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I've lost my phone, haven't blocked it yet or anything in the hope that Microsoft my Phones locate service will help me out. When i lost it was low on Juice, by now it would have died so the locate service isn't working... Im hoping that someone has found it, charges it, sticks their sim card in it and it will be locatable...
Is this the case? The phone will broadcast the IMEI number regardless of what sim is in it yeah? If microsoft my phone isn't finding it, and i'm phoning it several times a day and its saying 'It has not been possible to connect your call, please try again later', im hoping that its dead? If someone was actively using it with a different sim card I would be able to track it right?
I've pretty much written it off now, assuming i'll never find it, i've come to terms with that, but there's always that little bit of hope... Can anyone help please?
Cheers.
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Sorry to be a pain guys but just a bit of clarification is all i'm after.
Cheers.
Wouldn't it just go right to answerphone if the battery was dead?
Hello, friend. I am really sorry that your phone is gone..I am sure that really stinks...
Well, first: I have never tried that or spoke to a mobile rep about that, but since your phone has a specific adress and its like a vin number, i believe is the IMEI #. And GPS and everything are still in the phone. They can`t delete them or change them. Thus i believe its possible that if you call a Rep and tell them to locate it or something like that, are they supposed to help you? I've heard that iphones have that fiture, that if you loose your phone, they can track it.
That's just my 2 cents. I hope I gave you some hope... Good look mate!
Not good news I'm afraid mate. I've seen quite a few people on here say that the premium MyPhone services don't work.
If someone were to charge it and put a new SIM in it then when they switched it on it would be just like it was when you last had it, so MyPhone would run as often as you had it set to. (I don't know if the tracking is updated upon request or when it syncs.)
If I were you, I'd report it missing, both to your provider and your insurance company. Bad times mate.
so this whole microsoft my phone tracking service doesn't work? Has anyone, or anyone heard of it working...? Would o2 track it and tell me where it is? I heard they won't due to privacy infringement or whatever...but surely thats what these service are in place for, to find a lost phone?
thanks for your replies so far guys.
matt_attack_2k1 said:
so this whole microsoft my phone tracking service doesn't work? Has anyone, or anyone heard of it working...? Would o2 track it and tell me where it is? I heard they won't due to privacy infringement or whatever...but surely thats what these service are in place for, to find a lost phone?
thanks for your replies so far guys.
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Have you tried phoning O2 to ask them? It sounds like you've not exactly been too proactive with regards to recovering or safe guarding your phone thus far.
ive been phoning it every day and trying to track it. ive got in touch with the local police station to find out if its been handed in but i cant do that without saying its been stolen and filing a report which im reluctant to do right now if this microsoft my phone service works...
matt_attack_2k1 said:
ive been phoning it every day and trying to track it. ive got in touch with the local police station to find out if its been handed in but i cant do that without saying its been stolen and filing a report which im reluctant to do right now if this microsoft my phone service works...
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I'm assuming you don't have insurance? I'd think it's safe to say you've lost it, i'd file a report with the local police and try to claim via the insurance if you have it. Getting the IMEI barred is a real last ditch attempt as you can't remove the barred number from your countrys network once it's been done.
The myphone service is linked to the phone by your windows live ID. i would lock it asap with myphone, making the phone useless unless a hard-reset has been performed... After a hard-reset myphone wont be linked to your live ID anymore
I've tried the myphone premium services, and i can confirm that they work. If your phone cant be located, its just bad luck.
good luck to you my friend!
Kalavere said:
Getting the IMEI barred is a real last ditch attempt as you can't remove the barred number from your countrys network once it's been done.
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that's why i'm reluctant to block it and report it, once i clock it, i can't keep trying to locate it. if i keep trying to locate it and I fail, i'll lock it via microsoft my phone and put the message for them to contact me, leave it a couple of days, if nothing, block it through o2 with the imei. When i click get started its saying that i can try more than 2 times within a week, so ill have to wait until thursday to try it again i think.
EDIT: Can i still locate it i lock it through myphone not blocking the imei?
matt_attack_2k1 said:
Can i still locate it i lock it through myphone not blocking the imei?
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Apparently you can.
'For 7 days, My Phone will try to lock your phone. You can check the status of your lock request by returning to this page at any time.'
Have a look there, 3rd one down it gives you the usual Microsoft vague answers.
http://sn1-p1.myphone.microsoft.com/mkweb/MoreInfo.po?tsid=1270566468631
hm, so it will try to lock the phone for 7 days, but doesn't tell us if once locked, we can still track it?
thanks for your reply you've been a great help!
matt_attack_2k1 said:
hm, so it will try to lock the phone for 7 days, but doesn't tell us if once locked, we can still track it?
thanks for your reply you've been a great help!
