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Curious, how many of you are running skype? Try this

This is just something I stumbled across a while ago but haven't had the time to post it. I'm not making any promises so this is just a head's up.
If anyone remembers my last post on skype here, you'll recall me saying that there's a Disable Codecs key in the registry. Well I didn't know the codecs but SkypeSmart over at Skype forums posted this tweak for his iPaq and it works a treat.
I'm running my Mini S with the original ROM and skype with my key reading: ILBC G729 EG711U
As a result it only uses the EG711A codec and guess what, it works, at stock speed too. My phone is an utter mess but it works at an acceptable level that is to say both parties can hear the conversation without any hiccups. Tested over a WiFi link but be warned you'll lose connectivity with echo123 and it also seems to me that Skype Linux doesn't have the EG711A or EG711U or even the G729 codecs so you won't be able to chat with them unless you enable ILBC.
One thing worth testing is to see what happens in a conference call (with a Windows machine as host and a Linux machine and the wizard with some of the codecs disabled) but I don't have the time to test so be my guest and post the results if you do test it.
By the way, I use Skype v2 Feb 14 release. If anyone wants to post their overclocked results or anything, great.

Indeed it does work and VERY well. I just called across a very sketchy broadband connection and audio in BOTH ways was clear. Before, I could be heard by the other party but could not hear them in return. Once I overclocked, I could actually have a couple of pragrams running in the background and still have acceptable resources left. Bravo to whoever came up with this tweak.

How far did you overclock? Also, I know a lot of people are viewing this thread but only one response so far...does that mean the rest of you are enjoying Skype? :shock:

i use skype with my wizard very well and i can use skypeout as well.
i installed for the high cpu usage, not low cpu usage. but i also use omapoverclock.
what i did, just installed skype, then change the content of d shortcut using total commander in windows/start menu/programs/skype.lnk with this one:
46#"\program files\omapclock.exe" -clock 240 -launch "\Program Files\Skype for Pocket PC\Skype.exe" -restore?Program Files\Skype for Pocket PC\Skype.exe,
in this case, i put omapclock file in 'program files' folder, and don't forget to use "," sign in the last content of skype. because it gives u back d skype icon, otherwise u'll see omapclock icon.
Gut luck!!! and i hope this can be useful 4 u...
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i remember trying this on my wizard...i placed a call to a land phone and i could not hear the other phone ring or anything.. but t did call..
What am i doing wrong?

Thanks Ricky, that trick with Omapoverclock works a treat. By the way not sure if it is my imagination but sounds like the I am getting the call playing through my handsfree speaker and not the ear piece. Does anyone else get this or am I going mad????

jt_armstrong said:
Thanks Ricky, that trick with Omapoverclock works a treat. By the way not sure if it is my imagination but sounds like the I am getting the call playing through my handsfree speaker and not the ear piece. Does anyone else get this or am I going mad????
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You're not. Apparently the M600 is the only phone which might support non-speakerphone chat on skype. I heard that its latest ROM does exactly what you want it do. I don't know if its a Skype specific issue or whether it's ROM specific but I have not seen any apps other than the phone app itself take advantage of the earpiece.
@guyver2077:
If you're referring to the tweak I listed, what does it do when you call PCs? I made a skype out call actually 3 of them and I could hear all of them clearly - 1 to Guam , 2 to HK and I'm in the UK.
@Ricky:
Does 240MHz eat away at the battery life, especially with WiFi on?
I just spent the last few days setting up a Linksys NSLU2 with DebianSlug and it works great; Samba works with the phone too 8). A little tempted to get a bluetooth dongle to stick to the slug so that I can connect to the net over bluetooth when possible but the BT stack on the mobile doesn't support BT networking does it?

ok.. so does this only work with speakerphone on?? i didnt hear anything through the actual phone ear reciever

guyver2077 said:
ok.. so does this only work with speakerphone on?? i didnt hear anything through the actual phone ear reciever
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When I said speakerphone I meant simply that the sound is coming out at the same volume as media player, etc if that makes sense. There's no reason for you not to be able to hear a thing though. :?

