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Could it be that Rogers is finally rolling out the 3G network in the 604/778
area? I heard the GTA would be first... well no surprise there,
but I figure these blips of the 'G' icon maybe hardware setup and testing
during the wee hours as to avoid making people go "OH GEE, IT'S FINALLY
A G'Thang".
Anyone else see that 'G' pop up after 2AM starting this week?
AE!
I presume that you mean "3G" or "U" or "H", not "G" (which means "GPRS"). Yes, Ottawa is now live as well (finally). Although, I am not too impressed with the signal strength. My office is about 500 metres from a cell site and I get four solid bars with GSM, only one or two with UMTS. I drove all over the west part of Ottawa quite a bit yesterday and never saw it go above two bars. Is this what we have to look forward to with UMTS, or is it just that not all of the cell towers are lit up yet?
John
AquiEsta! said:
Could it be that Rogers is finally rolling out the 3G network in the 604/778
area? I heard the GTA would be first... well no surprise there,
but I figure these blips of the 'G' icon maybe hardware setup and testing
during the wee hours as to avoid making people go "OH GEE, IT'S FINALLY
A G'Thang".
Anyone else see that 'G' pop up after 2AM starting this week?
AE!
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Woohoo!! Where in the 604 are you?
johnburn said:
I presume that you mean "3G" or "U" or "H", not "G" (which means "GPRS"). Yes, Ottawa is now live as well (finally). Although, I am not too impressed with the signal strength. My office is about 500 metres from a cell site and I get four solid bars with GSM, only one or two with UMTS. I drove all over the west part of Ottawa quite a bit yesterday and never saw it go above two bars. Is this what we have to look forward to with UMTS, or is it just that not all of the cell towers are lit up yet?
John
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Yes G as in 3G. My handset's OS ROM displays "G" instead of "U" for 3G.
Here in Vancouver they don't have it set up and working yet but I did see
the "G" blip on and off after 2AM this week. I confirmed with Rogers that
they are planning a 3G roll out in June '07 so this just maybe it but I'm not
holding my breath.
AE!
j0dan said:
Woohoo!! Where in the 604 are you?
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When the G showed up I was in Coquitlam and in Vancouver.
AE!
AquiEsta! said:
When the G showed up I was in Coquitlam and in Vancouver.
AE!
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I think the "G" means GPRS, NOT 3G...I get the G all the time
tallshorty said:
I think the "G" means GPRS, NOT 3G...I get the G all the time
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As far as I know on my handset the "G" is for 3G as in UMTS and the "E" is for
the Edge. I have always seen the E showing on my handset but this week
the G has popped up for a few seconds here and there after 2AM. When I'm
in Japan all I see is the G icon and there's no GSM or GPRS on SoftBank.
AE!
G is GPRS... Why would it be any different on your handset? Maybe you're roaming out of your edge coverage and hitting GPRS only territory.
Get happy when you see 3G/U/H.
airjer said:
G is GPRS... Why would it be any different on your handset? Maybe you're roaming out of your edge coverage and hitting GPRS only territory.
Get happy when you see 3G/U/H.
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Could be the OS ROM that I'm using isn't "stock".
AE!
no G = GPRS no question sorry! 3G = UTMS H = HSDPA this is a well known fact check your carriors information just to check. What rom are you running? If its a newer WM6 it like duttys rom you have in your sig it will show 3G or H for UTMS and HSDPA
Also the radio version has something to do with what icon is shown for what but all the newer ones should show 3G or U or H
G = GPRS
E = EDGE
3G/U = UTMS
H = HSDPA
Seems to me that you dropped to GPRS for a few minutes not to 3G
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no G = GPRS no question sorry! 3G = UTMS H = HSDPA this is a well known fact check your carriors information just to check. What rom are you running? If its a newer WM6 it like duttys rom you have in your sig it will show 3G or H for UTMS and HSDPA
Also the radio version has something to do with what icon is shown for what but all the newer ones should show 3G or U or H
G = GPRS
E = EDGE
3G/U = UTMS
H = HSDPA
Seems to me that you dropped to GPRS for a few minutes not to 3G
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Thats right, this is the behaviour I've seen as well.
