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I've been thinking of getting an HTC P4350 (Herald) lately, but the one thing holding me back is the 200MHz TI OMAP 850 processor. What I am interested in finding out before making the purchase is how well the 200MHz processor handles SNES emulation. Because I play SNES games like Chrono Trigger alot, I would like to make sure that the Herald can handle these games at a decent speed before I make the purchase. If anyone can let me know their experience with SNES emulation on the Herald, I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
Hi Jester_b84
I've been using the SNES Emulator on the Herald. The games we're running good with 200 MHz processor speed of the Herald. What I have never got working is the sound of SNES games.
And I've never played your game "Chrono Trigger" but a lot of other like "Super Mario" and "F-Zero".
Another possibility is to overclock the processor for playing SNES games. Just look around the forum. I'm sure you'll find some more information about overclocking the Herald...
Raftbone
Hello raftbone, thanks for your response. It's good news that you have SNES running smoothly on the Herald. I used to use n0p's port of SNES9x and it was running great, but slightly slow on my 624MHz processor and there were incompatibilities with some games I like to play. I switched to MorphGear tonight and it ran very smoothly (with sound) on a 624MHz processor. If only I could try it on a 200MHz processor, that would be great...
Hi Jester
I'll try it for you. Just downloaded MorphGear. I only need to find some free time today to test it on the herald. I'll let you know my experience as soon as I can...
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Hi Jester
I'll try it for you. Just downloaded MorphGear. I only need to find some free time today to test it on the herald. I'll let you know my experience as soon as I can...
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Thanks raftbone! I will wait eagerly for your results.
Sorry for the long delay... I've tested MorphGear with my Herald. Games like Super Mario run very smooth, but what I cannot get working is the sound. Same problem as with Pocket SNES.
The other problem with MorphGear is, that the display does not automatically switch to landscape mode when sliding out the keyboard...
If you'd like to play SNES games, this is in general no problem with the Herald (but without sound) but I prefer Pocket SNES than MorphGear...
Hope this may help you
Thank you for your testing raftbone, I greatly appreciate it! At first, I could not get sound working under MorphGear either - but here is my solution:
- Go to Global Settings
- Make sure "Enable Sound" is checked & Volume @ 100%
- Go to SNES9x (SNES) settings
- Under "Sound", make sure both "Enable Sound" and "Emulate" are checked
- Close and re-launch MorphGear.
Now, sound should work perfectly!
Thanks for the hint. Sounds works now
So which runs faster, n0p's or MorphGear?
they're more ore less running on the same speed...
my personal favourite is still n0p's pocket snes.
don't know about yall but i was trying to run chrono trigger with n0ps and it was sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo slow
unknown00 said:
don't know about yall but i was trying to run chrono trigger with n0ps and it was sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo slow
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Did you try MorphGear? On my current PPC, MorphGear runs much faster than n0p's PocketSNES port when playing Chrono Trigger.
Hello, I was chacking out the Herald today at T-Mobile. Generally, how well does it feel to pay SNES or NES on the phone? I assume you use the directional buttons as the d-pad. What about A, B, X, Y, and L & R?
Games like Mario World are very demanding of precise control. Is the Herald a good platform for playing such games?
Thanks!
I haven't been playing SNES stuff yet, just NES games right now, but for the controls, I've found that using the slide out keyboard is a lot more comfortable for me than the built-in buttons. I map the A/B?etc buttons to the keyboard buttons (don't map to the arrow buttons though) and when playing games, I'll slide out the keyboard, change the orientation back to portrait, and launch my emulator. Games that require multiple button presses (e.g., pressing A while holding down B) are still a little difficult for me to play, but otherwise works pretty well.
As for Morphgear, I'll have to give it a try for the SNES emu...I used it for NES emu and it was slower than Pcoketnester.
Can anyone please attach the CAB files for Morphgear and the SNES module? The official Morphgear site is undergoing some work, and you can't download from there right now.
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Can anyone please attach the CAB files for Morphgear and the SNES module? The official Morphgear site is undergoing some work, and you can't download from there right now.
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Nevermind, I finally found it, but it refuses to load an SNES rom on my T-Mobile wing. It complains about a lack of memory.
24vggpd2 said:
Nevermind, I finally found it, but it refuses to load an SNES rom on my T-Mobile wing. It complains about a lack of memory.
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hey guys whats up
i downloaded morphgear but the installer only sets up the software on my pc and not to my tmobile wing (active sync is running)
any way around this?
