Hi,
A great achievement by the members who made TMC with iGO8 possible. It works fantastic.
However, I think there is one handicap to get the best out of it.
If you while driving leave (temporarily) the signal area of the FM-broadcast-transmitter, it takes iGO8 often a very long time to find an alternative TMC broadcast/frequency.
I think this is caused by not supporting a facility of RDS that is called Alternative Frequencies (AF) + Programme Identity (PI) code.
This supports the FM-tuner in finding - and switching to - an alternative frequency in a split second even of the same broadcast.
That way Traffic Information gets really up to date and much more realiable to drive on. Especially, when you have to decide in a short period which route to take, every minute without TMC counts.
My questions
1.Has anyone an idea if my assumption is right
2.If so what can be done to improve this matter?
So maybe we can make TMC from good to perfect (literally on the Touch)
I am very curious to your reactions.
As this has nothing to do with the Blackstone itself, you are posting in the wrong section. Report this issues in the thread you have the driver from, so the people contributing will notify it .
johnpatcher said:
As this has nothing to do with the Blackstone itself, you are posting in the wrong section. Report this issues in the thread you have the driver from, so the people contributing will notify it .
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Hi,
I think the question is if the FM-tuner, that is part of the Blackstone product-delivery is capable of RDS + AF + PI-support.
And if not: if and how that could be implemented. According to the information of HTC the Touch with te same processors does support this.
If this post still should be relocated please let me know.
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Just found official information that the Trinity will get GPS
See folowing link to the latest HTC brochure.
http://www.europe.htc.com/z/pdf/products/HTC_PRODUCT_BROCHURE_V2_111006.pdf
Guess many of us are happy now
read the bulletin - "Standalone GPS" means an indipendent accessories that provide GPS connectivity... it will be available shortly, which is not a specially fresh news since standalone BT GPSs' have been on the market for a while now (Haicom etc)
its all a bit ambiguous - if you have a look at the way they write up the p3300 you see there choice of words is "standalone gps"
it doesn't matter, even without the GPS function i will still get a set
As we say in Germany : The one who can read has a clear advantage... Trinity will not have GPS on board, period. Xenov, first post, welcome, you are excused...
Lucas0511 said:
As we say in Germany : The one who can read has a clear advantage... Trinity will not have GPS on board, period. Xenov, first post, welcome, you are excused...
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Let's interpred the text this way: HTC will not praise their latest top notch product in the first line of text with "Standalone GPS" when in reality it is a separate GPS device. This is not like HTC.
When "standalone GPS" means a seperate GPS device, then this text would apply to all today's pocket PC's... and HTC would not use this phrase in the first line of text to praise their new pride...
Time will tell, let everyone judge for his/her own...
Mate, read carefully: The "standalone" GPS refers to the HTC 3300, and that is the HTC Artemis, not Trinity. But by now HTC boss Peter Chou must have understood that you are really keen on GPS ))
And as we say in Germany : Other mothers have beautiful daughters, too. Look at this baby, a competitor to HTC Artemis, with GPS:
http://www.etencorp.com/products/Communication/x500.php
IMHO the standalone perhaps means that they will release the HTC branded BT GPS module
Lucas0511 said:
Mate, read carefully: The "standalone" GPS refers to the HTC 3300, and that is the HTC Artemis, not Trinity. But by now HTC boss Peter Chou must have understood that you are really keen on GPS ))
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At both devices HTC mentiones "Standalone GPS": P3600 aka Trinity AND P3300 aka Artemis... Sorry but this is the way it is... can't change it
English - the worlds most ambiguous language......
Either HTC's marketing department is completely useless or they wanted us to stir up this debate for a reason (time for another paranoid pill)
or
we are all just kidding ourselves
(probably the latter)
inevitably only time will tell
What about letiting it mean that unlike the Artemis that comes with stand alone gps and program installed, Trinity will have stand alone gps, but without the program. So that you can choose whichever provider you like
Cheer up guys!!
If there would be GPS "in" the device, all those people testing the device would have noticed it for sure.
From what I read earlier, the GPS is already inside the device but it has not been activated as it conflicts with the Quad-band GSM chip. However, it is said there there will be a ROM upgrade in the future that would finally make the GPS module usable once the conflicts have been fixed.
From the PDF file, I would think that it supports the reports above. Reason being, for both the Trinity and Artemis, they are noted to have standalone GPS and we know for sure that the Artemis already has it.
I guess the reaon for them putting the * and saying that it would be available shortly for the Trinity is likely due to the reports where they are working on fixing the problem and would release a ROM upgrade to enable it in the future.
What do you guys think?
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If there would be GPS "in" the device, all those people testing the device would have noticed it for sure.
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You might be right providing the GPS hardware is connected by software somehow.
The way I understand the situation is that the GPS unit is in the hardware, but not connected by software. Production of the hardware is running from mid october so the hardware won't change anymore.
