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[PROB] Touch makes ratling noise

Hey there,
My HD makes a resonating / ratling noise when I tap my finger on the camera area at the bakside.
Is someone else experiencing this too?
I tried twisting it a bit, pressing between fingers but it still resonates.
Is this perhaps the G-sensor / accelometer?

I've also noticed that, even with the stylus removed, if you hold the HD in one hand and tap it against you other hand, you can hear something move.
Now that you mention it, I guess it must be the G-sensor!
So.... is it?!

A small rattling is probably the G-sensor, my K850 makes a small noise due to it too.

It's the G Sensor. Give it a shake and you'll hear it carry on for a few seconds with your ear near the phone.

G-sensor? Not likely
I do not think so. G-sensors are solid-state devices: no moving pieces inside.

smunoz said:
I do not think so. G-sensors are solid-state devices: no moving pieces inside.
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Well accelerometer then, it's definately one of the two.

Well, the sensors do have moving parts - but I was fairly sure that those are of microscopic proportions (micromachined silicon).
I would be surprised if it was that.
Perhaps there's a hidden tray inside with a ball-bearing, necessary to run "teeter"

Today the messenger from Vodafone at my house to exchange the HD.
Guess what... the new one made the same noise.
A light resonating noise at the camera area at the back.
The messenger took the new one with him and left me my old one.
Vodafone will get in touch with me he said.
Anybody else experiencing this noise here?

Rattling htc hd
Yes mine does this - I think its the camera.
Take an extreme close up and you will hear the same rattle/click noise as if something drops back in to place following the close up focus...

Rattling noise here too.

fasty said:
Well, the sensors do have moving parts - but I was fairly sure that those are of microscopic proportions (micromachined silicon).
I would be surprised if it was that.
Perhaps there's a hidden tray inside with a ball-bearing, necessary to run "teeter"
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HA, i knew that game seemed too lifelike

It's the 3.5 mm socket for your headphones jack, was bugging me for a while and got to the bottom of it. Insert your earphones/headphones jack, noise goes away..

I think you will find that it will be the lens in the camera. As I am sure you know this is an auto focus camera and of course that will need a moving lense body. G-Sensors and accelerometers are the same thing and indeed solid state, or pretty much anyway. It is not the headphone jack and I must say...if the noise bothers you... just don't tap the camera! Simple!

Please FOR THE SAKE OF GOD does your device also make rattling noise when you tape on the camera cover ?? Please we need to know because this issue is getting annoying !!! Its been a month with HD and now I hear a rattling noise whenever i tap on the upper part of the backcover near the camera. I tried with another HD and IT DOES THE SAME THING
I emailed HTC a week ago about the problem and they responded by saying "The rattling sound shouldn't be any problem" which makes it sound like they know the Touch HD makes the rattling noise
Please could you share your experience here ?! I need to know if I have the right to return it back and ask for replacement. My BlueAngel was as solid as rock

The rattling can be annoying, but I find it's only really noticeable when the phone vibrates.

Radeon123 said:
The rattling can be annoying, but I find it's only really noticeable when the phone vibrates.
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So you can also hear the rattling when u slap the backcover near the camera ? Is it a fault with the design ? Maybe the camera lens ? I can hear a similar sound when i take shots with the cam ( autofocus maybe ).

Xeon said:
So you can also hear the rattling when u slap the backcover near the camera ? Is it a fault with the design ? Maybe the camera lens ? I can hear a similar sound when i take shots with the cam ( autofocus maybe ).
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I do also hear it when I take shots when the camera starts auto focusing and when lightly tapping the back cover near the camera.
My older Diamond had the same problem.
Just the crap cameras HTC uses.

Radeon123 said:
I do also hear it when I take shots when the camera starts auto focusing and when lightly tapping the back cover near the camera.
My older Diamond had the same problem.
Just the crap cameras HTC uses.
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How pathetic, paying more than 1049$ for this machine and what a crappy built quality... screen bends when taping on it... backcover and usb cracking noise ( also near the volume buttons ) and now that freaking rattling noise.Absolutely crap.....

It must the mechanicals used for moving the lens during focusing.

Today I went to HTC dealer store nearby... I asked for a new device out of the box. Surprisingly, the new device also makes that rattling noise. I tend to believe it was meant to be done that way. Who knows... maybe its an option

Anyone can tell me if my phone has a problem?

Hay everybody, pls help me check if this is normal or my replaced phone is another defective one. thanks!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jtl_N3rBxc
some information:
1. I have closed the camera app normally. I didn't suddenly took out the battery while the app is running.
2. The noise is actually pretty loud even with the battery cover on.
3. I used normal strength to do the experiment in the video. I didn't intentionally increase the strength to make it a problem.. Just like you casually put the phone on the table ...
Thanks!

yes shaking the **** out of it will probaby jack it up! just kidding mine don't do it

so bad luck i am ... gonna shake HTC in order to get my money back from their mouth..

