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TMC ist a nice thing for navigation-software to react automaticly on current traffic-situations. Most of the software products use this feature.
For this a TMC-receiver must be implemented in the GPS-receiver. The Trinity and other likely PDA´s have it not.
Now my idea - or a simple question:
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It must be possible to receive data of the current traffic over the i-net over GPRS/UMTS or maybe per SMS. A download in the office or at home over WLAN should be possible to.
Theoreticaly this data can be used for programming a "software-TMC". This could be realise the using of different data-sources for every navigation-software.
I think about using or re-programming the software-com-port in WM5 or higher (start/settings/system/extern gps) which maps the hardware-port com2: to GPD1: by default (other combinations are possible!)
The Point is now:
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How to integrate the traffic-data into the data-stream of the software-com-port GPD1: (or any equivalent port)
This is only an idea...
Oh yes, before i forget:
Answers contents "Who wants this?", "Using of TMC is free and mobile-internet cost money!" are not wanted. Please forgive, but thats not what i want to hear. I know this fact!
But the using of mobile-internet becomes more cheaper and many users have mobile-data-flatrates or volume-packages! Mobile-Internet is growing more and more!
PSlease forgive my maybe "strange" englisch, but I write text in englisch not very often!
pps:maybe that there exists an software that could do the thing I wanted, but I searched in many forums and search-engines - nothing found...
Jassi_1975 said:
Now my idea - or a simple question:
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It must be possible to receive data of the current traffic over the i-net over GPRS/UMTS or maybe per SMS. A download in the office or at home over WLAN should be possible to.
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Route 66 Navigate 7 or 8 and TomTom does just that.
In Route 66 Navigate 7 it's free of charge, in Version 8 and all TomTom Versions it's not.
Sascha
SaBo said:
Route 66 Navigate 7 or 8 and TomTom does just that.
In Route 66 Navigate 7 it's free of charge, in Version 8 and all TomTom Versions it's not.
Sascha
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That´s the point !
I use iGO. This and many other navigation-software has tmc implemented. Using of TMC is free.
I knew the feature of TomTom. TomTom go its own way in providing traffic-information by money. Route66 and Navigate are not my way - I personaly favorite iGO or navigon.
And: I don´t want to change my navi-software.
My endeavor is to use every traffic-information with every software for free!
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Route 66 Navigate 7 or 8 and TomTom does just that.
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You sure about Route 66? I've been using Route 66 Navigate 7 for several years, and I could never get traffic to work. I ended up switching to CoPilot Live 7.
Besides the programming of the tool as such I'd expect you'll run into the following issues:
- locate a TMC server that provides the regarding Data for free. Myself I don't use it but I presume e.g. the Route66-Server at least requires a login and that might could be locked to owning the software. TMC-Pro normally is NOT for free!
Alternatively you maybe could grab the Data from a free Traffic Server from HTML, but those normaly don't provide TMC-Pro Data, only the stuff officially announced on the Radio (the "ordinary", free TMC data; at least it is like that in Germany) and hence are not really very useful.
- reprogramming/hacking of the regarding Routing Software so it accepts the Data from a Com-Port or anything. At least the commercial Programs hardly are free so I'd presume you'd need to hack it - and that is illegal, anyway.
I'm not aware of any routing Software provided under the GPL, but maybe I'm mistaken there.
Hence I think this is gonna be a very difficult task, though I definitely like the idea!
Cheers,
Markus.
Hi, i think the idea is very cool...
I use TomTom 6.032 with my HTC Touch Cruise...
keep on working!
I will subscribe to this thread.
have fun
nother said:
Hi, i think the idea is very cool...
I use TomTom 6.032 with my HTC Touch Cruise...
keep on working!
I will subscribe to this thread.
have fun
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Sorry, but you can not use TMC with TomTom...
But with Igo an Navigon, so it would be real a great thing,
when we were able to download the tmc data.
Christian72D said:
Sorry, but you can not use TMC with TomTom...
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That is not exactly correct.
While you can't use a TMC receiver with Tomtom their online Traffic Service provides just those data.
If I got it correctly that's just the bit Jassi_1975 wants to be replaced by a free of charge alternative.
Cheers,
Markus.
HobGoblin2006 said:
But with Igo an Navigon, so it would be real a great thing,
when we were able to download the tmc data.
