WM5, Vario and Memory management - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

Hi
Hope you can help me. I've had my Vario for a few weeks now, but i'm concerned about the way the memory is managed. I know about WM5 and the memory thing, but still I can't make sense of this:
Looking at my memory status, I've got 15.94 MB free on the storage memory, and only 2.39MB free on the programme side.
Currently running applications include:
pocket informant
and that's it!
i installed AvantGo, Pocket informant, Egress RSS reader, Phm registry editor, mortPlayer, O2Plus, total Commander, Spb GPRS, Clear Notify, real one, psShutXp and A-Z pock3et viewer. Some of these apps are installed on my storage card, and none of these are currently running, with the exception of a couple of today plugins.
How on earth can I go down to 2.39MB free programme memory ?
What would you advise to increase it?
I tried earlier to install AvantGo on the storage card, but it was not a success, as the system seems to shut power to the storage card occasionally (once a week?), leading to the miniSD being renamed storageCard2 when it restores power and access to it -which means shortcuts to programmes installed on the card are disabled unless you soft-reset the device.
Am I doing anything wrong? How can I increase my free programme memory?

Put it like this, applications installed on the memory card or in unlocked extendedROM's still seem to deplete storage on device. For example I put SPB pocket plus in my Extended ROM folder and then decided to delete it, as it remioved itselef, Storage went up by 1 meg. It wasn't even supposed to be in Storage so there is obviously 'cross contaminaton' of files to make certain progs work. You can run GPRS SPB from Storage cards tho. On my device I have MS Voice command 1.5, SPB GPRS monitor, HFR Switch programme, Wififofum, Resco Explorer,Tweaks 2K,Mort Player, a different dialpad skin,an Ext Rom unlocker, Pocket TV and a Draughts (checkers) game. I have 22.2 in Program Memory and 41.3 in Storage. The only other thing I don't have that you might have is some of the T-Mobile plugins and customisation and I don't have the PDF viewer.

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Best Day to Day Applications to Use