The only way HTC can make the promised "standalone GPS available shortly", is by software update...
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What do you guys think?
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Agree....
Nice Trinity pics, even for those (like me) who do not understand Polish.
http://pdaclub.pl/view.php?news_id=11939
I guess you guys should check this this out; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279546 for clarification.
ah a beauty! white version triumphs big time over the black version...
if theres so much conflict abt the GPS issue in the Trinity why cant HTC rectify the problem then release the Trinity with GPS or discard the Quad-band GSM chip n use another chip!?!?!?
Thanks for the piscs, really nice the white one.
Hope we can enjoy the GPS on a next ROM upgrade. The time is more close...
Being involved into GPS business, I can say that "standalone GPS" would mean "standalone GPS mode" an opposite to AGPS, or even DGPS/RTK (though I doubt the latter). Read e.g. here:
The resulting AGPS system boosts performance beyond that of the same receiver in a stand-alone mode.
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If it was an external unit, I'm sure it would be called as such with additional "optional" remark.
Hi,
I am currently looking for a piece of software that will do a specific job, or possibly a better solution to what I am trying to do. Let me give you a little bit of background...
I have got an O2 XDA Mini S, and a Parrot hands-free kit that does not support the A2DP bluetooth profile (only the handsfree profile). I am currently using TomTom 6 on my XDA with a bluetooth GPS unit. Everything works really nicely together, except I cannot get instructions from TomTom through my parrot (which is ultimately my goal).
The only way I can see of getting the TT instructions through my Parrot is to make use of the programs floating about that allow you to turn on and off redirection of sound through bluetooth. The idea I had was that if there was a program about (or maybe even write something myself) that would be able to signal when the sound coming out of the XDA exceeded and then dropped back below a threshold level, and then somehow link that into the bluetooth redirection programs, I could basically have any sound that is produced go through the Parrot only when they occur (including obviously the TT instructions).
Does anybody have any ideas on this? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Point UI, a UI wrapper, has a feature similar to what you're describing. It's used just to save battery power by turning on BT only when an incoming call is detected, and then killing BT after the call is ended. I don't know if it's open source, but you might want to head over to their forums and see if you can find out how they did it.
You probably also want to haunt any TomTom forum sites (if any even exist).
As a final option, look into Mortscripts. People have done amazing tricks with Mortscripts, and this might be just the ticket. Mort haunts these boards, and may pipe in with an "I can (or cannot) do that with Mortscript" too...
I have a question, though. What's wrong with using the Wizard's built-in speakers for getting directions?
Myrddin Wyllt said:
I have a question, though. What's wrong with using the Wizard's built-in speakers for getting directions?
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To be honest, it's not too bad through the speakers although if I have my radio on which I usually do, sometimes it can be a little bit hard to hear, and it would be nice to just have the radio mute while it gives me the directions.
It's more of a "want" than a "need" really.
Thanks very much for the info
Myrddin Wyllt said:
Point UI, a UI wrapper, has a feature similar to what you're describing. It's used just to save battery power by turning on BT only when an incoming call is detected, and then killing BT after the call is ended. I don't know if it's open source, but you might want to head over to their forums and see if you can find out how they did it.
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It is quite easy for programs to detect when you're in a call - MortScript, I presume, probably can detect that quite easily as it's an overall Windows feature and will probably have a readily available part in the API.
The problem is not with turning the bluetooth on and off, it's actually detecting when TomTom is giving an instruction. To be honest I think I'll look into MortScript and if that can't do it then I'll probably just give up.
Detecting phone calls isn't that easy, and it's especially not easy to make a check in a simple procedural script language like MortScript (up to WM5, there's no way to check whether a call is active, you have to monitor all the time if a call is accepted or hung up).
Detecting sound output of another application is entirely impossible - at least for most applications. If the app opens the output channel only during output (which most don't because it takes valuable time and causes ugly "click" noises on some devices), one could maybe query the number of free output channels - but that would need a CPU hog monitoring all the time, or half of the message would be over until it's detected.
And even if that would work, there's simply no way to redirect output to a BT headset (except with A2DP). At least on most devices. Once there was a simple way to do that (you just had to open a virtual port, and as long as it's open, everything was redirected similar to the A2DP way nowadays), but most manufacturers didn't implement it, and nowadays it seems like no modern device supports it anymore. (Had it for test purposes in a MortPlayer beta, no user reported it works...)
So, to put it short: Currently it's impossble. Maybe WM8 might change that... (Few hope for WM7, it's proposed to have the same kernel as WM5 and WM6.x)
Hi all
Does anyone know of a tweak to allow radio to be played without inserting a wired headset, I often listen to music via bluetooth and would like the option of radio as well, thanks in advance.
By the way, I did search the forum before posting this as I know you guys have certain protocols in place.
Cheers.
try this and see if it works
Change the following registry : HKLM\System\State\Hardware\Headset from 0 to 1
hi, thanks for the reply.
