I read something about Rogers G1 not having the CPU limited..... - G1 General

And that since I got mine rooted and installed SetCPU to only feel a placebo effect. Any truth in this or is my phone actually faster because of it?

Default CPU speed is ROM dependent. The only way to find out is to run cat /proc/cpuinfo or cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq on a stock Rogers. To check on rooted ROMs, when you first start SetCPU after a reboot (in the latest version), the green text should display the ROM's default speeds (make sure you don't have set on boot checked).

It's true, the kernel in the Rogers Dream has the scaling options set to 384/528 by default.

cyanogen said:
It's true, the kernel in the Rogers Dream has the scaling options set to 384/528 by default.
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Good stuff. The battery isn't bigger? I remember some Android staff on the Google Group saying that they wouldn't increase the max frequency to 528 because they didn't think the battery life decrease was worth it. Must've been HTC's decision then.

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Under/Overclocking the Rooted Hero

Anyone tried it yet?
I'm browsing through the market apps under the search "root" and I'm seeing a couple overclocking apps. Particularly SetCPU and Overclock widget, the latter being a free app.
I'm kinda nervous about what clock speeds the Hero will tolerate. I don't want to risk bricking my phone!
The "free" app on market won't let me clock it past 528. I don't think there is an app per se that can jack it over that speed.
themyst said:
The "free" app on market won't let me clock it past 528. I don't think there is an app per se that can jack it over that speed.
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Yup i used another app to set it to 575, but the highest it went was 528. actually it was only like 526.XX
The Overclock Widget didn't work at all.
The widgets on the market are bound by the min and max clock values compiled into the kernel I believe.
There's maybe a kernel interface in /sys/ somewhere where you can echo in a clockspeed, but I haven't found it yet.
As for the max it would support? The G1/2 were throttled ~350 if I remember, but it was on this processor, which supported 528mhz, allowing for crazy clock speeds at the expense of battery life.
No idea if this proc will really support anything much over that, you'd be getting into 'true' overclocking territory there, and the potential for damage to the phone would be significantly increased.
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The usual /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ directory exists, but it doesn't look like you can just set a speed there in the 'normal' linux fasion:
Code:
# echo 540000 > cpuinfo_max_freq
cannot create cpuinfo_max_freq: permission denied
just download the set cpu or overclock widget
on set cpu activate profiles and make it so its 528 max and 528 min when the screen is on..and 245 max 128 min when the phone is sleeping
here is the free version of set cpu
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419
but buy it if you ahve the money to donate to author
just download the set cpu or overclock widget
on set cpu activate profiles and make it so its 528 max and 528 min when the screen is on..and 245 max 128 min when the phone is sleeping
here is the free version of set cpu
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419
but buy it if you ahve the money to donate to author
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has this been confirmed to work as advertised on the hero?
johnsongrantr said:
has this been confirmed to work as advertised on the hero?
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Do you think you could try it and see? I would like to use this, providing it works. Im stuck at work though and cant really play with my phone too much to try it out.
im trying it now ill let you know
Negrito said:
Do you think you could try it and see? I would like to use this, providing it works. Im stuck at work though and cant really play with my phone too much to try it out.
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I'm at work as well and kinda need my phone for stuff or else I'd be tinkering away.... but when I get home I'll see if it's working or not...
*NOTE* i r dumb in the ways of overclocking so I won't be able to fix code to get this to work
It seems to work when i put it on the slowest my phone goes alot slower and when i set it higher it goes faster but it will also decrease battery performance
thorracing1 said:
It seems to work when i put it on the slowest my phone goes alot slower and when i set it higher it goes faster but it will also decrease battery performance
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Very cool! I wonder what a good balance between more power with not too much more battery drain would be.
Can't get it to work
Can't get it to work
When I start the app I can see the two bars:
Min is 528 and
Max is 528 as well
I adjust the Minbar to 128 and click
"Set to it!"
Display notification:
"Set new clock successfull"
When I start the app again: No change at all, still
Min is 528 and
Max is 528
Display icon always shows:
527
Any advise?
Thanks
Is their any way to get the overclock to 768 while running the stock hero?
I have mine rooted of course, but I'm limited to 528mhz with setcpu.
Is their anyway to flash something so that max can be lifted?
Thanks.
swears11 said:
Is their any way to get the overclock to 768 while running the stock hero?
I have mine rooted of course, but I'm limited to 528mhz with setcpu.
Is their anyway to flash something so that max can be lifted?
Thanks.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=690238
Here princess.
Also..
Both include setcpu.txt for Setcpu OC app.. Select "custom" at the very bottom for device. Do not select hero. Or you can select "Auto Detect" at the top, this does not need the setcpu.txt.
*damage537.zip* 537mhz is the default.. scalable to 768 if you use an OC'ing app
*damage768.zip* 768mhz default clock speed -read below
*damage710.zip* 710mhz default clock speed -read below
Both can be scaled from 19.2 to 768mhz..
DAMAGE710--The damage710 will default 710mhz, you must use an OC app to scale it to 768. Use damage710 if your phone can not boot the 768mhz. And dont scale any higher then 710mhz or your phone might reboot.
DAMAGE768--If your phone can boot the 768mhz then either download will work. But if you dont want to use an OC'ing app then the damage768 will scale to 768mhz.
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well just incase it wasnt gone over , in order to overclock you need a kernel that has been modified to do this. there are several on this forum for the 2.1.
On a side not there is the god kernel that can both be run with or with out the overclocking apps.
I actually beleive the best performance is from the 710 kernel with out an overclocking widget. the widgets seem to introduce lag till they set the clock this is a major annoyance when the phone is woke for an incomming call.
Do a nand backup and test for your self.
kernels located here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6620102&postcount=1
Thanks for the info guys.
I flashed the 710 one ontop of my stock 2.1 rom.
Now I'm looking at the green HTC logo with white background. It hasen't changed for 10 minutes. I think its stuck. Should I be worried?
bobdude5 said:
just download the set cpu or overclock widget
on set cpu activate profiles and make it so its 528 max and 528 min when the screen is on..and 245 max 128 min when the phone is sleeping
here is the free version of set cpu
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419
but buy it if you ahve the money to donate to author
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set cpu wasn't free on this link
barry.bishop72 said:
set cpu wasn't free on this link
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Yes it is. Its an attachment.
barry.bishop72 said:
set cpu wasn't free on this link
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I pulled mine from this rom (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=691756)
Download the rar and extract. Its under /data/apps