hi, i am new to pocket pc in general.
could you guys that's been using your pda's please let me know what applications you guys recommend having on the pocket pc for my day to day usage. I have a Qtec S100 with 64Mb Memory.
For this I mean additional apps to download and install, but also apps that comes with pocket pc 2003 2nd edition that you recommend.
could you also state where you get these apps from.. i.e. download sites.
regards
bushmen
I pray that you days are much better than mine But here are some items.
I use Pocket Breeze to display appts and tasks on my Today screen.
I use PocketInformant to manage my calendar, etc as it find it offers much more than the built-in apps.
PocketZenPhone for different profiles (adjusts the sounds, screen, etc) by selecting an icon, or by Outlook calendar or even just by time.
ListPro. It is a list program on some major steriods. It is more a cross between a list program and a database. It is quite flexible, so I use it to keep track of things from a shopping list, to vehicle maintenance to PPC tips and software keys.
thanks harleyxlc,
this information is really valueble to me since I don't know anything about pda apps.
cheers
bushmen
My apps on S100
http://www.thedvdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=378063
On my S100 (clone of M500):
WisBar (or my preference, SmallMenuPlus) for task management
SpriteBackup for backups. Memaid for memory cleanup
PocketMusic or Mort Player for music
TextMaker for wordprocessing
Games - BustEm2, Flux, MorphGear emulator, SimCity, SprintRG, VectorBlaster, Elite
Films - BetaPlayer and Pocket TV listings
Art - PocketArtist and Resco Picture Viewer
Sound - Resco Sound Explorer (MP3 recording/dictaphone)
Internet - MultiIE (improves Internet Explorer), Newsbreak reader, PTVNCHi for VNC (using desktop over wireless)
Reference - Britanica or Columbia Encylcopedia, iSilo (I find it's the best ebook reader if you make your own - it rips a whole website and packs it down), Repligo (like PDF but more efficient), TomeRaider 3, and WordBook dictionary
Input - Calligrapher, JogButton, TouchKeyboard, Typango, BlimKeys
Systools- CETuner, Kilmist Regedit, Tweaks2k2.net, GSFinder (ESSENTIAL, get this first), Cabinst (likewise essential), PHM Tools (all are useful)
Travel - Rough Guide to London and Visual IT Tube (free at the mo because of bombs)
Phone - unforunately most diallers etc are very poor. the built in Intellidialer is about the best, but not great. See D9 dialler for an alternative. Also, you MUST install mamaich's dialler hack from http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=11120 to get some use out of the built in dialler (see towards the end of that thread for latest version).
I use buttonmax to redfine all my keys. It's not perfect, but best of the button definers. Also, use AE Button Plus to redefine your Volume Up/Down keys to Up/Down).
So set up is
SmallMenuPlus to change StartButton and for task management etc.
ButtonMax allows me to pop this up with the camera button.
AE ButtonPlus allows me to use vol up/down to navigate the menu.
TIP - if you don't have an external SD writer, get one. About £3 from ebuyer or ebay.
Then get a FAST 1gb card - i got mine from Moby Memory. Then you can "backup" 800mb divx films on to your SD card in about a minute; makes music and films very enjoyable on the go.
If you don't have a writer, get one. Then apply the Extended Rom Hack on XDA developers to get a fre 27mb of "storage" space on your phone.
Tip - install all programs onto "Storage Card" or "storage" to keep your phone efficient and fast. Use cabinst for this.
Registry hacks - see XDA developers forum.
PM me if you need any help.
Vijay
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day to day apps for a pocket pc
hi vijay,
thanks man.. quite a bit of information there which i will definately look at.
i have a couple of questions for you
1. where can i get hold of these apps
2. if i install them, then do rom upgrade
am i right in saying, all will be lost ?
if so, is there a way to back them up to restore them once youv'e
upgraded the pocket pc.
regards and thanks for your help.
Sprite Backup is in the list.
day to day apps
fantastic..
where can i find all these wonderfull applications then?
bushmen
Re: day to day apps
bushmen said:
fantastic..
where can i find all these wonderfull applications then?
bushmen
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How about using Google?
Here one of my day to day apps:
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=17426
And else I use this:
Iliumsoft eWallet for storing secret numbers...
MetrO for public transport http://surf.to/metro
Collins Dictionary English-German
SPB Pocket Plus as swiss army knife...
SPB GPRS Monitor
SBSH PocketWeather
Tomtom Navigator 5
Mort's Mortplayer for MP3 playback
Andreas Lachner Mobile Golf Scorer
Landware OmniSolve as calculator
Regards
Mundl
I've got a 1gb card, and the extended rom hack.
Day to day I've got about 200mb of program files installed on the Card, 1 film ("Primer") and 2 episodes of Futarama.
My Storage (extended rom) is used to hold any apps that will use the internet. I can spop out my 1gb card and put in the ebuyer Wifi card when i want to go online, and still have access to those apps. I shrink my "storage" space down to about 9mb to give my PocketPC as much memory as possible "control > system >memory"
On my 1gb card I've got about 20mb of free space. Every so often I use sprite backup to do a backup of my PPC and Storage space. I make this an executable file, so that God forbid I hard reset, the whole thing can be restored on the go without any additional software.
Every so often I make a backup of my 1gb card onto my PC desktop, so God forbid I lose my phone, I've still got everything backed up.
This routine is very easy, and works for me (takes 3minutes per backup). I won't preach, but man it took a long time to get my PPC working to my taste. I haven't had a PPC since the original IPAQ (which the GF still uses for bubblets!). Since then I've had SPV, SPV E100, Sony P900 and finally the Magician. I like the magician, but it needs to be more 1 handed.
I tried sooo many programs before settling on this set; I've hacked the registry and written my own Today plugin for measuring temperature, day/date, count audio notes and notes saved on Storage Card and PPC.
I use SmallMenu Plus to replace my start menu and task manager, and I use ProgramMenu assigned to my contacts button to bring up essential phone apps - so I can use the phone with one thumb comfortably to do essential stuff (programmenu) , and one hand slightly less comfortably to bring up smallmenu/taskmanagement etc. It sounds complicated but it's near perfect in operation, finally.
Hence - I backup regularly! It took so long to get the PPC working spiffy, I don't want to FUBAR it!
V
PS I also use 1-pass to lock my PPC every 15 minutes. I've resource edited the program to use my own background, so everything works with my very simple theme. I'll post screenshots some time...
How did you make your backup and exeacutable?
Sprite Backup > Options > General Backup Options > Create Self-restoring backup files.
V
duh lol i looked over that thankz alot for pointing that out
day to day apps
hi,
thanks for all the people that have posted what they're using. I will definately look through the lists and see what i can come up with.
i am currently struggeling with my latest 2gb sd card from ADATA. I can not get my pocket pc to recognise the card.... getting sooo frustrated.
as soon as i can get that working, i can upgrade the rom.. install apps and run the hacks....
if anyone else has more to post on these topics, please do so.
take care
bushmen

