Can someone help me understand if this is a general JJ issue, or a function of the AKU 3.2 Rom Update 1.90.96 (Radio 1.13.00). It's not identified in that thread:
Many of my JJ issues have been solved by turning off UMTS until I need it. My battery improvement is negligible (when measuring mA consumption), but the following used to manifest due to the phone's inability to switch between GSM and UMTS elegantly:
Calls frequently go to v.mail
Dialing results in 'Dialing...' message with no connection - or even worse I connect and other party can hear me even tho I believe it's not connected
Dialing results in 'This operation not allowed' or something like that
Several other issues I forget
All this went away when I turned off UMTS. My understanding is that UMTS and GSM are completely different functions, and the phone sees a UMTS signal and tries to switch to that. Unfortunately it's too weak and the phone does not know to give up and go back to GSM/GPRS. After around 15mins of battling, everything goes tits-up until I reset.
Is this something that everyone with moderate 3G/UMTS coverage experiences? Or is this a ROM/Radio version issue?
I have a very poor UMTS reception in my house and have the same problems. I have tried different radio roms. My current solution is just using GSM at my home and only UMTS at my workplace..
my too...
my case is similar. I had with radio 1.09 and now with 1.13. looks is a problem when you move between zones with umts and other only gprs and the phone gets crazy. I think is related new speed available form umts (1,8 and now 3.2) that are producing special situation in the device.
Thaks guys - more helpful than you know: I was considering a re-flash, and my JJ is SOOO customised I would have written off a week getting it all back into shape. The HSDPA change may also explain why I didn't have this issue with the first JJ in country in January, but am definitely having issues now.
craigiecraigie4 said:
Thaks guys - more helpful than you know: I was considering a re-flash, and my JJ is SOOO customised I would have written off a week getting it all back into shape. The HSDPA change may also explain why I didn't have this issue with the first JJ in country in January, but am definitely having issues now.
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If you reflash only your radio, you wont loose your data..
Hi
I'm experiencing a strange behaviour in the last few weeks.
If I am on the road or in an area where utms isn't avail everywhere, it happens often that my device turns on without interaction.
Does anybody else has this effect? I've read from other users in the forum, having the same problem, but no where in connection with the band switching.
LaroCroft said:
Hi
I'm experiencing a strange behaviour in the last few weeks.
If I am on the road or in an area where utms isn't avail everywhere, it happens often that my device turns on without interaction.
Does anybody else has this effect? I've read from other users in the forum, having the same problem, but no where in connection with the band switching.
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Have you tested this using Danielherreros Bandswitch application?
Mike
Can you please explain what you mean?
LaroCroft said:
Can you please explain what you mean?
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I merely suggest that application as a way of confirming that it is the band switching that is causing the device to turn on. By limiting it to certain bands only you could confirm whether it's the switching that is the cause.
You do not say if you are running any apps that would be using the connection - regardless of band.
Mike
I tested it already. I changed the phone settings from "any" to "gsm only". No switch on, only sometimes if I loose the signal completely.
I don't understand why this happens. Is that a radio problem?
ROM Version?
What is your ROM version?
I'm experiencing the same behavior, but just since I upgraded to the 2.11 HTC ROM.
When the device is sleeping, it sometimes turns on, and when the device is not sleeping, it sometimes turns on the backlight!
ROM is WM6 bepe
But I think the more important question is the Radio ROM version. I use the most resent version 1.41
I have my sgs for 2 weeks now. GSM disconnects around every 2 days.
At service mode (*#*#4636#*#* - Phone information) i can see this repport:
GSM disconnects:
====DATA=====
State: inactive
disconnected with last try
at 00:59
fail because No Error
The question is: why does this happen?
Is this an android issue or a hardware problem?
Any pointers?
Thanks in advance
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do you ever enter a building, subway, or some other location where the GSM becomes poor?
AllGamer said:
do you ever enter a building, subway, or some other location where the GSM becomes poor?
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That's not the problem.
Gsm disconnects just like that ,at home for instance. And when I notice that and try to reconnect (settings- wireless networks- mobile networks - networks operators) it doesnt find ANY of them.
Then I restart the phone and gsm network is back.
If I dont notice disconnection in time (so I can restart phone, people just cannot reach me....quite frustrating...
i see what you mean now.
yes, i've noticed that on mine too, but.... that's because i was fooling around with some new Apps Widgets settings i was testing to control the radio and data to save battery.
Did you install any new Apps recently that might cause that?
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That's not the problem.
