are currently running, with the exception of a couple of today plugins.
How on earth can I go down to 2.39MB free programme memory ?
What would you advise to increase it?
I tried earlier to install AvantGo on the storage card, but it was not a success, as the system seems to shut power to the storage card occasionally (once a week?), leading to the miniSD being renamed storageCard2 when it restores power and access to it -which means shortcuts to programmes installed on the card are disabled unless you soft-reset the device.
Am I doing anything wrong? How can I increase my free programme memory?

Put it like this, applications installed on the memory card or in unlocked extendedROM's still seem to deplete storage on device. For example I put SPB pocket plus in my Extended ROM folder and then decided to delete it, as it remioved itselef, Storage went up by 1 meg. It wasn't even supposed to be in Storage so there is obviously 'cross contaminaton' of files to make certain progs work. You can run GPRS SPB from Storage cards tho. On my device I have MS Voice command 1.5, SPB GPRS monitor, HFR Switch programme, Wififofum, Resco Explorer,Tweaks 2K,Mort Player, a different dialpad skin,an Ext Rom unlocker, Pocket TV and a Draughts (checkers) game. I have 22.2 in Program Memory and 41.3 in Storage. The only other thing I don't have that you might have is some of the T-Mobile plugins and customisation and I don't have the PDF viewer.

What do you think a good amount of free program memory is?

As the topics asks.

At least 5-6 MB free is tolerable. I really miss the 128MB in the XDA 2's
Surur

ive normaly got 20mb free...runs smooth

I am around 9MB and it slowly gets less, so there might be a memory leak somewhere.
I usually get probs when the amount of free mem gets around 5 MB. More then once when ushing TomTom to background and starting another app TomTom gets closed by the device (i guess because of memory shortage)!
This really frustrates me even more as I am not really running a lot of extra processes:
Capsnotify
MS VoiceCommand
SmartSkey
Also Todayscreen is not horrifying:
WiviT SSS
Wireless
HTCTodayscreen
I am running the test QTek aku2 rom
@Sbouri; How on earth do you get 20MB of program memory free??? I dont believe I have ever seen that even after my last hard reset!

I have 17mb free at the moment, with the following running:
Smartskey
Hudson Phone dashboard
VBar
Taskplus today plugin
Resco today plugin
Phone
Activesync
and of course PIE to write this post.

Oops.

This makes it even worse for me!!
More running and 10MB more free space!!
What rom are you on then?

I have 20 Mb Ram free
I am running this Today plugins
Pocket Breeze 5.1 beta
with all other SBSH plugins as tabs in Pocket Breeze
Ilauncher 2.03
Contac Breeze 1.201
Pocket Weather 1.33
All set on static in Pocket Breeze settings.
And I am also running Wisbar Advance 2.602 beta with Junis Black & White Theme
Using the latest Qtek rom with the cache tweak and some other tweaks.

I'm running the O2 XDA Mini S ROM released this week.

After start-up I have around 21 MB free program memory, but I seem to have a memory leak somewhere - after a while it is constantly dropping. When it reaches less than 15 MB I usually free up some RAM with SKTools or do a softreset - very annoying... :evil:
I have quite a lot of programs installed - usually running are:
Today plugins:
SPB PocketPlus + Weather + GPRSMonitor + Diary
KabuToday
Egress
Other software:
PMRecorder
SmartFilter
Always suspecting the SPB stuff to be so memory consuming... :?:
Anybody else with all the SPB plugins??
EDIT: just installed the newest version of SPB PocketPlus - according to the version history they fixed a memory leak - really seems to be a bit better now...

I got the same setup before - all SPB products and they sucked memory and was often very bugridden.
Now I have converted to SBSH products and are never going back to a SPB product except their backup application.
Nothing can beat Amit and the incredible guys over at SBSH products with their incredible customer support with frequent updates and new features
DoctorT said:
After start-up I have around 21 MB free program memory, but I seam to have memory leak somewhere - after a while it is constantly dropping. When it reaches less than 15 MB I usually free up some RAM with SKTools or do a softreset - very annoying... :evil:
I have quite a lot of programs installed - usually running are:
Today plugins:
SPB PocketPlus + Weather + GPRSMonitor + Diary
KabuToday
Egress
Other software:
PMRecorder
SmartFilter
Always suspecting the SPB stuff to be so memory consuming... :?:
Anybody else with all the SPB plugins??
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easycure1974 said:
Nothing can beat Amit and the incredible guys over at SBSH products with their incredible customer support with frequent updates and new features
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For the most part I do agree with that statement. However, when it comes to a Today Launcher, Pocket Plus is more polished than iLauncher. I am a registered owner of both products. Even moving the cursor using the d-pad lags from icon to icon on iLaunch where on Pocket Plus, cursor movement is fluid. Other little things like a more convienient icon selection panel, built in power off and reset buttons make PP my choice over iLauncher.
As for other comparable products, the SBSH products are just head and shoulders about the spb offerings.

