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I thought about getting a stand alone mp3 player, but considering WinMo already has a player it would save me a considerable amount of cash. The only thing I'm worried about is the sound quality since this was designed to be a phone after all. Has anyone done a comparison with a decent pair of headphones? Any word which direction i should point myself into?
the oem head phones can be very uncomfortable for
prolonged periods of time,
i suggest you buy a usb to 3.5mm converter
which can be found on ebay or amazon for as little as
$1.50, as for the sound quality, it is very good on
some decent headphones, it all comes down to
what headphones you pair it with, if you use the
oem headphones than the sound quality is
acceptable but not great. i would also suggest you
use tcpmp to play those other formats with higher sound
quality, and S2P for an easy to use media player.
hope that helps.
Short Answer.
Yes the Hermes makes a great MP3 player, a little complex to use, but still a great MP3 player.
Long Answer.
I find it to work rather well. However I very rarely use it with headphones, I have the audio out, feeding my headunit in my car. So it plays through 9 speakers. (2 tweeters, 4 mid range, 2 mid bass, and 1 sub) People are amazed that all my music is played through my phone and the controllability I have over selection is very awesome. I have even used my phone as a substitute for DJ equipment. I set up all the speakers and amps, plugged in my phone and got the music playing, then setup all the electronic equipment and moved over to Virtual DJ with a laptop and External Drives. When the night was winding down, I went back to the phone with a pre-programed play-list and had all the gear except speakers and amps loaded and packed 30mins before the party was even done.
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I have been having a weird problem with the touch HD. After I installed pocket music player 5.1 I noticed that the palyer is not working correctly.
When I listen to music I notice that I hear a small gap or click in the song barely unoticeable, but to me its annoying. I store the music files on the external sd card. Also the sound quality really sucks from the hd compared to other mobile devices.
Then after playing some time I get a weird message that there is a error message ( audiomanager.exe ) encountered a problem.
Well Please tell me what might be the source of error with the pocket music player. And why do I get error messages.
Is there a better player than pocket music and gives great sound.
I don't like the music player that comes with touch hd, it does not sound that good either.
I kept getting that error with the TouchFlo musicplayer. I seem to have narrowed it down to the mps tags. I removed the track no and any comments and now have no problems.
For playback, are you talking about headphones or speaker ?
Have you installed th SD tune up prog ?
I have now installed the tune up prog.
I will test it now, but I mean that the lag in sound was when I connected the headphones.
What do u think of the sound quality ? I really am not impressed.
Is it cause of the pocket music player, or is there any other good music player
hykhleif said:
I have now installed the tune up prog.
I will test it now, but I mean that the lag in sound was when I connected the headphones.
What do u think of the sound quality ? I really am not impressed.
Is it cause of the pocket music player, or is there any other good music player
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I find my iphone headphones fine but my B&O do highlight problems (but they do on anything), overall I find it fine. You can adjust the sound to suit using the audio booster. Theres lots of different settings to tune the music.
I think is a common problem I have a few friends including me facing this problem ' skip gap within the song. We all using many brand of headphone to test it still having same problem (Audio-Techic, CrossRoads, Jays, etc). Anyone have any idea to how solve it? Thanks....
Hi all,
I got my Hero on Monday and I'm blown away by this phone so far!
The only not-so-great aspect I have found is the music playback:
1) There is a small amount of background noise when playing music, which is noticeable
in a quiet environment during low-volume parts of tracks. I don't always listen to Metal on the subway, so this is kind of a problem.
2) Sometimes, when listening to consecutive tracks of an album, there is a stutter when a new track starts. Haven't found a way to reproduce this reliably yet.
I was expecting to be able to ditch my iPod for the Hero, but I'm a little hesitant now. Does anyone else experience these issues?
I have the same issue with the jumping at the beginning of a new track, haven't noticed the background noise though probably because I do listen to metal.
Maybe it has something to do with standard sd card or how the mp3 was created? I hope someone knows the answer.