Gsm disconnects just like that ,at home for instance. And when I notice that and try to reconnect (settings- wireless networks- mobile networks - networks operators) it doesnt find ANY of them.
Then I restart the phone and gsm network is back.
If I dont notice disconnection in time (so I can restart phone, people just cannot reach me....quite frustrating...
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do you have an old sim card? i had a 3g sim card that wasnt even 1 years old and replacing it fixed connectivity issues on my nexus 1 and i had a similar experience with my old htc magic
AllGamer said:
i see what you mean now.
yes, i've noticed that on mine too, but.... that's because i was fooling around with some new Apps Widgets settings i was testing to control the radio and data to save battery.
Did you install any new Apps recently that might cause that?
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Well I installed all kind of apps. but i have the feeling this problem was happening even before that.
And I dont need widgets to control data ( I think) because I set the sgs to use 2g networks only and I dont have apn configured( section is empty. Internet connec. only via wifi.
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do you have an old sim card? i had a 3g sim card that wasnt even 1 years old and replacing it fixed connectivity issues on my nexus 1 and i had a similar experience with my old htc magic
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Well, my sim card is VERY old (2002) and the carrier (Telfort) is roaming into another carrier's network (Kpn) with no extra costs of course like real roaming, but still roaming (I get the little "R" next to the signal strenght bars)
Anyway this never happened with the Nokia 5800xm running Symbian OS and using the same sim card...
Starting to get pissed of with Android...
With Symbian you hack or root or tweak because you want to, not because you NEED to like with Android....
And then you prob. get side effects...
Thank you guys for your time
I would get a new sim card if I were you. Every android phone that I have had seems to work better with a good 3g sim.
Get a new SIM card.
same problem, different phone
i have the same problem on kaiser with flashed android on it.
sim is 2 years old, and now suddenly this happened, tried differents sim cards, but the problem persists. My guess is, it is a software problem.
Maybe i will report when I flash original WM6.1 rom onto it, if you are interested in the result
btw, this happened about two days ago and because of this im buying galaxy s so i hope the problem will be gone with new phone
did you guys see this other topic?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=769582
anyone able to reproduce this issue?
Maranevim said:
i have the same problem on kaiser with flashed android on it.
sim is 2 years old, and now suddenly this happened, tried differents sim cards, but the problem persists. My guess is, it is a software problem.
Maybe i will report when I flash original WM6.1 rom onto it, if you are interested in the result
btw, this happened about two days ago and because of this im buying galaxy s so i hope the problem will be gone with new phone
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Why you think the problem will be gone if it's still android and I also got it with my sgs? Or are you counting on Froyo?
Yesterday I upgraded my sgs to froyo jpc with kies. I am new with Android but the post of Aery was so clear that i didnt resist: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=769400&highlight=froyo+upgrade
I did get stuck on reboot but could get out of it after applying a cache/data/factory reset on recovery mode (3 buttons)
Now I am being carefull with the 3rd party apps., and so far so good, no gsm disconnections .
Froyo is of course better that eclair but Android is still disappointing to me.
You flashed Android onto a WM device (i'm impressed); could you not teach me how to flash Symbian onto my SGS?
Voice dialing (over bluetooth or not) and proper connectivity control (network, data, gps and bluetooth) of android is years behind Symbian; and such a well written, light OS, it will just fly on a high-end hardware like the sgs; but that is an issue for another thread.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7938430#post7938430
Pls keep reporting..
AllGamer said:
did you guys see this other topic?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=769582
anyone able to reproduce this issue?
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I think indeed that's not the same issue. My problem is that the radio signal get turned off during inactivity. That's why I got connection back after reboot: radio signal gets turned on again; later I learned how to turn radio signal back on without rebooting, but that is just a remedy , no real solution.
Try to upgrade to froyo, make a factory reset and be carefull with 3rd party apps. With froyo you will need less interfering tools anyway
I dont thing that my old sim card is the problem, but i'll try to replace it anyway...but first things first
Btw dou you have 3g turned on? Cause I never...
Another mistery: When I have 3G on I see those bars (signal strenght) dancing and that "death grip" thing happening:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LROTHrTR92k
But when I have it on 2G only the bars doesnt move even if I strangle it with both hands.....
Please repport later how it's going...
I had the same issue, i sent mine back and got my money back, i had also tried with different simcards and resets and nothing worked.. so hopefully my new galaxy wont have this problem. Its strange that these problems are so rare though.. But as long i get it going ill be a happy man.
fourth day with JPC ( and 4 days after a factory reset) so far so good no disconnections . I think problem is gone...
