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which WM6 too choose?

hey guys i've upgraded to Helmi Windows Mobile 6 the first day it came out but as i see right now there is other versions of wm6 , which one is better more stable less bugs and so on ....
Thank You

yup, same question here..
actually my OS is Helmi Windows Mobile 6 Profesional R0 CE OS 5.2.1620 (Build 18125.0.4.2) , and i would like to know if it's better to switch to WM6 Pro CE OS 5.2.1933 (Build 18533.0.7.0) or WM6 OS 5.2.2000 (Build 20000.1.0.0.PV.HAT)
i hope that somebody who tested these 3 version's could help us
thanks in advance
Luis

newkpt said:
yup, same question here..
actually my OS is Helmi Windows Mobile 6 Profesional R0 CE OS 5.2.1620 (Build 18125.0.4.2) , and i would like to know if it's better to switch to WM6 Pro CE OS 5.2.1933 (Build 18533.0.7.0) or WM6 OS 5.2.2000 (Build 20000.1.0.0.PV.HAT)
i hope that somebody who tested these 3 version's could help us
thanks in advance
Luis
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For those who dont know, PDAViet has just released a new BA rom with thse spec : WM6 5.2.1938 (Build 18538.0.7.0.PV.HAT)Touch & Office 6.1 NetCF 3.5.
it has built in TouchFlo, and als the latest .NetCF 3.5 as Extrom...
I also have tried all the WM6 version since Helmi R0 release, Xplode's latest rom and PdaViet's WM6 OS 5.2.2000 (Build 20000.1.0.0.PV.HAT).
All are good, stable and fast.
I tried Xplode's latest rom for only 1 day and switched back toPdaViet's cause I had problems:
1. Somehow, the OK button (on top right hand corner) close apps without saving it (I had this problem when using PocketInformant and PocketBreeze - weird. I put it on forum, but no one else seem to have this issue)
2. I feel that the touch screen is not as responsive as other roms -I dont know, maybe I was wrong...but this is what i feel anyway
For now, I am using PdaViet's latest rom WM6 5.2.1938 (Build 18538.0.7.0.PV.HAT)Touch & Office 6.1 NetCF 3.5.
, and its very good...

hey i hv tested all the three but i hv not found big changes in them and switch back to helmi as i hv the backup of it. all three r same as they r helmi based. so i advised to go for helmi it also has gsfinder as file explorer.

which is the best
I have tried have all three of the latest roms but the ones that are the newest is pdaviets rom with office 6.1 and xplodes. Hemlis wm6 is older than the others so any of the other 2 are better.
It seems that the speed of xplodes and pdaviets are ABOUT the same but i find that pdaviets rom is slightly faster- programs open faster, and there is no stalling. Pdaviets is more stable- when i installed pdaviets 5.2.000 i only soft reset it about once- it works flawlessly. I can open more programs at the same time without stalling and freezing with pdaviets than with xplodes. With a great combination of stability and speed pdaviets takes the cake.
Although i can not use the touch flo cube that comes with pdaviets because of i can not get rid of my older version of touchflo i installed in my BA- for some reason i can not uninstall it or remove it but i hear it works like a charm.

shazzy84 said:
I have tried have all three of the latest roms but the ones that are the newest is pdaviets rom with office 6.1 and xplodes. Hemlis wm6 is older than the others so any of the other 2 are better.
It seems that the speed of xplodes and pdaviets are ABOUT the same but i find that pdaviets rom is slightly faster- programs open faster, and there is no stalling. Pdaviets is more stable- when i installed pdaviets 5.2.000 i only soft reset it about once- it works flawlessly. I can open more programs at the same time without stalling and freezing with pdaviets than with xplodes. With a great combination of stability and speed pdaviets takes the cake.
Although i can not use the touch flo cube that comes with pdaviets because of i can not get rid of my older version of touchflo i installed in my BA- for some reason i can not uninstall it or remove it but i hear it works like a charm.
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What do you mean you cannot get rid of the older version of touchflo? After reflashing the new rom, whatever you have before will be gone..... just make sure you do the no yes yes option...
And you are rite, touchflo on Pdaviets latest rom works very well...

