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Hi there,
I am new to the sat nav scene; really need one that is as portable as my mobile so as it is upgrade time I thought it best to kill 2 birds with one stone.
I’m looking for info on how you installed tom tom on your mda iii compact from tmobile. I’m going for the one without co-pilot so do I simply need to order the software from tom tom and which type? And what is the set-up process like in terms of difficulty?
Thanx 4 your help…
Mikolo
It works
You would need to order TomTom Navigator. The PDA-Version is called "Navigator".
Since you already have a GPS receiver inside the MDA Compact III it would be enough to get the "TomTom NAVIGATOR 6 - Software & Maps of Western Europe on DVD" - Package. I don't know if it is possible to get one map only -- let's say UK. You have to look that up on the website www.tomtom.com. They have a section where you can buy and download maps. This would be cheaper than ordering the DVD but I don't know if you still need to buy the Navigator software itself. (Also check out Amazon.)
To store the map(s) on the device you will need a microSD memory card. Depending on the size of your map get a card with enough memory and keep in mind that you perhaps want to have some free space left to store other things on it ...
If you ever installed software, it will not be any more difficult to install TomTom. Copy your map to the Storage Card. You must activate the map via www.ttcode.com once before you can use it. When setting up GPS in TomTom, I set it to: "Other NMEA GPS", 57600 baud, COM4
Which COM-port to use can be seen in Start -> Settings, System tab -> GPS
The port that is displayed there should be selected in TomTom. And I also think, 4800 baud may do it as well.
As far as I am concerned, TomTom works just fine on the MDAc3 and setting it up is easy.
One final remark: According to my information T-Mobile UK does not sell the Wi-Fi version of the device where T-Mobile NL does sell it WITH Wi-Fi. I don't know if you care about that. Just wanted to mention it.
EvilPati said:
You would need to order TomTom Navigator. The PDA-Version is called "Navigator".
Since you already have a GPS receiver inside the MDA Compact III it would be enough to get the "TomTom NAVIGATOR 6 - Software & Maps of Western Europe on DVD" - Package. I don't know if it is possible to get one map only -- let's say UK. You have to look that up on the website www.tomtom.com. They have a section where you can buy and download maps. This would be cheaper than ordering the DVD but I don't know if you still need to buy the Navigator software itself. (Also check out Amazon.)
To store the map(s) on the device you will need a microSD memory card. Depending on the size of your map get a card with enough memory and keep in mind that you perhaps want to have some free space left to store other things on it ...
If you ever installed software, it will not be any more difficult to install TomTom. Copy your map to the Storage Card. You must activate the map via www.ttcode.com once before you can use it. When setting up GPS in TomTom, I set it to: "Other NMEA GPS", 57600 baud, COM4
Which COM-port to use can be seen in Start -> Settings, System tab -> GPS
The port that is displayed there should be selected in TomTom. And I also think, 4800 baud may do it as well.
As far as I am concerned, TomTom works just fine on the MDAc3 and setting it up is easy.
One final remark: According to my information T-Mobile UK does not sell the Wi-Fi version of the device where T-Mobile NL does sell it WITH Wi-Fi. I don't know if you care about that. Just wanted to mention it.
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Hi EvilPati
Thanx for the very useful information. I checked with Tom Tom site and can get NAVIGATOR 6 - Software & regional maps on memory card, Smart & easy navigation on your PDA/mobile phone for £68.42 then I’ll order the T-Mobile MDA Compact III without Co-pilot.
But I’m a bit worried about the Tom Tom version because when ordering you have to a list of MDAs from T-Mobile and the list does not include MDA Compact III.
It lists
• MDA Compact
• MDA III
• MDA PRO
Does this make any difference?
I am not too fused about Wi-Fi but still think its handy though…
Regards
Mikolo
Tom Tom 6 runs very well on my MDAC3.
Regards
I think it does not make any difference because the operating system platform is Windows Mobile 5 or Windows Mobile 2003 SE and both of them are supported by TomTom Navigator 6.
I have installed TomTom v6.0 on a T-Mobile MDA Compact 3 myself and it runs just fine.
Just get a microSD and copy the content of the TomTom memory card to it and I am pretty sure it will work. TomTom is great and the MDAC3 is a sweet device. Go for it.
Hi all.
I have an MDA compact 3 and I am having difficulty getting tomtom navigator 5 to communicate with the built in GPS. I would be gratefull if someone could enlighten me how to set this up......or point me in the direction of a tutorial.
