hi all
first thank you very much for the XDAndroid version for HTC phones
I have HTC Touch HD >> Blackstone
I've successfully installed the XDAndroid in the phone but ..... its too slow ??
I have NITDroid version on my nokia N900 and it work very well ..
but when I start the XDAndoroid it seems the 3D acceleration is not working but the other functions works very well .. so any help
I tried to reinstall it with overclocked version is the setup but the same problem ???
so please help
and another thing
why the screen in XDAndroid looks soooooo pale compared with my N900 NITdroid screen ???????? is it ok ??
I know there is a thread for questions but no one answers there..
any help ????????????
have you gone into spare parts and enable windows animation and transition animations to fast? kinda helps.
I also found that once you first installed android on your phone (fresh installation) its kinda slow in the start but picks up.
Did you use the overclocked blackstone settings?
Also i think that because it reading from your sd card this can be the causation of it being a bit laggy. but when NAND/rom come out and it is able to boot from device instead this can help. so look forward for it to come out soon. devs are working on getting android to be stable and we shall see rom. currently fixing the battery display but i guess when they get the camera and the battery consumption down to business we shall see it.
Regards
Ho.angii
blackstone xdandroid froyo v1.6 + camro battery testing/fix kernel. <3
first thanks for reply
second the xdandroid is working very well but the 3D acceleration and the SD is a high speed class 6 one
I wish the next stable rom will be better and works for me
The hd processor has poor 3D capabilities by itself. On top of it you are working on an OS which runs on top of another OS and which was ported by a few enthusiasts without official support or drivers.
I'd say you can be happy with what it does and can't expect a lot more...
I also think that given the fact that you can play labyrinth 3D quite smoothly, 3D acceleration kind of works, otherwise it wouldn't do anything of the sort.
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andycted said:
The hd processor has poor 3D capabilities by itself. On top of it you are working on an OS which runs on top of another OS and which was ported by a few enthusiasts without official support or drivers.
I'd say you can be happy with what it does and can't expect a lot more...
I also think that given the fact that you can play labyrinth 3D quite smoothly, 3D acceleration kind of works, otherwise it wouldn't do anything of the sort.
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but my friend the 3D isn't work ... the system is so slow that I cant play any game on it !
as I said I have it on my N900 nokia device and the 3D is working very well and I cat even paly Modern Combat : Sandstorm !!!
so its extremely slow on the My Blackstone !!
any help
i 've been used all the kernels from huanyu and michyprima,hastarin and mdeejay..and so many builds!i saw that all kernels still has a ts issue most in gaming experience
it would be great if the devs could work somehow on it more ..
also..i like very much to have a live wallpaper without issue on scroling pages..but always when a live wallpaper setting up screen has ts issue !i know its a known bug and must put a simple wallpaper so u can have better performance..!
So..
what u think?is there a way to fix the bugs for better gaming experience such as asphalt and nova etc..
and scrolling through pages with a live wallpaper can be smoother???
thanks for your time for reading this ..
i hope not to get flamed...i know devs has so much to work on kernels..!i just made a simple request for the people who have the same experience and they need the same fix as me
Or..is there a way to fix that by myself something that i didnt know it????
the ts freezes ****s gaming experience up, thats true.. and sad. lets have a bit more patience on this
but hey.. the live wallpapers are killing the performance of android.. doesnt matter on wich phone. some friends got desires, and all of them has the live wallpaper off. if they set it on, it laggs even more than on my hd2!!
and the same on my nexy! live wallpaper make it laggy >.<!
so..lets hope for a fix so we can play smoother gaming
about live wallpapers i didnt know that the ts issue also exist and in nexus one device and desire too...!so if it is like that..then i'll pass it
too bad because there are so nice live wallpapers wich can be costumizable in you likes and use it as wallpapers such as nexus revamped and u can use your own wallpapers and make the lines pass like the nexus one original
panoplanet live wallpapers is also nice which u use panoramic wallpapers and it looks soooo amazing..too bad screen lags with live wallpapers and drains much more faster the battery!
thanks...