Anyone with Froyo and OVERCLOCKED?

So now that I have Froyo, how do I overclock it?
I'm rooted with stock build (FRF50).
There have been a few tutorials out there but I'm not sure what is applicable now and whether they will still work.
If they do still work, can someone pls recommend a good one that will work for sure with Froyo?
Thanks lots in advance!
Hi there,
I've been running FroYo overclocked for a few days now and am absolutely loving it.
I'm running the leaked build that Paul uploaded, and running the pre-rooted kernel from Cyanogen. Other than that, I manage the CPU's speed with SetCPU, running at a max of 1113MHz.
The kernel can be found at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=686627
codesplice said:
Hi there,
I've been running FroYo overclocked for a few days now and am absolutely loving it.
I'm running the leaked build that Paul uploaded, and running the pre-rooted kernel from Cyanogen. Other than that, I manage the CPU's speed with SetCPU, running at a max of 1113MHz.
The kernel can be found at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=686627
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what he said...
Umm...
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...Android kernels don't get "rooted". Root on these phones simply means having the "su" app with suid set, and superuser.apk around to manage thos permissions. If you can put those two files in place with a stock kernel, and properly set the permissions, you have root.
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That said, there appear to be two "packaged" solutions to OC your FroYo:
Cyanogen's update.zip (not only does it put in an overclockable kernel, it also roots your phone).
Pershoot's newly-posted kernel (this is what I'm running...)
Of course, if you are brave, you can always "roll your own". People are clearly doing this, as there are FroYo Nexus One's out there showing 1.2ghz speeds.
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Umm...
OT
...Android kernels don't get "rooted". Root on these phones simply means having the "su" app with suid set, and superuser.apk around to manage thos permissions. If you can put those two files in place with a stock kernel, and properly set the permissions, you have root.
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You also need ro.secure=0 in the default.prop file (of the ramdisk portion of boot.img). So you could say the kernel gets 'rooted' this way (correct me if I'm wrong).
(On the Motorola Milestone this is not possible even though you can add "su" and "Superuser.apk", although on the Droid you can)
has anyone really gotten a real world speed increase with the OC'ed cpu? Yes it can technically run faster, but do our phones ever really max out the cpu when we are using them? Personally I feel that the ram adds more to the speed of the phone than the cpu. But that just an opinion. I'll have to see about doing some testing to see what the active cpu levels are under use.
followinginsanity said:
has anyone really gotten a real world speed increase with the OC'ed cpu? Yes it can technically run faster, but do our phones ever really max out the cpu when we are using them? Personally I feel that the ram adds more to the speed of the phone than the cpu. But that just an opinion. I'll have to see about doing some testing to see what the active cpu levels are under use.
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You can see improvements with benchmarks, but as far as noticing a difference... no, not really. There's always the placebo effect of "wow, this is so much faster with a ~10% overclock", but I don't think it's really a difference that you can pick up on. There are a lot of other things that could account for a 10-15% performance difference at any given time.
Granted, I could tell more of a difference on 2.1 than I can on 2.2 Froyo's JIT capability improves the efficiency to the point that you really can't tell a difference at all. Under 2.1, I at least felt like the menus were just a little snappier. Everything is snappy under Froyo though.
Clear as mud, lol?
side by side with a stock clocked n1 was the only way i could see a differance.
but its not a drastic differance, like a stock droid vs 800 mhz droid