Just want to say yes, I am using latest rom of PDAViet too, and I love it. All bugs seems fixed. I just don't like the touchflo as I was using HTouch before and it works better (quicker, smoother, no flare, more open to add links...)

ftouch
joseph.sapri said:
What do you mean you cannot get rid of the older version of touchflo? After reflashing the new rom, whatever you have before will be gone..... just make sure you do the no yes yes option...
And you are rite, touchflo on Pdaviets latest rom works very well...
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I installed a previous version of ftouch before the one in pdaviets came out and i installed it on my hemli wm6 rom when it first came out. I did uninstall the program but although the file was removed touch flo was still active on my BA. No matter how many times i have flashed my BA to another rom ftouch is installed on my BA. It is very weird.
I did however find the ftouch program and it is located in my BA "windows" folder under "startup". When i try to delete that it says thats the file can not be deleted. I am not sure what you are talking about when you say " no yes yes" option because everytime i flash a rom it goes to the align screen option. Any help would be appreciated.

shazzy84 said:
I installed a previous version of ftouch before the one in pdaviets came out and i installed it on my hemli wm6 rom when it first came out. I did uninstall the program but although the file was removed touch flo was still active on my BA. No matter how many times i have flashed my BA to another rom ftouch is installed on my BA. It is very weird.
I did however find the ftouch program and it is located in my BA "windows" folder under "startup". When i try to delete that it says thats the file can not be deleted. I am not sure what you are talking about when you say " no yes yes" option because everytime i flash a rom it goes to the align screen option. Any help would be appreciated.
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the no yes yes option refers to cleaning up the rom i.e. similar to the concept of formating the whole rom data.... you should do this after reflashing a new rom build.
when you reset and you get to the 3 colored screen, press and hold camera + record button for about 2 sec... use record button to choose, camera button to change no/yes... and then press mail button to confirm...
its all in wiki, under the instruction on how to update rom...

I prefer Xplode's latest release...its the fastest one by far, in my experience...can't really fault it at all....I dont like the Touch Flo...it's too slow on the BA...and I don't find it beneficial at all...just a waste of resources.

joseph.sapri said:
the no yes yes option refers to cleaning up the rom i.e. similar to the concept of formating the whole rom data.... you should do this after reflashing a new rom build.
when you reset and you get to the 3 colored screen, press and hold camera + record button for about 2 sec... use record button to choose, camera button to change no/yes... and then press mail button to confirm...
its all in wiki, under the instruction on how to update rom...
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excellent! Thanks a lot joseph sapri! I just did it and i have so much more rom space and the ftouch is gone! MUCHO appreciated

no probs. I was in your position before.. . This is what this forum is for...

i see by far more people like PDAViet release
could any one provide download link and is there any thing special we have to do to upgrade from helmi WM6 ?
Thanks

Download links are in corresponding threads - THE FIRST POST usually
You should backup your data before flashing, upgrade procedure is the same as for any WM6.

Here is the link to the rom, as posted by Iced Coffee...
http://www.4shared.com/file/31606851/8e53a788/ROM_BA_Touch_8002.html
Just do normal upgrade procedure....

joseph.sapri said:
Here is the link to the rom, as posted by Iced Coffee...
http://www.4shared.com/file/31606851/8e53a788/ROM_BA_Touch_8002.html
Just do normal upgrade procedure....
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I just upgraded using this rom, but the sim card cannot be recognized. Any suggestions?

What version is the best?

