Having updated the ROM via HTC's website ( version 1.23.405.103 ) on my P3600 and installing Trinityhacks, I still cannot get the GPS icon to appear ( let alone the GPS itself) in the SETTINGS;SYSTEM menu, it only began to appear in the CONNECTIONS menu after i installed Trinityhacks.
I have 2 GPS programs (one of which is TOMTOM) which are installed and working perfectly, the only problem is that the GPS is not, and i can't figure out why! Please help,
Thanks
You don't need the GPS Setting CPL unless you want to change the default settings, which for most apps shouldn't be necessary.
Make sure in TomTom, you set the GPS prefs to Built-IN GPS Receiver (if you are on V6.03) or Other NMEA Receiver (NOT Other NMEA Bluetooth Receiver) if you use any earlier version.
COM port must be set to COM9 and Baud to 57600.
Once those are set, the GPS screen within TomTom should show a small revolving icon in the upper right part of the screen. Within about 30 seconds, the main screen should change from No GPS Device, to Waiting for a valid Signal. At that point you need to go outside with a clear view of the sky for a 1st fix.
If you continue to get the No GPS Device message, it suggests either the ROM didn't update properly, or there is a hardware fault.
Thank you for your help, It now all works after a hard reset, and have been playing with the GPS ever since. Great fun.
The icon is no problem and it not being there wont affect you much,
If you do want it, the easiest way to display it without modifying the resistry is to install an tweaking application like ' Trinity Hacks v2'. this is an excellant wee application that lets you easily make all kinds of settign adjustments without going into the registry.
If you do a search on the trinity forums its easy to find.
Good Luck!!
Hi all,
I have a problem... The GPS on my Athena worked, but I tried to fix it I wanted to enable change the power mode to Trickle, so I installed SirfDemoPPC , changed the output mode to SIRF binary, and finally decided not to change the power mode, so I just hit Cancel, and changed the protocol back to NMEA.
Now I can't connect to the GPS anymore, Tomtom can't see it, and I don't know what is going on. I tried to connect SirfDemoPPC to all COM ports without success...
Please help!
Silviu
silviu.h said:
Hi all,
I have a problem... The GPS on my Athena worked, but I tried to fix it I wanted to enable change the power mode to Trickle, so I installed SirfDemoPPC , changed the output mode to SIRF binary, and finally decided not to change the power mode, so I just hit Cancel, and changed the protocol back to NMEA.
Now I can't connect to the GPS anymore, Tomtom can't see it, and I don't know what is going on. I tried to connect SirfDemoPPC to all COM ports without success...
Please help!
Silviu
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There are two answers: Try looking in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308606
Alternatively, try doing a hard reset (after backing up your data). The suggesiton is that setting GPS software to Sirf disables the GPS temporarily.
Don't use SirfDemo anymore - test out the GPS using GPSView or GPS Tuner.
apd said:
There are two answers: Try looking in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308606
Alternatively, try doing a hard reset (after backing up your data). The suggesiton is that setting GPS software to Sirf disables the GPS temporarily.
Don't use SirfDemo anymore - test out the GPS using GPSView or GPS Tuner.
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Hi,
Don't worry about using SirfDemo anymore - I swear I'll never touch this piece of sh*i again (provided I get my GPS back to life).
I tried hard resetting, the problem is still the same. I will try removing the battery and letting the PDA lose its current. I read this *might* put the GPS receiver back into its initial state.
I also tried to contact the guy who made SirfTech, and try to understand what the error messages mean.
Silviu
OK, I removed the battery for a night and now the GPS receiver came back to life... Problem solved
Something tells me I won't try any soon to change anything in the receiver
Regards,
Silviu
i did the same: removed battery for overnight
but GPS still not fixing
neo_strut said:
i did the same: removed battery for overnight
but GPS still not fixing
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Try the solutions in my post (above - #2)
neo_strut said:
i did the same: removed battery for overnight
but GPS still not fixing
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Hi,
What exactly is the problem: the GPS can't get a fix, or your programs (Tomtom etc.) cannont connect to the GPS?
