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which WM6 too choose?

hey guys i've upgraded to Helmi Windows Mobile 6 the first day it came out but as i see right now there is other versions of wm6 , which one is better more stable less bugs and so on ....
Thank You

yup, same question here..
actually my OS is Helmi Windows Mobile 6 Profesional R0 CE OS 5.2.1620 (Build 18125.0.4.2) , and i would like to know if it's better to switch to WM6 Pro CE OS 5.2.1933 (Build 18533.0.7.0) or WM6 OS 5.2.2000 (Build 20000.1.0.0.PV.HAT)
i hope that somebody who tested these 3 version's could help us
thanks in advance
Luis

newkpt said:
yup, same question here..
actually my OS is Helmi Windows Mobile 6 Profesional R0 CE OS 5.2.1620 (Build 18125.0.4.2) , and i would like to know if it's better to switch to WM6 Pro CE OS 5.2.1933 (Build 18533.0.7.0) or WM6 OS 5.2.2000 (Build 20000.1.0.0.PV.HAT)
i hope that somebody who tested these 3 version's could help us
thanks in advance
Luis
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For those who dont know, PDAViet has just released a new BA rom with thse spec : WM6 5.2.1938 (Build 18538.0.7.0.PV.HAT)Touch & Office 6.1 NetCF 3.5.
it has built in TouchFlo, and als the latest .NetCF 3.5 as Extrom...
I also have tried all the WM6 version since Helmi R0 release, Xplode's latest rom and PdaViet's WM6 OS 5.2.2000 (Build 20000.1.0.0.PV.HAT).
All are good, stable and fast.
I tried Xplode's latest rom for only 1 day and switched back toPdaViet's cause I had problems:
1. Somehow, the OK button (on top right hand corner) close apps without saving it (I had this problem when using PocketInformant and PocketBreeze - weird. I put it on forum, but no one else seem to have this issue)
2. I feel that the touch screen is not as responsive as other roms -I dont know, maybe I was wrong...but this is what i feel anyway
For now, I am using PdaViet's latest rom WM6 5.2.1938 (Build 18538.0.7.0.PV.HAT)Touch & Office 6.1 NetCF 3.5.
, and its very good...

hey i hv tested all the three but i hv not found big changes in them and switch back to helmi as i hv the backup of it. all three r same as they r helmi based. so i advised to go for helmi it also has gsfinder as file explorer.

which is the best
I have tried have all three of the latest roms but the ones that are the newest is pdaviets rom with office 6.1 and xplodes. Hemlis wm6 is older than the others so any of the other 2 are better.
It seems that the speed of xplodes and pdaviets are ABOUT the same but i find that pdaviets rom is slightly faster- programs open faster, and there is no stalling. Pdaviets is more stable- when i installed pdaviets 5.2.000 i only soft reset it about once- it works flawlessly. I can open more programs at the same time without stalling and freezing with pdaviets than with xplodes. With a great combination of stability and speed pdaviets takes the cake.
Although i can not use the touch flo cube that comes with pdaviets because of i can not get rid of my older version of touchflo i installed in my BA- for some reason i can not uninstall it or remove it but i hear it works like a charm.

shazzy84 said:
I have tried have all three of the latest roms but the ones that are the newest is pdaviets rom with office 6.1 and xplodes. Hemlis wm6 is older than the others so any of the other 2 are better.
It seems that the speed of xplodes and pdaviets are ABOUT the same but i find that pdaviets rom is slightly faster- programs open faster, and there is no stalling. Pdaviets is more stable- when i installed pdaviets 5.2.000 i only soft reset it about once- it works flawlessly. I can open more programs at the same time without stalling and freezing with pdaviets than with xplodes. With a great combination of stability and speed pdaviets takes the cake.
Although i can not use the touch flo cube that comes with pdaviets because of i can not get rid of my older version of touchflo i installed in my BA- for some reason i can not uninstall it or remove it but i hear it works like a charm.
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What do you mean you cannot get rid of the older version of touchflo? After reflashing the new rom, whatever you have before will be gone..... just make sure you do the no yes yes option...
And you are rite, touchflo on Pdaviets latest rom works very well...