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Microsoft are just as usual usless absolultely usless at giving you any information on any product or service they offer on their own website, and it doesn't actually say anywhere if you can still locate it. But it would be completely pointless if you locked it and it wouldn't let you actually locate the handset, so I would guess you could.
IIRC you can get it to display a custom message when it's locked from myphone. "Hi, thanks for finding my phone. Please call me on xxx-xxx-xxxx to claim your reward!"
that is correct yeah but then once locked, can i still locate it or am i souley relying on the finder to return it?
matt_attack_2k1 said:
that is correct yeah but then once locked, can i still locate it or am i souley relying on the finder to return it?
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Even if it does locate it, it's gonna be in a 50m radius, at best. Probably more in the region of a 200m radius, which is nearly the same as not knowing where it is.
If you can get it to lock and display a message, leave it for a little while and then get it blocked via the imei.
I have a replacement sim card being used in a temporary phone at the moment, I just tried to lock the phone, why am I getting a coded text to this number, surely it should be trying to lock my imei not my number?
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I have a replacement sim card being used in a temporary phone at the moment, I just tried to lock the phone, why am I getting a coded text to this number, surely it should be trying to lock my imei not my number?
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It has still got to send the phone a locking command, which is what you are getting.
As you are using a replacement SIM with the same number, you are in fact, preventing yourself from using any of the MyPhone functions, as there is no way to connect to the lost phone.
matt_attack_2k1 said:
I have a replacement sim card being used in a temporary phone at the moment, I just tried to lock the phone, why am I getting a coded text to this number, surely it should be trying to lock my imei not my number?
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Fatal error.
So, unfortunately on my way to work this morning at 5:30 am, while on the train my phone was grabbed out of my hand by a teenage boy and then her ran off the train ):
All i was doing was silencing the alarm, he timed it perfectly. SMDH
Well, i spent all AM calling toll free # to toll free #. T-Mobile/Microsoft/HTC.
What i do not understand is how NONE OF THEM were able to track the phone for numerous reasons (allegedly)
Esp. since i was unable to do it via. the Microsoft my phone website.
Also, what is the point of having to report it stolen and file a police report for the claim when I still have to pay the same thing I would if i was neglectful and lost/broke it....?
Oh sry one more question, why isnt the memory card covered if it came inside the phone?
That sucks! It sounds like the kid knew to pull the battery as soon as he got out of sight.
If he's smart, he'll probably leave the battery out for a few days, or only boot up the phone once in the early morning.
Without the battery to power the GPS, the different recovery methods won't work.
If the kid also flashes a new ROM right away, then myPhone will never find it. Not sure about HTC's method, which may include using the unique ID.
There's a cab floating around here somewhere which will email you if someone switches SIM cards on your phone, or if you send your number a special text. This only works if they don't flash a new ROM first though. And it's a little late for you
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Oh sry one more question, why isnt the memory card covered if it came inside the phone?
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Memory cards are an accessory and those are never covered
On the flip side of that, when your new phone arrives, it could very well have a new card in it anyway. Especially if they are loading them at the factory before packaging.
its no good to you now, but remotetracker can survive a hard reset if the sd card doesn't change, or be cooked in with your settings permanently, and it can cope with sim card being changed.
it also allows you to lock up the phone, wipe the card, show message on screen, get call and txt details, get location on cells when gps can't, recover any files you like, via email or even ftp. loads more, amazing piece of free software.
I wish i would have knew all of that ):
I havent even had this phone for a full month yet.
he is very bold though. smh he didnt even turn it off. me and someone called and he answered and had a whole convo! grrr
it really sucks that t-mobile cant blacklist the IMEIs like t.mobile does.
OH, AND ITS CURRENTLY BACKORDERED!!! Ugh when will it be over
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That sucks! It sounds like the kid knew to pull the battery as soon as he got out of sight.
If he's smart, he'll probably leave the battery out for a few days, or only boot up the phone once in the early morning.
Without the battery to power the GPS, the different recovery methods won't work.
If the kid also flashes a new ROM right away, then myPhone will never find it. Not sure about HTC's method, which may include using the unique ID.
There's a cab floating around here somewhere which will email you if someone switches SIM cards on your phone, or if you send your number a special text. This only works if they don't flash a new ROM first though. And it's a little late for you
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SMH. What upset me was that they didnt even attempt to track it. Esp. microsoft. i told them when online it wasnt letting me do so and they said its only an online feature and they cant help. like wth is CC for?