Thank you in anticipation.
Tony.
How to set up GPS in TomTom 5
Similar to my answer from post #2:
First, you have to check to which COM-port the internal GPS receiver of your device is assigned to. Go to: Start -> Settings, System tab -> GPS
Set "GPS program port:" to COM4 (this is the default, other ports might also work).
In TomTom set your GPS settings to
"Other NMEA GPS"
"GPS baud rate:" 57600 or 4800 (both should work)
"GPS is connected to:" COM4 (from system GPS settings)
TomTom is sometimes picky when radio of the device is switched off. TomTom will show "No GPS device!" and "Flight mode". In this case, TomTom might not be able to access the GPS receiver.
EvilPati said:
You would need to order TomTom Navigator. The PDA-Version is called "Navigator".
Since you already have a GPS receiver inside the MDA Compact III it would be enough to get the "TomTom NAVIGATOR 6 - Software & Maps of Western Europe on DVD" - Package. I don't know if it is possible to get one map only -- let's say UK. You have to look that up on the website www.tomtom.com. They have a section where you can buy and download maps. This would be cheaper than ordering the DVD but I don't know if you still need to buy the Navigator software itself. (Also check out Amazon.)
To store the map(s) on the device you will need a microSD memory card. Depending on the size of your map get a card with enough memory and keep in mind that you perhaps want to have some free space left to store other things on it ...
If you ever installed software, it will not be any more difficult to install TomTom. Copy your map to the Storage Card. You must activate the map via www.ttcode.com once before you can use it. When setting up GPS in TomTom, I set it to: "Other NMEA GPS", 57600 baud, COM4
Which COM-port to use can be seen in Start -> Settings, System tab -> GPS
The port that is displayed there should be selected in TomTom. And I also think, 4800 baud may do it as well.
As far as I am concerned, TomTom works just fine on the MDAc3 and setting it up is easy.
One final remark: According to my information T-Mobile UK does not sell the Wi-Fi version of the device where T-Mobile NL does sell it WITH Wi-Fi. I don't know if you care about that. Just wanted to mention it.
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Thanx for that.
I am going to order the MDA compact III at the end of my contract which is in 9days time but I just wanted to ask about memory card.
I assume it comes with one, but as you mentioned earlier and I’m getting the impression I will need to get one or one a with a bigger capacity to store the tt6 and allow some extra space for other bits?
What size microSD memory card do you recommend?
Regards,
Mikolo
mikolo said:
Thanx for that.
I am going to order the MDA compact III at the end of my contract which is in 9days time but I just wanted to ask about memory card.
I assume it comes with one, but as you mentioned earlier and I’m getting the impression I will need to get one or one a with a bigger capacity to store the tt6 and allow some extra space for other bits?
What size microSD memory card do you recommend?
Regards,
Mikolo
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Biggest you can afford. At the moment 2gig is what I use without any problem. Don't be stingy on memory as this card is "burried"inside and below the sim card
Maybe you are 2 stops from dagenham
Please Mikolo...find the pun in this...
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Maybe you are 2 stops from dagenham
Please Mikolo...find the pun in this...
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sorry no need for that..
Anyway new development
Got my mda iii compact late last month and finally tried to install the tom tom 6 software eagerly last night but found navigator 6 came on an sd card not micro sd. So I dashed out in the snow to get the card but hit a little problem which meant the pda didn’t recognise the software but this was resolved on my 2nd attempt. At one stage I called Tom Tom tech support for help and they wouldn’t assist and I quote “mda compact iii is not compatible with navigator 6”. What do we know hey?
I’ve set up the COM ports as advised and it seems ok. I am yet to take it for a test drive but I’ll let you know how it goes.
Thanx for all your help guyz!
Tomtom 6.02 or even 6.03 will have the built-in gps receiver option.
Bear in mind please that this is both my first PDA, wnidows mobile device and satnav, newbie on 3 fronts here, dont assume I know anything at all and may have messed up settings trying to get it to work, I'll happily do a factory reset if it will help....
Anyway...
EvilPati said:
Similar to my answer from post #2:
First, you have to check to which COM-port the internal GPS receiver of your device is assigned to. Go to: Start -> Settings, System tab -> GPS
Set "GPS program port:" to COM4 (this is the default, other ports might also work).