Also:
Does anyone know if there is a graphic equaliser somewhere? Music seams to be too trebley (using Seinnhauser earphones), but I haven't been able to find anyway to adjust it
Forgot to mention: I used 192 kbit/s MP3s encoded by iTunes and portable AKG headphones. I'm going to try out the included earbuds when I get home, to see if they "equalize" anthing.
I'm listening to Rufus Wainwright's Hallejuah on my Hero now over a set of Sony MDR-NC22 Noise Cancelling Earphones (in-ear type) with the noise cancelling switched off. No background hiss. Could it be from your MP3?
ghoonk said:
I'm listening to Rufus Wainwright's Hallejuah on my Hero now over a set of Sony MDR-NC22 Noise Cancelling Earphones (in-ear type) with the noise cancelling switched off. No background hiss. Could it be from your MP3?
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That's possible of course, but I never noticed noise like this on my iPod. One other thing I'll try at home is listening to a WAV file and check for noise.
Send me the MP3 file and I'll load it up on my device now and let you know if I'm having any problems
my email address is my username @gmail.com
Ok, I tried the included earbuds, and the noise is much less pronounced than with my AKG headphones, but still audible. It starts as soon as the playback begins and stops about 2 seconds after I pause the music player. (I guess this is when the audio hardware shuts down.)
MP3 and WAV exhibit the same noise, so it's not encoding artefacts.
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Ok, I tried the included earbuds, and the noise is much less pronounced than with my AKG headphones, but still audible. It starts as soon as the playback begins and stops about 2 seconds after I pause the music player. (I guess this is when the audio hardware shuts down.)
MP3 and WAV exhibit the same noise, so it's not encoding artefacts.
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Is it a buzzing noise?
I'd describe it more like a hissing sound.
Edit: I have attached a sample MP3 (hissingat5.mp3) in a ZIP file. I can clearly hear a hissing sound around 0:05 when the music gets quiet and I'm not using the included earphones. Anyone else? (I've checked the original CD with the same headphones, there's definitely no noise on the recording.)
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2) Sometimes, when listening to consecutive tracks of an album, there is a stutter when a new track starts. Haven't found a way to reproduce this reliably yet.
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My ipod touch does this sometimes. I have to reboot the ipod and its fine after. Maybe its because they are low on memory. Have you got lots of apps running? Try taskiller and try again?
I've found the music app struggles the most with low system resources and during the phones numerous "heavy lag" periods makes play back shutter or even stop altogether!
And god forbid you have more than five albums with bog standard 600x600 cover art... slow doesn't really describe it
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My ipod touch does this sometimes. I have to reboot the ipod and its fine after. Maybe its because they are low on memory. Have you got lots of apps running? Try taskiller and try again?
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Good idea, that might be a reason.
I think I'll be sticking to my iPod for now, though. While the stuttering problem is probably fixable in software, I'm not so sure about the audio quality.
my music also lags(espacially in sleep mode.. it's ridicoulis)... it's so annoying.. something needs to be done about this... I've tryed to memory cards and the music lags on both.. one is fast and one is slow..
I've found that if I play music through the phone itself or my headphones, there's no problem. If i connect it to my little 2.1 speakers, songs stutter, jump, restart, skip etc CONSTANTLY. Any ideas why this could happen? The speakers work fine with everything else, afaik. And the Hero works fine with other stuff... guesses?
I also have the slight hiss for a few seconds. Sound quality is pretty average, but i have my awesome samsung P3 for that
Im using a Philips SHB9000 stereobluetooth headset, theres no hiss in that, maybee its bound to wired only? thoe i have some stutter.. i use a Class 4 4GB Microsdcard.
skee^ said:
Im using a Philips SHB9000 stereobluetooth headset, theres no hiss in that, maybee its bound to wired only?
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Yeah, since you're not using the Hero's audio hardware at all, I wouldn't expect there to be any noise.
BTW, how much does the bluetooth headset drain the battery? I was thinking of using one to solve this problem.
Lack of gapless playback is also a bummer for me. I might be going back to my Zune.
wossName said:
Hi all,
I got my Hero on Monday and I'm blown away by this phone so far!
