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A good and free task manager-closer

InClose Mobile Express Edition
http://insoftwarehouse.com/desktop/products/index.php?l=en
WM5 and Wizard compatible

I have used it, a bit slow to respond when calling up the menu. Install size is about 2MB, something to consider.

I still think MagicButton may have the 'right' method altogether.. but that's all personal taste, really. It's free, doesn't take up much space, works beautifully, and doesn't seem to come with any 'fluff' (rotate screen? why is that in a task manager? :|)

bgulum said:
InClose Mobile Express Edition
http://insoftwarehouse.com/desktop/products/index.php?l=en
WM5 and Wizard compatible
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ROTFLMAO! 2.2MB of your precious Storage for a lousy task manager? No wonder Windows software gets such a bad name. An In(competent) Software House that considers this reasonable shoud be avoided like the plague!
<Deep Breath, Calming Music>
Try GSPocketmagic++ (Free) - only 59K and gives you an enhanced Start Menu too. Or SmallMenu (Free) / SmallMenuPlus (Almost Free) at 155K.
There, that's better....

xbar3
If you want one handed operation:
http://xetranet.free.fr/xbar2/?lang=eng&project=xBar 2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=182252#182252

InClose looks cute to me.. never tried it though.
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the Cab file is about 876 kbs and it installs around about 350 kbs all together

Ineedtoys said:
bgulum said:
InClose Mobile Express Edition
http://insoftwarehouse.com/desktop/products/index.php?l=en
WM5 and Wizard compatible
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ROTFLMAO! 2.2MB of your precious Storage for a lousy task manager? No wonder Windows software gets such a bad name. An In(competent) Software House that considers this reasonable shoud be avoided like the plague!
<Deep Breath, Calming Music>
Try GSPocketmagic++ (Free) - only 59K and gives you an enhanced Start Menu too. Or SmallMenu (Free) / SmallMenuPlus (Almost Free) at 155K.
There, that's better....
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InClose Mobile: Frequently Asked Questions:
http://insoftwarehouse.com/desktop/products/inclose/faq.php?l=en#q03
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Size of InClose Mobile 5.0 Express Edition setup files seem overlarge than other Pocket PC Applications. Why?
Because they contain brand new system files which are related to MFC 8.0 Mini and ATL 8.0 and they take possession of 1.16 MB. If the devices that will release with Windows Mobile 5.0 contain MFC 8.0 Mini and ATL 8.0 by default, the size of setup files will be reduced remarkably. .................

i realy like it, why? because it hasn't got icon (transparent) so there is no color problem on wm5 devices, with vijay555 okbutton perfect couple i prefer all at one app though

bgulum said:
InClose Mobile: Frequently Asked Questions:
http://insoftwarehouse.com/desktop/products/inclose/faq.php?l=en#q03
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Size of InClose Mobile 5.0 Express Edition setup files seem overlarge than other Pocket PC Applications. Why?
Because they contain brand new system files which are related to MFC 8.0 Mini and ATL 8.0 and they take possession of 1.16 MB. If the devices that will release with Windows Mobile 5.0 contain MFC 8.0 Mini and ATL 8.0 by default, the size of setup files will be reduced remarkably. .................
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Well maybe they need to fix their install script then. On my Wizard, the WM5 CAB (InClose_XE_EN.ARMV4I_QVGA.v5.CAB, 833K) installs the full 2199K. Even InHouse admit its a pig -
"Size On Device: About 1.1 MB (Except MFC 8.0 and ATL 8.0 Binaries)"
Even if I could get it to install without the extra 1.16MB - what does it do that a 50K program does not? A few pretty tick boxes and menus?
As you would expect, it's slow as well - bringing up the menu (with "tap" set to "Show Menu") take almost 2 seconds on my Wizard. Even Wisbar isn't that slow.
Sorry, but having had another play with it, I stand by my original verdict - everything it offers is done more efficiently by other software with a much smaller footprint, so it's pointless bloat. Why on earth would you want to install a close button that's over twice the size of a full-blown all-formats music player (e.g GSPlayer, 400K)?
Still, I guess that's something we have to contend with in the Windows World of pointy clicky programming* **
*e.g. 2.5MB .NET Compact Framework install just to run the latest WiFoFum? Compact, my a*se
** BTW, that's no disrespect to the good work done here by many, just to the ethos that style is more important than function, and that code efficiencies are irrelevant, as customers will always upgrade their hardware to cope.