In TomTom set your GPS settings to
"Other NMEA GPS"
"GPS baud rate:" 57600 or 4800 (both should work)
"GPS is connected to:" COM4 (from system GPS settings)
TomTom is sometimes picky when radio of the device is switched off. TomTom will show "No GPS device!" and "Flight mode". In this case, TomTom might not be able to access the GPS receiver.
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I have set my GPS programport to com4
I have tried with hardware port "none" and "com3"
Tried with baud rate of 4800 and 57600.
with auto manage on and oFF
I have set tomtom up with Nmea with baud at 4800 and 57600
and set the com port to "com4" and GPS.
I still get the No GPS device! message.
What is meant when EvilPati said "when radio of the device is switched off" and "TomTom might not be able to access the GPS receiver"
How do Find out if the fault is:
system set up (I've cocked up windows mobile v5)
Hardware (GPS is broken or not configured)
tomtom (I've not set it up right)
I've got the system over the internet, I've got 3 days left to change my mind (distance selling regs in the UK give you 7 days to change your mind) I want the GPS or it goes back.
Thanks
Egon
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Ignore me,
It works now.
God knows what I did differnt this time, musta looked at it funny and it felt sorry for me.
You guys musta scared it into working......
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No GPS Device!
glad to hear you sorted your gps problem, I'm having same. I have the HTC P3300 direct from HTC. can you tell me your settings?
fel699
Dunno what I did.
After messing up my memory card (Lost the maps, me stoopid ) I've just had to reinstall it. And it took an hour to sort out.
Right, first off, the signal inside any building is PANTS, you need to be out side for the device to get a good signal, after all it keeps telling you there is no signal.
Second.
be patient, it takes a while for it to get a lock, sometime it may take 2 mins (sometimes it's instant)
For several attempts with the above settings it failed
I changed stuff like com port to 9, changed the voice, did a soft reset.
Changed it all back again to com 4 and baud to 4800 (in tomtom and wm gps setting)
and second attempt it worked.
still no idea quite how it worked.
the trick is to be patient and be outside.
do it when your not in a hurry.
you can tell when its going to work, if you tap the "5 bar" thing that looks like a signal or battery meter at the bottom or right of your screen, it shows a new screen, tap the same bar meter and it will show a circle (compas), and a set of bars. if you have and dots on the compas, they're satalites. You need the bars to get 4/5 of the way up (just for a short while).
if I can help any more I will, but I'm busy for a few days so a reply may take a while.... sorry.
Tomtom v 6.030 on Tomtom site.
This version is supposed to correct start rapidity and built-in GPS drivers for our Artemis.
Can you help? I have just acquired a very small GPS receiver, the Holux GPSSlim 240, which is excellent and seems to work with my Varios II so far. It is fine with it's own GPS receiver checker and works very well with Google Map; the problem is Tom Tom 6 which has only twice seen the actual GPS receiver. When it has worked it appeared fine but I cannot get it to work again.
I have made 'GPS settings' available within settings (using Hermes fit4cat) and have succesfully BT paired the device (obviously) - the problem seems unique to Tom Tom 6. I have seen other posts and suggestions but they do not solve the problem.
Within WM5 settings/system - I have GPS program port: COM2, GPS hardware port: COM4 Baud: 57600, and the "Manage GPS automattically..." is ticked. Within Bluetooth Settings I have ticked 'serial port', and within 'COM Ports' I have the "Holux240" tied to COM2. I have also tried the program on Com Port 9 - Google map and the GPS Receiver Test app worki fine but TT6 seems not to see the GPS Receiver.
Any ideas would be most welcome - I am keen to try out TT6.
EDIT: Problem solved , after much searching of other sites I came back to this here and found that the issue with TT6 appears to be it's incompatibility with the WM5 setting "Manage GPS automatically (rec...)". I followed the instructions (from the link) which included turing this off and TT6 connected immediately! However, I have now found that Google Map, which previously worked consistently) will now not work at all.
My Conclusion: TT6 has problems with WM5 management of GPS via BT but Google Map seems to require it! Interestingly, the Holux GPSSlim 240 PPC software "GPS Receiver" seems happy with or without WM5 management of the GPS. I assume that Tom Tom will, in due course, issue a fix.
Thanks
tony.wheeler said:
EDIT: Problem solved , after much searching of other sites I came back to this here and found that the issue with TT6 appears to be it's incompatibility with the WM5 setting "Manage GPS automatically (rec...)". I followed the instructions (from the link) which included turing this off and TT6 connected immediately!