G = GPRS (2.5G, about 50-60kbit/sec)
E = EDGE ("2.75G", about 100-200kbit/sec)
3G or U = UTMS (3G, about 300-400kbit/sec)
H = HSDPA ("3.5G", about 1+mbit/sec)
If you really want to confirm if its 3G or not, switch your phone to WCDMA-only mode in the phone settings. If you don't get a signal, it means no 3G. Or conversely, switch your phone to GSM-only mode (this limits the phone to GPRS/EDGE), and if you are still getting the "G", it means that it is GPRS and NOT 3G.
austinsnyc said:
no G = GPRS no question sorry! 3G = UTMS H = HSDPA this is a well known fact check your carriors information just to check. What rom are you running? If its a newer WM6 it like duttys rom you have in your sig it will show 3G or H for UTMS and HSDPA
Also the radio version has something to do with what icon is shown for what but all the newer ones should show 3G or U or H
G = GPRS
E = EDGE
3G/U = UTMS
H = HSDPA
Seems to me that you dropped to GPRS for a few minutes not to 3G
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Well, that's is weird because I swear (sometimes quite rudely ) that the
last time I was in Japan for a week my X01HT was showing the G icon all the
time. At first I didn't think anything of it because I had a dog's breakfast of
a setup on my handset and this and that was either sort of working or not
at all. So now I guess I will check the icons out more closely when I return
to Japan.
AE!
Not trying to start any problems with my first posting but, The 3G icon on my touch hd has change a few times during since I purchased it, Does anyone know if this has been caused by any changes with EDGE.
What do you mean by has changed a few times? You never got 3G in New York did you?
The 850mhz bandwidth was converted from 2G to 3G. http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=2195
"AT&T is apparently changing the 2G and EDGE band, from its current 850Mhz to the weaker 1900Mhz. What that means, is that devices without 3G capabilities, like the original iPhone, will have to cope with the reduced coverage that the new 1900Mhz band has. In the other hand, devices supporting 3G networks like the AT&T Fuze, Tilt, Epix etc, will only benefit from this upgrade, as the 850Mhz band provides much better coverage, especially indoors."
Are you really getting a 3G signal in NYC? If that's the case I'm buying one
My Edge (E)icon has turned to G on about 20 occasions since purchase two week ago.Its not a steady G but will last about two minutes and then goes back to E
Interesting that you posted this. I am using my THD in NYC and NJ areas with T-Mobile USA. I have also noticed that the "E" icon on my THD had changed to "G" at some areas in NYC. But I have not noticed any difference in the data speed.
I just thought that my phone is able to acknowledge the T-Mobile 3G signal, but does not have to facility to access it. I do not know the technicalities behind it.
Isn't the "G" icon for a slower connection than EDGE? i.e. GPRS
yes!!!! now we have firm confirmation that touch hd is capable of 1G and 2G (EDGE)
buggybug0 said:
yes!!!! now we have firm confirmation that touch hd is capable of 1G and 2G (EDGE)
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That is fricken HILARIOUS...!!!
bugsykoosh said:
The 850mhz bandwidth was converted from 2G to 3G. http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=2195
"AT&T is apparently changing the 2G and EDGE band, from its current 850Mhz to the weaker 1900Mhz. What that means, is that devices without 3G capabilities, like the original iPhone, will have to cope with the reduced coverage that the new 1900Mhz band has. In the other hand, devices supporting 3G networks like the AT&T Fuze, Tilt, Epix etc, will only benefit from this upgrade, as the 850Mhz band provides much better coverage, especially indoors."
Are you really getting a 3G signal in NYC? If that's the case I'm buying one
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What this means is that us in the usa better hope that we can enable 3G on the HD soon.
ya. even if tmobile does require both bands, one for down and one for up, it'd be nice if only 1 workded (down) and we were able to at least be able to DL quickly or something. any speed boost is better than none
Just to throw it out there:
Don't know if it is 3G but my "E" changed to "G" on few occasions, for few minutes here in LA, CA (T-mobile). I didn't sample the connection speed, however; thus, wasn't able to tell any difference with the download speed. Edge is good enough for my usage, tbh.
--cheers
aabye said:
Just to throw it out there:
Don't know if it is 3G but my "E" changed to "G" on few occasions, for few minutes here in LA, CA (T-mobile). I didn't sample the connection speed, however; thus, wasn't able to tell any difference with the download speed. Edge is good enough for my usage, tbh.--cheers
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G = gprs 1G which is not 3G and it's slower than Edge 2G....
When I look at the G settings
Its says GPRS,3G
aabye said:
Just to throw it out there:
Don't know if it is 3G but my "E" changed to "G" on few occasions, for few minutes here in LA, CA (T-mobile). I didn't sample the connection speed, however; thus, wasn't able to tell any difference with the download speed. Edge is good enough for my usage, tbh.