Thanks AsGF2MX, It works great with the headfones I just don't normally use them.

guyver2077 said:
ok.. so does this only work with speakerphone on?? i didnt hear anything through the actual phone ear reciever
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If you think about it, it makes sense. This is Skype for Pocket PC, most Pocket PCs don't have the phone built in.
Do you have a BT headset? If so open the audio gateway (either using the program posted in this forum or via Voice Command press BT button and just say "Open Skype", the Audio gate will stay open).
This should allow you to use your BT headset for Skype calls.

kyphur said:
guyver2077 said:
ok.. so does this only work with speakerphone on?? i didnt hear anything through the actual phone ear reciever
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If you think about it, it makes sense. This is Skype for Pocket PC, most Pocket PCs don't have the phone built in.
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I suppose you're right, that would explain things but is there an option to actually channel audio to the ear piece? If not, then it's definitely an issue with the way the device ROMs are designed (assuming that there is a way for software to utilize the ear piece).
Well, I'm glad a few people found it useful and I hope it's working for the rest of you as well. I might just pick-up OMAP clock a little later and try to see how well an overclock fares on my device but first, I'm going to try a few apps I've been wanting to try for a while.

Great tip!
I have previously tried Skype on my Qtek 9100 but have always found the audio quality quite bad, even when overclocking to 240.
After changing the DisableCodecs as suggested here, the audio quality is now really good, also when using SkypeOut to a Fixednet phone.

Thanks for the tip!

Yes Great tip, thanks

Can someone point me in the direction of the program that opens the audio gateway?
I don't have MS Voice Command, I only have the default "Voice Speed Dial".
EDIT: FOUND IT!!!
Therez two actually. one is btAudio, and the other is VjVolubilis

After Skype Install - Alarm clock chaos
Hi
I have been reading this thread with interest. I own an old XDA (one with aerial) and now the XDA Mini S. Have had it now for about 6 months and sync up to 2 pc's, have multiple email accounts, use the Wifi/msn - so use pretty much all of functionality. Happy so far!
I installed the pocket pc version of Skype last night - and found that this morning my alarm went off - but with no options displayed on the screen to snooze/dismiss alarm! Consequently - the alarm/vibrate goes off every 5 minutes - and only thing i can do is remove the battery -so phone basically unusable. Soft reset does not help - and would rather not hard reset as then will have to redo email settings etc.
Anyone out there had this problem before? Your help would be appreciated (think you are calling the XDA mini a wizard)
OS Build: 5.1.70 (14406.1.1.1)
ROM: 1.5.4.2 WWE
ROM date: 11/8/05
Radio: 01.09.10
Protocol: 4.0.13.20
ExtROM: 1.5.4.103

Have you removed the Skype software already?

After Skype Install - Alarm clock chaos
Hi - Yes, I have removed Skype from the XDA Mini. Soft-reset again - no difference.

I had that alarm problem once.
I'd had my cingular 8125 (HTC wizard) for a week or two and had been putting apps on it and messing with the registry, then one morning my alarm went off, I reached over to silence it, pushed some random button accidentally, and the alarm kept on going. I opened my eyes and sat there for a minute waiting for my brain to boot up because I wasn't seeing the notice showing me which softkey to press. After awhile, I realized that I was completely awake, and there really was no way to turn the alarm off!
I messed around with that thing forever. Scrolling through menus, doing soft resets, etc. Nothing would silence the alarm. I tried reseting the time/date and doing a soft reset, but every time the device booted up, it would go nuts with alarm tones (they kept multiplying! Every time I would reset the time after having set it back, another alarm would go off and they started piling up!).
Boy, that really ruined my morning.
I ended up having to do a hard reset to fix the problem. And when I ran my latest backup, the problem came right back! So I had to do another hard reset and roll back to an earlier backup.
I really don't know what the problem was, but I think I might have a slight idea. I had downloaded some program called CheckNotifications by Scarybear software (I now know it's not meant for WM5) and I think I must have deleted that alarm notification from the "notification database". (No, I don't actually know what any of that means, I'm just regurgitating words I read online in a manner which seems to make a little sense). So some parte of the OS somewhere remembered the alarm, and turned it on at the right time, but the part of the OS responsible for giving you the facility to turn it off was screwed. But that's just a wild guess.
Maybe you also have some issue with your notification database.
Good luck! Of course, if you were anywhere near as annoyed as I was, you probably already said a few (dozen) choice curse words and did a hard reset.
(edit: clarified phone)

Hello can you hear me?