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Nevermind, I finally found it, but it refuses to load an SNES rom on my T-Mobile wing. It complains about a lack of memory.
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Silly question but did you try a soft reset before? Did you try removing anything that takes up memory (like Today plugins) and trying again?
@vudu: What emulator are you using BTW?
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Silly question but did you try a soft reset before? Did you try removing anything that takes up memory (like Today plugins) and trying again?
@vudu: What emulator are you using BTW?
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I tried the reset. I didn't try disabling anything on the Today Screen, though I had already disabled everything except MyFavs and BatteryStatus.
It's all moot now. I returned my Wing and cancelled my T-Mobile account. Mobile IE is a spectacular POS. A web browser was the primary reason I bought a PDA phone, so when the browser sucked, the phone sucked.
I ran morphgear on my PPC 6700, it ran most games fine, would slow down sometimes if a lot was going on at once. I don't think I ever had a problem with the sound, just had to tinker with the settings. I liked morphgear much better than pocetsnes. Chrono Trigger played well, with a slight delay. The PPC 6700 has a 400mhz processor, I don't know about the Herald because it has 200mhz, but I am getting a Wing this week so I would like to know if it's worth even installing.
Guys,
Any good emulators for HTC Touch Pro 2 on the net? - GBC
- GBA
- PS
Any nice games/roms for these emulators?(for example i would like to have the whole pokemon series (from GBC to GBA (to DS if possible)))
What are your sources? sites and ****
Will there be emulators of PSP or DS or something or isnt that possible?
Thanks
Dont think those emulators exists.
I was looking for emulators of nes and sega, could find anything..
You can use morphgear if you change your IME settings so it can recognise the keyboard. However, Genesis module crashes and SNES isn't so stable either. SNES is usable though.
I've so far found FPSCe for PS(x?), Pocketgnuboy for GBC and Morphgear for GBA..
But shouldnt TP2 be able to play games from DS and PSP platforms.. it at least has a better CPU?? or doesnt that have anything to do with it?
xdadJeroen said:
I've so far found FPSCe for PS(x?), Pocketgnuboy for GBC and Morphgear for GBA..
But shouldnt TP2 be able to play games from DS and PSP platforms.. it at least has a better CPU?? or doesnt that have anything to do with it?
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Please note, you need to emulate EVERYTHING from DS and PSP! Our beloved Pro2 isn't capable of that!
Simply try to play a GBA game with sound enabled and you know how many power such an emulation would need!
P.S.:
Have you tried PocketGBA for GBA games? Loved it on my old dead Diamond!
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But shouldnt TP2 be able to play games from DS and PSP platforms.. it at least has a better CPU?? or doesnt that have anything to do with it?
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Just because it has a higher CPU speed, does not mean it should be able to process stuff from other platforms better.
All CPUs have different architectures. The CPU in the Touch Pro2 is an evolution of the ARM architecture. The DS also uses an ARM class processor, but uses a different instruction set.
The PSP uses a MIPS CPU.
Modern computers use variations of the x86 architecture.
The reason why they are called "Emulators" is because they have to emulate the instructions and architechture of the processor of the other device. This wastes a HELL of a lot of your own devices CPU cycles.
This is why running a PlayStation (33MHz MIPS CPU) emulator on a 500MHz x86 PC CPU is pretty slow, despite having 15x the CPU speed.
Does anybode here have a NES or/and SNES emulator, which one supports landscape modus ???
I am using an TP2
1.53 CRASHEs after i try to load the selected rom.
Thanks a lot !
After I have watched the following video, I found that TP2 is quite smooth for playing some games on emulator.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9b0BXy55KI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Awp1PlK2A70
You can also try emulating PC (not just DOS). You can mount any ISO as CDROM drive, there is Windows95 image ready to use, so no need to install, just start it up and play with it.
I got it all to work, it's not very slow, sometimes I click on something and it opens in 1-2 seconds, so not bad.
Not something to install games and play, but something cool to show off and play with.
I managed to add NE2000 network card but couldn't get network to work yet.
Works well on Touch Pro2, including Landscape mode.
After you press F12, hardware keyboard Enter key works as mouse click (single and double click). F5 turns full screen on.
Instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3581848&postcount=258
P.S. There also is older MAC OSX image, loads pretty quickly under that emulator.
I think SNES emulator works...
you may try this..
http://freewareppc.com/utilities/pocketsnes.shtml
Not working on my TP2..