You might want to try formatting your SD card to a 32K Cluster Size, I saw it recommended in these forums, tried it myself, and have been playing without issues since they did the TS Fix.
Ive been playing A LOT Pocket Legends (Multi-Touch MMORPG game ) and Ive had zero issues with it. Asphalt run awesome, but I must admit I unistalled it after trying Raging Thunder 2 and NFS: Shift, Glyder 2 works amazingly well too. No Accelerometer or TS fixes in either of those.
I always do a Format to 32K Cluster Size before trying a new ROM, the best one if used so far is MDJ 1.7. Trying right now the HD build
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You might want to try formatting your SD card to a 32K Cluster Size, I saw it recommended in these forums, tried it myself, and have been playing without issues since they did the TS Fix.
Ive been playing A LOT Pocket Legends (Multi-Touch MMORPG game ) and Ive had zero issues with it. Asphalt run awesome, but I must admit I unistalled it after trying Raging Thunder 2 and NFS: Shift, Glyder 2 works amazingly well too. No Accelerometer or TS fixes in either of those.
I always do a Format to 32K Cluster Size before trying a new ROM, the best one if used so far is MDJ 1.7. Trying right now the HD build
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nice, ty for the tipp, ill try this
i did that you told and is the same
the games you described such as pocket legends glyder etc runs pretty nice for me too..!also asphalt runs ok nice but only at the first stages then it gets laggy..wanna try some games my friends to see what kinda lag i am talkin about??
try playing Fast and Furius Andrenaline..Avatar HD..Toonwarz..Infernus 1!..N.O.V.A..Modern combat sandstorm...!all these games lags..gaming experience is not good with those games sometimes run well sometimes lag..and damn when it lags you lose or you are dead in game and game is over which is really annoying and you have to start all over again and especially when it lags in the same stage
i hope some day we can have smooth gaming experience such as ****y iphone
edangel said:
i did that you told and is the same
the games you described such as pocket legends glyder etc runs pretty nice for me too..!also asphalt runs ok nice but only at the first stages then it gets laggy..wanna try some games my friends to see what kinda lag i am talkin about??
try playing Fast and Furius Andrenaline..Avatar HD..Toonwarz..Infernus 1!..N.O.V.A..Modern combat sandstorm...!all these games lags..gaming experience is not good with those games sometimes run well sometimes lag..and damn when it lags you lose or you are dead in game and game is over which is really annoying and you have to start all over again and especially when it lags in the same stage
i hope some day we can have smooth gaming experience such as ****y iphone
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Pocket Legends is probably the most demanding game of all of those, and it runs perfectly, even with LOTS of people on screen. The issue with Asphalt seems to be the GFXs engine. NFS Shift looks way better than Asphalt and it doesnt lag at all, and I played NOVA for about an hour without any screen lag, same for Toonwarz, so dunno
Formatting to a 32K cluster size helps sometimes since it tends to increase the read/write timings at the expense of smaller files occupying a bit more of space, but in the end it pays off imo.
Some TS issues have been found to be directly linked with SD speeds and high CPU loads, so you might wanna try a faster card if available just to be sure
I really dunno what else to suggest ya, Im currently playing more with my HD2 than my PSP (its actually collecting Dust since Android got installed lol)
I could suggest ya trying out this Build: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=823491
With that stock kernel and everything, pretty much the most stable Build I've ever used.
Hope it helps
U guys have cm builds ? I get it on all cm builds , but none of the sense builds (otherwise id have cm myself)
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Pocket Legends is probably the most demanding game of all of those, and it runs perfectly, even with LOTS of people on screen. The issue with Asphalt seems to be the GFXs engine. NFS Shift looks way better than Asphalt and it doesnt lag at all, and I played NOVA for about an hour without any screen lag, same for Toonwarz, so dunno
Formatting to a 32K cluster size helps sometimes since it tends to increase the read/write timings at the expense of smaller files occupying a bit more of space, but in the end it pays off imo.