[Q] faux's kernel or cyanogenmod 7 rc3's stock kernel?

I'm torn between the two kernel's. Through your own experience, which kernel is better for performance and which for battery life? with the cm7 stock kernel i can get around 2700 in quadrant at 1.5ghz but i heard people were getting scores in the 3000's with the faux kernel?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
P.S. why do i seem to get lower scores on performance governor than ondemand?
Faux is what I use. Don't base your phone on quadrant. Its like cake. Looks delucous.. but the cake is a lie.
Its a general idea of a phones performance.. not the end all be all.
Both work well... but faux has newer wifi drivers that greatly increase range and performance.
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xdmds said:
I'm torn between the two kernel's. Through your own experience, which kernel is better for performance and which for battery life? with the cm7 stock kernel i can get around 2700 in quadrant at 1.5ghz but i heard people were getting scores in the 3000's with the faux kernel?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
P.S. why do i seem to get lower scores on performance governor than ondemand?
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as stated above Quadrant Standard is just a starting point. It lead nothing to the true facts of how well a phone preforms.
Couple of things to consider.
1) Zinx has created CM7 around the kernel that is installed with the ROM. If you need help you will get more help directly from the developer using their kernels, This goes for any ROM.
2) If you opt'd into the feedback program you will be doing so with false information. You'll be giving feedback based on "product a" when in all honesty your using "product b"
3) overclocking the phone is not always the best thing to do. Sure it's nice to show off and say "hey looky what i can do" but when the rubber meets the road their is no real benefit other than cooking the battery. And keep in mind what happens to things when they get hot, they expand. And when you are pumping that much extra into and out of a processor they will expand which will wear and tear on the motherboard and solder joints.
Personally i'd just keep the stock kernel @ keep it at most 1017 unless you plan on showing off, then moving back ASAP. and for what it's worth i typically run my MyTouch @ 768Mhz.
neid, 2 questions!
1. I want to underclock to 768 as well (never messed with CPU settings before) on CM7 RC3 using the system built in setting not set cpu, have you seen any performance degradation?
2. when I revert back to stock from my nandroid, would the CPU be throttled back to default settings or will it stay at 768?
Thanks
kpdadroid said:
neid, 2 questions!
1. I want to underclock to 768 as well (never messed with CPU settings before) on CM7 RC3 using the system built in setting not set cpu, have you seen any performance degradation?
2. when I revert back to stock from my nandroid, would the CPU be throttled back to default settings or will it stay at 768?
Thanks
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1) on my phone, i use 768Mhz day in and day out, Fruit Ninja, Angry birds, Browser, dialer, navigating the phone in general everything performs EXTREMELY well. I've not had any complaints. just go to settings > cyanogen > performance > CPU > max > 768. Since Cyanogen is a lightweight ROM it doesn't have to push though all the bloat that MySense brings so we can scale it back and still get good results.
i personally do not care for Quadrant scores. but i know some people live by them so i've attacthed a 768Mhrz and a 1016Mhrz Quad score. The names will be the set speed.
2) the CPU speed will revert back to what ever you have it set as on that ROM. So if you left it 1017 in your Nanadroid it'll be 1017 when you flash the restore.