Memory Leakage...Spb mobile shell causes this...

After installing MUN_RUS and LVSW roms....
The leakage is even worse them WM05 roms.
i start the day with 23 MB, and after 3 hours of work (push mail and some calls) it narrows down to 13-16 MB....
Anyone else experiencing this?
Nadav

No. I don't experience this. I have my phone on 24/7 and this doesn't happen even after long time of no resets.

Remember these are BETA roms

Unless your device was idle when it happened (which it wasn't), this is memory usage, not memory leakage.

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Unless your device was idle when it happened (which it wasn't), this is memory usage, not memory leakage.
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Yes i understand,
but WM06 is supposed to improve this issue isn't it?
it is even worse then WM05.
Nadavi

That depends on how you look at it. Does WM6 free the memory when it is needed?
For example Vista uses loads of RAM in comparison to XP but that is actually a good thing and intended behaviour. Free RAM = unused RAM = useless RAM.
The only important thing is that applications get enough RAM when they need it.

ZakMcRofl said:
That depends on how you look at it. Does WM6 free the memory when it is needed?
For example Vista uses loads of RAM in comparison to XP but that is actually a good thing and intended behaviour. Free RAM = unused RAM = useless RAM.
The only important thing is that applications get enough RAM when they need it.
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Thats the issue here,
That Pocket pc software doesnt use that much, and doesnt stay resident in memory!
if so, upon closing of the software it should clear out the used memory, i was convinced that in WM06 that think is executed better then WM05.
well it isnt
anyway, about free memory, the device is being up for 13 hours now,
and 11MB free! i can't even run Navigation software.
i've installed
SPB pocket plus
SPB diary
spb mobile shell
spb phone suite
Eyron hebrew support.
Ezdial.
None of thoose are not standart software programs.
What is wrong in WM06?
Nadavi

Windows will not be unloading modules aggressively unless it needs more memory. In other words, if you start a program and then close it, memory usage is likely to change in comparison with what it was before you've started the program. If you run enough programs to really exhaust available memory, it will unload some modules it's not using. One of the reasons it's done is to speed up your program if you restart it...

stepw said:
Windows will not be unloading modules aggressively unless it needs more memory. In other words, if you start a program and then close it, memory usage is likely to change in comparison with what it was before you've started the program. If you run enough programs to really exhaust available memory, it will unload some modules it's not using. One of the reasons it's done is to speed up your program if you restart it...
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I'm using SPB pocket plus to Really close each program being used.
so no software is left open.
but still, with push mail and normal daily usage i got no memory left at the end of the day.
Nadavi

NOT USE SPBsoftware!!!!!

lvsw said:
NOT USE SPBsoftware!!!!!
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ok, they are great softwares! please give me your usage....
What is you rate of memory leakage?
you begin the day with:
and end it with:
which Software installed
Thanks in advance.
Nadavi.

SPB Software only for WM5
If you use this soft on WM6 - memory and system stable PROBLEMS

lvsw said:
SPB Software only for WM5
If you use this soft on WM6 - memory and system stable PROBLEMS
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What apps launcher do you recommend then as an alternative for SPB Pocket Plus??