Hi,
It happend several times now, when I call, the other side doesnt hear me. I am pretty sure I didn't touch the mute button.
I did installed resco audio recorder and s2u. I've just did a hard reset... hopefully it will go better now.
Althought i did find someone having the same problem http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2006/10/05/The-Emperor-Has-No-Close.aspx#8580478
But anyway, it is really irritating, because i needed to call the doctor, and twice they hang up because they didn't hear me. After hard reset and reconfiguration and operator installation i could finally reach them. All well ends well.
Lesson learned? yes, have a second phone ready.

Waking up on incoming calls takes too long....

I've just realized that I keep missing calls because it seems to me that the Touch HD takes entirely too long to wake up on an incoming call.
Example:
I called my phone, it rang TWO times before the phone started to wake up, by the time I was able to answer it, it was too late.
Anyway to speed up the waking of this phone on incoming calls. I can't have all these delays. Or is there a way to make it ring LONGER (as a workaround) before going to voicemail?
Does having the phone locked increase the time it takes to wake it up?
Question 2:
It seems like just picking up my phone from my desk answers it. That's no good, sometimes I want to pick it up to look the the caller id but it auto answers upon picking up the phone off my desk. Can this be disabled?

derrickonline said:
I've just realized that I keep missing calls because it seems to me that the Touch HD takes entirely too long to wake up on an incoming call.
Example:
I called my phone, it rang TWO times before the phone started to wake up, by the time I was able to answer it, it was too late.
Anyway to speed up the waking of this phone on incoming calls. I can't have all these delays. Or is there a way to make it ring LONGER (as a workaround) before going to voicemail?
Does having the phone locked increase the time it takes to wake it up?
Question 2:
It seems like just picking up my phone from my desk answers it. That's no good, sometimes I want to pick it up to look the the caller id but it auto answers upon picking up the phone off my desk. Can this be disabled?
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Try using 3rd party apps like 'Advanced Config', 'HD Tweak' and 'SKTools' to tweak to optimise your HD performance.
I know HD Tweak has the option to enable or disable ring delay for incoming calls

I have tweak HD now. So let me ask you, why would anyone want a ring delay in the first place?

I hate how long it takes to answer a call. Sometimes i answer on the first ring and the caller says "what took you so long?".
What's even worse is, if the phone is doing something and someone rings, i can press the answer button all i like but nothing happens...the phone seems to clogged up with other tasks. This may just be the ROM though, i'm about to flash the new Touch of HD rom so i'll see how it goes.

Gat, I'm pretty sure it's a power issue. Windows Mobile is slow and clunky especially on a 528Mhz processor. Can't wait for tegra or snapdragon. I don't think another rom will help you.

derrickonline said:
I have tweak HD now. So let me ask you, why would anyone want a ring delay in the first place?
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Personally I don't why, but I can't answer for everyone!
I hate how long it takes to answer a call. Sometimes i answer on the first ring and the caller says "what took you so long?".
What's even worse is, if the phone is doing something and someone rings, i can press the answer button all i like but nothing happens...the phone seems to clogged up with other tasks. This may just be the ROM though, i'm about to flash the new Touch of HD rom so i'll see how it goes.
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Try using Dutty's Xtreme V1.8 ROM, link below. I haven't experienced any delays since I started using this ROM. May be a coincidence, but worth a try!

With Dutty's V1.8 rom it takes half-a-ring before the screen wakes up, and then a whole ring on silent before it makes any sound. So 1 1/2 rings before I know some-one is calling.