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Using Navigon I'm very interested aswell. Before Navigon I had Alturion and it worked great. Since Alturion stopped marketing I miss it. Navigon has the option TMC it only doesn't work with GPRS, just with a BT mouse. Having a Kaiser I find it ridiculous buying an extra BT mouse only for TMC (I have a flat free GPRS abo). Being a noob I have to rely on the experts on the forum, so please have a look
The idea is great.
I had this idee a while ago but aint that good programmer.
My idea wat to use a website in the NL (where I live) and get traffic data from that,
store it on your device in a file, next emulate a TMC port for fo rinstance igo and you dont have to hack the program.
obermuem said:
- locate a TMC server that provides the regarding Data for free. Myself I don't use it but I presume e.g. the Route66-Server at least requires a login and that might could be locked to owning the software. TMC-Pro normally is NOT for free!
Alternatively you maybe could grab the Data from a free Traffic Server from HTML, but those normaly don't provide TMC-Pro Data, only the stuff officially announced on the Radio (the "ordinary", free TMC data; at least it is like that in Germany) and hence are not really very useful.
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That´s right, there are some services in html from where we could free collect the traffic-informations. Maybe it´s usefull to plan an "ONLINE-Collector" or so ...
But think about:
http://www.verkehrsinfos.de
http://mobil.verkehrsinfos.de
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- reprogramming/hacking of the regarding Routing Software so it accepts the Data from a Com-Port or anything. At least the commercial Programs hardly are free so I'd presume you'd need to hack it - and that is illegal, anyway.
I'm not aware of any routing Software provided under the GPL, but maybe I'm mistaken there.
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I don´t want to reprogramm/hack any Routing Software - I want to reprogramm (or hack) the given "port-switching" in Windows-Mobile!
So ANY Software which uses TMC can use ANY provided traffic-information. Ok any information we can collect.
btje said:
The idea is great.
I had this idee a while ago but aint that good programmer.
My idea wat to use a website in the NL (where I live) and get traffic data from that,
store it on your device in a file, next emulate a TMC port for fo rinstance igo and you dont have to hack the program.
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This is what I want - the local-data-file is needed, sure
Great idea! There are plenty of free sites with traffic info available, so if you can get this to work it would be awesome. I'd love to test it if you ever get it going. Good luck!
When you think further, it would be possible, that the programm runs in backround an updates every 5 Minutes, perhabs, so you would be able to have the latest traffic messages on your device!
I was looking for the same thing as I used MIO Map. I gave up and now I'm using Garmin Mobile XT which uses I-net and downloads realtime traffic. I don't have any idea how it does it though. Hopefully someone can come up with a solution!
Chris
I don't thing that this is really a big problem to make, the only programm is to someone to do this!
Add me on to the list of people wanting this solution. My personal favourite navigation software is IGo, and ONLY reason I sometimes switch over to TomTom is because I have traffic subscription and it works. If it works with IGo, it would be bye-bye TomTom.
If someone comes up with a solution, i'm willing to donate/pay for it.
same here, if it's worldwide
i will also donate round about 10$ , what about you other guys?
Some devices have built in FM Radio with RDS. Why not use this feature for traffic info?
greetings
Hello all,
I have a HTC Magic. And was wondering if there is any software I can buy which allows real-time Sat Nav? (something like TomTom)
Anyone?
Check out AndNav2 in the market
Why not tomtom?
darfri said:
Why not tomtom?
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TomTom is only supported in Windows OS phones, not Android.
Will check out AndNav2!
andnav2 just doesnt work for me. It doesnt like post codes most of the time. It takes almost the entire journey to calculate a route only then to occasionaly take you via another country.
If you are mega stuck then its great and it is free so i cannot moan to much. I just think TomTom is much more reliable (gosh i cannot believe i just said that)
hey everone i wanted to put a good gps software on my hd2 so i wanted to know is there any good gps which doesnt requires internet connection on the phone to work...cuz i go to places where the etwork is not present...so i wanted some thing that'll work like my gps device...
The best I can find so far is iGO8.
FerretAD said:
The best I can find so far is iGO8.
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does it need internet or web on the phone?
No, it is running offline.
Bib_x said:
No, it is running offline.