In my case the problem was that the programs couldn't access the GPS anymore.
If your programs see the GPS but can't get a fix, it's a different problem.
Hope this helps,
Silviu
GPS can't fix
silviu.h said:
Hi,
What exactly is the problem: the GPS can't get a fix, or your programs (Tomtom etc.) cannont connect to the GPS?
In my case the problem was that the programs couldn't access the GPS anymore.
If your programs see the GPS but can't get a fix, it's a different problem.
Hope this helps,
Silviu
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hi, thanks for reply...
the GPS can't fix at all after 20 minutes....of course outdoor under clear sky
I'm using M700 Glofiish with built in GPS SiRF Star III chipset
I also tried using GPStuner as recommended above...still can't fix, not sure if it's software or hardware problem
one thing, i used SiRFtech...
1. there are signals from "Find Port & Baud"
2. Protocol: NMEA
3. Baudrate NMEA 0 Effective 0
4. Errors FE=0 PE=0 OE=0 QOE=0
???
any idea?
Thanks so much
Try the free GPSView program, that is the best for getting a FIX I find.
Make sure you use QuickGPS to download the data first as well.
Hold it up above your head and wave it at the sky?
I think there might be a problem with your unit, there are several people on the Eten forum who had this problem and had their M700 replaced. See http://eten-users.eu/index.php?showtopic=6586 and generally speaking http://eten-users.eu/index.php?showforum=42
Silviu
try reflashing the radio on the device, GPS firmware is all controlled by that, so flash it and cross your fingers
Hey guys, I have always had issues with tomtom getting a sat fix for the longest while. A couple weeks ago when I was messing with tomtom i was like screw this and went to google maps and enabled the use gps feature and got a fix. I then went back to tomtom and my sats came up in 3 seconds or so. Now my question is ... is it a coincidence that my tomtom getting gps fix quickly whenever i use google maps to get a sat. Or is it some kind of internal gps storage thingy ... not sure what I am trying to say.
But still guys with the xperia who been having issues try getting a fix with tomtom and see how long it takes. Close tomtom and use google maps to get a gps location and after u do get yourself on gps, close google maps and go back to tomtom.
Let me know what you get, everytime I tried this it worked for me ... not sure why or what is going on. But tomtom7 takes forever to load up with the x1 compared to google maps.
I just posted on another thread that I think there is an issue with gps on x1. Mine was working super fast on both satnav and google maps and then just stopped working at all. I now have the same problem as another poster that my x1 will not get a lock at all so sending it back for replacement on advice from sonyericsson support.
load up google maps and get a fix then close google maps then load tomtom and see if u get anything then. That works for me.
No. Afraid even google maps doesnt get a lock at all. Tried pairing the phone with a bluetooth gps receiver and all software works perfectly and fast so definately a hardware problem on the phone sadly.
it might be nothing but...
i had a problem with tomtom:
gps nav was working (selected internal gps antenna) but screen was grey, i could see my movement but no calculations.
gps was working in google maps.
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Problem was: i disabled my phone in comms manager
off: aircraft mode
off: phone
on: bluetooth
on: wifi
tomtom says i'm in aircraft mode, and doesnt show collors, calculations or routes (actually it does show routes but doesnt update it when i change it).
OK, plenty of tom tom, igo, naviman, laviman threads. This one is for general GPS issues...for example goolemaps and igo are moaning about lack of GPS, ive tried turning of bluetooth thinking that thats taken up some come ports etc but no joy.
I've reset and can get it working from time to time so not total failure
Thoughts, suggestions etc?
dogbreath said:
OK, plenty of tom tom, igo, naviman, laviman threads. This one is for general GPS issues...for example goolemaps and igo are moaning about lack of GPS, ive tried turning of bluetooth thinking that thats taken up some come ports etc but no joy.
I've reset and can get it working from time to time so not total failure
Thoughts, suggestions etc?