Just want to say yes, I am using latest rom of PDAViet too, and I love it. All bugs seems fixed. I just don't like the touchflo as I was using HTouch before and it works better (quicker, smoother, no flare, more open to add links...)

ftouch
joseph.sapri said:
What do you mean you cannot get rid of the older version of touchflo? After reflashing the new rom, whatever you have before will be gone..... just make sure you do the no yes yes option...
And you are rite, touchflo on Pdaviets latest rom works very well...
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I installed a previous version of ftouch before the one in pdaviets came out and i installed it on my hemli wm6 rom when it first came out. I did uninstall the program but although the file was removed touch flo was still active on my BA. No matter how many times i have flashed my BA to another rom ftouch is installed on my BA. It is very weird.
I did however find the ftouch program and it is located in my BA "windows" folder under "startup". When i try to delete that it says thats the file can not be deleted. I am not sure what you are talking about when you say " no yes yes" option because everytime i flash a rom it goes to the align screen option. Any help would be appreciated.

shazzy84 said:
I installed a previous version of ftouch before the one in pdaviets came out and i installed it on my hemli wm6 rom when it first came out. I did uninstall the program but although the file was removed touch flo was still active on my BA. No matter how many times i have flashed my BA to another rom ftouch is installed on my BA. It is very weird.
I did however find the ftouch program and it is located in my BA "windows" folder under "startup". When i try to delete that it says thats the file can not be deleted. I am not sure what you are talking about when you say " no yes yes" option because everytime i flash a rom it goes to the align screen option. Any help would be appreciated.
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the no yes yes option refers to cleaning up the rom i.e. similar to the concept of formating the whole rom data.... you should do this after reflashing a new rom build.
when you reset and you get to the 3 colored screen, press and hold camera + record button for about 2 sec... use record button to choose, camera button to change no/yes... and then press mail button to confirm...
its all in wiki, under the instruction on how to update rom...

I prefer Xplode's latest release...its the fastest one by far, in my experience...can't really fault it at all....I dont like the Touch Flo...it's too slow on the BA...and I don't find it beneficial at all...just a waste of resources.

joseph.sapri said:
the no yes yes option refers to cleaning up the rom i.e. similar to the concept of formating the whole rom data.... you should do this after reflashing a new rom build.
when you reset and you get to the 3 colored screen, press and hold camera + record button for about 2 sec... use record button to choose, camera button to change no/yes... and then press mail button to confirm...
its all in wiki, under the instruction on how to update rom...
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excellent! Thanks a lot joseph sapri! I just did it and i have so much more rom space and the ftouch is gone! MUCHO appreciated

no probs. I was in your position before.. . This is what this forum is for...

i see by far more people like PDAViet release
could any one provide download link and is there any thing special we have to do to upgrade from helmi WM6 ?
Thanks

Download links are in corresponding threads - THE FIRST POST usually
You should backup your data before flashing, upgrade procedure is the same as for any WM6.

Here is the link to the rom, as posted by Iced Coffee...
http://www.4shared.com/file/31606851/8e53a788/ROM_BA_Touch_8002.html
Just do normal upgrade procedure....

joseph.sapri said:
Here is the link to the rom, as posted by Iced Coffee...
http://www.4shared.com/file/31606851/8e53a788/ROM_BA_Touch_8002.html
Just do normal upgrade procedure....
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I just upgraded using this rom, but the sim card cannot be recognized. Any suggestions?

What version is the best?