Today just to be safe, I got a new sim card....the other one was too old anyway(8 years)
i have the same issue, for a few days i can't get 3g. i'm seriously wondering about sending back my sgs. i've ttried all the settings, changed my sim..nothing...begin to think it was a fullish thing to change Desire to SGS..
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i have the same issue, for a few days i can't get 3g. i'm seriously wondering about sending back my sgs. i've ttried all the settings, changed my sim..nothing...begin to think it was a fullish thing to change Desire to SGS..
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Well... this is not the same issue.
I have 3G (WCDMA) disabled. I only use 2G (GSM) and WIFI for data/internet connection.
I Dont have a data account, I dont need it therefore I disabled 3G in order to save battery.
If you do want to use 3G, just go to settings - wireless and network - mobile network settings - network mode and set auto-mode (GSM/WCDMA or 3G/2G)
If it doesn't work, apply a data/factory reset and try again.
And if it doesnt work, it's probably hardware related and you should return it or send it for repair.
My issue is more complicated; next to the fact that I dont want to use 3g, my carrier is roaming to another network and probably Android OS or the firmware cannot handle it properly.
Android is still premature and the "Samsung - Android integration" seems to need a lot of development as well.
It is just a shame that basic functions like proper connectivity control just wont cut it. And Google is not doing any good either.
And dont let me get started on the voice recognition issue......
Hardwarewise, the SGS is superior that htc desire.....I wonder how it would perform if running Symbian^3 OS or Meego.....
I get a great sound quality from the stock music player just by mixing the equalizer and using the music clarity effect...just great...better than any other device I tried.
And the OFFLINE Gps experience is just great as well: the combination SGS - Motonav - External Bluetooth gps device is working like a charm.
I wouldn't change my sgs just yet......
yesterday i was swiching sims to determine if is a sim fault and suddenly i have my 3g/h back. happy owner again. i've tried all to do this, from firmware upgrade to servide mode settings..i don't know why but i'm ok again...
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Well... this is not the same issue.
I have 3G (WCDMA) disabled. I only use 2G (GSM) and WIFI for data/internet connection.
I Dont have a data account, I dont need it therefore I disabled 3G in order to save battery.
If you do want to use 3G, just go to settings - wireless and network - mobile network settings - network mode and set auto-mode (GSM/WCDMA or 3G/2G)
If it doesn't work, apply a data/factory reset and try again.
And if it doesnt work, it's probably hardware related and you should return it or send it for repair.
My issue is more complicated; next to the fact that I dont want to use 3g, my carrier is roaming to another network and probably Android OS or the firmware cannot handle it properly.
Android is still premature and the "Samsung - Android integration" seems to need a lot of development as well.
It is just a shame that basic functions like proper connectivity control just wont cut it. And Google is not doing any good either.
And dont let me get started on the voice recognition issue......
Hardwarewise, the SGS is superior that htc desire.....I wonder how it would perform if running Symbian^3 OS or Meego.....
I get a great sound quality from the stock music player just by mixing the equalizer and using the music clarity effect...just great...better than any other device I tried.
And the OFFLINE Gps experience is just great as well: the combination SGS - Motonav - External Bluetooth gps device is working like a charm.
I wouldn't change my sgs just yet......
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Hello,
I know its been a long time since you wrote this thread but I just came by it!
I have the exact same problem with you (I had it since August) even now with the official froyo. I tried factory reset and no new apps (that could cause the problem) but it still disconnects randomly in GSM mode. However, when I have it on auto (gsm and wcdma) I have no issues. I just disconnect data from the power button in froyo. I am wondering if you ever found a solution..
Chryssa
Well, I am subscribed to this topic so I saw your post.
Good and bad news:
First the bad one: No solution yet, it keeps disconnecting IF I stay on "gsm only".
And the good (or a little better) news:
I noticed that on sgs, using "gsm only" or "gsm/wcdma (auto mode) makes no difference on battery consumption....
By the way, this is a Samsung issue, not really an Android one.
On a HTC Desire HD, you can use "gsm only" mode with no problems...
Thank you for your answer!
I noticed that about the battery too. So not too bad, I just have to keep it on auto mode then..
Same issue
Im having the same issue but in a optimus t the worst part is that i cant get service at all.. when i press change network preferred it wont change and when i try to press on turn on radio it wont work either....
