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Built-in mic & Headphones

There is a way to enable the built-in mic with an audio cable (made by myself) connected to my jam?
When i make a call in my car, i can ear the speaker trought car hifi, but i can't speak because the mic is disabled

You would need a 2.5mm, 4-pole jack and by follow the wiring as shown in the schematic attached, courtesy of a member (unfortunately I can't remember who). I've downloaded this a long time ago. I made a contraption using this guide when I had a generic PDA holder.
Now I now have a Seidio GM2500 car kit (Christmas gift). The advantages I get with this car kit are;
1. Two sound output jacks; 1 in stereo for connecting directly to the car sound system, and the other jack is mono + mic. The kit actually come with a mono headset+mic and a stand-alone mic.
2. Built-in speaker (though not loud enough especially when driving a diesel engine car at high speeds in the German autobahns while listening to CDs or radio and not connected to car sound system.
3. A power output for charging another component like my TT BT GPS receiver.

Here is my work (PPC Holder included) :
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I have made a 2,5 (4 contacts) -> 3,5 (3 contats) cable, i have tried to carry out from 2,5mm jack a cable with a mic, but i need a new mic, because i have tried to recycle an old one, but it has 3 contacts and i have done many tests but with no results ...does the mic have the mass contact?

I suppose by "mass contact" you mean the grounding. Yes it does have. I'm puzzled why the mic that you tried to recycle has 3 contacts, was this a mic with an answer button? If yes then you'll have to find out which wire it is and short it out that it always stays on.

Ok, sorry 4 my english.... mass=ground.
The mic has a button to answer/call, but i want to exclude it (and now thanx to you i know how do it).
Then if the mic has the ground contact it goes with the ground of L and R audio, am i right?

yep! and good luck with your project

if U use a 3-pole jack, the built-in mic should still working.
For me, I use a 3-pole 2.5 to 3.5mm adapter and connect my Jam to the car stereo, and the jam built-in mic still able to pick up my voice.

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Yeah! Thanx! this is the thing that i wasn't unable to do when i have opened this post.
sorry 4 my expression
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hemmm... it's impossible!!... this is the scheme:
1. Left
2. Right
3. Mic
4. Ground
(the ground is near the cable)
Which PPC do U have?

This thread seems relevant to my interests.
I have an orange m500, and it seems orange have messed with the audio jack somehow.
I have only found one 2.5mm to 3.5mm adaptor (a generic one from a local hobby shop, only 3-core) that will give me sound in both ears, the vast majority are a millimetre or two (hard to judge) too short to fill the jack in my phone.
Is it broken somehow, and I should get it replaced, or are orange just lame? This is pretty frustrating, you know?

Car Mount With Power And Audio?

Here's the deal...I bought a car mount when I bought my XV6800, so I can use it in the car with GPS, however, the audio also come sout of the GPS port, so if I want to listen to music thru my car stero (that has an aux input), I have to use this adapter - LINK...
...of course, then I cannot be charging it while using that adaptor, plus the PDA cannot mount with the audio cable coming out the bottom. so, that is my problem...
Is there a car mount that has a USB extension maybe so that I can have it mounted and charging with ALSO able to run my audio to the aux heaphone (1/8th inch) jack?.
THANKS!
-connor

your 6800 should have come with the USB splitter...
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you can get one under the accessories section of the verizon site, though, at $20, you are probably better off looking somewhere else.
what type of car mount did you get? do you have a link for it?

The Seidio G4700X has audio out jack... You can read the specs here....
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=881

Holy Cow! 80 dollars for a mount?? my xv6800 was only 110, lol. my current power-only mount was only 10 dollars...jeez
thanks for the site though. they seem to have lots of accesories.
-connor

