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Ok guys, whats next for us, anyone have any hard facts about what HTC is going to replace our lovely Touch HDs with? still have quite a while left on my contract but im curious whats around the corner....
Agreed... I was thinking about HTC HERO but I dont think I can live with a screen that small
Guys,
Has anyone noticed that since the Blackstone, HTC has not made any phones with a screen that is as big as the Touch HD? (3.8 inches). I've only seen 3.6 inches so far. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Cheers.
You are correct 3.6" max: in my opinion we must wait early 2010 to see other device like HD
D'rath
Really looking forward to the HTC Thoth.....with the current on screen keyboard....I would'nt mind leaving the physical keyboard at home.....provided they launch it soon.....but kinda looking forward to one of their devices using the new Nvidia chips as well....
Yup, i'd only really be interested in one of the new Nvidia chipset devices as a replacement.
.. And an AMOLED display .. bloomin daylight :-(
the size on the HD is just perfect, ive tried some smaller ones since and its just not the same, i can see me using this thing until its fallen to bits unless a HD2 with a similar design comes out, its a perfect iPhone compeditor we just need a bit more grunt, OLEDS would be very cool, but i think we would have to drop the stylus, the metal wires in the screen reduce the brightness by a huge amount and im not sure how OLEDs compare with backlit LCD
Having had a Touch HD and Touch Pro2 I know why they don't make such a large screen anymore.
Using the TouchPro2's screen requires minimal 'touchdown' all around the screen - its consistent, whereas the Touch HD (I've had three of these) all exhibit the same issue - The middle of the screen requires less effort to register a screen press than the outer sides - making it inconsistent. I'm assuming this is due to the larger screen size the touch element of the phone has to cover....
Don't get me wrong - I loved my Touch HD but after the usual HTC and qualcomm marlaky of missing hardware drivers I'm pretty peeved off and have now deflect to the iphone 3GS. Yes its no-where near as technically superior as the Touch HD - but the screen and hardware acceleration make it very fluid to use.
Signed up to a 24month contract with the 3GS as I doubt very much HTC will be releasing anything decent (i.e. With a decent graphics chipset) for a while yet......
Agreed with the above posts..
Having OLED would be pretty cool... and maybe a capacitive touch screen-- however I doubt this as it wouldn't be compatible with handwriting recognition. Maybe better technology will overcome this someday as for now I can only dream... :/
zoomee,
I'll have to agree. The edges are not as responsive as the center. This is especially apparent in things like the X button on the top right.
Cheers.
zoomee said:
Having had a Touch HD and Touch Pro2 I know why they don't make such a large screen anymore.
Using the TouchPro2's screen requires minimal 'touchdown' all around the screen - its consistent, whereas the Touch HD (I've had three of these) all exhibit the same issue - The middle of the screen requires less effort to register a screen press than the outer sides - making it inconsistent. I'm assuming this is due to the larger screen size the touch element of the phone has to cover....
Don't get me wrong - I loved my Touch HD but after the usual HTC and qualcomm marlaky of missing hardware drivers I'm pretty peeved off and have now deflect to the iphone 3GS. Yes its no-where near as technically superior as the Touch HD - but the screen and hardware acceleration make it very fluid to use.
Signed up to a 24month contract with the 3GS as I doubt very much HTC will be releasing anything decent (i.e. With a decent graphics chipset) for a while yet......
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ah well, so no one has any news on anything to replace the Touch HD with. Pitty, they are losing out on market share to Apple. Unless that is they already figure the market is lost to them...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=576052
It's unlikely that HTC has completely lied in the specs, and the specs say that the screen is capacitive. However, it is like HTC to stretch the truth.
It is exceedingly unlikely that it's resistive. Resistive screens require pressure to be used - and we already know that the HD2's front is coated in glass. You can't use a resistive screen with hard glass.
As mentioned many times, the specs & hands on reviews say that the screen is capacitive! Soon we shall have the proof...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=576052
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Nonsense
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galaxys said:
As mentioned many times, the specs & hands on reviews say that the screen is capacitive! Soon we shall have the proof...