Gives a SEND - Do not send error after i chose the rom to load..
Is there anyone who managed to make it work on the tp2 ?
oke thanks guys for emulator info and software..
now.. what kind of nice games/software you guys got installed on your babies..?
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oke thanks guys for emulator info and software..
now.. what kind of nice games/software you guys got installed on your babies..?
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wow, wait a sec.. does that mean that you managed to make an emulator work for the TP2 , which also supports landscape and full screen ?
If thats the case, than i wanna know where i cant find the software, before we go further with the games
If there is someone here in this whole forum, who wants it the most, than its definitely me
Im curiously waiting for a reaction ....
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wow, wait a sec.. does that mean that you managed to make an emulator work for the TP2 , which also supports landscape and full screen ?
If thats the case, than i wanna know where i cant find the software, before we go further with the games
If there is someone here in this whole forum, who wants it the most, than its definitely me
Im curiously waiting for a reaction ....
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oohww.. no.. sorry i made you all enthousiastic for nothing
i ment thanks for the info about why the tp2 probably wont be able to handle psp & ds games.. and the software suggestions like.. fpsce(ps) pocketgnuboy(gbc) pocketgba/morphgear(gba) pocketsnes(snes)..
(allthough i thought that the gba emulators are in landscape what i saw on youtube.. but don't wanna give you false hope)
laterss..
I'd definitely be getting on this when I get my TP2 next week. I love using emulators for gaming on my Wizard and will definitely find ways to get SNES,PS,GBA working.
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I'd definitely be getting on this when I get my TP2 next week. I love using emulators for gaming on my Wizard and will definitely find ways to get SNES,PS,GBA working.
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Morphgear is working perfect on the Touch pro2
( NES - SNES - GENESIS - GAMEBOY ETC )
Here is a usefull link for it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425646
i came across a site that was crapping about an psx emulator??.. what's psx?
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i came across a site that was crapping about an psx emulator??.. what's psx?
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psx is playstation one. FPSeCE will run playstation games on Windows Mobile. There is a new version that should be coming out soon I've been keeping an eye on this one.
www.fpsece.net
and how about a c64 emu for wvga?
the *morphgear* is a great emulator (nes,snes,mdrive,gboy,gboycolor....) to full screen mode u have to go in the config settings,tap the vgame u'll play(nes,snes....) and change de zoom 100% to window size. u have to change de driver to (auto to GDI) , in orientation stay in north. to config the inputs u have to tap your virtual keyboard and tap "other inputs method", if u don't to it u'll stock inthe config input method and the number 229 will appear in all buttons. thanks
Anyone had any luck with emulation for the TP2? I knew this thing didn't have a D-Pad so... portrait mode is out of question. Now landscape should work but doesn't... at least in full screen(1/6 of the screen to be exact!). The only ones that worked somewhat were Morph Gear (shows 1/6 of the full screen in landscape mode) and Pocket Nester (only portrait works but doesn't rotate when opening keyboard (YES, I tried pocket nester plus also and checked landscape with no avail). I have to admit something... I've been away from WM for a year now and have grow fond of Android. The app store is nice and everything is compatible. WM MAIN PROBLEM is most dev. have left for Apple/Android/Palm...(jk! about Palm, lol) and/or haven't updated their programs in 2 years. Plus, having 8 different common screen size resolutions doesn't help much either. Emulation (albeit, sounds silly) is (or should be) big part of my pda's functionality. The screen isn't as responsive as I had hoped for a smartphone without a d-pad/trackball either. Android/iphone's touch screen is super responsive and I figured WM would be better is they had added the newer capacitive type of touchscreen. I'm really thinking of returning this phone. For $300, it should have been a lot better. I bet developers will come back when WM6.5 comes around with the marketplace and all. But who knows... Before you all start flaming, please remember I've been here for several years and am just a little frustrated after hours of trying to figure out what works and what doesn't with my old programs. Also, if anyone finds a solution for better emulators, PLEASE feel free to post something. I will do the same as soon as I regain my composer and get some sleep. I really hate to completely abandon WM and would like to find a solution. The TP2 really has a lot of good points but I'm sure most know what they are and what are some of it's shortcoming (which are aggravating me right now). It is pretty new and will sure to have a lot more folks working behind this sub-forum section soon enough. It is a pretty damn cool phone... just pissing me off right now. Please make a comment or suggestion below.
Good night!