Guys, don't. This is a issue and fixed by HTC, there's a official patch for this problem: htc.com/www/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=179&act=sd&cat=all
fixed my equal problems at once!

The delay is caused by the HTC dialer and all the stuff it needs to load on an incomming call.
If it is a serious problem for you, use HD tweak to change the phone dialer back to WM6. This will give you instant ring on incomming call, but you will lose some features provided by the HTC dialer such as volume control during call, bluetooth notification on top bar,video calling and possibly mute on face down.
If you don't want to use HD Tweak the reg key is
HKLM\security\phone\skin_enabled
Option is 0 (disabled) 1 (enabled)
Soft reset to make the changes.

ardsar said:
The delay is caused by the HTC dialer and all the stuff it needs to load on an incomming call.
If it is a serious problem for you, use HD tweak to change the phone dialer back to WM6. This will give you instant ring on incomming call, but you will lose some features provided by the HTC dialer such as volume control during call, bluetooth notification on top bar,video calling and possibly mute on face down.
If you don't want to use HD Tweak the reg key is
HKLM\security\phone\skin_enabled
Option is 0 (disabled) 1 (enabled)
Soft reset to make the changes.
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Hi, I tried this from HDTweak but it did not seem to make a difference. The phone still takes about 1.5 rings before it starts to ring itself. I have lost the bluetooth icon.
Hmmm - I think I will just go back to the HTC dialer

This post should be deleted, but I don't know how.
Sorry

This is a issue and fixed by HTC, there's a official patch for this problem: htc.com/www/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=179&act=sd&cat=all
fixed my equal problems at once!
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bazzxdahtc, I can't find the patch for this issue under your link

This one should work: http://www.htc.com/europe/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=179&act=sd&cat=all
Look for:
- Hot fix for improving the on-screen slider feature for answering calls
and
- Hot fix to enhance response time for HTC Touch HD
These two made my HD work a lot better then before! I used to miss calls often due to the lag in answering incoming calls.

bazzxdahtc said:
This one should work: http://www.htc.com/europe/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=179&act=sd&cat=all
Look for:
- Hot fix for improving the on-screen slider feature for answering calls
and
- Hot fix to enhance response time for HTC Touch HD
These two made my HD work a lot better then before! I used to miss calls often due to the lag in answering incoming calls.
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These 2 fixes have nothing to do with the famous 2 ring delay. The response time improvement was to solve the latency when using the keyboard - ie sometimes it would appear to freeze. The second fix is for the slider only.
Suggest you guys do a bit of searching as there are a lot of threads relating to this famous 2 ring delay with wm6. The first incomming call always seems to take a bit longer after the phone has been switched off or soft reset - did you try and see what the delay is several times? Appologies that using the wm6 dialer did not work for you - it certainly does for me and many others.

Just trying to help...
I run stock ROM(1.14.404.3(V2227)NLD)+regular updates/patches and this works on my device, you doubt my experiences?
Have you actually tried these yourself? Or are you just reasoning from your cooked ROM...
Suggest you stay nice to everyone.

No i dont doubt your experience apart from the fact that htc fixes are not specific to the 2 ring delay. It also has nothing to do with the fact im using non stock rom .i applied these tweeks to the standard rom before flashing my device. if you do a search for 2 ring deLay, you will see that this is a common problem. Also other sites such as www.pocketshield.netserver01.com/readme.aspx make reference to this exact problem
I'm only tryin to help, and ive spent a lot of my time investigating this issue.

Just a quick thought.. do you have an MP3 assigned as ringtone? I recently added an MP3 ringtone and suddenly it took a lot longer before the phone started ringing..
Changed it back to one of the standard tones and it was much faster.

I agree about the MP3 issue.
I often see my Touch HD waking up to handle the call 1-2 seconds before I hear the ringtone. As soon as the dialler skin is up (or S2U2 application) then I am able to answer the call without the MP3 ring kicking in.