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Beat me to it! I actually have the exact same GPS with Tomtom6. That thing is tiny isn't it?
Problems Solved?
I have just updated TT6 to version 6.010 (simple overwrite of TomTom Navigator.exe) and it now appears to work OK with WM5 management of the GPS. That means I can now run 4 applications that all require GPS access and all seem to work simultaneously! - albeit memory allocation means they get a little slow....
I have just been running TT6 (ver 6.010), Google Map (PPC ver 1.0.0), MS Live Search (ver 1.0.2592.31374), and MoDaCo CameraAware (- all with GPS access working and managed by WM5. Each of the 4 apps now starts and automatically connects to the BT GPS receiver (TT6 even starts BT ok and connects within about 15 secs).
Settings to achieve this are:
WM5 BT - GPS Receiver partnership with Serial Port ticked, Receiver added to Outgoing port as Com 2 (secure connection not ticked).
GPS Settings - Program port set to Com 9, Hardware port set to Com 2 at 19200 (4800 is enough I believe), Access tab - tick in the box "Manage GPS ..."
TT6 - (Installed on micro SD Card) Holux GPSSlim 240 configured as "Other Bluetooth ..." on Com 2 (interestingly Com 9 will not work and I thought this was the one that should be used given WM5 management in my case).
Google Map - (Installed on PDA) Google map just connects so I do not know what port it is accessing on. Presumably it just searches [prts till it gets one that works. Interestingly Google Map will not work unless WM5 is allowed to manage the GPS connection.
Live Search - (Installed on micro SD Card) Works on either Com 2 or Com 9. Note: it appears that even though you can set the map cache (up to 8Mb) to the storage card that this setting is not saved so not sure where it is saving the cache (time will tell with memory available on the device).
MoDaCo CameraAware - (Installed on micro SD Card) works on both Com 2 and Com 9. Seems to work alongside TT6 - will report back.
Holux provide a "GPS Viewer" PPC application and that connects to the GPS receiver on either Com 2 or Com 9. Not sure all this is the way it should work but it seems OK for me.
Tony Wheeler
Vario II
Hi All, sorry for subjecting you yet again to a question about this but...
Orange have finally dmitted that the M700 has GPS, and has told me I can only use some rubbish called "Webraska" as my GPs program. I wish to use Memory Map, which I have installed. It wants me to set up the GPS, but I have no idea how to do it, and the useful people at Orange don't either.
Any chance any of you guys knows the settings?
Thanks
Orange are being deliberately obstructive, because Webraska will earn them a small fortune in data charges because each screen/page is downloaded via GPRS rather than being stored on the device.
But, have no fear! You can run any GPS aware navigation program as long as it has a configuration setting (another poster was having problesm with Route66 as apparently you can't configure the GPS port )
Memory Map ought to be able to pick up the GPS automatically, but if not, point it to COM9 with a baud rate of 57600 and all should be OK. Same for TomTom, Co-pilot etc.
Spot on - I had to point the system to Com9 as you mentioned and it found itself staight away. I tried Webraska, and by the time it knew where I was I had become bored and wandered off to make myself a cup of tea. Memory Map, while being extremely hungry for memory to store its maps, found me in seconds.
I don't know why Orange are being so obtuse - half of them don't even know the phone has GPS. The woman I spoke to thought I was asking about the GPRS until I told her the difference.
Thanks buddy!
NeilM said:
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But, have no fear! You can run any GPS aware navigation program as long as it has a configuration setting (another poster was having problesm with Route66 as apparently you can't configure the GPS port )
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route66 is working fine with GpsGate
i had the same trouble getting this going with TOM TOM.
use com port 9 and it works first time. takes a little while to pick up satalites though.
Not sure what the Com Port 9 issue is about.... when I look at the ports etc, there is a Com 9 BUT there is also a GPS port, I assume internally it "may" be com 9. However TT6.03 recognises the internal GPS "out of the box" and the baud rate seems to be a bit of a red herring, I've adjusted it up and down and tbh cannt see the differnce.
It all comes down to the way Windows Mobile handles GPS signals, and the version of WM on a device.