Overclock an Archos101

I've seen in the market apps that claim to boost CPU to 1ghz. Is this possible?
Has anyone here overclocked their A101 and what kind of results have you seen?
Yes, it is very possible but you have to have partial temporary root or full permanent root via one of the following methods in order for the ocerclock to work:
1. Archangel one-click (temporary) root
2. Chulri's Root (permanent)
3. UrukDroid (permanent)
SetCPU is an application that almost everyone uses (as well as myself) that is guaranteed to work. It is well worth the $2 if you want to buy it or "download" it from other sources.
I personally have full permanent root access to my A101IT via Chulri's Method (because I found that it was the simplest to install) and am running mine at 1200 MHz with absolutely no lag/freezing whatsoever.
My Settings with SetCPU Version 2.1.3:
Scaling ondemand
1200 MHz - Max; 300 min ☑ Set on Boot
Profiles
☑ Enable
☑ Battery < 101% - 1200 Max
Priority: 100 - 300 Min
ondemand
Advanced
(Leave everything here the same unless you know what you're doing here).
Hope this helps.
spicy_puerto_rican said:
Yes, it is very possible but you have to have partial temporary root or full permanent root via one of the following methods in order for the ocerclock to work:
1. Archangel one-click (temporary) root
2. Chulri's Root (permanent)
3. UrukDroid (permanent)
SetCPU is an application that almost everyone uses (as well as myself) that is guaranteed to work. It is well worth the $2 if you want to buy it or "download" it from other sources.
I personally have full permanent root access to my A101IT via Chulri's Method (because I found that it was the simplest to install) and am running mine at 1200 MHz with absolutely no lag/freezing whatsoever.
My Settings with SetCPU Version 2.1.3:
Scaling ondemand
1200 MHz - Max; 300 min ☑ Set on Boot
Profiles
☑ Enable
☑ Battery < 101% - 1200 Max
Priority: 100 - 300 Min
ondemand
Advanced
(Leave everything here the same unless you know what you're doing here).
Hope this helps.
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Wow - thank you.
1.2ghz sounds amazing given mine runs stock at 800mhz. A 50% improvement must be really noticeable.
I will definitely give this a try. Like you msay $2 is not much considering the hike in performance you get.
What effect on battery have you noticed?
My battery drains dead from a full 100% charge in like 2-3 hours on average if I'm using it the entire time but sometimes 4 hours if I use it like once an hour or so.
So the overclock does kill the battery somewhat. Never md though as you dont get extra performance for nothing i guess
I assume you have the overclock kernel as i can't set setcpu to 1200 without it
@Pete917:
If your tablet runs at 800mhz you have done something wrong.
Since 2.1.08 you can run the archos with 1GHZ just with the stock rom.
Hi Guy,
I used Uruk for root, after that I use Milestone overclock to set the frequency to one more grade to 1.15, but it seem not stable enough, it will also hang.
Anyone have such problem on overclock? Or what I need to do for the stable overclock.
To (SWFlyerUK): Yes, I have the zImage Overclock kernel found here For firmware 2.3.20:
Download here: http://www.mediafire.com/?pnbev44hk2m1346
File name: zImage_archos_2.3.20_recode09.zip (MD5: 7756BA280F3FEBAD23A528A10EB1D6B5)
To (jan_tsui): The problem might just be the Milestone Overclock because I as well am assuming you have an Archos 70 IT or 101IT? If that is the case, then Milestone probably does not work with your device so you should stick to the SDE and go from there.
As to my personal A101IT I keep mine on the exact above settings in SetCPU because I just so happen to always be around an electrical outlet, be in my truck where the DC power outlet is, or be on an airplane with my "Airline-to-car-adapter" so it doesn't bother me that my battery drains quickly because I always have quick access to charge it wherever.
Anyone have the OC kernel for UrukDroid 1.0?
I found in some forum that by using urukdroid initramfs.cpio.gz with ardatdat version zImage, but it seem not working for me, the system boot into main menu and hang. Is it the version conflict?
jan_tsui said:
Anyone have the OC kernel for UrukDroid 1.0?
I found in some forum that by using urukdroid initramfs.cpio.gz with ardatdat version zImage, but it seem not working for me, the system boot into main menu and hang. Is it the version conflict?
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You can always use the overclock utilities like QuickClock advanced, or Droid Overclock, they seem to work great.
My personal experience so far with Droid overclock isn't that great, but quickclock with some tinkering and after a few reboots, I found a nice little stable 1.2ghz overclock for me. Sad that it can only have four steps though, really hinders any sort of life saving/overclocking abilities.
Scaryghoul said:
You can always use the overclock utilities like QuickClock advanced, or Droid Overclock, they seem to work great.
My personal experience so far with Droid overclock isn't that great, but quickclock with some tinkering and after a few reboots, I found a nice little stable 1.2ghz overclock for me. Sad that it can only have four steps though, really hinders any sort of life saving/overclocking abilities.
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they aren't really getting the job done for me here. is there a noticeable difference?
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they aren't really getting the job done for me here. is there a noticeable difference?
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In terms of speed or difference between the apps?
In terms of speed, well, not really. I would say there is a difference in benchmarking(minor), and not much of a difference in gaming, while it does slightly up the fps in some games, most of them are bottlenecked by the gpu as well, so most of the games that run decent already will just run a little bit better but the ones that don't run well or not at all won't have much of a change. There are a few more points I could hit, but overall, I don't think it's really worth the jump from 1ghz-1.2ghz unless you absolutely require the extra horsepower or you're a power user with an addiction to making things that go fast, go faster.
The only thing I'd really think the extra speed could be actually useful is during HD decoding and/or software decoding with apps like mobo player(My personal favourite video app which offers software decoding which puts pressure on the cpu). Overclocking during those do offer a small difference(Yes, this is one of those times it is definitely worth it(until you run out of ram or the gpu starts bottlenecking then you're screwed)).