Right at this moment ive got 23MB free, running a bunch of today plugins (traylaunch, recso, phonalarm, cpu graph) and also text messaging, activesync, comm manager, contacts.

18 MB Program Memory Free:
Currently Running:
Spb Pocket Plus 3.1.1
Spb Folders ( Plugin for Pocket Plus )
Pocket Breeze 5.0.12.2
Agenda Fusion 7
Photo Contacts PRO 4
Pocket Controller Professional
TodayTime
Tmail ( which is the SMS Part that I never close )
Active Sync
When TomTom 5.21 is running it drops down to 14 MB of Free Memory.

DREAMBOXER said:
18 MB Program Memory Free:
Currently Running:
Spb Pocket Plus
Spb Folders ( Plugin for Pocket Plus )
Agenda Fusion
Photo Contacts PRO
Pocket Controller Professional
TodayTime
Tmail ( which is the SMS Part that I never close )
Active Sync
When TomTom 5.21 is running it drops down to 14 MB of Free Memory.
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You don't have any memory leak?
How often r u guys doing a soft reset??

DoctorT said:
DREAMBOXER said:
18 MB Program Memory Free:
You don't have any memory leak?
How often r u guys doing a soft reset??
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I actually forgot one Tool -> Pocket Breeze 5 8)
Hmm I actually don't know how many times I do a soft reset. I usually do a complete Backup about every 3 days with SpriteBackup and before it it creates a backup it does a soft reset automatically.
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I have 15 MB left but I would like 64 MB Free initially
I have 15 MB left and running:
Cash Organizer
Skype
Active sync
Resco Explorer
MobiPocket Reader
Messaging (Email)
Internet Explorer
TomTom Navigator 5
Contacts
To feel Happy I would like 64 MB free with nothing running.

Forgot to add about soft reset
I soft reset about once a month. When I do that I have 27 MB free. When I run (more or less) the above applications it goes down to 15 MB free. If I close all of them I go up to about 17 MB. If I run them again, they don't seem to take extra memory (Yes i clsoed them from the task manager), and it stays at 17 MB free until I run TomTom which it drops to 15 MB free and it stays there.
Hope this helps.

edsub, i normaly have 24mb free when i soft reset...but whenever i close a program i always make sure i go to the meory settings and close it properly....i havent upgarded roms etc I've installed stuff like spb today plug in..after running a few apps my memory goes down to 19mb..watching a full length movie drops my ram to 18mb min

Re: Forgot to add about soft reset
redjupiter said:
I soft reset about once a month.
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Once a month? I find this very difficult to believe. You must not use many applications and the apps you do use must be very well behaved when it comes to memory. It's just a known fact that many applications do not release memory to the original amount before the program was run and if you run multiple apps it just compounds the issue. Heck, just open up IE a couple of times and see how much memory it eats up. Sync up a couple times and see how much memory Activesync chews up.
I have owned PPC's since 2000 and I have never been able to get away with not having to soft reset for that long of time. Not even close.
After a soft reset I am around 18-19mb free. That's with Pocket Plus, SBSH Pocket Breeze/Contact Breeze, Pocket Weather, SmartsKey, GSPocketMagic, OMAPClock, and MS Voice Command.
After a day of running IE, syncing, running PocketPlayer, Avantgo, misc other apps, I am down to 12mb of ram. I usually soft reset every couple of days sometime everyday depending if I am running a beta of some application.

Dopod 838Pro - Is my memory normal?

Is my memory normal? Seems like pretty low. I have uninstalled the pre-installed games from the system
Currently installed in main memory - Pocketplus, Blackberry Connect, WebIS toolbox, ClearNotify, MemMaid, WorldCard Mobile, Oxios Memory, Photo Contact Pro, VSOFTCODE Calling Card, Cyberon VoiceCommander, Aidem MP3 Player.
My available memory:
Storage : Total - 56.22MB, Used - 38.14MB, FREE - 18.08MB
Program : Total - 49.08MB, Used - 35.72MB, FREE - 13.36MB
I am thinking to get the SPB Diary, PhoneAlarm, Skype, IM+, Opera Browser, RESCO Explorer and possible email software into the main memory......can it still take it?