Some TS issues have been found to be directly linked with SD speeds and high CPU loads, so you might wanna try a faster card if available just to be sure
I really dunno what else to suggest ya, Im currently playing more with my HD2 than my PSP (its actually collecting Dust since Android got installed lol)
I could suggest ya trying out this Build: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=823491
With that stock kernel and everything, pretty much the most stable Build I've ever used.
Hope it helps
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thanks for help..i used this build for a week...but its the same for me!i use 8gb sandisk class 6 sdcard!for now i am using old mdjay evo WARM sense v1.1 which is the most stable build for me with hastarins 8.5.1 kernel because it gives me better battery..!well ..i think i will buy another sdcard probably class 4 and check out if it works the same for games..!otherwise i will buy an a cheap used iphone to have a second phone most for gaming experience..i dont like iphone either but really is awsome for gaming
HD2 is the best phone ever released..u can put so many builds and try whatever you need..
lets see....
Again thanks for helping me
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U guys have cm builds ? I get it on all cm builds , but none of the sense builds (otherwise id have cm myself)
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i used cm build and yes there is no way u can play games there i had the same issue like you...so rather having that i used to have sense build which is much more better for gaming experience!
dunno why is on cm builds so laggish..??
anyone if use a HD build can tell how is the gaming experience rather the simpe sense builds???i wanna try sense HD build but dunno if its faster or not than simple old sense!!!
a little off topic
i just orderes an iphone 3g from ebay for 150 dollars
@edangel
The iPhone 3G (or even the 3GS) couldn't tap the HD2.
Hi all,
I was thinking about purchasing a nook color and having fun with roms and themes. I'm wondering though if anyone has tried a playstation emulator on one of these? Looks like this has the same specs as the Droid 2 and X so it seems possible. Could maybe use a controller over Bluetooth?
I'm also wondering what the "stock" market place is like. Is it possible to access the full market once your rooted?
Thanks in advance.
After overclocking to 1.1ghz running cyanogenmod 7, the playstation emulator works very smooth for me, and I use a wii classic controller over bluetooth. Not all games will run though.
On the stock rom you cant really do much, but once you're running a custom rom you can do pretty much anything.
this sounds pretty awsome
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After overclocking to 1.1ghz running cyanogenmod 7, the playstation emulator works very smooth for me, and I use a wii classic controller over bluetooth. Not all games will run though.
On the stock rom you cant really do much, but once you're running a custom rom you can do pretty much anything.
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actually, i'm running stock rooted and psx4droid runs fine for me... playing super puzzle fighter and FFVII so far. just using the on-screen keys.
I'm running CM7 off of SD card OC'd to 1.1ghz with psx4droid app . Knockout Kings runs, but pretty choppy. Blood Omen Legacy of Kain runs perfect (weird choice I know but nostalgic for me).
Also running N64oid but for N64 games, at least for me, they don't run smooth enough to really play. Almost but not quite.
I'm not aware of having problems accessing the market place. Both Android and Amazon seem to work great for me.
Hi, back in 2011 I've bought the Galaxy S2 because I was just tired of -installing this, bricking there, rebooting here- stuff on my Motorola Defy, tears and blood came out off me till I finally could flash the device again and left it factory default, so I said to me "I'll just buy a device that just WORKS" and that's what I've got with my S2, there has been 4 long years and I think it is time for it to go, I'm just tired of it and I don't use it anymore.
There is a deal with a man that would change me it for an Xperia Play, I think it's a good deal, because at least I would use it to play the PS One games I played in my childhood. But now it comes again: -kernels, flashing, restoring, rebooting- I can feel the fear just from thinking about it, but I think it is necessary since the device lacks so much in power, I would crack it up to get an overall better experience and play Vice City on it decently, but if I do it, I will do it once, and for ever.