I believe Morph Gear WILL work out as a good all-around emulator. As resting my mind somewhat, I realized there is an option to stretch rom image to full screen in the individual emulator console settings (example: SNES console). Combined with the k for Raphael app., landscape mode WILL work. And about the touch screen and D-pad, more force on the touch screen DOES help for better responsiveness for use without the stylus. The D-pad is somewhat made up for with the zoom bar (which sometimes zooms or scrolls (depends on what app you're using). Since I have answered my own questions (without any help from you all! ), let this be a lesson to all newbies... even old folks (members, I should say) make mistakes. I think I'll keep the TP2 (major dilemma avoided) but WM should take a lesson from apple/android and get capacitive screens!
I guess we'll have to wait on WM7 for that though
I had the same problem with Pocket Nester. I actually had to revise my comment. This is basically a bump.
I have the (telus) TP2 and have got morph gear working if you have a ctrl key there is and easier way but to get it working on my phone i downloaded KforTouchPro and morphgear start KforTP and hit switch to M$ IME then minimize then slide out my keyboard and open morphgear (i have found sliding after causes plroblems) and then im free to play (however another issue if i touch the landscape Right side of the screen if gets all screwed up but if i touch the landscape Left side of the screen it goes full screen.
If you really wanna go portrait this MIGHT work http://www.slipperybrick.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/bt_gamepad.jpg
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I had the same problem with Pocket Nester. I actually had to revise my comment. This is basically a bump.
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I got pocket nester plus to work along with k for raphael. The up down left right arrows are backwards so it'll take a second to figure it out.
On my Wing, Pocket nester would work in landscape mode when I turned GAPI off in the graphics settings. haven't tried on the TP2 yet. The lack of a dpad is a game killer.
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On my Wing, Pocket nester would work in landscape mode when I turned GAPI off in the graphics settings. haven't tried on the TP2 yet. The lack of a dpad is a game killer.
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yeah, it takes some getting used to, for sure... I had PLENTY of practice with my good old HTC Dream (which has a trackball) but actually once you get used to the arrows and keys on the landscape physical keyboard, your gameplay improves. Mainly, becasue there is more room for your fingers. I used to use my HTC Wizard with the D-pad and it was great but some games were hard to play with the dpad and two hardware softkeys. BOY, that was a great phone! It had so many keys to map for portrait mode (5 plus the dpad! Another small flaw with the TP2. only volume keys and a back button are mappable. I'm sure we'll get the speaker/mute button working on the back soon enough. well, a bad strom is here and I am afraid for my pc's life... so I must go! lol... I hope my surge protector works well. **** it, I'm pulling the plug...
I use Morph Gear for my emulation. Although it slower then other programs it's still playable. I can use the keyboard for playing and can stretch the screen so It looks pretty good especially with the image smoothing on.
One thing I do recommend is FPSeCE this is a playstation emulator. You can search around google for version 9.6 it works great in landscape. The framerate is a bit slow on some games but most are playable. FFVII puts out around 30-40 frames for me with sound off and keyboard works great. Just make sure you have the GFX set to GAPI, Landscape right, and that you start the program with the keyboard open. If you do that you won't need the WVGA fix to use it.
I'm really curious if it might be possible to use a bluetooth controller... I would totally rock a BT modded SNES with my TP2... ::dreams::
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On my Wing, Pocket nester would work in landscape mode when I turned GAPI off in the graphics settings. haven't tried on the TP2 yet. The lack of a dpad is a game killer.
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i just cant for the life of me figure out why people still use these poorly written old fasioned emulators when SmartGear exists!!
http://www.bitbanksoftware.com/private/smartgear.zip
full screen in landscape on my tp2 with FULL keyboard mapping support.
NES, TG16, GG, Gen, SMS, GB, GBC
tgwaste said:
i just cant for the life of me figure out why people still use these poorly written old fasioned emulators when SmartGear exists!!
http://www.bitbanksoftware.com/private/smartgear.zip
full screen in landscape on my tp2 with FULL keyboard mapping support.
NES, TG16, GG, Gen, SMS, GB, GBC
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Never heard of smartgear. That's why I still used those old fashioned emulators. Unfortunately even the best software can't give the TP2 a dpad.
Thanks for the heads up. Ill give this a whirl.
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Never heard of smartgear. That's why I still used those old fashioned emulators. Unfortunately even the best software can't give the TP2 a dpad.
Thanks for the heads up. Ill give this a whirl.