Hello!
I'm new here. I'll upgrade my BA soon, so I need to know: What version of WM6 is the best?
Helmi Windows Mobile 6 Profesional R0 or
WM6 Pro CE OS 5.2.1933 (Build 18533.0.7.0) or
WM6 OS 5.2.2000 (Build 20000.1.0.0.PV.HAT)

Best WM6 ROM (as at Jan 2008)
Hi there, I have used both of the Roms at the top of your list and I find Xplodes to be faster and less buggy and I am sure it uses less power but can't prove it. I think I liked the fonts better in Helmi's Rom but it is amasing how quickly you get used to a new ROM.
One thing is for sure WM6 on the BA Rocks!
My personal pick as at today 14-Jan-2008 is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342142
Enjoy.

Another vote for xplode's ROM. It's fast and very stable.
PoGa

Xplode ROM rulez

how different
what are the main differences between helmi's and explods? i am using helmi's and am pretty happy. i would like to try explods but can't figure out how to get it to take. i can't remember if i have to manually put into bootloader or not. one thing i can say is that i don't find anymore bugs in helmi's rom than i did with some stock roms provided by phone manufactures.

retrofred said:
i don't find anymore bugs in helmi's rom than i did with some stock roms provided by phone manufactures.
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You make a great point, we often refer to these bugs as if Helmi or Xplode put them there, when really they were issues that existed in the software these guys ported to the BA.
Having recently upgraded from Helmi's to Xplodes I can say that an issue I had with fonts in Co-pilot is still there, which probably means it is with Co-pilot's WM5 version running on WM6. The ROM was definitely faster when I first installed it but now I think I have installed too many apps and it is slowing down for me.
I had an issue with my marsware weather panel causing failed boots (needed to go to safe mode, then reset) after a backup with Helmi's version, this issue is gone with Xplodes.
Both versions have inherited the 'issue' with having to turn on wifi twice.
I personally love the task/memory manager in Xplodes version, and the wireless today screen display plug in.
Either Way is so great to have WM6 on the BA.

Just updated my signature.

Duddits said:
Xplode ROM rulez
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But has helmi in his sig ^^

WM6.1 Pro TESTs + 20931 kitchen - Updated 21.11.2008

Here are my other beta works, still have no time to finish them all
20931 kitchen - this is my attempt to port the 20931 chinese build to WWE since i crapped over the nk.exe I used helmis one for the port - this is the reason that the rom uses more ram than sun_dream's one, also touch scrolling is not working, IE6 is included but in order to make it work you need to install this cab, Flash Lite 3.1 is included, removed office, SQM, Transcriber, Windows Live, Welcome Center, IPSECVPN, and some more stuff which IMO is unneeded ... the rom so far is stable but IE6 and Flash lite work far worst than in let say 20753 for example .... try it on your own risk - it is unfinished port so you can encounter unpredicted bugs with it. You can change the kitchen the way you want but please include my nickname in the credits when you publish a roms made with it
Mirror - thanks to Kraven
enjoy
19915 rom - UC capable (included cabs) - password blueangel
20226 rom - my latest WM7 looks inside (includes Word and Excell in rom) - uses the old method for extrom (included cabs) - no password protection
Megaupload Mirror 20226 - thanks to kraven
20273 rom - the same as above (no cabs included for the extrom but you can use the ones from my previous rom) - no password for the archhive - in this rom i have slightly modified a lot of oem resources with a lightweight version in order to make this rom usable even without extrom
Megaupload Mirror 20273 - thanks to kraven
EXTROM only
Megaupload EXTROM Mirror - thanks to kraven
for my latest roms i have removed SQM, and customer experience sh** in order to lighten a lil the rom and protect personal information to be sent to microsoft
I keep it clean as i can
Rom version: 6.11.00
Rom Date: 06.04.2008
Page Pool: 32 MB
Core: 5.2.19209
Build: 19209.1.0.2
AKU: 1.02
OEM Software updated:
Sim Manager 6.41
STK_Service.dll 4.74
STK_UIPPC.exe 4.60
USSD_Dll.dll 4.22
Comm Manager 2.08
Changes from the my 19199 rom:
Updated OEM software to the latest publically available versions
Fixed bugs from my previous rom
You can use the extrom of my previous rom or cook your own
This rom is a test version, because this is the first time that i use 32 mb page pool in rom, if you are satisfied of the speed of this rom i will leave it that way for final version (it is pretty much final by now)
Download:
RUU_BA_xplode_WWE_6.11.00 - Rapidshare.com
RUU_BA_xplode_WWE_6.11.00 - Rapidshare.com
RUU_BA_xplode_WWE_6.11.00 - Megaupload.com
RUU_BA_xplode_WWE_6.11.00 - Dlacalle.es - thanks to kraven
I want to thanks to all of the donators, Especially to MDAIIIUser for the donated LCD and all the help and support in the years of rom cooking
I want to thank to mamaich (still use hes tools in rom building for BA), bepe (BuildOS is hes work - a brilliant one), in random order, tom_codon(pushing me into a right direction), mun_rus, Tuatara (constant help and support), helmi_c, itsme (brilliant perl scripts which were used for dumping all the goodies from newer roms), cmonex (a lot of help and support in reallocating and nk.exe editing) and a lot more people involved ... I appreciate your help
Lets keep Blueangel alive