Ghetto Fabulous
Here is what I concocted that works well for me and I spent very little. Some of you may already have most of this.
Features: Charging station, hands-free, mp3 and call output to car stereo, very convenient position for thumb use in portrait or typing in landscape while driving (watch out), horizontal circumferential adjustment as well as vertical adjustment for bad lighting (good for passenger to watch alone).
Drawbacks: phone's mic doesn't work with 3in1 connected; you need to use headset mic (but could be spliced, extended and mounted in side column in car panel), wires can be cumbersome, extends a bit of tension on some connections if you change plugs alot.
I purchased six things:
1. ($15) HTC 3in1 11pin to 10 pin charger/11 pin headset/3.5mm adapter... which you can buy here:
http://store.wmexperts.com/htc-3-in...m=shopping_engine&utm_campaign=GoogleProducts
2. ($7) Retractable 10 pin miniusb to USB2 adapter, something like this:
http://www.provantage.com/belkin-f3u138v03-rtc~7BELC16A.htm
3. ($6) Monster audio cassette adapter:
http://www.thebestsupply.com/MONSTER_3_5mm_iPod_Cassette_Tape_Adapter_p/pcs-ipodcassette.htm
4. ($8) USB2 to cigarette adapter:
http://www.digitlook.com/ILUV-I109BLK-DC-CIGARETTE-LIGHTER-ADAPTER-WITH-USB-OUTPUT_p_2701-22035.html
5. ($6) HTC Mogul/XV6800 Snap-on case with swivel belt clip:
http://cgi.ebay.com/BLACK-SNAP-ON-C...ryZ20336QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
6. ($3) Vent mounted cup holder from Autozone. Mine is mesh and a little better than others I have seen, but nothing elegant by far.
Total of $45 total and you can use much of these things for many other things, especially the retractable and the headset.
Take the cupholder and put it in the vent nearest your right side of the steering wheel. Clip on the back of the Titan hard case with the belt clip on the side of the cupholder. Your phone will be snug to fit so you may want to sand down some of the little tips but only a hair so you can slide the phone out but not so much it falls out.
The retractable usbmini goes to cigarette lighter, 3.5 mm goes out to the monster tape, and the headset goes in the 10 pin spot on the 3in1. All of that plugs into the Titan. Then put the phone in the cradle and it can swivel 90 degrees either way and stay in that position. You can swivel around the circumference of the cup holder, tilt it up and down with the prop style adjuster, and best of all you can rock it 90 degrees and open it up to type in landscape while still connected to the tether. I speak into the headset mic and voila. You could splice the mic wire and run it through your car colums and set it in the post to the left of the driver pretty easily but this is no high end fix like the Seido.
I will post some better pictures when I have access to a camera tomorrow, this was taken on the Titan.

Ghetto Fabulous
Reserved for photo.

I dont get it...what's the difference?
G4300X:
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=890
G4700X:
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=881
thanks,
-Connor
p.s. - Oh yeah, and what does this mean... "*NOTE: This G4300x is not compatible with the bluetooth headset or vehicle intergrated bluetooth system, if you have the most recent firmware update, if you are planing to use bluetooth headsets or bluetooth system please consider about the G4300s model." - I mean, I have a motorola Bluetooth earbud, will that still work? I mean it communicates with the phone, not the holder.

N715DP said:
your 6800 should have come with the USB splitter
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BTW - when you're able to get a mint condition 6800 for $80 shipped, it doesn't come with anything, lol.

I have had them both. If you want to use bluetooth at all, either for a2dp or earbud, you have to use the 4300x. Since the 4700x has audio out, the phone detects it as if a wired headset is connected, and disables bluetooth. If I understand correctly, the 4300x lacks the circuitry for audio out, so the phone just thinks it has a charger attached, and bluetooth works fine. I use the 4300 with a dual xhd6425 bt enabled car stereo. Sounds pretty good, although there are some reg tweaks you need to do. My 4700 is at seidio now being repaired because it wouldn't output in stereo for some reason. When I get it back, it will go on ebay. Why did I have two in the first place? Long story, mostly involving learning the hard way about the bluetooth issue. PLus the 4700 was part of a package of things I bought from somebody who got rid of their mogul.
This is my third seidio mount (6600, 6700, 6800), I have been very happy with them. Support has been great. They are pricy, but anything else involves cables laying all over the car, and you can always recover most of the cost on ebay if you are a frequent phone upgrader.
I will comment on the cassette adapter, which I used up until the bluetooth setup. I had it attached to a GM factory stereo, and never sounded all that great, plus I always had to crank the volume down one notch on the phone (all 3 of them), or I got horrible static. A2dp is not perfect, there is still a bit of background noise, but it is definitely crisper than the cassette adapter ever was. A lot of variables there though, maybe my stereo just sucked.

i have an AUX input (1/8th inch jack) on the front of my car CD player. I wasnt going to use it for music from my 6800 since my car CD player already can play MP#/WMA CDs, so I was just going to use it for tomtom volume, system volume, etc...
thanks anyway

I have to second the issue on having to crank the volume when hooked to stero with aux jack...basically have to max out the volume on deck to get it cranking...but didnt really hear a quality difference...audiopara helped a little with the sound level though

The RC-E100 headset NOT WORKING combined with the YC-A300 connector.