I would like to keep the closest to stock as it can be: good battery life, and everything just working as it should be, I'm not buying a broken device. What do I need to do to overclock it? Is it totally necessary to install the DoomKernel V14 in order to do it? I want to increase the RAM as well, from 512MB to 1GB.
Would it be to much to ask for an answer like this?:
I've used the Xperia Play to play a lot of games including Vice City, my device is running @1.9 GHz and it got 1GB of RAM, to do it you necessarily got to root your phone (link), install DoomKernel V14 2.3.4 Gingerbread (link), then do this to overclock it (link), and this to increase the RAM (link), mmm... as well there is a trick you can do it as well to increase the performance...
Something like that? And any other information about it that you find useful for a beginner user like me (like what to install in order to play games) would be greatly appreciated as well.
Sorry if I sound very demanding and/or uneducated, english is not my first language and I feel I still can not get totally understood in this language, I know it is to much to ask for, but if there is one big soul that knows it everything about this device, that got it all clear in his mind, and that would help this beginner I would love him for ever. Thank you everyone for the time and for this big community, cheers!
Hi, I try to answer your questions, but it's not so easy.
Xperia Play have never got Android 4. The last official release is Gingerbred 2.3.4. On your S2 you was used to on ISC or higher I think. ICS fo Xplay was released only like beta (you can still download it on Sony's webpage). You have three options:
Android 2.3 which was official and with full support - it means gamepad, touchpads and everything else is working. It gets you the best performance, official PSX emulator works (you can convert your own games with PSXperia - not all games run through this emulator - e.g. Tony Hawk's titles, NHL's etc. not), but many games is compiled to higher Android versions or even many games lost support for Gingerbread in time (Trial 3, Trials Frontier, Crossy Road, Gangstar Vegas etc.)
Android 4.0 which was released only in beta - it has gamepad and touchpad support, but not in all games (however there is only few games with this problem). Performance is significantly worse (480p kernel is not an option, it's must have), official PSX emulator doesn't works there. But with RAM Manager/Boost my Xperia, smart swap settings and overclocking you can play almost everything (there are some lags here and there, but it's playable).
Android 4.1 which is minimum Android version if you want to use more and more "modern" material version of apps and some aps and games generally (Tomb Rider Go, new Nova Launcher, new Solid Explorer etc.). It has almost no support for touchpads but even gamepad - even with touchpad activator. Modern Combat 4, FIFA 12 and long list of games in 4.1 have no touchpad or even gamepad support (in MC4 for example gamepad works, touchpads not, FIFA 12 completely without Xplay support). You can always use GameKeyboard and map the buttons, but it's not so comfortable and offten even so optimized like the original solution from developer (FIFA12) - however sometimes it's vice versa and touchpad implementation from developer is horrible (Splinter Cell Conviction).
Of course, there are some projects with 4.2, 4.4 even 5.0, but it's not for daily use and totaly not for gaming.
There are some good ROMs for all three version:
Android 2.3 Gingerbread:
1) Gin2Kittkat 3.3.0 - in my opinion it's the most powerful ROM for Xperia Play - in terms of options and theming so as in pure performance
2) AuroraPlay - in 2013 it was the number one in pefrormance, but nowadays G2KK is better and newer
3) NXT ROMs - I have used them in 2012/2013 and they were awesome. Second version is beautifull
Android 4.0 IceCream Sandwich - most of them are Sony based, for example NexPlay is Cyanogenmod based (I don't know if it has touchpad support, but I think not)
1) Xperia Play Z Final Edition - I'm using it right now and with some of my modifications (debloated, replaced apks, removed small aps, changed bootanimation etc.) it is the best ROM for this phone in terms of modern system/gaming support. It has touchpad support in all games I've tried (I think ironic is that MC4 or Asphalt 8 run better than Crossy Road or Puzzle Craft 2), you can run some other aplications and games you cannot on GB.