[Q] Cyanogenmod 10 with Trinity 7 CPU overclocking

So I'm kind of new to messing around with tablets but learning a few things. On my Nexus 7 I decided to put Cyanogenmod 10 on it so I could customize a few things. I then decided I wanted to overclock the max CPU frequency past 1300 MHz so I installed Trinity 7 kernel. Now I'm able to run it at 1700 MHz which runs a few apps much faster but after exiting out of the apps and going back to check on the max CPU frequency and it's set back down to 1300 MHz.
Does anyone have an idea what could be causing this? So far there's only one app I'm overclocking for so it's not a big issue but it would still be nice to figure out the issue.
Thanks
I down loaded too. I just changed the governer to performance and it stays on 1600 etc on set cpu
EsX GingaNinja said:
So I'm kind of new to messing around with tablets but learning a few things. On my Nexus 7 I decided to put Cyanogenmod 10 on it so I could customize a few things. I then decided I wanted to overclock the max CPU frequency past 1300 MHz so I installed Trinity 7 kernel. Now I'm able to run it at 1700 MHz which runs a few apps much faster but after exiting out of the apps and going back to check on the max CPU frequency and it's set back down to 1300 MHz.
Does anyone have an idea what could be causing this? So far there's only one app I'm overclocking for so it's not a big issue but it would still be nice to figure out the issue.
Thanks
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There might be an option for "set at boot." Try that.
mccolvinj said:
I down loaded too. I just changed the governer to performance and it stays on 1600 etc on set cpu
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That's not the solution. The performance governor keeps the cpu speed at max frequency at all times (even when screen is off). That will eat up your battery quick.
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There might be an option for "set at boot." Try that.
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Thanks that seemed to have fixed it though I figured out you have to turn that on THEN pick the max CPU frequency. Doing it the other way around won't change anything, I think that's what I tried before.
Also mccolvinj I'd personally leave it on interactive so it will just use the max CPU when needed or at least that's what I got out of the descriptions of governors I looked up.
EDIT: Nevermind...that only temporarily fixed it, it went back to 1300 after a bit. Maybe I installed Trinity 7 wrong?
Does trinity have superuser permissions?
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Does trinity have superuser permissions?
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I think so since it's rooted, is there a way I can check or give it permissions?
you need the powerHAL "fix". your rom should include it, but i guess it doesnt. search the n7 forums for a flashable. or, the trinity kernel toolbox app includes the "fix" just in case your rom doesnt.
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I think so since it's rooted, is there a way I can check or give it permissions?
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Check in the superuser app
Sent from my Rezound using xda app-developers app
kernels arent rooted, your roms are. you can flash a custom kernel on a rom without root. the only difference is that you wouldnt be able to control the cpu with ant cpu control apps, the apps need root.
ive posted the solution already. either find the flashable powerHAL fix or use the trinity kernel toolbox to control the kernel. tkt includes the powerHAL fix.

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