Hey guys,
I've been bashing my head over this why it isnt working:
Connecting the RC-E100 headset through the YC-A300 and making the buttons on the RC-E100 headset work. (it does work if I directly connect it to my Touch Pro)
Installing the drivers didnt help, and I googled a bit and didnt find any solutions.
I read something at the Touch HD forum that the RC-E100 not working due to hardware reasons.
I thought that was the same for the YC-A300, but as I quote:
Daarnaast is de YC A300 voorzien van een HTC ExtUSB standard headset-connector en een mini-USB-poort.
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The YC-A300 has a HTC ExtUSB standard headset connector.
If it is STANDARD, why on earth is the RC-E100 not working?
Allready mailed HTC about it, just checking if anyone else has issues with this.
Oh and the reason I want it to work:
In my car I have an aux-in.
-Powering via universal USB carcharger
-Audio through the 3.5mm jack plugin
-WANTED to use my RC-E100 headset as a handsfree one (connecting the aux-in cable 3.5mm-3.5mm directly via the RC-E100 headset doesnt help)

komani86 said:
I've been bashing my head over this why it isnt working:
Connecting the RC-E100 headset through the YC-A300 and making the buttons on the RC-E100 headset work. (it does work if I directly connect it to my Touch Pro)
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Hello,
I have the same problem. I've noticed that when I connect the YC-A300 to the phone, then connect the RC-E100 to YC-A300, then unplug the earphones' jack from the RC-E100, plug it directly to the YC-A300 for a moment and then back to the RC-E100, the earphones start to work. But keys and mic still don't
BTW, did you get any reply from HTC?

i don't remember where i read it but that's how it was designed. it isn't a problem, the RC simply wasn't made to run through the YC-A300. really no way around that.
if you wanted to use it for a hands-free device for the car, wouldn't the YC-A300 work fine? 3.5mm plug into aux-in which allows you to hear calls through car stereo and the mic on the phone should be good enough. maybe turn on the mic agc.

I think he means that he wants to clip the RC-E100 on to the seatbelt so that he can switch songs without reaching out for the phone. So the other possibility would be some kind of a bluetooth remote control.

i have the same problem , RC E100 not works through Yc A300 , i use a 2.5 mm wired ear phone with built in mic , it works ok.
i think the problem is that YC A300 audio jack not maps all pins used by RC E100 , and so i think there is no solution.

A headache problem! In China,it's called "鱼和熊掌不可兼得".

PCB
I've found a PCB picture of the YC-A300.
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Indeed it looks like not all the pins are connected

FM Transmitter

i have a friend who has the nokia 97 and he showed me an app where he can use the phone as an FM transmitter, kind of like an ipod. Is it possible for the TP2 to do that? im thinking not because he antenna for the radio is in the headphones and not the phone itself like the nokia, but could we develop an app that can make the TP2 have an FM transmitter with the headphones plugged in to access radio?
I think it could make for a great and useful app.

skky91 said:
i have a friend who has the nokia 97 and he showed me an app where he can use the phone as an FM transmitter, kind of like an ipod. Is it possible for the TP2 to do that? im thinking not because he antenna for the radio is in the headphones and not the phone itself like the nokia, but could we develop an app that can make the TP2 have an FM transmitter with the headphones plugged in to access radio?
I think it could make for a great and useful app.
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The hardware needed to make it an Fm transmitter is not in the Tp2 and so this is not possible. Ive seen plug in devices that transmit whatever comes out of the headphone socket so this would be your only option i think.