They treated it like it was lost although i had a police report.
taking the easy option. no one cares about anything today. lazy [email protected]$
iSEX said:
I wish i would have knew all of that ):
I havent even had this phone for a full month yet.
he is very bold though. smh he didnt even turn it off. me and someone called and he answered and had a whole convo! grrr
it really sucks that t-mobile cant blacklist the IMEIs like t.mobile does.
OH, AND ITS CURRENTLY BACKORDERED!!! Ugh when will it be over
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Can't believe he answered the phone!
Keep trying with myPhone and the second you get his position, send it to the cops!
UPDATE**
To make things worst, I woke up this morning only to check MMP, and I can see the contacts/pictures & texts that the person who has my phone are sending/saving!!! And yet Tmobile are still saying they cant track the phone number....B.U.L.L.S.H.*.T.
DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW LONG IT MIGHT BE ON BACKORDER??? ):
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UPDATE**
To make things worst, I woke up this morning only to check MMP, and I can see the contacts/pictures & texts that the person who has my phone are sending/saving!!! And yet Tmobile are still saying they cant track the phone number....B.U.L.L.S.H.*.T.
DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW LONG IT MIGHT BE ON BACKORDER??? ):
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If he is saving the pics the nit should be updating his postion, so it will tell you where he is.
hope ya harvesting numbers, i'd be harassing all his friends, and posting their number and his pics and such
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If he is saving the pics the nit should be updating his postion, so it will tell you where he is.
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View your phone's last known location BETA
See your phone's location the last time it contacted My Phone.
We don't have a location. Find out why
It still keeps saying this. It wont tell me where she is located ):
It seems like a lost cause.
Im wondering why i can see this though, is it due to my email still being attached to the phone?
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hope ya harvesting numbers, i'd be harassing all his friends, and posting their number and his pics and such
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Ugh. I wish I was able to see the persons number who actually has the phone. smh i'm shocked it isnt letting me.
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Ugh. I wish I was able to see the persons number who actually has the phone. smh i'm shocked it isnt letting me.
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well he's still using your number right...? you said you were able to call and talk to him, so the phone won't know what his number is. However, I'd put money down on the fact that the very first number he called when he got the phone, was his own, so he could get your number off his phone's incoming call. Call the very first number that appears in your t-mobile call logs as happening after he stole it, and I'll bet the same guy (him) answers as when you called your number.
Either way, I would follow samsamuel's suggestion and start putting pressure on every single person in his contact list, or even put a post up on craigslist addressed "to everybody on this a$$hole's contact list, he stole my phone"...and post every single name in there, and whatever choice commentary you feel would help flush him out
Shoot, start posting every single one of his text messages online....especially the most private or embarassing ones for he and his friends. Watch his messaging activity too and I'm sure you'll spot and e-mail address or facebook/myspace account name, something you can use to smack him in the face with info....you may not know who he is, but you certainly have access to enough info about him to make him regret it.
I'm guessing at this point he still has no idea that you can see all that about him, so use your advantage here wisely....
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well he's still using your number right...? you said you were able to call and talk to him, so the phone won't know what his number is. However, I'd put money down on the fact that the very first number he called when he got the phone, was his own, so he could get your number off his phone's incoming call. Call the very first number that appears in your t-mobile call logs as happening after he stole it, and I'll bet the same guy (him) answers as when you called your number.
Either way, I would follow samsamuel's suggestion and start putting pressure on every single person in his contact list, or even put a post up on craigslist addressed "to everybody on this a$$hole's contact list, he stole my phone"...and post every single name in there, and whatever choice commentary you feel would help flush him out
Shoot, start posting every single one of his text messages online....especially the most private or embarassing ones for he and his friends. Watch his messaging activity too and I'm sure you'll spot and e-mail address or facebook/myspace account name, something you can use to smack him in the face with info....you may not know who he is, but you certainly have access to enough info about him to make him regret it.
I'm guessing at this point he still has no idea that you can see all that about him, so use your advantage here wisely....
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That was yesterday. Afterward i suspended my acct and he must have sold it to or gave it to a female b/c she is in the pictures and by the text language I can tell its a girl...
So as of ystrday after I cut the service off, the sim card has been changed to hers but TMO wont help smh.
But you gave me a great idea. i know 9/10 i wont receive my phone back but i can make the person with it extremely annoyed *runs to craigslist* LOL
TMOBILE should really think about using some of the features Sprint/Nextel and others use....
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That was yesterday. Afterward i suspended my acct and he must have sold it to or gave it to a female b/c she is in the pictures and by the text language I can tell its a girl...
So as of ystrday after I cut the service off, the sim card has been changed to hers but TMO wont help smh.