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Yes, Till the device is not in the market we can't tell many things can change.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=576052
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that thread sounds kinda disappointed if it is true, but I really hope it is exactly the same capacitive type of screen like iPhone and iPod Touch! The reason is, the feel between the two are really different. I personally find that resistive screen has a cheap feeling to me as it has a soft thin layer on top with visible dots, and the gap between the layer can feel very easily. However, true capacitive screen feels like it is entirely glass top, it is very solid and handling the device with the screen is a joy. Just a tiny touch of the screen will have instant response from capacity screen, so, I personally prefer iPhone capacitive screen, and I really hope this is not true!!!!!!!!!!!!
wonsanim said:
Yes, Till the device is not in the market we can't tell many things can change.
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That's right...
From HTC's website: The world’s first capacitive touch technology on a Windows® phone
Works for me.
precsmo said:
I personally find that resistive screen has a cheap feeling to me as it has a soft thin layer on top with visible dots, and the gap between the layer can feel very easily. However, true capacitive screen feels like it is entirely glass top, it is very solid and handling the device with the screen is a joy.
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Then you have never seen true capacitive screens. They have a layer of conductive wires just behind the glass top. On the 40 inch capacitive screen I use, you can clearly see them even at maximum brightness.
I've seen the dots on blackberry storm too, I've got Pre and once i've notice too, but both of the screen made of hard glass and very bright.
They both are capacitive screens.
Gloves
Dark Fire said:
It's unlikely that HTC has completely lied in the specs, and the specs say that the screen is capacitive. However, it is like HTC to stretch the truth.
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Whatever the screen is, I just need it to be glove-compatible, just like the Omnia, Omnia 2, Blackstone but UNLIKE iPod Touch (which i have), and iPhone. How do you communicate in winter with a full touch screen, and with wm 6.5.1 which might not allow answering with the hard "answer" button? My Omnia 2 is out of order: the antenna is broken(?) anyway i don't have any network reception. When it comes back from servicing in 2-3 weeks, I just sell it and buy a HD2.
forelli
forelli said:
Whatever the screen is, I just need it to be glove-compatible, just like the Omnia, Omnia 2, Blackstone but UNLIKE iPod Touch (which i have), and iPhone. How do you communicate in winter with a full touch screen, and with wm 6.5.1 which might not allow answering with the hard "answer" button? My Omnia 2 is out of order: the antenna is broken(?) anyway i don't have any network reception. When it comes back from servicing in 2-3 weeks, I just sell it and buy a HD2.
forelli
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it's never going to be 'glove compatible' you need to touch the screen with a conductive item..ie your hand, metal stylus etc. a glove will not work
forelli said:
Whatever the screen is, I just need it to be glove-compatible, just like the Omnia, Omnia 2, Blackstone but UNLIKE iPod Touch (which i have), and iPhone. How do you communicate in winter with a full touch screen, and with wm 6.5.1 which might not allow answering with the hard "answer" button? My Omnia 2 is out of order: the antenna is broken(?) anyway i don't have any network reception. When it comes back from servicing in 2-3 weeks, I just sell it and buy a HD2.
forelli
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I started thinking about the same thing today since I live in sweden, and came up with the solution:
use your nose! its gonna look funny as hell, but I aint taking my gloves of when the winter hits hard
shame
twisted-pixel said:
it's never going to be 'glove compatible' you need to touch the screen with a conductive item..ie your hand, metal stylus etc. a glove will not work
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Thnaks for the answer. what a pity: i think the blackstone with 1 Ghz Snapdragon is the best alternative, or the Omnia 2 and its 800 Mhz cpu with a more comprehensive GUI and a bigger screen...
forelli said:
... blackstone with 1 Ghz Snapdragon is the best alternative...
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It's called the Acer NeoTouch (F1)
TrYde said:
Then you have never seen true capacitive screens. They have a layer of conductive wires just behind the glass top. On the 40 inch capacitive screen I use, you can clearly see them even at maximum brightness.
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even if it is true, but it is 4.3" vs 40", it is way too far to compare and if the 4.3" can ever notice the wires? At least iPhone look like just one whole piece of solid glass touch screen, and that is what I prefer
I have a HTC Touch HD and i am thinking of getting a HTC Touch HD2.