I'm using SPB Phone Suite and SPB Pocket Plus :\
Almost every software that I know, is for WM5, not for WM6

KamaL said:
What apps launcher do you recommend then as an alternative for SPB Pocket Plus??
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Try iLauncher, but I think that it is for WM5 too Don't know any launcher for WM6

Well, they are for WM5, but most applications are also working properly on WM6.
I've tried iLauncher on WM5, but now i was thinking to try Pocket plus on WM6. The warning of LVSW is making me think twice
Any other recommendations for a good launcher?

I use SPB Mobile shell, SPB Diary and SPB weather...
I had no memory problems with these three when testing either lvsw or mUn ROM.

KamaL said:
Well, they are for WM5, but most applications are also working properly on WM6.
I've tried iLauncher on WM5, but now i was thinking to try Pocket plus on WM6. The warning of LVSW is making me think twice
Any other recommendations for a good launcher?
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I use iLauncher, for me it works well without being too "heavy".

lvsw said:
NOT USE SPBsoftware!!!!!
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Why??
Thanks in advance.
Cheers

alchemax said:
Why??
Thanks in advance.
Cheers
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read the post
lvsw said:
SPB Software only for WM5
If you use this soft on WM6 - memory and system stable PROBLEMS
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applications

Is there a list of apps that are perfectly compatible with the ameo?
I have tried a few apps and utils such as wisbar advance and spb mobile shell but they seem to have side-effects which alter the the ameo's reliability.
I even had an issue where the camera wouldnt load while spb mobile shell was installed.
So if anybody knows what software best compliment the ameo please let me know!

Smartstradamus said:
Is there a list of apps that are perfectly compatible with the ameo?
I have tried a few apps and utils such as wisbar advance and spb mobile shell but they seem to have side-effects which alter the the ameo's reliability.
I even had an issue where the camera wouldnt load while spb mobile shell was installed.
So if anybody knows what software best compliment the ameo please let me know!
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on my side I am happy with the test with Pocket Informant, pocket slides.
Bad expertise with pocket hack master. Times bad expertise with the print software coming with the device, I think is due the wifi is a little special on athena.
Resco explorer last version creates problems -I think is due too much options on network- managing files in other network computers.
Expensepro runs fine, except the problem with the screen if you rotate it.
About hw, I own a jabra bt8010 and no caller id support, I think is a problem of the bluetooth stack that jetware doesn't solve.

Smartstradamus said:
Is there a list of apps that are perfectly compatible with the ameo?
I have tried a few apps and utils such as wisbar advance and spb mobile shell but they seem to have side-effects which alter the the ameo's reliability.
I even had an issue where the camera wouldnt load while spb mobile shell was installed.
So if anybody knows what software best compliment the ameo please let me know!
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I have manage to quite a lot of programs working, yes some have bug and side effect, but there is always a solution to it. Pocket hack master works too. Actually you will find most of the good application out there works fine with Ameo, there is only very small amount that doesn't work

functional applications...
The following is a list of programs that I've installed on my x7500 which haven't yeilded any problems:
- Vito Audio Notes
- CorePlayer
- PocketXMRadio
- SlingPlayer Mobile
- IM+
- pRSSreader
- Sniffi
- WiFiFoFum2
- WM6 Remote Desktop
- Google Maps (just haven't gotten the GPS to work on it)
- Microsoft Live Search
- Pocket Informant
- eWallet
- AE Button Plus
- Check Notifications (I think this caused ActiveSync to stop working so I would caution against installing this)
- Magic Button
- Resco File Explorer/RegistryAddon/FTP Addon
- SmallMenu Plus
- Total Commander
- VGAToggle (buggy aesthetics but no system issues as of yet)
- VJBigPhoner
- Gentimer (just installed and testing still)
Edit #1: Just installed 'HIMILAYA WM2k5 Screen Rotate Fix v1.1' which so far works as expected.
Let me know if you need specific versions for any listed items.