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settings->GPS->software(first tab)->define a com port, your choice
->hardware (second tab)->leave this port at none
->advanced (third tab) -> CHECK, auto manage
in google maps, set software to let windows manage your gps automatically.
if this solves the problem, we can talk about igo, if not, it's something else
Thanks for taking the time to reply, all my settings are as you stated...after a reboot it works, even in the lounge watching tv
strange, works sometimes and then doesnt.
Noticed someone has the same on the igo thread
to me the gps Hardware works absolutely fine. I am shocked in seeing that MN7 reports 7 satellites inside the house, even if not stable, and that HDOP outside building is an amazing 1.1 meters with 9 satellites being received. quickgps is also great, BTW.
The only issue (see navigon thread) is that Navigon doesn't keep the gps port alive....but i found a workaround. Works perfectly with TomTom, but TomTom doesn't want to sell you TT7 so....byebye TomTom
I have observed some flakiness with GPS when you let programs just figure out the settings for themselves.
For example, TomTom would keep aquiring and then dropping the GPS fix every few seconds - when there should have been a good 11-satellite lock.
After I configured all apps to force them to use COM4 at 4800bps (as configured in Settings-> System -> "External GPS Settings"), I've had no more problems.
J
ILikeFish said:
I have observed some flakiness with GPS when you let programs just figure out the settings for themselves.
For example, TomTom would keep aquiring and then dropping the GPS fix every few seconds - when there should have been a good 11-satellite lock.
After I configured all apps to force them to use COM4 at 4800bps (as configured in Settings-> System -> "External GPS Settings"), I've had no more problems.
J
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This SHOULD be the way to configure. what happening is:
by doing the settings->GPS, OS takes over the actual GPS hardware, and channel the data to a virtual software port (the port on the first tab, say port 4).
by default TomTom is set to "use built-in GPS" which is the actual hardware, so TomTom and Windows Mobile are fighting over control of the actual hardware, the only way to resolve is to time-slice (share) the hardware-> you get 1 second use of it and i get 1 second use of it. this is why if you set to use com4, it will actually work BETTER.
google maps and live search were developed closely with windows mobile, when you set to use "auto gps" in these two applications, these to software actualy passes the handle to windows mobile operating system, and let the OS auto configure. so even though on the surface those two apps are showing auto-manage (despite the similar naming from the settings->gps 3rd tab), they are actually letting the OS auto-manage, and behind the scene, the software is pointing to the software port (com 4) you have set in the settings->gps.
Can't change hardware port
I am able to change hardware port and baud rate on settings-external gps, but those do not get saved. When I open settings-external gps again, hardware port always goes back to none/4800. My IGO8 still seems to get a lock relatively quickly those
I've noticed that disabling the A-GPS solve the "repeated get fix / loose fix" issue. Also, disabling the GPS logging with Schaps' advanced utilities helps the GPS work smoother.
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I've noticed that disabling the A-GPS solve the "repeated get fix / loose fix" issue. Also, disabling the GPS logging with Schaps' advanced utilities helps the GPS work smoother.
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These are the standard settings on my german 1.14 ROM.
clandestino_usr said:
I've noticed that disabling the A-GPS solve the "repeated get fix / loose fix" issue. Also, disabling the GPS logging with Schaps' advanced utilities helps the GPS work smoother.
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What tool do you use to disable A-GPS?
You can use Schaps Advanced Configuration Tool (http://www.touchxperience.com/).
The relevant settings are under the 'GPS' section.
You need to have .NET Compact Framework 3.5 installed for the app to work.
Hi
There is an application called GPSTest which I have used before and it works on the HD.
I have used this also in the past on a Tytn II that was no behaving right with TomTom (turned out it was TT misbehaving again!)
I have version 1.04 from http://www.chartcross.co.uk/products/WM00002_details.asp
This is freeware.
When I run it the result is COM4 & 9800 Baud.
Regards, D
changing GPS configuration
I guess the question I have is whether it is worth doing? Right now I have software port enabled to COM4, no hardware port, and A-GPS enabled. If I disable A-GPS, and change settings to hardware port (e.g. com4/9600), does my gps performance improve?