The noise itself is normal, afaik everyone's phone make that sound.. However, and this could simply be the way it was recorded, your's sounds louder than both N1's have held (the two I had were identical). Again, this could simply be the way it was recorded.

bofslime said:
The noise itself is normal, afaik everyone's phone make that sound.. However, and this could simply be the way it was recorded, your's sounds louder than both N1's have held (the two I had were identical). Again, this could simply be the way it was recorded.
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Thanks bofslime, I would say the actual noise is louder that the one in that video. My original phone only makes noise while taking pictures. If you shake it, it won't do so. But this replacement does. That's why I become so nervous and want to check how's everyone's doing.
Thanks for your reply.

The consensus is that it's the auto focus mechanism on the camera rattling. Mine does it too and I suspect most (every?) other nexus one does too.
It's kinda annoying, but nothing 'wrong' as such.

GlenH said:
The consensus is that it's the auto focus mechanism on the camera rattling. Mine does it too and I suspect most (every?) other nexus one does too.
It's kinda annoying, but nothing 'wrong' as such.
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its quite normal imho. mine does it too.

I hadn't read the query just clicked on the video. Figured it was some nexus porn. *excuse comment this is of no value*

My camera rattles a little bit too when I shake it and/or give it a light tap on the battery cover near the camera. Hoping it's normal....

Poll: Does your phone rattle when tapped near the camera?

I know many of us on this forum and others are suffering from this problem, but there aren't many people telling us if their phone is NOT rattling that way we know if we actually do have defective phones.
Take a moment and answer the poll!

its probably the autofocus mechanism in the camera.
Had a massive rattle with my xperia x1 i used to have - i replaced the handset with the warranty only to find the rattle was still there. some searching showed that it was the autofocus mechanism in the camera.
If you shake ur phone and you cant hear anything then i would assume its fine. tapping is obv more likely to elicit an abnormal sound

Correct. Basically the autofocus lens is set up like a voicecoil in a speaker. It rides on a tube wound with a coil placed in a magnetic field. There is movement when setting the phone down on it's back (less when laying it on it's face which is why you rarely hear it in that position).
Completely normal
adam18488 said:
its probably the autofocus mechanism in the camera.
Had a massive rattle with my xperia x1 i used to have - i replaced the handset with the warranty only to find the rattle was still there. some searching showed that it was the autofocus mechanism in the camera.
If you shake ur phone and you cant hear anything then i would assume its fine. tapping is obv more likely to elicit an abnormal sound
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adam18488 said:
its probably the autofocus mechanism in the camera.
Had a massive rattle with my xperia x1 i used to have - i replaced the handset with the warranty only to find the rattle was still there. some searching showed that it was the autofocus mechanism in the camera.
If you shake ur phone and you cant hear anything then i would assume its fine. tapping is obv more likely to elicit an abnormal sound
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I agree that it's camera, but I've seen atleast 3 people say that they have no rattle. Maybe they can't hear it, but it's worth taking a poll.

zero rattle

have not heard any camera rattle when tapped...

i have a slight rattle. i really hope too much rattling will not eventually cause camera to break or have blurry pics in the future. this is the first phone ive had where i actually use the camera/video capabilities

Seriously? A poll?
Definitely the autofocus.
Had an Xperia X1 myself and took a couple minutes to find out that the rattle was the autofocus.
Probably don't wanna tap at it too much, though. Might not do anything, but can never be too careful.
Edit: Oh, and yes... My Nexus One rattles when I tap near the camera as well.

That's good to hear, mine rattles too, and I was starting to get worried...

Mine rattles, if i hold it up to my ear and tap it, something in there is definitely rattling in there. In all likely hood the zoom/focus mechanism.

I never noticed it by tapping near the camera. I have Vibrate on key press when I type and thats how I first noticed it. When I type and the phone vibrates, you can hear the rattling, it's quite obvious and getting annoying since I type a lot on my phone.

Camera Clicking When Focusing

just wondering if any one with this phone wouldnt mind holding the phone to there ear whilst the camrea focuses as mine clicks very quietly and just wondering if they all do it or if mines faulty!
Cheers Guys

The camera is a small piece of hardware held in a small magnet driven cage. It moves slightly back and forth when focusing.

but is it suposed to click quietly?

I wondered why my camera made that sound too

Mine's always clicked and I've never had any problems with it - I just figure it's meant to be that way.

Westie69 said:
but is it suposed to click quietly?
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Well mine makes no sound at all when i focus, and when i shake the phone (how this issue first came to light) i can barely hear it. Other people however have reported a much louder rattle.
If yours is noticably loud, and/or sounds like gears clicking, perhaps you have a badly mounted camera, and should get it replaced.

ok glad to see other people have herd the noise i guess it just how it is

My Camera makes no clicks when focusing, but ive just deafened myself when holding close to my ear and taking a picture!! that shutter sound is LOUD that close up!!
But if i shake my phone it does rattle.. its just the volume rocker, but also the bottom buttons are a little loose...