wu5262 said:
I have manage to quite a lot of programs working, yes some have bug and side effect, but there is always a solution to it. Pocket hack master works too. Actually you will find most of the good application out there works fine with Ameo, there is only very small amount that doesn't work
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maybe you made some special thing, maybe related other sw in your athena, with it. In my case extend aditional seconds the startup and frozen it. Tested all the possible configurations of speed and memory.
For me this program doesn't provide any help on speed or performance except nice rings when start -if doesn't frozen-. Previously, in my universal it was great, but not in x7500, but obviously is my case...

beginner said:
maybe you made some special thing, maybe related other sw in your athena, with it. In my case extend aditional seconds the startup and frozen it. Tested all the possible configurations of speed and memory.
For me this program doesn't provide any help on speed or performance except nice rings when start -if doesn't frozen-. Previously, in my universal it was great, but not in x7500, but obviously is my case...
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you must disable internal auto scale.....

wu5262 said:
you must disable internal auto scale.....
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pocket hack master disable automatically all the extensions, did you make it yourself?

beginner said:
pocket hack master disable automatically all the extensions, did you make it yourself?
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no, you just need to go to setting to disable internel scale, pretty simple

wu5262 said:
no, you just need to go to setting to disable internel scale, pretty simple
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mine hasn't that option (or I can't find it). It is htc x7500 and local language. Rom is 1.25.412.2. I think it manages automatically the performance under battery and not needed aditional magmt.

beginner said:
mine hasn't that option (or I can't find it). It is htc x7500 and local language. Rom is 1.25.412.2. I think it manages automatically the performance under battery and not needed aditional magmt.
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i'ts the PHM setting not the device setting.

wu5262 said:
i'ts the PHM setting not the device setting.
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ufff ... thanks. sorry I look stupid.

beginner said:
ufff ... thanks. sorry I look stupid.
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no worry, good luck with your CPU scaling, report back the result pls

ltxda said:
The following is a list of programs that I've installed on my x7500 which haven't yeilded any problems:
- Vito Audio Notes
- CorePlayer
- PocketXMRadio
- SlingPlayer Mobile
- IM+
- pRSSreader
- Sniffi
- WiFiFoFum2
- WM6 Remote Desktop
- Google Maps (just haven't gotten the GPS to work on it)
- Microsoft Live Search
- Pocket Informant
- eWallet
- AE Button Plus
- Check Notifications (I think this caused ActiveSync to stop working so I would caution against installing this)
- Magic Button
- Resco File Explorer/RegistryAddon/FTP Addon
- SmallMenu Plus
- Total Commander
- VGAToggle (buggy aesthetics but no system issues as of yet)
- VJBigPhoner
- Gentimer (just installed and testing still)
Let me know if you need specific versions for any listed items.
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thanks for the replies
Are the apps above all the latest versions?

Smartstradamus said:
thanks for the replies
Are the apps above all the latest versions?
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Don't think so. Let me know if you're interested in knowing the version of any app in particular.

Wifi troubles
I don't know if this is your case but since I replaced the jasjar with HTC I have at home wifi network access problems some times. It navigates by internet without issues but when I try to access to other pc disks shared times it sees and times not.
Some infraestructure -pc, access points, ..., no changes-
with the last version of resco explorer was impossible to share information with other pc, with the previous one is intermitent. And same problem with the software for printing in the network, times see the shared resources and times not.

beginner said:
with the last version of resco explorer was impossible to share information with other pc, with the previous one is intermitent. And same problem with the software for printing in the network, times see the shared resources and times not.
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I'm using Resco Explorer 2005 and having no problems using WLAN shared drive etc (other than it not remembering the password for my NAS but it always did that.)

Phoenix Studio 1.1 works, but you need to make sure you're in portrait mode and exit it before attaching the keyboard, otherwise touchscreen input goes a bit wrong and you'll have to exit the application by starting another one and going to the "Running Programs" panel.
Sounds good, too, with the speakers in the Ameo!
Pocket Commodore Plus4 works quite nicely on it for BASIC, but the emulation drops to cripplingly slow speeds when any input is used - shameful for what should be one of the fastest devices on the market.

help me chose wm 6.1 or wm 6.5

Hello. I need a wm 6.1 or 6.5 to put on my trinity. (p3600) I want to install igo8 and mio v3.3 on it. Can you tell me witch wm i can use? I need space and at least 30mb free ram for installing igo8, mio and any other software. I tried all kins of rom but igo 8.3.2 is not installnig anymore. please help.