i already use such a transmitter for my TP2.
but it isn't useful.
the transmitter need his own power supply and the TP2 will not be charge while the transmitter is pluged in....
Mic is crap, for talking inside the car very bad.
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damn =(, this would have been great to have. Thanks guys

pimpmyfriedl said:
i already use such a transmitter for my TP2.
but it isn't useful.
the transmitter need his own power supply and the TP2 will not be charge while the transmitter is pluged in....
Mic is crap, for talking inside the car very bad.
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Im using the exact same thing for my car
Good enough for listening to music on my phone...maybe that's all you want

try a bluetooth a2Dp carkit fm transmitter... wow thats a mouthfull..
Anyway.. search for one of those on ebay. I've used them for years. The unit itself plugs in directly to a power outlet in your car. You use the bluetooth on your phone to transmit stereo audio to the unit which in turn broadcasts the audio to the car stereo. I like this cause.... well no wires. The units also have a "carkit" function so when a call comes in it routes the audio over the stereo too and uses a mic built in that you speak through. Pretty clear I have to say.
They range anywhere from 15 dollars to 60 dollars on ebay. I went with a lower end one and once this breaks (though I've had it for about 3 or so years now) I'll be going with a more expensive one. I've found, at least with the one I have, that when there is no audio actually being transmitted to the device the sound that is played through the stereo in the car is similar to that of an old fax machine, all be it a lot less annoying and loud. When I first started using it I used to just run a loop of white noise from my phone in windows media player and then use the built in audio player in manilla to play actual music... also really handy when driving and using tomtom or something on the phone. ALSO really handy when listening to pandora or slacker radio
Long story short.. look up A2Dp fm transmitter and you guys will be set!

For just listening to music in the car nothing beats the direct wire connection of a 3.5 mm connection, IMHO. But, if you would like a full featured alternative I'd go with an Alpine X10. It has BT for streaming music and phone calls. Also has a direct Ipod connection, which is it's main use.

I've heard nothing but good reviews from the Motorola T505
http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/t505/

Yeah I use a T505. It works well but is let down by the TP2s bluetooth stack. However music works fine

I've bought several FM Transmitters, not for my Tilt2 but for different cars without AUX input....do yourselves a favor and just get 3.5MM Stereo AUX Inputs if that is the sole purpose of your phone is to listen to music in your cars.... You can get a new radio with aux as cheap as $100-150 installed...
I sold all the FM transmitters i've bought, the only nice ones cost just as much as a radio installed, and you're not getting full sound quality, plus driving out of town sucks when you hit the biggest radio station of that town, just so happens to be the frequency you selected.
If it's for another purpose, my apologies..
p.s., you can mod them up to sound better on some, you can add antenna (just buy small gauge wire or an actual antenna) - search for your unit to see if it can be modded to cover more range.. I ran 12 feet of wiring all around my Honda Civic when I was in the FM Transmitter phase..
Goodluck

[Q] - Microphone when using 3.5mm port

With my Touch Pro2, I was able to plug my phone into the aux port in my car via stereo cable, and I could still use the microphone. It seems that when I plug the Epic in, I get the sound... but the Microphone disables itself? Does anyone know of a way to fix this? I have looked at most settings but can't find anything.

I posted a similar issue about 20 threads down in this forum. My car has an aux and bluetooth for the phone. When aux is in use, the phone decides to disable the built in mic AND it doesn't route the calls over the bluetooth. 2 HUGE oversights in this phones design. Should be a simple software fix, but I'm not a good programmer.

I use my car's bluetooth hands-free which includes audio support (no AUX use required, though music seems to sound better wired). My only issue with this setup is that I cannot use speech recognition; that is to say, the microphonr doesn't wrk when the phone is pairred. I'll keep my eyes on this thread in case someone knows a fix.
Thanks!

Just an FYI, the Samsung Moment does this also. I believe it has something to do with the ability of using wired headsets with mics, so the built-in mic is disabled whenever something is plugged in, even if whatever you plugged in doesn't have a mic.

The Samsung Moment has this same issue, dangit. I was hoping this wouldn't. Is there a fix?