Bugs
WMV playing slowdown - disable ATI bitmap caching will solve this (you can do it in TCPMP options - this is the easyest way i will make a cab for it later)

Hi, what is the meaning of the pagepool? I see lot of values but I don't understand how useful it is.
Is the WLanFix from the previous version added to this one or I have to use that fix?
Thanks a lot for your work, I'm flashing now

all the fixes are included into the rom so none of them are needed after flashing this one

Downloading ........ >> 14/4 Installed & working great
Thanks xplode .... like ur wm6 so much >> 14/4 Like it .... my first WM6.1

Well, the best Wm6.1 rom I've tried. Wifi works fine even with my WPA-PSK TKIP conection. Bluetooth and irda works fine (with version 209 from pdaviet I had some problems with BT)
Installed part of your previous extrom and all ok.
It's fast very fast. Great work man, great work.
Maybe someone knows how can I build a spanish rom? I've seen german and italian roms, so I'd like to have a spanish rom.
Once again, GREAT WORK man

wich .NET Version is this ?
is it necessary to enable the speedup patch ?

other download sites
the rapidshare guys are really irritating and keep u waiting for long....could u use some other site
thanks

thanks again for the super work, xplode!
would it be possible for you to extract the file explorer from the pdvh rom and place it here? i believe it's more advanced.

All WM6.1 roms by default have .NET CF 2.0 SP2, and i will stick to it for now, stock settings are better
the file explorer is called GSFinder you can find it in the thread of my WM6 rom 1933

thanks, i got it.

@ xplode
Sir, please upload the rom on another mirror

There are no words to describe this incredible work. The ROM works fine.I hope that there are no problems with the phone.
I'm flashing now.

i am uploading it now to megaupload

it´s a great rom, too.
but there is still a media player bug.
playing videos is terrible.
seems to be a buffering problem.
hope this will be fixed in the next rom.
playing mp 3 work perfect now !

can you upload sample video to test this bug ?

sorry, i think i can´t.
because it´s a dvd i convert to .wmv, so i can´t share it, because there is a copy right on it and i don´t want to do something illegal.
the first 5 minutes are very buggy, then everything work perfectly.
have already test it on a wm 2003 ppc, there everything work perfect.

well can you encode other video just for test with the same settings

just search for .wmv file using google and find this page.
http://www.werbeclips.net/
there you can download small .wmv videos.
i test to play one of the videos, and there is the bug !
the first 10 seconds the picture doesn´t change, so you just hear the sound.
after 10 seconds everything work correct.