Hi i use Touch Hd but i have a big problem my phone mostly unavailable I try a lot of solution but problem continiue. Open Wi-fi after drop signal , i click power button signal slowly drop . I try another Rom and Radio Rom, I bought a high-capacity battery but not fix my problem. I'm sorry for my bad English.. Please help
hi,
dropping calls, bad reception ... have the same,
as i know its common problem, you can read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=476139,
its probably hardware (mainboard), but i check forum every week in hope someone find a solution
this can have so many reasons, we would need further information.
what is your country and carrier and what band is that carrier on with gsm and umts? are you certain that the issue does not come from poor network coverage?
have you tried different band and network settings as suggested in the thread linked by twierdzenie?
twierdzenie said:
hi,
dropping calls, bad reception ... have the same,
as i know its common problem, you can read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=476139,
its probably hardware (mainboard), but i check forum every week in hope someone find a solution
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Okk budy i hope so i found the problem. This is battery drain problem . Pick up your phone and go to good reception area. Dont touch your phone only press by press home button ( home button because phone must vibrate) you will see signal drop slowly after battery drain up signal bars fine.
I close virtual button vibration and auto backlight ( i use Battery Power Light is 3. click and i try it)
I dont know how to close menu tab vibration this is mostly down my battery drain.
Chef_Tony said:
this can have so many reasons, we would need further information.
what is your country and carrier and what band is that carrier on with gsm and umts? are you certain that the issue does not come from poor network coverage?
have you tried different band and network settings as suggested in the thread linked by twierdzenie?
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Thank you for answer Chef_Tony. I'm from Turkey and i use network type auto - gsm/umts auto. i tried to choose only Gsm band ( close 3g ) phone turn to Edge and signal bars perfect but this is fake for me because actually phone is unavailable.
Sorry for my terrible english and thanks again
Hi all, this is my first post or thread, i came here cause i heard from ppl this is best site for asking questions about cell phones, i started reading allot this forum and wow did i enter the other world i really like and wanna participate in.
Srry for little intro and lets get back to topic. So i got my first "normal" android and got trouble with it. I am using Samsung galaxy s5 g900F (european) factory unlocked and T-mobile as carrier with 4.4.2 kitkat. I have a big problem with a data connection that keeps going off every 30sec to 5 min if i use option to search and auttoconnect on LTE/WCDMA/GSM option. I read forum but no1 is mentioning this model as problematic 1 so now i post thread about.
Does any1 know what could be problem and how to solve it. Sometimes my data connection comes back and sometimes it doesnt and i have to switch type of network to get back again online. All other options that don't include LTE auttoconnect work just fine, i tried to get another SIM from carrier but same problem, i tried to get another Phone since i work in hardware firm and still same problem on another device, both were same models.
I still didn't put any ROMs but i really consider doing it maybe l8r on, it is stock version.
Pls be genttle since this is first time i post, maybe i did it on wrong place but i did read rules and everything and i think i did it on right place.
Ty in advance.
I did have a slightly similar problem years ago - when in roaming my phone could not connect to anything. What helped was a change of simcard for a new model - after that all was good.
Since you did try your SIM on a different phone (same 900F?) I would advise you to try: first on a completely different brand and phone model - if you can.
If this does not solve your problem do shake your service provider a bit - they could have supplied you with two faulty SIM cards in a row - that can happen. Otherwise - maybe there is a stupid limitation in your service plan which is causing this. There is no - to my knowledge - ready answer to the problem you have described.
Best of luck and if you do solve it come back and post - it will be very useful to lots of people for sure
Cheers!
Too many variables. You haven't observed enough of a pattern yet or tried enough things to narrow it down a bit. It could just as easily be carrier side issues as a bug in the firmware not negotiating a new connection if the LTE signal is lost.
A number of people were having data disconnect issues and that was addressed in the 4.4.3 /4.4.4 update. So that is one option to consider. And you could open a support ticket with your carrier. That is hit and miss as to results, but sometimes tickets actually resolve issues.
There are also a number of apps that may mitigate or possibly even solve your issue. Have a look at 4G LTE Switch and LTE Discovery.
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Will try it today. Thanks for the help. Really appreciate it.
Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
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I did have a slightly similar problem years ago - when in roaming my phone could not connect to anything. What helped was a change of simcard for a new model - after that all was good.
Since you did try your SIM on a different phone (same 900F?) I would advise you to try: first on a completely different brand and phone model - if you can.
If this does not solve your problem do shake your service provider a bit - they could have supplied you with two faulty SIM cards in a row - that can happen. Otherwise - maybe there is a stupid limitation in your service plan which is causing this. There is no - to my knowledge - ready answer to the problem you have described.
Best of luck and if you do solve it come back and post - it will be very useful to lots of people for sure
Cheers!
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yep i tried on same model 900F, hmm i will try it on another cell phone with LTE and will post what happened, thx allot for info