experiences with third party soft in a SD

Due to the amount of issues with memory, I decided to hard reset my JASJAR and rebuilt all third party soft into a SD.
Following the hard reset I removed skype (because doesn't work), the backgammon game, and the CA AV. Gained 7mb of memory.
I'm using a standard SD 128 (by the way, I'm planning to buy an SD of 1gb, but I don't know what speed I should buy to best performance, i.e. 66x, 80x, 120x or 150x. What do you recommend?)
For your reference, I have installed the following third party soft in the SD and seems to be working OK
- resco explorer 2005 v5.22 (the today cab plug-in I installed it on the device_storage, all the rest of the SD_storage).
- WebIS Pocket Informant 2005 rev 4
- GSPlayer v2.22
Last question, anybody noticed severe battery drain following a installation of any program? I ask it because I saw somewhere and I can't find it anymore that some of the programs could cause it.
regards.

program memory keeps filling up

i am having a problem with my O2 exec, i have the latest rom update and i am running pocket weather and batti monitor. After normal use of my pda the program memory will drop from 20ish to about 6.
This is causing some programs to crash and is annoying me, i am closing all running programs in program manager but this dosn't seem to help.
Is there any way to free up program memory without reseting?
Cheers, James.
Try Oxios Memory: http://www.oxios.com/memory/
It is free and works great for the Universal. I also have SPB Backup installed and set to do automatic backups at 5 AM everyday followed by a automatic soft reset. This assures me my data is safe and I wouldn't run out of memory for the day. Just a suggestion on my part.
Which version of Pocket Weather are you using? I heard the earlier versions caused a memory leak with some of the ROMs. You should try uninstalling Pocket Weather for a week or so and see if that helps.

Apps install to device or to miniSD

I have G3 T-Mobile MDA (Wizard), running Wm5 custom ROM from Xelencin and latest Radio ROM.
Also I have installed
SPB Diary, Pocket Plus, Weather, Imageer, Backup
Resco File Explorer
PhotoDialer Plug-in - memory
WM5Storage - memory
MemMaid - memory
Some RSS Reader
iGuidance
MS VoiceCommand 1.5
IMPlus, Skype
Yahoo 2 Go, Google Maps, Live Search
TCPMP
etc
most of these apps were installed on 2GB miniSD. Everything works.
Question is ... from this list what you would recommend to install to memory, and what - to miniSD ?
My rule of thumb: Will your device boot, and all today items, skinning programs, etc work WITHOUT the MiniSD card? If so, then you have set it up correctly. If you unplug your MiniSD card, and restart your device, will any auto-startup items fail? If so, I would move those to main memory.
bogdatov said:
SPB Diary, Pocket Plus, Weather, Imageer, Backup
Resco File Explorer
PhotoDialer Plug-in
WM5Storage
MemMaid
Some RSS Reader
iGuidance
MS VoiceCommand 1.5
IMPlus, Skype
Yahoo 2 Go, Google Maps, Live Search
TCPMP
etc
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XXXXX memory!
XXXXX memory if you use it often or use autostart / today parts
XXXXX doesn't really matter but will run faster if in memory

usual amount of free RAM

Hi All,
What would you say was a reasonable amount of free RAM to have with a WM5 Wizard, assuming you'd already installed the standard stuff like smartskey, tomtom, reg hacks, palm messaging etc etc?
Mine's on about 9.5MB free which seems very low, and it's causing GPS Tuner to fail to launch.
I'm debating a hard reset and reinstall and wanted to canvas opinions...
landwomble said:
Hi All,
What would you say was a reasonable amount of free RAM to have with a WM5 Wizard, assuming you'd already installed the standard stuff like smartskey, tomtom, reg hacks, palm messaging etc etc?
Mine's on about 9.5MB free which seems very low, and it's causing GPS Tuner to fail to launch.
I'm debating a hard reset and reinstall and wanted to canvas opinions...
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Are you taking about program RAM ( I have about 25M Free) or Device RAM ( I have about 19M Free)? If your taking about device RAM (where you install programs) I would uninstall them and any program that does not have a today plug-in associated with it, I would install it on my mini SD Card, if it does have a today plug-in associated with it, I would install that on the device. Also, you can go into your mail attachments stored on your SD Card as well as your temp internet files. If you are speaking about program memory, well, I would suggest Faria’s WM5 3.3 ROM!

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