--cheers
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You guys...these are the icons you'd expect to see on your HD for GSM coverage in order of speed:
G - Normal GPRS data
E - Enhanced Edge data
3G - 3G coverage
H - HSDPA, 3G turns to HSDPA on some networks while downloading data then switches back to 3G a few seconds after data use.
If you are seeing a G on the top bar, it means the HD is in the slowest GPRS data rate mode.
Thanks for the clarification, guys; I thought so. Oh well, no need for wishful thinking, then. 2G or not 2G...blah, curse you Hamlet!
--'night
Matterhorn said:
You guys...these are the icons you'd expect to see on your HD for GSM coverage in order of speed:
G - Normal GPRS data
E - Enhanced Edge data
3G - 3G coverage
H - HSDPA, 3G turns to HSDPA on some networks while downloading data then switches back to 3G a few seconds after data use.
If you are seeing a G on the top bar, it means the HD is in the slowest GPRS data rate mode.
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max speed technically...(at least in Germany)
GSM:
G --> 56kps (0,05MBit/s)
E --> 256kps (0,25Mbit/s)
UMTS:
3G --> 384kps (0,38Mbit/s)
HSDPA --> 3,6; 7,2; 14.4 Mbit!!! (depending on operator) --> sometimes called 3.5G
LTE (long term evolution) --> 4G (Generation)
coming in 2010 from 25Mbit onwards
using opera, just for surfing, i think EDGE is enough. (without using flash in opera)
regards
irm
p.s. @galaxys: the old analog network is to be considered as the 1st generation; GSM (incl. EDGE) is the 2nd generation. EDGE is some sort of speed upgrade like HSDPA for UMTS.
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Blacqsmith said:
Its says GPRS,3G
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Your saying that it said 3G on the top of your screen not just G? If so can you post what rom/radio you are using?
You can find this in settings/system/device information
Blacqsmith said:
Its says GPRS,3G
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Is this on the top bar or is it the popup network setting bubble? Take a pic for us...
There is a setting, probably hidden and changable via Advance Config and/or HD Tweak where if a network has 3G capability then it shows "<network> - 3G" (I disabled it via one of them)
This is regardless of whether your phone itself can handle the 3G network, which in the case of Touch HD it cannot as the device does not support the frequency of US 3G bands
Mine shows "O2 UK - 3G" for this reason regardless of whether it says G, E, 3G or H at the top of the screen.
Additionally, the "generation" things are as follows:
- - GSM - 1G
G - GPRS - 2G
E - EDGE - 2.5G
3G - UMTS - 3G (surprise surprise)
H - HSDPA - 3.5G
I have
latest radio of 2.14.50.04 and WM - ChuckyDroid
SkinoEVO rom for android.
When it shows 3G I dont get network at all. It only works when it shows H or sometimes when it show E.
I dont know whats the difference. 3G should work right coz i am subscribed to it. I might sound dumb but I just dont get it?
while playing youtube H would change to 3G and then youtube will stop throwing error..no network connection.
Any suggestions please. and i dont know if this would help. I am located in Houston Texas -USA
it could be that have a short outage when the mode changes ...
i never see E ... only H , or G , very rarely 3G ... and in my experience , transition is smooth , even to/from wifi
nadeemhannan said:
I have
latest radio of 2.14.50.04 and WM - ChuckyDroid
SkinoEVO rom for android.
When it shows 3G I dont get network at all. It only works when it shows H or sometimes when it show E.
I dont know whats the difference. 3G should work right coz i am subscribed to it. I might sound dumb but I just dont get it?
while playing youtube H would change to 3G and then youtube will stop throwing error..no network connection.
Any suggestions please. and i dont know if this would help. I am located in Houston Texas -USA
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H is hedge, 3g is...3g E is edge. This symbole are used in france for exemple. But i don't know if it's same in usa.
l_endormi said:
H is hedge, 3g is...3g E is edge. This symbole are used in france for exemple. But i don't know if it's same in usa.
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Correction..
H is HSPDA which is faster than 3G and it's not hedge => More info
3G is 3rd Generation Network which is faster than Edge => More info
E is Edge also known as Enhanced GPRS => More info
G is GPRS => More info
There are more... but those are generally the most known..
Correct me if i'm wrong.
I get
G
2G
3G -- rarely
H
white-energy said:
Correction..
H is HSPDA which is faster than 3G and it's not hedge => More info
3G is 3rd Generation Network which is faster than Edge => More info
E is Edge also known as Enhanced GPRS => More info
G is GPRS => More info
There are more... but those are generally the most known..