Am i right in thinking that the 4.3 screen on the HTC HD2 is the same size as my sat nav screen ( 4.3 ) ?
Sorry for the silly question but i also need to use the HTC HD2 for sat nav.
jacko5 said:
I have a HTC Touch HD and i am thinking of getting a HTC Touch HD2.
Am i right in thinking that the 4.3 screen on the HTC HD2 is the same size as my sat nav screen ( 4.3 ) ?
Sorry for the silly question but i also need to use the HTC HD2 for sat nav.
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Yup
It's 99,99% the same size
Grtz,
Degake
4.3" = 4.3"
Sadly not. The 4:3 screen on my previous pda, an hx4700, is wider but shorter than the HD2. The hx4700 is a 4 inch screen, but I prefer it.
The HD2 is 9.4 by 5.7cm, or some wierd inch measurements.
My MIO c520 and HD2 have exactly the same size for 4.3".
Jacko,
The simple answer to your question is that the HD2 is fine if used as a sat nav machine.
Have tried it and no problems.
WB
Quick answer: Yes
Long answer: No. Even through they have the same screen real estate, i'm sure your sat nav has a different dimension as the HD2. Just like how the LG BL40 chocolate has a 4in screen, its aspect ratio (21:9), make it look slimmer and longer.
Hi,
My 2 cents worth Probably need to take into account the resolution as well, HD2 is 480x800, what's your sat nav res?
apparently not so "Realy stupid question" after all
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Sadly not. The 4:3 screen on my previous pda, an hx4700, is wider but shorter than the HD2. The hx4700 is a 4 inch screen, but I prefer it.
The HD2 is 9.4 by 5.7cm, or some wierd inch measurements.
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4:3 != 4.3"
Normally "4:3" would be referred to as an aspect ratio, but I am assuming you mean its 4 inches by 3 inches.
LCDs are measured from corner to corner. ie. Top left corner to bottom right. This would be the size. So the HD2 is 4.3" from top left corner to bottom right corner. Therefore, all 4.3" screens are the same "size" (though shape may differ, since it is area we are really measuring).
Thanks drewX2 for pointing out my mistake. Because there were no units included in the post, I had read the OP as being 4:3 ratio rather than 4.3 inches.
My hx4700 is 4 inches diagonal, being 3.25 inches by 2.47 inches, or 8.03 square inches. Ratio 4:3.
My HD2 is 4.3 inches diagonal, being 3.68 inches by 2.25 inches, giving 8.28 square inches. Ratio 13:8 or about 14.7:9. Now that is odd. 16:9 is standard widescreen.
I prefer the first layout to the second for satnav (and pretty much every use). Widescreen is pointless (IMHO) for satnav, as you aren't driving sideways. Tall doesn't help a lot, as you only need to see so far ahead.
Ok guys thank you for the replies.
And sorry for the spelling mistake in the header text ( realy ).
Maybe i should visit my local phone shop and take a look
My sat nav is a VDO DAYTONA ( 4.3 ) .. resolution 480 x 272.
The screen looks quite a bit bigger than my HTC Touch HD screen.
That is why i asked the question in the frst place, as i have not seen a HTC Touch HD2 in the flesh yet.
4.3" is also the size of a PSP lcd screen
Check here:
http://translate.google.com.au/tran...m/html/index.html&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&hl=&ie=UTF-8
Looks like a rendering, the gray on the bottom looks off.
what is that a super phone i think it is fake , very ugly very ****ty
if this phone is true it will be the same performance as ours as it scales image to a higher resolution 1280 x800 but our's scale up to 480x800 so they will be the same performance
and bigger screen is ****ty we don,t need an enormus phone that we cannot handle
Fake .
Im sure that next htc superphone will carry some new processor like the announced 1,5GHZ dual-cores. Furthermore, an amoled screen upgrade would be advised.
The memory specs dont seem as magic anymore and well, before going for 4G I'd appreciate a stable wide-distributed 3G.