The only not-so-great aspect I have found is the music playback:
1) There is a small amount of background noise when playing music, which is noticeable
in a quiet environment during low-volume parts of tracks. I don't always listen to Metal on the subway, so this is kind of a problem.
2) Sometimes, when listening to consecutive tracks of an album, there is a stutter when a new track starts. Haven't found a way to reproduce this reliably yet.
I was expecting to be able to ditch my iPod for the Hero, but I'm a little hesitant now. Does anyone else experience these issues?
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Exactly the same as on my phone. I'm on my fifth Hero now and knew about the hiss already but this is the first to stutter. Exactly the same files, exactly the same memory card, exactly the same apps installed and running on the system.
No idea why one Hero has difficulty and others don't.
My Hero stutters even in the middle of songs on playback. I tried an alternate music player (nswPlayer) and it didn't help. I'm using mp3s but I think they're 320kbps. Maybe a re-encode would help?
Hello!
I have searched now for several hours in different forums and many threads, but I did not find my specific problems or any solutions to them. Therefore I want to start a new thread.
One thing in advance: I have my HD2 now for about 3 weeks and generally I am very happy with it. Unfortunately, I am experiencing some really bothering problems with music playback, and as this is the second most important feature to me (after telephony), I really hope, that there is some solution out there.
1. According to some Internet pages the integrated music player of the HD2 should be capable of gapless playback of MP3 files since a software update. Well, I have installed the latest 1.66.xx ROM for my device, and unfortunately gapless playback does not work at all. When I am listening to a concert and one track ends and another starts, I always hear a small interruption in the applause. When I play back the exact same tracks on my PC with Winamp everything works fine and both tracks play back to back without any interruption at all. As far as I know Winamp prebuffers approx. 2 seconds and in my opinion for gapless playback the integrated music player of the HD2 should too, but obviously does not.
2. Especially when I am listening to tracks with a quite low volume (e.g. instrumental Soundtrack), I always hear a short "crackling" sound at the transition from one track to the next (or at the beginning of the new track). One forum entry claimed, that this "crackling" sound is caused by the fact, that the HD2 disables the headphones output after approx. 2 seconds of silence and just reactivates it again when there is sound again. The reactivation of the headphones output seems to result in the "crackling" sound.
3. I thought that I can get rid of both problems just by using another player software as alternative, I even bought one of these. I tested "Microfi Nitrogen", "MortPlayer", "Slide 2 Play" and "PocketMusic".
Using the "Cross Fade" mode of "PocketMusic" in fact solved the first two problems effectively, so I got gapless playback without a "crackling" sound between two tracks.
Unfortunately, with all of these alternate players I experienced one even more bothering problem: Every now and then (approx. 1 to 2 times per minute of playback) a short "clicking" sound is audible during playback, which reminds of an scratched vinyl disc. If I rewind the track, the "clicking" sound does not occur at the same position, but at another at a later time. These "clicking" sounds do not occur at all with the integrated music player of the HD2, but with ALL of the mentioned alternate music players I tested. Of course, the "clicking" sounds are audible better, when you are listening to instrumental or classic music with a relatively low volume than with loud Rock or Heavy Metal music tracks.
To avoid the obvious suggestions:
- The problems were already present with the 1.48.xx ROM and are still present with the 1.66.xx ROM.
- I tested several different headphones (cheap and expensive ones) including the original HTC ones which shipped with the HD2.
- I can rule out the MP3s as cause of the problems: There are absolutely no problems with them when they are played back on the PC with Winamp, a Sony-Ericsson phone, an iPod or when played back with the mentioned alternate players on Pocket LOOX N110, N120 (Prototype), 420, N500 and N520.
- It does not matter whether the MP3s are located on the internal memory of the HD2 or the SD card.
- I already tried to disable all data connections on the HD2 and closed all other programs using the Task Manager to avoid any interferences.
- I even performed a Hard Reset without installing additional software or tweaks (except for one of the alternate players).
- I tested "PocketMusic" with all possible settings regarding Cache, Buffer Priority etc..
- It does not matter, whether any Equalizer (if available) are enabled or not.
- I also tested my brother's HD2, and both devices - my own HD2 and my brother's HD2 - show the same problems.