Hello!
I'm new here. I'll upgrade my BA soon, so I need to know: What version of WM6 is the best?
Helmi Windows Mobile 6 Profesional R0 or
WM6 Pro CE OS 5.2.1933 (Build 18533.0.7.0) or
WM6 OS 5.2.2000 (Build 20000.1.0.0.PV.HAT)

Best WM6 ROM (as at Jan 2008)
Hi there, I have used both of the Roms at the top of your list and I find Xplodes to be faster and less buggy and I am sure it uses less power but can't prove it. I think I liked the fonts better in Helmi's Rom but it is amasing how quickly you get used to a new ROM.
One thing is for sure WM6 on the BA Rocks!
My personal pick as at today 14-Jan-2008 is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342142
Enjoy.

Another vote for xplode's ROM. It's fast and very stable.
PoGa

Xplode ROM rulez

how different
what are the main differences between helmi's and explods? i am using helmi's and am pretty happy. i would like to try explods but can't figure out how to get it to take. i can't remember if i have to manually put into bootloader or not. one thing i can say is that i don't find anymore bugs in helmi's rom than i did with some stock roms provided by phone manufactures.

retrofred said:
i don't find anymore bugs in helmi's rom than i did with some stock roms provided by phone manufactures.
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You make a great point, we often refer to these bugs as if Helmi or Xplode put them there, when really they were issues that existed in the software these guys ported to the BA.
Having recently upgraded from Helmi's to Xplodes I can say that an issue I had with fonts in Co-pilot is still there, which probably means it is with Co-pilot's WM5 version running on WM6. The ROM was definitely faster when I first installed it but now I think I have installed too many apps and it is slowing down for me.
I had an issue with my marsware weather panel causing failed boots (needed to go to safe mode, then reset) after a backup with Helmi's version, this issue is gone with Xplodes.
Both versions have inherited the 'issue' with having to turn on wifi twice.
I personally love the task/memory manager in Xplodes version, and the wireless today screen display plug in.
Either Way is so great to have WM6 on the BA.

Just updated my signature.

Duddits said:
Xplode ROM rulez
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But has helmi in his sig ^^

Import Manila to hp 614c??

Good morning guys. I searched it but I didn't find anything. Is it possible to import Manila (tf3d from HTC diamond) in hp 614c? Thank you

manilla 2d is possible if u have a english rom and it works very well for me.

Can you explain how to do it
Sorry for the stupid question but are you talking about the port of the 2D manila interface, running on HTC 3g? If so, please tell me where in the forum can I download the installation files. Are there any specific issues with the ipaq 614.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2277642#post2277642

You can also try this ROM (WM 6.1):
http://rapidshare.com/files/165082651/614_WM6.1_19971.rar this beta but stable.
password: israpda.com
Manila is in there and works very fast and stable. The same for ROM.
ROM has been cooked by Yevg001 from 4pda:
http://66.102.9.104/translate_c?hl=...rt=280&usg=ALkJrhigVfV9tLK4nQjO6pm00-lUGJN42g
To flash the firmware:
1. Unzip archive using provided above password
2. Copy flash.dio to SD card (important!!! it must by SD (<2GB) not SDHC card)
3. Turn the device off (push and hold power button)
4. Insert your SD card
5. With the same time push: record, mute and power button
6. After ~1sec release power button then remaining buttons
7. You will get "SDloader"
8. Do not touch anything until iPAQ boot itself (you can observe progress bar)
You have done...
Regards,
Bigu1975

Have you tried this rom? It has manila cooked in right? I have the auto shutdown problem with my ipaq, is it safe if i install teh power update patch by hp before putting this rom? I guess it's only rom, not a radio update so it won't affect it, but i don't want to brick it after all... Thanks

Axlastro,
Yes I am using this ROM. It is very fast and stable (it has 12MB pagepool).
Yes Manila is cooked in.
If the power update is a just patch for ROM I believe you can install it just after flash, but if I were you I would rather wait and see if the same problem is in the new ROM - if it is then I will make the patch installation.
Yes it is only Operating System (ROM) update.