I don't have my headset with me today but after I changed the reg the radio still would not play directly through the phone, what exactly should this reg edit do?
it should make the phone think that a headset is plugged in..havent tested it myself to be honest but it should work..however whether or not you will have a signal from the radio is another story
Dude, ther is no use for this... Even if you would get the device to start the radio without the headset pluged in, there would be no sound since the headset is the antenna...
So it would be like you are watching tv without cable... no reception!
There must be at least something in the mini usb plug. I found that it works at least a little bit when plugging in this thing only and playing the sound over the internal speaker though reception is poor at best.
http://www.pdashop.nl/product-gallery/41080/0
Good luck!
There is some use to it... although the wire is the antenna the phone will act as an antenna also so you will recieve some signal it just won't be as strong.
Without fully testing there is no way of telling how good the signal would be, surely a phone that can pick up a GPS signal and a mobile signal should be capable of also picking up a radio frequency?
no, its not possible:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=432619
ok, I get the message. Thanks for all your help.
OT - I searched "Radio without Headset" accross this forum and had no hits.
I noticed that innocent people get shot down when they don't search before posting a question, how are they supposed to get decent results with a search engine that doesn't work properly. - Great site guys, the people here really know there stuff but perhaps go a little easier on people who search to no avail before posting. You don't have to reply to the post and if you do wouldn't it be best to simply give the answer or direct them to another post, up to you but it doesn't help anyone to just put - SEARCH THE FORUM or RTFM (a new one on me!)
Hope you see the point of this post, I am simply giving my opinion as an outsider who has just purchased a Diamond and I'm just getting into mods and tweaks!
p.s. Loving the GPS cycle computer. Best app by far!
GSM is in a very much higher frequency band, so it uses a very much smaller antenna than you would need for your radio. This is two very different systems. It will not work without an antenna
Hi everyone,
I already posted this thread a few days ago in the "Questions and Answers" forum, but since there weren't many reactions (maybe it was not the appropriate place for it), I'll see if I'll be more successful here.
Okay, here is the idea. I have a HTC Touch Diamond 2 and I was thinking that it could be interesting to try to use it as a remote control to pilot a small car or plane (using the Bluetooth frequency).
I found several receivers in the 2.4 GHz frequency band, but I'm not sure whether it could work or not. Here are a few: link 1, link 2, link 3.
So the main questions are:
- Is it possible to program my HTC so that it sends information the receiver will 'understand', which is without having to add any supplementary electronic components between my phone and the receiver (or is there a hardware problem with the kind of signal that I can transmit with my phone and the kind of signal these kind of receivers can get, like a frequency incompatibility or something else)?
- Is there by any chance already an app that allows me to do just that (or something close to it that would need minor modifications)?
On top of this, I was also thinking of adding a camera on the car that would send back to my phone what it records. But this more than optional since it probably will make things much more complex... (I found transceivers such as this one and this one, but it looks like a lot of work to install and configure them).
Thank you for your answers and your help in advance!
hello there, what I want to say you, that there is nothing impossible.
a few weeks ago i downloaded archive from torrent tracher called "ppc essentials" in this archive I found alot of interresting apps and also 1 that actually did is, recorded any type of signal and then you coulded emit it with your pda later, i dont remember the name, maybe something like "remote..." im not sure, oh and i have same pda as you and had no luck with using it, not sure why, maybe u will have more luck.
cheers.
Thank you for your answer d1m0n69, and sorry for the delay.
I'll look for this and see if it can help me .
i've tried some methods got from this site but failed. The newest Hypergps can run and scan FM band on s200, but cant receive TMC signal. so i cant use TMC function in igo primo.
refer to:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=497977
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512630
Hi,
seems neotouch and HD2-users are all stuck, because there is no information available on how to extract the TMC-info from the chipset.
So there has been no progress concerning the two in the threads you have already linked.
What makes things worse is, that you can have RDS-Info on the neotouch by default when listening to the radio.
So there is proof of principle, but without support from within the task to make TMC available to the device seems almost impossible, which in fact is a shame!
I would also love to have TMC available, right now the best substitute is trafficMate, unfortunately the information can't be used by igo for instance and there will be charges for wireless connection used.
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Hi,
seems neotouch and HD2-users are all stuck, because there is no information available on how to extract the TMC-info from the chipset.
So there has been no progress concerning the two in the threads you have already linked.
What makes things worse is, that you can have RDS-Info on the neotouch by default when listening to the radio.
So there is proof of principle, but without support from within the task to make TMC available to the device seems almost impossible, which in fact is a shame!
I would also love to have TMC available, right now the best substitute is trafficMate, unfortunately the information can't be used by igo for instance and there will be charges for wireless connection used.
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good info,
it means that RDS Radio can get RDS data by using broadcomm dll, but Power Radio can't by using GFMAPI.dll.