WM 6.1, I dont belive that the Trinity has enough RAM to run WM6.5
I use this ROM on my trinity without any issues
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=494727

i'm currently using wm6.5 (i believe TRIN_WM6.5__3_00_707_51__B21232) and it seems pretty stable so far. The only real issue i've had is with the status icon in the top right of screen that shows programs running and mem usage, it's disappeared and the only way i got it back was doing a hard reset, but then it went again. Apart from that all good so far.
I'm using the rom as supplied and have installed no extras apart from TomTom7, which works fine.
I do get a bit of slow down occasionally but it doesn't seem any worse than 6.1 and killing off apps using task manager generally sorts it out.
Hope this helps
Smiffy

I used wm6.5 kitchen in my P3600 , It's work well , finger friendly and beauty menu , but soma time it's hang and some program such garmin not run it and need long time for started. I turn to wm5 orginal , but want to test wm6.1 !
Can U help me to chose light version of Rom wm6.5 or wm6.1 ?

Check my siganture for a decent Ultralite 6.1 ROM. From a fresh install you have the following:
WWE_21014_UltraLite
Storage 74.43Mb
RAM 51.07Mb
Free Storage 71.88Mb
Free RAM 30.95Mb

deedee said:
Check my siganture for a decent Ultralite 6.1 ROM. From a fresh install you have the following:
WWE_21014_UltraLite
Storage 74.43Mb
RAM 51.07Mb
Free Storage 71.88Mb
Free RAM 30.95Mb
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Hi deedee,
Thank you, that was good advice, I had to fix a friend's Trinthy P3600, I took your advice and 21014.1.6.0 ROMs first I tried the full version but then switched to the Medium and it was awesome. From a fresh boot it gave me more then 29MB of RAM, Then I loaded a ton off apps like iGO8, SPB mobile Shell with SPB weather and SPB TV, Mobi Pocket Reader, AE Buttons, StopTime, scientific Calculator and RDP (and I thin I am missing a couple of them) but it is working great.
Very Good Stable and Fast ROM, since it was this post of yours that guided me to that ROM so I owe you tons of Gratitude. And I also owe chanv93 lots of thansk for making such wonderful ROM and putting it out there for dumb noobs like me who are not smart enough to cook their own ROMs.
Good Work chanvi93 and many many Thanks

Register Windows Logo button with another program???

Hi,
is there a way on Windows Mobile 6.5, 6.5.x and WMD, to map the windows logo button (not the hardware key of a device) to another program than honeycomb start nenu??? I have a little program that is named "Folderview" (it seems to be from HTC) that will show up the start menu with big icons like there it is in Windows Mobile 6.x Smartphone Edition.
The background for my question is that i own a PDA E-Ten Glofiish M800 that has only 64 megs of RAM (total free ram after strat is only around 20 megs with honeycomb) and that's too small for using GPS functions with navigation software like igo 8. I tried the tool "Quickmenu" but i don't like it because i do not want to have a start menu like in verisons of Windows Mobile prior 6.5.
Thanks
StefanV3

Hi
A little search brought this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486712

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Hey Stefanv3, try this, its a taskmanager but can also set the start button.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583002
Secc

Hi,
thanks for your tipps. StartButtonHook is the tool i was searching for.
AMeBa doesn't work, don't know what's wrong.
But now i have another Problem. The tool "folderview" does not show up the "settings". Has anyone an idea howto create a link to access "settings"???
Thanks
StefanV3

Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5638427&postcount=4

Hi,
Thank you very much. This is it...
StefanV3