Axlastro,
Yes I am using this ROM. It is very fast and stable (it has 12MB pagepool).
Yes Manila is cooked in.
If the power update is a just patch for ROM I believe you can install it just after flash, but if I were you I would rather wait and see if the same problem is in the new ROM - if it is then I will make the patch installation.
Yes it is only Operating System update.

Manila to hp 614c italian rom
I have a italian rom and it works

ROM Version
bigu1975 said:
Axlastro,
Yes I am using this ROM. It is very fast and stable (it has 12MB pagepool).
Yes Manila is cooked in.
If the power update is a just patch for ROM I believe you can install it just after flash, but if I were you I would rather wait and see if the same problem is in the new ROM - if it is then I will make the patch installation.
Yes it is only Operating System update.
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Which ROM are you useing? I am using HP IPAQ 614c CE English OS 5.2.20757 (Build 20757.1.4.0) OS 5.2.20757 (Build 20757.1.4.0) v 1.5 (yevg001) Having a hard time with BT

Formally this is WM6.1 v1.6. I described it in post #5 (above).

re: bigu1975
Hi there. I installed this rom : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446243 ,but it doesn't have manila cooked in. I will be flashing it again with the rom posted in the site. I noticed that some of the netcf programs won't work - they exit and report error. I'm satisfied with the overall performance of the wm 6.1 rom - it has all the hp goodies and even the camera works better i also notice far better booting times and file system read/write speeds. I do have active sync problems - the device doesn't always connect. So finally my question : Do you have any particular problems like those described by me with the version of the rom you are using.

axlastro said:
Do you have any particular problems like those described by me with the version of the rom you are using.
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Hi,
In general I don't have any problems related to programs. Mentioned ROM is clean, stable and it is very fast. It includes the same as HP ROM with new kernel from WM6.1 + Manila and some other useful applications which are tested and they are working fine.
I have noticed only one minor problem related to toggle WiFi using TouchFlo. It can be simple solved by the following method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2954341&postcount=9
ActiveSync - I noticed similar problems on WM6.1 on different devices. I think it is caused by ActiveSync itself. IMHO the problem is when you connect your device with ActiveSync already running. Then described problem appears. When ActiveSync is not running then it is fine. I hope I solved this problem by adding (in ActiveSync) dummy server and by setting the Sync time to manual. This already described, on this forum, solution protect ActiveSync against automatically start and also helps on syncing issue.
I have used many ROMs for 614C and I think Yevg001's ROM are simply the best. This one is the fastest one I tested. After few days of testing I recommend this one
Regards.

I have few bugs.
When I add MyFaves widget touchflo would not start and
Internet widget is not working for me?
Anyone has the same problem?

Rajnus said:
I have few bugs.
When I add MyFaves widget touchflo would not start and
Internet widget is not working for me?
Anyone has the same problem?
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MyFaves it is TouchFlo problem. I don't use it
Internet widget doesn't work because there is no Opera browser in this ROM. I think when you install Opera it start to work. On this Manila version the Internet browser link is hardcoded to Opera. As I know in the newest Manila version it is possible to change the link to different browser. At this moment the newest Manila works only on HTC devices - we can't install it on our HP.

New Manila 2D for Iolite WM6.1

Can we install (eg. with a .cab file) the new Manila 2D (see attach picture - Weather/Flipclock) on our orginal WM6.1 ROM ?

Hello Treo, try this thread.....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=541750
It will work. However I would recommend you to install first hard SPL and than a new WM 6.5 rom with this theme.......is much more complete, smoother and functional....
succes.
Frank C.

it doesn't work!
Frank Caarls said:
Hello Treo, try this thread.....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=541750
It will work. However I would recommend you to install first hard SPL and than a new WM 6.5 rom with this theme.......is much more complete, smoother and functional....
succes.
Frank C.
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it doesn't work!!!! i try it right now...
i can't change original rom before a year because i could lose italian guarantee...