Correct me if i'm wrong.
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Really sorry And i think you're right ^^
i cant get any of those just the bars with no letters no internet connection but i can get 3g on windows someone please help
nadeemhannan said:
I have
latest radio of 2.14.50.04 and WM - ChuckyDroid
SkinoEVO rom for android.
When it shows 3G I dont get network at all. It only works when it shows H or sometimes when it show E.
I dont know whats the difference. 3G should work right coz i am subscribed to it. I might sound dumb but I just dont get it?
while playing youtube H would change to 3G and then youtube will stop throwing error..no network connection.
Any suggestions please. and i dont know if this would help. I am located in Houston Texas -USA
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A local friend of mine has this problem also.
No data connectivity when 3G is shown, only on EDGE or H. This is with a PPP build.
I switch him to an RMNET build, and his data works beautifully. But no auto backlight, g-sensor, or any of the other stuff that works in the evo kernel but not the nexus.
Here is the weird part - the software on our phones is IDENTICAL. Same Radio, same WM ROM, same android build, I even copied my android data stores to his phone, and it still does it.
Any clue, other than defective phone?
Mine does the same. Randomly drops the data connection and only way to get it back on is to go into settings/networks and disable and reenable the Mobile network connection. Starting to look at other builds as when you call someone it randomly crashes the phone app and you cant make any calls, only solution is to reboot...oh and the flash flashes before the camera actually takes a photo lol
H = HSPDA = 3.75G DATA -> Usually 7.2mbps (This is fastest normal data connection, sometimes along with voice)
3G = 3G UMTS DATA (old) -> Usually 384kbps (You will very rarely get this)
E = Edge = 2G DATA -> Usually 230.8kbps (You will get this when 3g signal is low)
G = GPRS (old) Usually 80kbps (You will get this when you are talking on 2g network)
Data rates are typical for HD2
You will sometimes get simultaneous 3G voice and data and sometimes not, depending on operator and location. (If your current location can't support simultaneous voice and data, you will see G icon when you are talking on the phone or have just hang up) You won't get simultaneous voice and data on 2G network. When on H, you "may" get HSUPA (high speed upload) but it won't have notification.
I think its the hardware rather than ROMs
I think its the phone not the software. RMNET and PPP thing is correct. I did tried one build with RMNET and dataconnection was fast but had lot of drops. So i took on PPP.
I tried almost all ROMS, Darkstone, Nexus, Hyperdriod, Dexters, MdeeJay's and dont remember others.. All of them gave same issue..when it shows 3G its always "No network".
So, i guess i have to deal with it.
But it would be good to find out how many different Tmobile HD2 models are in USA (hardware perspective). I heard the earlier one's have different antenna which received radio(AM/FM) compare to newer models. And even some change of LCD / OLED..something which i couldnt understand at all.
Well, Thanks guys for sharing your thoughts.
memin1857 said:
H = HSPDA = 3.75G DATA -> Usually 7.2mbps (This is fastest normal data connection, sometimes along with voice)
3G = 3G UMTS DATA (old) -> Usually 384kbps (You will very rarely get this)
E = Edge = 2G DATA -> Usually 230.8kbps (You will get this when 3g signal is low)
G = GPRS (old) Usually 80kbps (You will get this when you are talking on 2g network)
Data rates are typical for HD2
You will sometimes get simultaneous 3G voice and data and sometimes not, depending on operator and location. (If your current location can't support simultaneous voice and data, you will see G icon when you are talking on the phone or have just hang up) You won't get simultaneous voice and data on 2G network. When on H, you "may" get HSUPA (high speed upload) but it won't have notification.
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Your response, while informative, has no bearing on this thread.
We are not asking what each letter stands for, as so many keep so helpfully responding to inform of us.
We need to know why, when connected to a 3G network, we get NO data connectivity, but do get it when connected to EDGE or HSPDA.
Also, your line about rarely getting UMTS is wrong, in the vast majority of the continental US, it is still the predominant wireless signal.
i a euro tab with simple mobile and i used to see the letter E where my network is and today i see a letter G. what does that means?
E: Edge
g: Gprs
The letter G stands for GPRS - i.e. very slow data connection
The E your used to seeing is for EDGE, which is a slightly faster data connection.
Occasionally, assuming your network supports it, you will see an H, which stands for HSPA which is the 3G we all know and love.
As to why your showing a G today and not an E like usual, perhaps you are in a low signal area?
Have you changed modems/roms? Some modems do not support the appropriate bands and result in very weak or no signal.