Windows Mobile V5 onwards uses a software distribution system called GPSID (GPS Intermediary Driver) which grabs the hardware port (in the Trinity this is COM9, and the Artemis COM4) and sends the signal back out via a selectable soft COM port (by default GPD1). Some apps could identify the software port automatically and connect, but TTN/Co-Pilot/Route66 were unable to initiate a connection, though were able to use an already opened port, as long as this was set for COM8
So, the GPS Settings applet could be set for COM9 Hardware, and COM8 Software ports. You could then set TomTom to COM9 and it would take an exclusive grab of the hardware, or allow another app to start on COM8, and TTN could be set to share COM8 successfully (complex or what )
Anyway, with the advent of WM5 AKU3 onwards and WM6, the way the GPSID works seems to have become a bit more logical. The GPS software driver still has to pick up COM9 (of course) but any GPS Application can now still be set to connect to COM9, and the GPSID will intercept the call and send the signal back out over COM9
So, TTN can now remain at 'GPS on COM9' and it will still allow other apps to share the signal.
The baud rate is not important in TTN, but some apps need the rates to match. The hardware side is set at 57600 but the GPSID is 115200; the actual data stream transferred is WAY below this (about 500Bd) so there is nothing to be gained by upping the settings.
Hi,
would like to know which port is for the internal GPS system, I deleted the pre installed tomtom navigator and try to install tomtom navigator6.0 This program prompt me for a GPS port and I don't know which one.
Could you help me?
Hi,
this is what works for me:
WM5: port 4, speed 4800, internal GPS receiver
WM6: port 5, speed 9600, Other NMEA receiver
In the settings: same data and check "automatic management" (or the like, I
have an italian OS)
Hope this can help
Mauro
With AP Touch Rom 3.0 on Google Maps I have to choose port 4 with 57600.
pumats said:
Hi,
this is what works for me:
WM5: port 4, speed 4800, internal GPS receiver
WM6: port 5, speed 9600, Other NMEA receiver
In the settings: same data and check "automatic management" (or the like, I
have an italian OS)
Hope this can help
Mauro
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via Settings->System->GPS I can select the com port on my T-Mobile Ameo DE
on TomTom you choose other NMEA receivers.
hi
in settings under external gps it asks for
programs .> gps program port ????
Hardware -> gps harware port -> i set it to com 4 57600
access - manage it autimatically is checked
and gps does not get any setting s in google maps
just says seeking sattleites ????
Hi.
In settings>system>external GPS:
GPS program port: WM5 -> com4, WM6 -> com5
Hardware : WM5 -> none, 4800, WM6 -> none, 9600
manage it automatically: checked
In TomTom (GPS status):
WM5: internal GPS, 4800, com4
WM6: other NMEA receiver, 9600, com5
These settings work for my device, hope it helps.
Mauro
On Google Maps and Delorme Maps I get "searching for satellite" when the settings are right, but it hasn't locked-on yet. When the settings are wrong, I almost instantly get an error message. So I'm guessing if you see "searching..." you have your settings right.
As for finding a signal, the achille's heel on this unit is locking on when you are inside (either a building or even some cars). Outside or inside my car it will lock on in 20-30 seconds, sometimes sooner. Inside my house or office it will fail 98% of the time. The sirf/star unit attached to my Palm will lock on inside my house - in the middle of the 1st floor - in under 20 seconds.
I think with all the trade-offs they had to make to get all 4 antennas to work together without interference, the signal strength on the internal GPS antenna got the short straw. I have top-notch strength on the cell and bluetooth antennas, so obviously they got top priority. I don't use wifi so I don't know how well it works, but the gps signal strength could use some work for the future X7502...
GPS, TomTom
I have a T-Mobile Ameo and recently I have installed TomTom Navigator 6.
when I start TomTom it takes between 5-20 minutes before it gets connected with a satellite.
Is this normal, or is there a problem..?
if not, what should I do to resolve this problem..?
grtzz,
Avicenna
Hi there,
I'm running TomTom6 (navigation) and Efficasoft GPS Utilities v1.2 (GPS-Tracking) on my MDA3 with WM6.1 from eplode. Everything works fine when it's running alone. But, when I'm running both at same time, only the first one which I started gets the GPS connection.
My GPS Settings are:
- Programs: GPS program port (none)
- Hardware: GPS hardware port (none) // Baud rate: (9600)
- Access: Manage GPS automatically (on)
I didn't try any other settings yet.
What I want to do, is running both at same time, so I can track the route and speed while using the navigation.
Does anyone has a solution...?
Thx Rossi
In the windows GPS settings don't split GPS correctly, you might need to use software like GPSGate (or maybe gpsproxy).
Thx, but where can I get this...?
Greets Rossi
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