2) Ultimate HD - it lacs some features which Play Z ROM have, but it's nothing important (at least for me). Only auto brightness doesn't work for me.
3) Express ICS
4) Neo2Play - aromainstaller with options what would you like to install
Android 4.1.2 Jelly Bean - all JB ROMs are based on Cyanogen mod cause official JB never comes to Xperia 2011 phones
1) Paranoid Android - best ROM for me if I have to choose JB. As the only one it has brightness slider in notification toggles area
2) Sonygenmod 10 - it looks like official Sony themed Android with ported Sony apps.
3) Slimbeam - it's fast and stable
4) JellyZeusbean - also Sony themed ROM
I think the best kernels are Lupus - for GB and JB. For ICS it's the same I think. But Lupus for ICS has small data partition, so rather use Lupus ICS/GB or Doom ICS (and Link2SD cause 600MB is still not enough). For GB there is also Extreme kernel, which has fantastic performance, but battery drain is crazy. If you want better performance choose 480p version which can offer more free RAM (even 30-50MB). I think there are better ways how to record videos than with Xperia Play. All of these kernels allow you to overclock, but remember - higher frequency meand shorter battery life. And for example my phone cannot go higher than 1,5GHz, on 1,6 it will restart itself. 1,4GHz is enough for everything, small performance is mainly cause weak GPU. Higher frequencies allow you max play some games in FPSe witch OpenGL on.
You cannot simply add or change RAM capacity. You can make swap partition on your SD card, download file with swap script, or you can simply use Swapper (it's not practical). This will free up some ROM, not add capacity. It's necessary for some games which need more RAM than you physicaly have (I remember Angry Birds Go was impossible to run without swap partition). Here is the topic. Best setting for swap is 20 (on all versions of Android) in my opinion. In ICS and JB you can try 40 or even 60, but my experience is long response time and worse performance at all.
Some other tips: delete facebook and Messenger - they are killing performance and response time. Use Facebook lite or web browser. Don't install any apps you don't need or you aren't using more than 1 per month. More apps means more Link2SD apps and they are slowing down the phone. On Gingerbread use Nemus Launcher (till 2012 not in GPlay) or Xperia T modded launcher (the fastest) if you don't need features which has Nemus. On ICS or JB you can use Xperia Z modded launcher, Nemus or Nova (I'm using it right now and it's very good, fluid and if you run some game, it goes off the RAM). On GB you can also flash Adreno Booster, in some games you achieve better performance, in orhers more stable FPS.
Thank you so much for reply!!!! I love you man!!!! I have figured out a lot of things by searching myself since nobody seem to reply to me, but you know a lot of things I didn't know obviously. I didn't know that Gin2Kittkat was better in performance than Auroraplay LE, it looks beautiful as well! So I'll definitely give it a try. And as you are using the Xperia Play Z Final Edition ROM, can you tell me if it runs good GTA Vice City? Because as far as I have seen, it only runs smooth on modded 2.3.7 GB ROMs as Auroraplay LE.
I'm sorry for the late answer. Yes, GTA and some other games are unplayable on ICS/JB. As I said, for gaming is GB best. However more and more often you have to look after older apps version (it means outside Google play) cause developer compiled the newer one only for 3/4.0+ (even games like Benji Bananas, Subway surfers, Jetpack Joyride). And even paid games and apps is loosing support for GB. I think it's very unfair from developer to do this when there is no option to download (at least) older version (Locus, Officesuit etc.). There are plenty of apps and games which were GB compatible and nowadays they require even JB 4.4 (OneNote for example).
Thank you for everything man!
im really impressed with cm12.1, you should try it before going to a very outdated 4.0.4 :/
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[*]Android 4.0 which was released only in beta - it has gamepad and touchpad support, but not in all games (however there is only few games with this problem). Performance is significantly worse (480p kernel is not an option, it's must have), official PSX emulator doesn't works there. But with RAM Manager/Boost my Xperia, smart swap settings and overclocking you can play almost everything (there are some lags here and there, but it's playable).