The thread is verry confusing me and it isn't entirely coordinated on the Iolite.
When I update a non-HTC ROM I will lose the guarantee, So I preffer an installation of Manila with a kind of .cab file.

After you install the HardSPL, you can always restore the original SPL to your device, if you have an issue with it... And then send it back for guarantee...

Blubster said:
After you install the HardSPL, you can always restore the original SPL to your device, if you have an issue with it... And then send it back for guarantee...
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But how to restore our stock rom ?

You can dump it from your device before you flash a custom rom, and then rebuild a "stock" rom with the dumps with ervius kitchen...
Then if you need to send it back for warranty, you can flash the stock rom, then the stock spl, and you are good to go!
That is IF you can flash back, ie your screen and your usb port are still working...

I have this running and it works fine, the only problem is that the default blue O2 background is still behind the flip clock. Any ideas how this can be fixed???
Mark

rorrism said:
I have this running and it works fine, the only problem is that the default blue O2 background is still behind the flip clock. Any ideas how this can be fixed???
Mark
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How and what did you installed ?

iolite ROM on cruise

Hello.
Can it be possible to install ROM from iolite to our Cruise?
I feel myself a little bit dissapointed from all this unfinnished 6.5 ROMs for Polaris.. There is no stabil and bugs free 6.5 ROM for today.
I'm trying to search for stabil 6.1 ROM for my Polaris.
But iolite has it's nice dialer and phone canvas future - no problematic and bug free.
I tryed a lot of ROMs from here and all of them are problematic:
kastas244 Version C - very slow on my device.
Megan v1.2 - Bluetooth problems.
etc... etc...etc..
till now I used 3LITE3_VIII it is a firs sabile and almost bug free 6.1 ROM. but it has some problem with volume control.
Can some one sujest me the stabil and bug free ROM?

demon-resident said:
Hello.
Can it be possible to install ROM from iolite to our Cruise?
I feel myself a little bit dissapointed from all this unfinnished 6.5 ROMs for Polaris.. There is no stabil and bugs free 6.5 ROM for today.
I'm trying to search for stabil 6.1 ROM for my Polaris.
But iolite has it's nice dialer and phone canvas future - no problematic and bug free.
I tryed a lot of ROMs from here and all of them are problematic:
kastas244 Version C - very slow on my device.
Megan v1.2 - Bluetooth problems.
etc... etc...etc..
till now I used 3LITE3_VIII it is a firs sabile and almost bug free 6.1 ROM. but it has some problem with volume control.
Can some one sujest me the stabil and bug free ROM?
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No... you cannot install Iolite rom on Polaris...
All the custom roms are not bug free (even the official),because all these new stuffs(phone canvas..etc) are not full compatible with old Polaris...We try to make it possible but it's too difficult because we are not the HTC or Microsoft...we are simple users just like you....but we trying....

Try Kosta's A ROM, it's very fast and stable. You must flash the original RUU_Polaris_HKCSL_WWE_3.19.831.3_radio_sign_25.85. 30.07_1.59.42.15_Ship ROM, then the radio 1.59.46.12, then proceed the hard reset first.

Shurup said:
Try Kosta's A ROM, it's very fast and stable. You must flash the original RUU_Polaris_HKCSL_WWE_3.19.831.3_radio_sign_25.85. 30.07_1.59.42.15_Ship ROM, then the radio 1.59.46.12, then proceed the hard reset first.
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What vesrsion of Kosta's ROM exactly?
I tryed "C" - and it's not good for my Polaris... It's all stucks

demon-resident said:
What vesrsion of Kosta's ROM exactly?
I tryed "C" - and it's not good for my Polaris... It's all stucks
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Try Kostas244_ROM3g_23016_FINAL_A1, I have tried the 2g version. You can see on the video in his post how quick is the version. But install the original rom and correct radio as I wrote hier.