It is a matter of making a small app for the epic only, that over-rides the physical switch. Even better would be an app that detected when headsets were plugged in and it gave you options.
Where is the microphone located? Bluetooth, phone, headset
What would you like to use to listen to phone calls: Bluetooth, phone, headset

So, I was reading on another forum that this "issue" was not an issue on the Moment cj05 update. But turned into an issue on the cj14 update. Hey dev's that may be reading this. What is the possibility of finding the file in the cj05 update and overwriting it onto said file on the epic?

I have this issue as well.

It's definitely an issue with the Epic. When in my car, I'd have my EVO plugged into my Aux jack and could still talk. Not with my Epic. Boo hiss.
Hope it gets fixed... as this is a pretty big feature for me to lose.

I have not discovered a software fix, but this should be a hardware work around. Hands Free 3.5mm Adapter + Microphone, with 3.5mm pass through.
I am sure you could find alternatives if you do not like the one linked below.
http://www.amazon.com/Headset-Adapter-Microphone-iTouch-iPhone/dp/B0034Z5GY8/ref=pd_cp_e_2
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Pops_G said:
I have not discovered a software fix, but this should be a hardware work around. Hands Free 3.5mm Adapter + Microphone, with 3.5mm pass through.
I am sure you could find alternatives if you do not like the one linked below.
http://www.amazon.com/Headset-Adapter-Microphone-iTouch-iPhone/dp/B0034Z5GY8/ref=pd_cp_e_2
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have you tested this? does it work?

So I found something out.
As described before, when the phone is plugged into an AUX port in a car using a 3.5mm cable the microphone is disabled when you get a call.
However I found out that it is not disabled at all times. Even while the phone is connected to the AUX port. I tested using google voice search while playing music via AUX. I also tested using EverNote to record a note with an active call in the back ground.
Point is the microphone is NOT disabled, the phone app simply ignores it. Perhaps using a different phone app other than the one included would resolve this issue. At least its a software issue and not a hardware problem.

hydralisk said:
have you tested this? does it work?
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No I have not tested it. However I know the included headset with a microphone built into the cable work. Seems logical that it would work.

Pops_G said:
So I found something out.
As described before, when the phone is plugged into an AUX port in a car using a 3.5mm cable the microphone is disabled when you get a call.
However I found out that it is not disabled at all times. Even while the phone is connected to the AUX port. I tested using google voice search while playing music via AUX. I also tested using EverNote to record a note with an active call in the back ground.
Point is the microphone is NOT disabled, the phone app simply ignores it. Perhaps using a different phone app other than the one included would resolve this issue. At least its a software issue and not a hardware problem.
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How does one install another phone app? I didn't find any in the market.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

I found one named "Dialer One" but I have not had a chance to test it yet. I will try after work.

Pops_G said:
I found one named "Dialer One" but I have not had a chance to test it yet. I will try after work.
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I tested and the app does not replace the default dialer. It might not be possible to replace it without a new rom.

I have problem using the supplied wired headset. When placing a phone call,I can hear the other person,but they cannot hear me.I returned my first Epic. The second one has the same problem. THIS is a hardware isue. i tried using bluetooth headset, no problem. Only happens when using the 3.5mm port.

ckgan said:
I have problem using the supplied wired headset. When placing a phone call,I can hear the other person,but they cannot hear me.I returned my first Epic. The second one has the same problem. THIS is a hardware isue. i tried using bluetooth headset, no problem. Only happens when using the 3.5mm port.
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Actually, what you described sounds like a software issue. Considering the moment does the same thing after the c14 update and not before also points to a software issue.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

ckgan said:
I have problem using the supplied wired headset. When placing a phone call,I can hear the other person,but they cannot hear me.I returned my first Epic. The second one has the same problem. THIS is a hardware isue. i tried using bluetooth headset, no problem. Only happens when using the 3.5mm port.
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Please read my posts above. It is a software issue. The microphone will still work...in other applications. It is only the phone app/dialer that mutes it.
I cannot fathom how Samsung would allow this, they include a Headset/Microphone combo with the phone, that does not work for making calls. That is like including a spoon with a hole in it with a bowl of soup.
Again it's definitely a software problem. Best way to get it fixed it to flood tech support with the problem till they are aware of it and issue a fix.

I read somewhere that if you use sasmung branded ones it works..but I have not confirmed it...