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Hello Miichaell,
Thanks a lot for this full explanation and guide to Xperia Play flash options.
For Android 4.0 ICS roms, when you say "Performance is significantly worse", how does it compare to stock GB in facts ? Slowdowns ? Freezes ?
I mostly play emulator from the 8bits / 16bits era, and also PSX games... Do they work well with a rom like "xperia play z final ultimate edition" ? I don't play heavy games like MC4, GTA Vice City, Nova, etc.
I know GB based roms will always be better for playing, but as I use my Xperia Play as my daily smartphone, the lack of compatible applications is now a real problem.
Thanks for your advices !
Hi and sorry for the late answer. As I said - in fact everything what you need is also available for GB too. Sometimes you have to search on google little longer for older version of your apps, but almost all apps was already there in GB era, so they were available for GB (Onenote for example). And for everything is some alternative which is GB compatible (or was). If you never used any faster phone, ICS is good to use as daily driver - if you dont install FB, Messenger, Whatsapp and generally not to many apps. For better app compatibility and some speedup you could try JB (only CM) or the newest MM, but gamepad doesnt work at all in MM. If you want at least a little fast phone even without playing games, stay on old but awesome working GB.
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Hi and sorry for the late answer. As I said - in fact everything what you need is also available for GB too. Sometimes you have to search on google little longer for older version of your apps, but almost all apps was already there in GB era, so they were available for GB (Onenote for example). And for everything is some alternative which is GB compatible (or was). If you never used any faster phone, ICS is good to use as daily driver - if you dont install FB, Messenger, Whatsapp and generally not to many apps. For better app compatibility and some speedup you could try JB (only CM) or the newest MM, but gamepad doesnt work at all in MM. If you want at least a little fast phone even without playing games, stay on old but awesome working GB.
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Hello Miichaell,
Thanks for your answer.
I finally decided to try it by myself, so I flashed ICS with Xperia Play Z Final edition, but it was definitely too slow for me.
So I went back to Gin2Kitkat... And I guess I'll stick with it til the end of life of my phone.
By the way, do you know a reliable website where I could find old versions of APK ? I am currently looking for GB version of FEEDLY and EVERNOTE...
Thanks !
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Hello Miichaell,
Thanks for your answer.
I finally decided to try it by myself, so I flashed ICS with Xperia Play Z Final edition, but it was definitely too slow for me.
So I went back to Gin2Kitkat... And I guess I'll stick with it til the end of life of my phone.
By the way, do you know a reliable website where I could find old versions of APK ? I am currently looking for GB version of FEEDLY and EVERNOTE...
Thanks !
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The fastest ICS ROM for the Xplay is Neo2Play V2.7 it is as fast as Gin2Kitkat but it has less free ram, may be you could give it a try.
Here is the link to Neo2Play Rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2283653
If you decide to use Neo2Play I recommend you use doomkernel extracted from Xperia Play Z Final Edition, that is the best combination of Rom+Kernel I have found for the Play. Also overclocking all the way to 1.6 GHz helps a lot and for that Rom I never found an Issue by doing so. Actually I always kept 1.8 GHz max-400 min with no issues at all.
hello to everyone in xda forum,I wanted very much like to bring Gamecube emulator to run, but which version should I use? I have read that has the emulator no controller configuration, at least the recent developer builds. but the old builds can because I do not want to play with an old build, I wanted you to ask times version which I need to mapping the controller and which version best running (play I would burnout 2, luigis mansion and bloody roar primal fury )
There is a thread here that should get you in the right direction. http://forum.xda-developers.com/shield-tv/general/dolphin-wii-gamecube-emulator-t3134032/page11
I started on page 11, because it seems to suggest older builds still work better. With that in mind, this video should allow you to run some of the gamecube games you are talking about. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCJKOKAc0Rs