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W A S Z work just fine as a dpad. then I O K L for X Y A B
tgwaste said:
i just cant for the life of me figure out why people still use these poorly written old fasioned emulators when SmartGear exists!!
http://www.bitbanksoftware.com/private/smartgear.zip
full screen in landscape on my tp2 with FULL keyboard mapping support.
NES, TG16, GG, Gen, SMS, GB, GBC
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Tried Smartgear and its good!
Now it needs SNES and GBA support
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Tried Smartgear and its good!
Now it needs SNES and GBA support
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ya, thats the only thing lacking.
feel free to let the author know you would like him to finish SNES:
http://www.modaco.com/content-page/...o-gameboy-emulator-for-sp-beta-test/page/940/
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Never heard of smartgear. That's why I still used those old fashioned emulators. Unfortunately even the best software can't give the TP2 a dpad.
Thanks for the heads up. Ill give this a whirl.
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The days of the dpad are over unfortunately. Android ( G1-Magic) devs are now making touchscreen virtual dpads that work great for their emulators.
Hopefully we will see those soon here. They have some really nice emulators already.
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W A S Z work just fine as a dpad.
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Maybe for you, but not for me. I play games where pressing diagonal directions is important. That doesn't work out so well when using a keyboard. Smartgear doesn't emulate the sound correctly on my favorite game, Bases Loaded. It's still a pretty good emulator though.
kable said:
The days of the dpad are over unfortunately. Android ( G1-Magic) devs are now making touchscreen virtual dpads that work great for their emulators.
Hopefully we will see those soon here. They have some really nice emulators already.
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Without a multi-touch screen, I think screen controls are a non-starter. Lack of tactile feedback is also a bummer.
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Maybe for you, but not for me. I play games where pressing diagonal directions is important. That doesn't work out so well when using a keyboard. Smartgear doesn't emulate the sound correctly on my favorite game, Bases Loaded. It's still a pretty good emulator though.
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the phone doesnt support multitouch though, so onscreen controls are going to be much worse than using WASZ
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the phone doesnt support multitouch though, so onscreen controls are going to be much worse than using WASZ
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Check this out!
If I can get this to work, I'll be in business!
After the Dream
After seeing the amazing emulators for the G1/Dream (especially the gba emu) I am somewhat disappointed that the winmo emulators that are out are really no where near as good as whats running on android. My theory is that android has proper support for the graphics chip on board and this is just one more reason I think android running on a TP2 would open up so much potential for the TP2's hardware. But hey if someone could get an emulator running at full speed at the 800x480 resolution that would rock. I would even take 640x480 with black borders if it had good frame rates. Imagine running the tv-out and having your own console emulator. I really hope that the marketplace will open up doors for more support for these kinds of things like it did for android. My G1 has been out for a year next month and boy has it come a long way. Winmo has had a huge headstart which I think will help jumpstart the market.
Does anyone have a good working GBA emulator that has on screen buttons, d-pad and A,B? I had a really nice one that worked well with my Raphael but I can't seem to find it anywere.
Thanks,
Gotwake424
why on screen if you have a slide out keyboard
Ok, well id rather play it in portrait then in landscape, but at this point im just trying to get a working one, that would be nice
Morphgear works fine for some roms (it's not free though).
From a certain size of the rom it runs out of memory on my tp2. It seems to be a bug with the program, not you tp2 actually running out of memory.
Alternatively, there are several freeware emulators, not hard to find at all. But I haven't tried any of those.
Hello.
I've been trying to find a working GBC emulator for a very long while. I have pocketgnuboy which runs perfectly, but the virtual pad doesn't appear. It works, so I can still move about, but I can't see the buttons which makes it difficult.
Is there any way to fix this, or is there a better emulator? I've tried PocketGBA and that doesn't run for me. I've used the search function and couldn't find an answer. I've been on Google for absolutely ages and I've gotten no information.
Thanks.
Having the same problem with it too. And I cant get it to go into land scape mode
I only really want portrait mode. I don't think there would be space for the virtual pad in portrait.
Try smartgear. Not free but it not only supports gameboy roms, but also nes, snes, gamegear, and a couple more I believe. Google it, download the trial, and perhaps you'll see it's worth the money.
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Try smartgear. Not free but it not only supports gameboy roms, but also nes, snes, gamegear, and a couple more I believe. Google it, download the trial, and perhaps you'll see it's worth the money.
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Works like a charm! thanks for the suggestion