But you gave me a great idea. i know 9/10 i wont receive my phone back but i can make the person with it extremely annoyed *runs to craigslist* LOL
TMOBILE should really think about using some of the features Sprint/Nextel and others use....
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Ahhh gotcha. Ok well yeah then I think the best you can do is just be very crafty with how you use what you can see. I still feel confident that they have no idea that myphone is doing it's thing, so just don't tip that hand too soon I know I'd have a bit of perverse fun coming up with ways to take advantage of all that!
It's interesting that myphone still updates to your same account even with a new sim/number....I guess it makes sense, since you log into an msn account to use it, and it probably only cares what data there is to back up, not what phone number or carrier account it's tied to.
Even though the myphone site won't tell you where it is, do any of the other "now what?" (premium) services show as possible? It says you can wipe the phone remotely if they work, but you may lose the insight myphone is giving you for now. But, it may become the final option at some point
EDIT: I guarantee you that T-mobile has the ability to do more to locate the phone....but without a supoena in your hand, you may never benefit from that
if u use mircosoft myphone u can lock ur phone and locate it
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if u use mircosoft myphone u can lock ur phone and locate it
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Unfortunately thats wasnt working. its said it couldnt locate.
QUESTION:
I was just in my Gmail and noticed they deleted a few non-important emails i received ystrday. i jusat changed my password on all of my accts. thats means the phone will pront the password to be updated on there and if she doesnt know it she wont be able to access it right???????
im in a trip at miami
i took a cab to this club at night and my phone slipped out of my pocket in the cab, before i realized anything the cab drove off and then my phone was missing, i called it and a girl picked up and said she had it, so i took another cab to go meet her wherever she said she was but she wasnt there, i kept calling hte phone all night and it was ringing till about 3am when i stopped trying in order to get some sleep. i woke up now and im calling and its going straight to voicemail. that means she turned the phone off or took the sim out. the phone was at around 80% battery when i lost it with wifi and everything off so it would ahve lasted the whole night
so my phone is gone!! im wondering what i can do? im with rogers in canada, is there an insurance or lost phone insurance policy that i can bring up? or is there a way they can lock that phone's usage abilities through the VIN number?
Phone rogers and get tell them its stolen. They will ban the ime so it can't be used with any sim.
Use wavesecure in the future. It can lock, track and wipe your phone remotely. Sorry about your bad luck!
If you want it that bad you can go to the police and they can find it next time when someone turns it on.Or the service provider can lock it somehow and make it useless.
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If you want it that bad you can go to the police and they can find it next time when someone turns it on.Or the service provider can lock it somehow and make it useless.
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Highly doubt that they have the time or resources for that unfortunately.
well i have a friend that bought a Iphone from unknown sources and next day the police was at his door asking about the phone.But this is in Hungary and a 400$ dollar phone theft is worth loocking into.I think there is someone who deals whit this kind of theft.But who knows.
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If you want it that bad you can go to the police and they can find it next time when someone turns it on
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Thats what i did when my last phone was stolen from me, go to the police, they will make all your country carriers search for its imei in their network and they are able to locate it too.
I got my phone after 3 months thought. :-(
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Sorry to hear about your phone dude how unfortunate. Like instigator008, you should call Rogers and tell them about your phone. Did you have your IMEI no. written down somewhere? cuz if you do I'm sure Rogers can lock the phone from anywhere within Canada. They might be able to track your phone too with the IMEI no. but I suggest next time you use a security app that tracks down your phone and locks it down as well. There's a couple of good ones but I'm not sure which. This reminds me I should do it myself too lol. Good luck buddy, and hope you get your phone back soon.
i lost my older 5800xm in a cab too, but im my case the cab driver called the contacts thqt r obvious to me "mom" "dad" and dropped it off himself, i gave him $50 and the phone itself
I am afraid Rogers will not block the IMEI, they do not do that at all unless it was stolen from one of thier locations. Silly I know. There is a lost/stolen program in place just call and see what they can do for you.. also if bough on a credit card there maybe something that can help you. Home insurance may also help.
Hi all
It just happened that I find a t-mobile Hero on a bus 52 to Victoria Station (I got off at the Royal Albert Hall and I notice it just before I got off)
I'm thinking about call one of the contacts on the address book but the screen is locked.
I haven't got any calls from it, so I can tell anybody that that phone is lost.
I'm reluctant to go into a T-mobile store because maybe they just get the device and keep it for them without even notifying the owner.
What would be your best advice in order to give it back to its right owner before s/he block the mobile's IMEI?
Regards!