But what concerns the screen - seriously... 4.3" HD2 is f****ng HUEG. I doubt I'll go for a phone with a screen bigger than that.
with that border size past the real display, a 4.5" would be uncomfortable to hold to say the least.
And anyway, why should it looks so much like the current HD2, they would at least introduce some major eye-catching differencies. Heck, they eve coloured the call keys on the USA version, and it's still an HD2.
So fake
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with that border size past the real display, a 4.5" would be uncomfortable to hold to say the least.
And anyway, why should it looks so much like the current HD2, they would at least introduce some major eye-catching differencies. Heck, they eve coloured the call keys on the USA version, and it's still an HD2.
So fake
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and the screen don't fit the edges like hd2 this means that this device is very very very big to be a smartphone even to be true
Nothing more to say other than lol.
Looks fake to me. LoL
Just looks really fake to me.
ugly one and fake!!
Im just waiting until engadget.com puts this on their webpage and makes a HUGE deal about it. Fu<ken engadget.
It's fake...I could have done a better Photoshop job with both eyes closed
I know the LG Optimus has a resistive touch screen, but is it possible to get muti touch by replacing original touchscreen to a glass touch screen and a new digitizer?
I cannot say it is impossible, because everything is possible. I think it is not worth
That's quite a big question, one problem that stands out is the odd shape of the GT540's screen, it doesn't stop as such where the screen stops, it stops before the real buttons, that would suggest to me that you'd have to have a custom screen and digitizer with those resistive buttons we have at the bottom (MENU, BACK) changed to capacitive, a custom screen would probably cost more than the phone itself. But if you do decide to waste a load of money outfitting a phone instead of buying a new one, on top of that you'd have to be able to program drivers for the display to work and you would have to modify your software that your phone runs top work with multi-touch.
So in short, really, no.
But if we had a load of developers (which we don't) what could be designed is a counter-point which isn't multi-touch in the traditional sense and is a software work-around, but still a bit of a waste of time.
I think is very strong to realize.
But i should be wonder
It's a very hard work... I don't think we'll have multitouch soon...
i will really want multitouch but think about it, its just cheaper and less time consuming to just get a new phone..
I am not permitted to post links, so search on youtube ''lg gt540 multi touch'' (without the quotes). First result is the one.
about the video:
This guy made a workaround for basic dualtouch. AFAIK and see one finger needs to be hold in place.
HI MrAndroid12
I think it's possible only if some one tweaks the kernel for recognizing multiple points
after replacing the resistive touch screen to capacitive one...
I would like to clear one thing to everyone who have an wrong notion about resistive touch screen..
A resistive touch screen can recognize a stylus or a small area of touch well
but a capacitive screen can recognize a larger area of touch like a finger..
and some resistive screen devices can multi touch..
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and some resistive screen devices can multi touch..
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Which?
Sent from my GT540 using XDA App
Resisitive
This phone has a RESISTIVE touch screen:
http://www.gsmarena.com/multitouch_coming_to_for_nokia_5800_xpressmusic_sort_of-news-872.php
subham964 said:
HI MrAndroid12
I would like to clear one thing to everyone who have an wrong notion about resistive touch screen..
A resistive touch screen can recognize a stylus or a small area of touch well
but a capacitive screen can recognize a larger area of touch like a finger..
and some resistive screen devices can multi touch..
Thanks are welcome if you found this post useful... Mail me for more details
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Our GT540 has a really qualitative resistive screen, compared with others. And, yes, I really like using a stylus, for handwritten notes for example (I still miss my LG Cookie for that function).
It's true that capacitive screens have been advertized as better than resistive.
It is true,if you like responsiveness and the highest standards of all have been set by Apple in this field.
However, it is not ONLY responsiveness that matters in some cases, right?
It would be good if LG did
make lg gt540 multi-touch!!
sad...
Another issue to be aware of is the electronics to drive a capacitative screen are different to those for a resistive one. I think a lot more work would be involved beyond just drivers and actually finding a screen that would work.
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It would be good if LG did
make lg gt540 multi-touch!!
sad...
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Can't agree more. I just can't wait for my next phone
it's possible.. but it's very expensive..