My questions now are:
a) Can anybody verify the "clicking" sounds when using an alternate music player software? If not, which music player software do you use at which settings?
b) Is it possible somehow to disable the interruptions between two tracks with the integrated music player of the HD2 and thus enable true gapless MP3 playback, for example by an undocumented registry setting regarding (pre-)buffer size or Caching?
c) Is it possible to disable the deactivation of the Headphones output after some seconds of silence (which is said to cause the "crackling" sound), so that the Headphones output is always enabled when there is playback using the integrated music player of the HD2, for example by a Registry setting?
Generally, I would love to continue using the integrated music player of the HD2 (which I am doing now anyway, and it looks really nice, by the way), but the missing gapless playback and the "crackling" sound during the transition of tracks is really bothering me very much.
Many thanks in advance for your help!
DotWin
I dont get the crackling sounds you speak of but it is a little off putting when I'm listening to a non stop mix CD thats broken up into tracks, when a track abruptly ends it's followed by a half second silence only to head right back into the music.
Is there some registry tweak that we can use to either eliminate this gap or even shorten it?
I use Coreplayer, and it seems they screwed up the standby keepalive at least on the HD2. With BT headphones, if I start music and then turn the screen off with the power button, I'll start getting random skips. With wired headphones ith completely stops playing music. So I've bound long press windows key to "turn screen off" in AEBPlus, and I now have no more problem with that (when I remember to press that one instead of the power button, that is...). Works perfectly, never heard a skip anymore (I have a set of Sennheiser PX200II, way good enough to make anything noticeable )
Your problems with 3rd-party players could be linked, no idea...
Not sure about the crackling, as I listen to music for at least 2 hours a day on the way to work and I use a pair of Sennheiser HD-25 headphones (http://www.sennheiser.co.uk/uk/home...onal_headphones-headsets_dj-headphones_502188) and I don't hear any crackling between tracks or in periods of silence. Only hear vinyl crackle where the source for the MP3 is vinyl.
The lack of gapless playback, as jmwarren85 mentioned is really annoying as I listen to a lot of mix albums... one solution I use is to take all the MP3's from that disc and splice them into a single track and then listen to that on the HD2.
Also finally I can't say I have heard any clicking noises on my HD2 but I know what sort of clicking you are referring to and that may be due to the encoder used and/or its settings when the MP3's were encoded. Some of the codecs that players use for decoding MP3's aren't the best (ie not well optimised, which can especially be a problem on a mobile device) and you occasionally get audio artifacts.
I use LAME with VBR-0 with quality 0 (highest) and the minimum bit rate of 128 and maximum bit rate of 320 using 44.1kHz instead of 48kHz for compatibility and I don't seem to get any problems.
Hope this helps...
Hi!
Thank you for your messages!
After extensive testing, I have finally bought "Pocket Player" which has solved all of my problems.
But I still think, that the integrated player (which at least looks great) has some bugs in the audio department that should be fixed.
DotWin
DotWin said:
Hi!
Thank you for your messages!
After extensive testing, I have finally bought "Pocket Player" which has solved all of my problems.
But I still think, that the integrated player (which at least looks great) has some bugs in the audio department that should be fixed.
DotWin
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Hello there.
The crackling you've described may be in relation to network use, for example every time my phone uses the 'net connection (HSDPA) to get weather, location or email, the audio stops for a brief second and continues; this is almost like the crackle you describe.
This in turn disables the graphic equalizer, so I am regularly re-enabling this between songs or in the middle of songs.
Test the theory by putting your phone in airplane mode or disabling all data reliant services to see if this is the issue. Even if it is I can't offer a fix, but at least you know what the issue is at least with the built in HD2 audio app.
I have the exact same issues as the OP. I contacted HTC about the gapless playback and they said they're testing...
I hear a soft/small pop between tracks too when I'm using headphones.
I also sometimes experience another issue where sometimes instead of going to the next song after finishing the current one, it just stops. Time remaining shows 0 secs, it's 'playing' (pause button is shown) but it doesn't move on.