All else fails, a good old reboot might do the trick too.
Hope this helped.
thank you all
i think i was in a bad area today,but now i'm back home and E is back and the connection is better, thank you all.
E=EDGE, a low speed data frequency. G=GSM, the voice frequencies for phones with sim cards.
zozodouce said:
i think i was in a bad area today,but now i'm back home and E is back and the connection is better, thank you all.
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hi you may try to set it to WCDMA
by clicking on settings >> wireless and network >> mobile network then
click on network mode and set it to WCDMA if your network supports it and you'll get 3G faster than edge and gprs
alterbridge86 said:
Occasionally, assuming your network supports it, you will see an H, which stands for HSPA which is the 3G we all know and love.
Hope this helped.
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Mine differentiates between UMTS (I think) and HSPA, by showing a '3G' or a 'H' respectively. All in all five levels (in order of increasing speed):
nothing
G
E
3G
H
How do I know if my 3G is working? (Tmobile US, HD2, WP7, Leo70, very new just flashed it) What I am basically is wondering is how can I tell if my 3G is on? I do not have a data plan on my phone, due to the fact that I am always at school so I can always be on WIFI so I have no need for it. The Wifi works perfectly I just want to know if my 3G is working bc if I look at the signal it has signal but has no letters beside it like "3G" "E" etc... any help??
THANK YOU!
If you do not have a data plan no "H" "3G" or "E" icon will show up.
An easy way to test this is if you turn off your Wi-Fi and then try to load a website, if it doesnt load, no data.
i get that but what im wondering if the fact when i was running wm6.5 i had 3g written at the top by the signal bars and now there is nothing??
If you setup the APN correctly then it will establish a data connection with T-mobile whether you have a data plan or not.. When you install WP7 rom it wont have the apn set.. you have to do that manually... Also if you turned off Data in the cellular menu it wont show E/3G/H..
Some Advice if your not using the DATA then in the Cellular Menu turn off 3G and switch to 2G like that it uses less battery compared to trying to stay connected to Tmobiles 3G
T-Mobiles main apn: epc.tmobile.com or (for the proxy) wap.voicestream.com
I've just loaded a Win Phone 7 rom onto my HTC on vodafone.
On Win6.5 I used to get G, E, 3G, 3G+ as symbols at the top of the screen.
In Win 7 my 3G toggle is on, but all I get is G or H??
Is G = 3G in this instance because the toggle is on and H = 3G+ or am I only getting slow connections (i.e. really G=gprs and H is edge)? The browser speed seems OK, but.....
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I've just loaded a Win Phone 7 rom onto my HTC on vodafone.
On Win6.5 I used to get G, E, 3G, 3G+ as symbols at the top of the screen.
In Win 7 my 3G toggle is on, but all I get is G or H??
Is G = 3G in this instance because the toggle is on and H = 3G+ or am I only getting slow connections (i.e. really G=gprs and H is edge)? The browser speed seems OK, but.....
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If you get either G or H thats good... G is basic GSM and H is faster 3G
H is HSPDA+
G is GSM
Finally An Answer For You....
In WP7, go into Settings. Tap Cellular (your carrier in this case T-Mobile) should be displayed.
Tap the 3G Connection setting to it turns on. And you're done. If you want to see if you have 3G or whatever connection at any given moment you can lock the screen and turn it back on to see the connection status in the upper left corner.
A simpler way, is like on the WM6.5 world...tap the very top portion of the screen (where the taskbar would be in WM6.5). Your battery, time, and connections status will drop down.
Voila!
hakuchi18v said:
If you get either G or H thats good... G is basic GSM and H is faster 3G
H is HSPDA+
G is GSM
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Sir, just fyi: "G" means GPRS on a GSM network. HSDPA is still GSM, but with higher rates. "E" menas EDGE and has lower rates compared with HSDPA but hight compared with GPRS.
When you has G means your network is slow, about 1.5Mbps, when E it's quite OK,3.5Mbps and when H or 3G your network has higher rates 7.2Mbps or +
Hope it helps
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Sir, just fyi: "G" means GPRS on a GSM network. HSDPA is still GSM, but with higher rates. "E" menas EDGE and has lower rates compared with HSDPA but hight compared with GPRS.
When you has G means your network is slow, about 1.5Mbps, when E it's quite OK,3.5Mbps and when H or 3G your network has higher rates 7.2Mbps or +
Hope it helps
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oh I know.. I realized it after I posted and reread it.. but then again in most cases barebones GPRS isnt really noticed since it jumps to edge right away
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