Went into the 02 shop and checked with 2 of there HD2 and they do click very quitely like mine

+1 ...
a common issue perhaps ....

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a common issue perhaps ....
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Or how it is meant to function?
A mechanical/moving parts-based focus system will always make noises.

I also can hear the "clicking", more like a distorted sound when focusing to near objects.

espaleena said:
I also can hear the "clicking", more like a distorted sound when focusing to near objects.
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me too I can hear the clicking !!!!

ahmadssb said:
me too I can hear the clicking !!!!
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I wonder its normal or not, cause I don't realize when taking photo outdoors.
Till I tried in my room which is very quiet & can hear it clearly.
Hope its not a broken mechanism or might just be the focusing of gears.
So far I've never dropped my HD2 nor hard shocking force to it.

Hi,
mine make a slight clic when focusing, but I clearly remember that my old sony W810i make that noise too, for me it seems normal for an autofocus device...

mine had a soft click too. but could'nt be heard when u taking a photo, just by holding near your ear it can be heard.

Every piece of machinery that I have with auto focus makes that kind of sounds - Video cameras, photo cameras, my old Asus P535, so it is PERFECTLY normal.

Sorry for bumping the thread.
I guess then it is normal to have similar (but more quiet) clicking when camera is switched off and you put the phone one the table for example
If you are not very gentle of course

Mine clicks too. Very silent noise. Can hear it not only when using WM, but also in Android, so i presume it's a hardware thing.
Sent from my HD2

The camera lens on the HD2 is likely like alot of smaller camera lenses and CD/DVD drive lenses. Think of a speaker with the voice coil that moves up and down, then replace the speaker cone with a lens. An electromagnet makes it move up and down to focus. The clicking you're hearing is likely the mechanical system hitting either the min or max stop point.
I hear it on mine too, never really bothered me since i understand how they work. Its also why you might hear a slight rattle when the camera is off. The optical system is mounted on very light springs, its going to rattle around when it doesnt have current flowing though the electromagnet to hold the lens stable.
If you have a broken CD/DVD drive tear it apart and check out how the lens is mounted in the optical pickup for a better understanding of the mechanics

Something loose on the inside?

Helloooo everyone. I only have one question, want to confirm or debunk something with the wider group of people. I may be just over reacting but thats just the jewish part of me considering the rma or a refund, kidding, lol. Whenever I shake my phone by the ear I can hear a lil something being loose in the case of my g6. Do You also experience the same thing? Can it truly be the autofocus thingy, or something else?

I don't hear anything when I shake my phone. Is it your phone, or do you have your phone in a case? If so, have you tried removing and shaking both separately?
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Well, it happens with a firm shake, and the vibration inside is very delicate. Appreciate the feedback

It could be the OIS on the main camera. I don't hear a shaking but my hearing isn't that good either lol

It's the camera stability, it's perfectly normal. If you put your ear next the the camera and shake the phone quickly you should hear it. Also try it while the camera app is open and the stability is working, you shouldn't hear anything.

Damn, I can hear it just the same with the camera app.
DVC1985 said:
It's the camera stability, it's perfectly normal. If you put your ear next the the camera and shake the phone quickly you should hear it. Also try it while the camera app is open and the stability is working, you shouldn't hear anything.
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Is it because of them dual lenses? The sound does diminish depending on the lense Im using.

CaIJeT09 said:
Damn, I can hear it just the same with the camera app.
Is it because of them dual lenses? The sound does diminish depending on the lense Im using.
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I can hear it and i think thats perfectly normal, probably for every phone. Don't really know what it is but i was always suspecting it was gyroscope or something like that. My LG G3 also had this same sound when shaking.

CaIJeT09 said:
Damn, I can hear it just the same with the camera app.
Is it because of them dual lenses? The sound does diminish depending on the lense Im using.
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It's OIS, or optical image stabilization.

Ok. Thank You all for help! I get real concerned really easy. I only bought my G6 a few days ago. If it wasnt for my 4yo daughter pushing the sim needle into the sound cancellation mic hole on top during my brief absence in the room right after I brought the thing home Id be completely chill rofl. )

Sorry to reply years later, but I just dropped my G6 and then tested it, and shook it hard, and noticed same rattling lol. I took my fiancé's iPhone that also has OIS etc, iPhone 6S that is, and although it sounds tinier, the rattle is still there.
The reason why some owners don't notice the rattle and some do, is because it solely depends on how hard they're shaking their phone AND the direction or way they're shaking it. That is all there is to it.
Your phone is awesome and not broken, at least when it comes to this. You might have a totally different phone by now lol!
Cheers!