tryed it , disabling bitmap cache for ati imageon solves the problem

PDAVIET ROM WM 6.5 CE OS 5.2.21820 Build 21820.5.0.40

This is not mine ROM, this is ROM from Mr. TranMinhMan, i only post info and link
ROM Informations:
- CE OS 5.2.21820 Build 21820.5.0.40 PV T2M.
- .NET Compact Framework 3.7.8345.0
- AdobeFlash
- Advanced Configuration Tool v3.3.0.0 by Julien Schapman
- CHome Editor v1.6 Beta by showaco
- dotFred Task Manager
- HTC Album
- HTC Booster
- HTC Camera 5.0.4
- HTC Comm Manager
- HTC Iolite PhoneCanvas
- HTC Random Access
- HTC Sim Manager v6.60
- HTC TaskManager
- htcAddicts cleanRAM v1_5_5
- PIM Backup v2.8.0.0 by FdcSoft
- PocketNotepad v4.0.10
- Pocket RAR v3.80 by Alexander Roshal
- PocketScreen v1.3 by JJM. Roseboom
- Synchro Time v0.95 by Dennis Grachov
- Total Commander CE v2.51 by Christian Ghisler
- psShutXP (mod)
- Windows Media Player 10.3 Build 21820 (mod)
- Bootscreen (mod)
- Some small games.
The suggestion Radio: 1.59.X.X
Up ROM Guides:
- Your Polaris must be HardSPL before up ROM.
- This ROM just has Operating System only, no Radio.
- Download and extract with the password below. Connecting Polaris with PC through USB.
- Running file ROMUpdateUtility.exe and following step by step on the windows => Polaris run BootLoader state and loading 100% => Polaris auto reset and you have new ROM.
Thread on PDAVIET can be found here: http://www.pdaviet.net/showthread.php?t=60010
Download link: http://www.4shared.com/account/file...IET_ROM_WM65__Core_21820__by_TranMinhMan.html
Password: TranMinhMan

thank you...

thanks!!!!! downloading right now!!!!!

Hi, Petulinek.
Thank you for sharing this wonderful ROM with us.
This is the first time I am flashing my ROM to 6.5 and I have chosen your ROM based on your reputation and recommendations from others. I am a little worried at first but I must say that the result has been better that I expected so far.
Just one question though, I uses the built-in locking mechanism to lock my phone. Also, I runs Mapking 2007 navigation software on my mobile phone. However, I find that, unlike WM 6.1, even though when Mapking is logged on and running, the locking mechansim still kicks in, rendering the need to unlock it. Is there a way to work around this and still have the locking function active?
Regards.

This rom works on this release very well. After install more then 60mb Ram is available. I think 3d driver is also included. All is working smooth and well.

I flashed this ROM and so far so good... It's fast and stable. I love it. I installed Opera 9.7 and it's work very well. Thank's for this ROM.
BTW... can somebody give me a link for MANILA2D in CAB version ??? (Working version.. )

Greatest Work.
Stable,Fast and without Bug.
Many Many Thanks.

calator40 said:
I flashed this ROM and so far so good... It's fast and stable. I love it. I installed Opera 9.7 and it's work very well. Thank's for this ROM.
BTW... can somebody give me a link for MANILA2D in CAB version ??? (Working version.. )
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Manila 2D link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398173

Thank you very much for M2D link ...

Biotouch.exe problem and Touchpad Input
Hello,
I just upgraded my XDA Orbit 2 / HTC Polaris 200 to the HTC POLARIS - PDAVIET ROM WM6.5 (Core 21820) by TranMinhMan.
THANK YOU!
2 questions, because I think the hardware is really at its limits here
1. when I try to slide up what used to be TouchFLO, I get an error message "Biotouch.exe" could not be opened and please try to reinstall.
CAN I / MUST I fix this?
2. somehow it just gives me 4 options for input and the keyboard is too tiny on my screen. Is there no way to use the Touchpad (called in German "Touch Tastenfeld" and is basically the keys set up like on a mobile phone?
This would be a reason to reinstall the official WM 6.1 Pro because I cannot type anything on the go this way.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP !!!!!