I know it's a little late to reply to this post, but it was just to say that you can remove the gaps between the tracks using Ogg Vorbis encoding instead of MP3 encoding. Winamp for Android can read ogg tracks
About sound quality, there is always a quiet background interferences noise that bothers me. It is particularly annoying when listening quiet music (OST, classical...)
Here's an odd one, and I was wondering if anyone else had experienced this;
The opening track on the Elixa Doolittle album is a song called 'Moneybox,. I have this as a 320kb MP3 file on my X10 and PC. I notice when I play this on the X10 there is a lot of distortion especially in the first 30 seconds or so, sounding kind of like a blown speaker, and mainly in the left channel. I have tried several media players and earphones but it is still there, yet I can play the same file on my PC using same earphones and it sounds fine.
I haven't noticed as yet any other tracks exibiting this problem, and I do listen to a lot of music.
So I was wondering,
a) is there a fault with my handset,
or
b) has the mastering engineer of this particular album cocked up slightly, as (and being in the business I know this next bit to be true) they are supposed to produce a finished product that sounds great on pretty much any playback media.
It's almost as if there is some sub bass stuff going on that the X10 amplifier stage just can't deal with.
distortion
it happens when mastering is too HOT i mean roughly >95dB and clipping occurs. Mp3gain the only solution http mp3gain.sourceforge.net it will not change the quality of a song -just its loudness (preamp). I can honestly recommend it --> all your mp3s and mp4s (AAC there is an option for that too) will have equal volume. just scan and fix Your whole collection (it may take some time). Some sh*tty mp3s are so loud that even at the lowest setting in a phone are too loud and distorted,
Cheers
Simon
thanks for the advice, so do you think maybe the x10 pre amp stage or D to A is more sensitive to this than say, my PC sound card (Tascam US-144)? Turning output volume down doesn't reduce the effect BTW.
tried it, reduced level but distortion still there - bizarre...
Ive downloaded a few from vodafone music store and theyre the same. Quality wise we have gone backwards! My nakamchi cassette deck wees all over mp3s
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Nakamichi. .. now that's quality!
Amyway, I know we are only talking about one track but the fact that it sounds clean on anything other than my x10 is interesting. I want to find out if its a design issue or a fault with my handset.
Can u post it here so that we can check.
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Here's an odd one, and I was wondering if anyone else had experienced this;
The opening track on the Elixa Doolittle album is a song called 'Moneybox,. I have this as a 320kb MP3 file on my X10 and PC. I notice when I play this on the X10 there is a lot of distortion especially in the first 30 seconds or so, sounding kind of like a blown speaker, and mainly in the left channel. I have tried several media players and earphones but it is still there, yet I can play the same file on my PC using same earphones and it sounds fine.
I haven't noticed as yet any other tracks exibiting this problem, and I do listen to a lot of music.
So I was wondering,
a) is there a fault with my handset,
or
b) has the mastering engineer of this particular album cocked up slightly, as (and being in the business I know this next bit to be true) they are supposed to produce a finished product that sounds great on pretty much any playback media.
It's almost as if there is some sub bass stuff going on that the X10 amplifier stage just can't deal with.
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I guess I could put up 20 seconds that shouldn't upset record bosses lol. Ill do it when I'm back on Monday. Thanks: -)
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I guess I could put up 20 seconds that shouldn't upset record bosses lol. Ill do it when I'm back on Monday. Thanks: -)
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Yes, only the part where problem was discovered.
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this is just plain odd...
I have just loaded the track into Cakewalk to clip 20 seconds off, then exported as an mp3 using LAME encoder. My plan was to put the clip on the phone, then record the headphone output so I could upload both a clean clip and a distorted clip for you to compare.
Thing is, the mp3 clip plays fine on the handset, yet it was taken from the troublesome file, which was originally a 320kbs file, and re encoded to 192kbs.
I wonder then if it is an issue with 320kbs mp3 playback?
I must stress that I did not alter levels at all during re encoding.
Odd.
Well, the obvious first question is: How are other 320kbs files? Also, have you tried a format other than MP3? Mediascape can handle AACs in the .m4a format... could be a corrupt file somehow.