Better to call the carrier, they have all his/her info
Great that you are so honest +1
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melvie said:
Better to call the carrier, they have all his/her info
Great that you are so honest +1
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He does have a saint in his name.. I would call one of the contacts if you can get into the phone, ask them whos phone this is... ( or you could root it for him and return it, he would probably be happier)
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He does have a saint in his name.. I would call one of the contacts if you can get into the phone, ask them whos phone this is... ( or you could root it for him and return it, he would probably be happier)
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Lmao. Yeah, send it back with flash working and oc'd to 800+, so it keeps their hands warm on cold November nights like now.
They usually block them straight away. Ring 'mum' or 'dad'. They're probably on shopping holiday from Croatia.
And it was all yellow...
Brings you back to that song ...
All I want for christ-mas is root (Oh dear)
It may be possible you could adb in and pull the contacts database and get home?
Not sure - i have never tried. But I really do respect your honesty on this!
/me tips hat!
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Lmao. Yeah, send it back with flash working and oc'd to 800+, so it keeps their hands warm on cold November nights like now.
They usually block them straight away. Ring 'mum' or 'dad'. They're probably on shopping holiday from Croatia.
And it was all yellow...
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how did you get to Croatia?
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how did you get to Croatia?
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It was a pleasant evening, I walked.
Hush...
This is the big failing of the pattern lock screen system... It stops malicious use, but also stops legitimate things like this.
I've always been in favour of setting a custom message on the lockscreen using CMParts, but this isn't a custom ROM (I presume).
What's worth a look is to try "adb devices" with the device connected. See if you can get it to show. This will only happen if the user has enabled USB debugging, which would suggest it could be rooted.
If it's rooted, it would be possible to retrieve enough info to contact the user. If it's not rooted, it's not going to let you get at anything...
I'm aware that any info here would help someone who had stolen a phone, so I'm not going to give away any of the tricks to get into the device by bypassing that screen.
Still, it's good to see some honest people about here... One suggestion. Remove the SIM, and put it into another device (non smartphone). See if there are any contacts on the SIM (presuming it's not PIN protected. If it is, you're stuffed from this respect, as some people might have used an older contract sim in the Hero as an upgrade phone, perhaps with a few phonebook entries you could try out?
Failing that, I'm not sure how else you could really do this You could go into the network's store, and give them the SIM, and ask them if they could get the owner to contact you, if you gave them an email address. They would probably be able to do that, as there would be no data protection issue.
HTH
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It may be possible you could adb in and pull the contacts database and get home?
Not sure - i have never tried. But I really do respect your honesty on this!
/me tips hat!
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That will only work if rooted, since you can't access /data without root on the Hero.
If you could root the device, you could sort it easily. The trouble is that it's a bit iffy... If the OP PMs me, I will give him a few suggestions in private, as he's got a long history on XDA. I reckon I can get the contact info out the phone (just had an idea )
Hmmm... Necro fail Doh!
Take the sim card out and put it into another tmobile phone, as the contacts may be stored on there, i know i do to save the hastle when getting a new phone, or use a micro sd card reader check whats on the memory card there may be some contact info.
I am glad to know that there are honest people like you in this world..
Hey guys,
I work in a shop and like two weeks ago one girl lost her S3 Neo there, as she never came back I would like to find her to return the phone. But I can't access to any info bcs phone is locked. Is there any way to remove password without performing hard reset? If i do that, she will lose all her data and is is highly unlikely that I will find something on her phone to identify her.
Also I have her SIM and and I'm going to try with her service provider if they have any information about her.
Thanks,
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Hey guys,
I work in a shop and like two weeks ago one girl lost her S3 Neo there, as she never came back I would like to find her to return the phone. But I can't access to any info bcs phone is locked. Is there any way to remove password without performing hard reset? If i do that, she will lose all her data and is is highly unlikely that I will find something on her phone to identify her.
Also I have her SIM and and I'm going to try with her service provider if they have any information about her.
Thanks,
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sky016 said:
Hey guys,
I work in a shop and like two weeks ago one girl lost her S3 Neo there, as she never came back I would like to find her to return the phone. But I can't access to any info bcs phone is locked. Is there any way to remove password without performing hard reset? If i do that, she will lose all her data and is is highly unlikely that I will find something on her phone to identify her.
Also I have her SIM and and I'm going to try with her service provider if they have any information about her.
Thanks,
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Can't you get the sim out, put it in another phone and call someone in her contacts list to let them notify her?
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Good idea!!
Rapydax said:
Can't you get the sim out, put it in another phone and call someone in her contacts list to let them notify her?
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Good idea!!
Rapydax said:
Can't you get the sim out, put it in another phone and call someone in her contacts list to let them notify her?
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That won't work if the sim card is locked, though. And does anyone even copy contacts to the sim card anymore?