chaotixxda said:
1. when I try to slide up what used to be TouchFLO, I get an error message "Biotouch.exe" could not be opened and please try to reinstall.
CAN I / MUST I fix this?
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In settings - system - Advanced Settings disable in HTC TouchFLO :
Scrolling, Cube, Sound...
Then press Done, reboot and system will be little faster without error message about Biotouch.exe

chaotixxda said:
Hello,
2. somehow it just gives me 4 options for input and the keyboard is too tiny on my screen. Is there no way to use the Touchpad (called in German "Touch Tastenfeld" and is basically the keys set up like on a mobile phone?
This would be a reason to reinstall the official WM 6.1 Pro because I cannot type anything on the go this way.
!!!!!
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Install EzInput ver 1.X because 2.X is in development...search and you find it...on my polaris (orbit 2) it go 100 percent...

touch in german "Tastenfeld"
look at this post....:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426281

Hi
thanks for this Stable ROM.
How can I change the right soft key to 'Comm Manager' from 'set' in the today screen?
thanks

[email protected] said:
Install EzInput ver 1.X because 2.X is in development...search and you find it...on my polaris (orbit 2) it go 100 percent...
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EzInput 2.0 is developed and works fantastic :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=506846

battlestartaurus said:
"Just one question though, I uses the built-in locking mechanism to lock my phone. Also, I runs Mapking 2007 navigation software on my mobile phone. However, I find that, unlike WM 6.1, even though when Mapking is logged on and running, the locking mechansim still kicks in, rendering the need to unlock it. Is there a way to work around this and still have the locking function active?
Regards.
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Hi,
can anyone help with this issue, please?

I installed EzInput 2.0 It's a very nice keyboard and work fine. But I have a question... How can I input new words in dictionary in XT9 mod ?? Can somebody help me???

Petulinek said:
EzInput 2.0 is developed and works fantastic :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=506846
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Your link goes to (W)VGA version.
No QVGA there.
Sascha
[Edit]Here is QVGA

Thank you for this rom

No thumbnails or screenshots?

Diamond freezes and does hard-reset

Hi,
since yesterday Pocketwit was nog working for me anymore, with netcf 3.7, so i chose to go back a version with another rom, since then problems started to build op.. The major problem is that the phone freezes with a lot of roms, even after hard reset, and when i turn off the device(on top) or soft reset it (with the stylus) it automatically hard-resets and i have to do the first-time-setup etc.. all over again...
what should i do?
for an answer in advance: what kind of rom are you looking for? i would like to say a fast & stable windows mobile 6.1 rom with tf3d2 ... (wm 6.1 because wm 6.5 isn't fast & stable right?!)

willyy1991 said:
Hi,
since yesterday Pocketwit was nog working for me anymore, with netcf 3.7, so i chose to go back a version with another rom, since then problems started to build op.. The major problem is that the phone freezes with a lot of roms, even after hard reset, and when i turn off the device(on top) or soft reset it (with the stylus) it automatically hard-resets and i have to do the first-time-setup etc.. all over again...
what should i do?
for an answer in advance: what kind of rom are you looking for? i would like to say a fast & stable windows mobile 6.1 rom with tf3d2 ... (wm 6.1 because wm 6.5 isn't fast & stable right?!)
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You described a known problem. To prevent an automatic hardreset do the following:
1. Install an original Stock-ROM
2. Hardreset
3. Install you preferred ROM
4. Hardreset

Cheers Lycox, I'd actually been having this too this week. I was just suspecting the ROM of being unstable or my own tweaks.
Any stock ROM? And is Radio a factor?

Lycox said:
You described a known problem. To prevent an automatic hardreset do the following:
1. Install an original Stock-ROM
2. Hardreset
3. Install you preferred ROM
4. Hardreset
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Thank you this worked
Jeeves said:
Cheers Lycox, I'd actually been having this too this week. I was just suspecting the ROM of being unstable or my own tweaks.
Any stock ROM? And is Radio a factor?
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Just use a stock rom from the official htc support site!