Before I use S2U2, Pocketshiel and Inesoft programs in the same time..it takes at least 4 seconds to starts ring. but now only S2U2 its only 1 sec.

Guys I'm using 1.19.831 stock ROM, applied ONLY Slider hotfix from HTC, ringing with mp3 file (around 900kb size) and do these tweaks in HDtweak and Advanced Config 3.3:
Incoming ring delay = no;
Battery icon in phone menu = no;
Filesystem cache: enabled
Filesystem cache size: 8 mb;
File system filter chace: 131072 sectors;
Glyph cahce: 64 kb;
The delay is around 1.5 ring BEFORE it start ringing. 1 ring before display answer slider. I'm not 100% sure if all of above settings have any connection with the problem, but with these one --> a whole 1 ring delay is gone away...

No email or sms audible alerts in standby

I hope i am not posting something which others have already posted i have seen this issue on the touch diamon2 aka raphael but not posted for the touch pro 2.
When i receive an email or sms and the phone is in standby i dont get an audible alert tone just vibrate unless the screen is on and this drains the battery.
I noticed that a fix was released for the diamond 2 but this will not work on the touch pro 2.
I have brought this to the attention of HTC and i am told in development. I have tried the registry tweaks but still no luck.
All that happens when phone is in standby it vibrates but no audible alert,

do you use HD TWEAK? and have you set the booster audio to the maximum? because ive had the same issue and unistalling hd tweak ive solved...

no sound
thanks for the reply do not used hd tweak , its on a vodafone stock rom . where can i set booseter audio to maximum. many thanks

sl_uk2 said:
where can i set booseter audio to maximum.
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with hd tweak..

Hmm I've got exactly same problem as you. No new SMS sound while in standby.
Yup I've done couple of tweaks probably one too many but which one.
Oh and I've not installed HD tweak....

no sms sound
Does anyone think this might be a registry tweak or is it a fault with the device. when i looked on htc they seemed to have the same issue with the touch diamond 2 . unfortunately the fix does not work on the touch pro2

I'd vote for registry, as everything was playing well begore my play with tweaking.

no sound
i tried a clear memory
and after still did not work - any ideas
fine during the day when phone on my belt but big problem at night

I don't have this problem at all? Maybe a stupid question, but did you enable a new SMS or email sound in the settings tab?

no sound in standby
my sounds works fine provided the screen is on the problem is when the phone goes in to standby or sleep mode

same problem here.. phone receives sms fine when it is on or when screen is just turned off with sound alerts. but once its been left in standby for a few hours the only alert i get is a the blinking green light when a sms comes in.. hopefully this will be fixed in the future roms
one of the workarounds is to enable smswakeup in the registry, some people have had success with this

cant use mute/speaker/contacts/ or anything when on a phone call..

so yeah, when im on a phone call, i cant seem to press anything. i cant turn on mute or hit speaker or even end call and keypad
anybody got any ideas whats wrong?
also this is only the problem when im on a phone call

duyx817 said:
so yeah, when im on a phone call, i cant seem to press anything. i cant turn on mute or hit speaker or even end call and keypad
anybody got any ideas whats wrong?
also this is only the problem when im on a phone call
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Make sure you have "Tap time" off in bsb tweaks. Assuming you have bsb tweaks, which seems to be causing this issue. Don't forget to soft reset.

secano said:
Make sure you have "Tap time" off in bsb tweaks. Assuming you have bsb tweaks, which seems to be causing this issue. Don't forget to soft reset.
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i was having the same issue, and this solved it.
thanks, Secano!

Yup, this issue comes from BsB Tweaks.

thanks! it fixed it

That was it BSB Tweaks
thanks so much everyone here is absolutely incredible! in BSB changed the 20 to 0 and everything started working prefectly (after twenty unchecked voicemails later lol) a little off the subject but wanted to Thank everyone here for all their hard work and kindness! because of this site and everyones hard work time and effort has made me grown to love smart phones pocket pcs and the hobby and enjoyment of enhancing them my wallpaper says its not just my phone its my life so so very true hats off to XDA and all their members for everything they do !!!