Thanks
I have a big problem with my GPS.... no GPS find on my device !
I have software port enabled to COM4, no hardware port 4800 bauds & GPS in auto mode by WM
Schaps Advanced Configuration Tool :
- assisted GPS : disabled
- log file : \windows\GPSLogFile.txt
- old log file : \windows\GPSLogFileBack
- Max. log file size : 0
GPSTest : GPS setting in auto, but impossible to find the GPS in my touch HD !
and the same if I try with TT7 or google map !
Please help me
dj_gigi said:
I have a big problem with my GPS.... no GPS find on my device !
I have software port enabled to COM4, no hardware port 4800 bauds & GPS in auto mode by WM
Schaps Advanced Configuration Tool :
- assisted GPS : disabled
- log file : \windows\GPSLogFile.txt
- old log file : \windows\GPSLogFileBack
- Max. log file size : 0
GPSTest : GPS setting in auto, but impossible to find the GPS in my touch HD !
and the same if I try with TT7 or google map !
Please help me
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Just to make sure, are you trying it while outside with a clear view of a good chunk of the sky?
Petrov.
dj_gigi said:
I have a big problem with my GPS.... no GPS find on my device !
I have software port enabled to COM4, no hardware port 4800 bauds & GPS in auto mode by WM
Schaps Advanced Configuration Tool :
- assisted GPS : disabled
- log file : \windows\GPSLogFile.txt
- old log file : \windows\GPSLogFileBack
- Max. log file size : 0
GPSTest : GPS setting in auto, but impossible to find the GPS in my touch HD !
and the same if I try with TT7 or google map !
Please help me
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I almost have the same problem. Just got my HD this morning and wanted to try GPS, but there is even no Settings=GPS icon. When I tried the Google Maps, it did not find any GPS hardware. This was not a problem of being in a clear sky, there is something wrong as no GPS is recognized to start with. Would anyone be able to point us to the right direction please.
Regards,
michael_r said:
I guess the question I have is whether it is worth doing? Right now I have software port enabled to COM4, no hardware port, and A-GPS enabled. If I disable A-GPS, and change settings to hardware port (e.g. com4/9600), does my gps performance improve?
Thanks
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Anybody can help with this? Thansk
hmm, tried gps test had gps one minute and not the next
Solution , work-around?
I had the same problem, in 5 nav apps, gps hardware drops every few secs and come back again.
Tried reg edit (buffers, com ports, etc) portforwarders, standing on my head, nothing.
Solved by doing full back-up, hard reset. all was well. put back-up back, without reg offcourse, still worked fine.
just had to do some work because of lost reg settings, like settings for some progs..
Hope this helps.
Cheers.
zSpinner said:
I had the same problem, in 5 nav apps, gps hardware drops every few secs and come back again.
Tried reg edit (buffers, com ports, etc) portforwarders, standing on my head, nothing.
Solved by doing full back-up, hard reset. all was well. put back-up back, without reg offcourse, still worked fine.
just had to do some work because of lost reg settings, like settings for some progs..
Hope this helps.
Cheers.
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Dude, this backup...you talking ROM re-install or backup of data like contacts and then hard reset?
Hello. Last hour i have been looking for the answer to my question, with no results.
I googled and i searched in the forum, but everything is the same as before.
I just wanted to use the gps on my pda...a few days since i got it, and now i am beginning using the gps.
I have downloaded two applications, what i want is to check the speed and altitude, at least. I have richesse GPS, turbo GPS.
The option is ticked in the wmobile menu (let application turn on the gps).
The fact is that i launch the application, turn on the gps, and nothing works. No altitude, no compass, no coordinates of my position (X Y).
What is missing? i have also updated the quick gps application.
don't know the apps in question but gps generally don't work indoors so try outside
Can you download and install Google Maps, run it and tell it to use GPS, it should work no problems. That way we can tell if it is a hardware or software problem.