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but i need for us thats one is for europe
There are maps for nearly the hole world.
I was woundering if I was using an internet does GPS cost extra onto my contract?
iGO8 is best GPS software for me. I tried all software for GPS and after all I've come to the conclusion that the best IGO8 in combination with Gurjon or DiMka skin and my color scheme.
Pretty tweaked and flexible software. iGO use internal maps and don`t use any internet or similar connection.
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There are maps for nearly the hole world.
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alright got it...but is there any option to download from the net? cuz the office is too far for me
Try to use Google.
FileFixer said:
Try to use Google.
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thank you and thank you everyone for your help
I have seen many videos of iGO Navigation on youtube and must say that application is nowehere near GARMIN XT app... Garmin simply turns your phone into GARMIN NAVIGATION itself. Very responsive, obtains satelite signals quickly, maps for the whole world, etc - you name it...
Note: Garmin XT is no longer on sale by it's manufacturer but some retailers still have some left. If you google it you will be able to find it.
I will try to do Garmin XT demo on my HD2 and post it for others to see how better it really is
eenbox said:
I have seen many videos of iGO Navigation on youtube and must say that application is nowehere near GARMIN XT app... Garmin simply turns your phone into GARMIN NAVIGATION itself. Very responsive, obtains satelite signals quickly, maps for the whole world, etc - you name it...
Note: Garmin XT is no longer on sale by it's manufacturer but some retailers still have some left. If you google it you will be able to find it.
I will try to do Garmin XT demo on my HD2 and post it for others to see how better it really is
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does it need internet on the phone? or just runs with out it
Most of navigation software is offline - without internet connection.
TomTom, igo8, garmin, navigon, ndrive, ... all offline navigation
The US version of IGO is OnCourse Navigator. The only problem I had with Oncourse is that it required you to use their SD card which last time I checked was only 8gb. Garmin and Tom Tom were only 2 gb cards. I use CoPilot as it allows you to use your own SD card. The only thing you need to make sure of is that you deActivate every time you flash your phone. I've used all the programs listed and find them all to be very nice. Also CoPilot is also the cheapest at about $30.
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does it need internet on the phone? or just runs with out it
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Forgot to mention that BUT did state that you completely get NAVI UNIT out of that APP...
To answer your question - no, it does not use the internet at all. You can use it for better signal acquiring and for Garmin / Google Searching options - but that's up to you whether you want it or not...
I'm using Gamin Mobile XT and loving it. It's the same as my real Gamin that I decided too sell my Gamin 350. No text to speech like my 350, but who cares.
I have been trying to find the best GPS software to use on my phone. I have tried all the different kinds of apps (Garmin, NDrive 10, iGo…..) but found that Garmin seems to be the best with the maps it uses. The only problem is that the Garmin Mobile XT v5.00.20w is a bit old for most people.
I have been thinking about why Garmin stopped updating the Garmin Mobile XT software. I realized that Garmin is only updating the Garmin Asus Nüvifone M10 – which is actually running on Windows Mobile 6.5.3
Therefore, I wanted to update my Garmin Mobile app to the version that is being used on the Nüvifone M10 so I can also have junction view and 3D views and all the new cool things.
Anyhow, I found the new ROM files for the Nüvifone M10 and even the contents of the ROM which include the updated Garmin Mobile app itself. I tried so many things to make the thing work but end up with an error that won’t load the app. I thought it would be as easy by just copying the new files over from the Nüvifone M10 ROM, but I was wrong.
Does anyone think they can help me with this project? I don’t think it would be a hard thing but I just can’t figure out how to make the new Garmin Mobile XT app to work.
I have a Windows Mobile 6.5.3 phone (Samsung Omnia 2) and would love to have Garmin Mobile XT v 5.86.10 working on my phone
I would really appreciate anyone’s help. Thank you so much!
Great idea! Sorry I'm not able to help much. Will help to test once you get it working though.
+ 1..
i second that..
ucsbas said:
I have been trying to find the best GPS software to use on my phone. I have tried all the different kinds of apps (Garmin, NDrive 10, iGo…..) but found that Garmin seems to be the best with the maps it uses. The only problem is that the Garmin Mobile XT v5.00.20w is a bit old for most people.
I have been thinking about why Garmin stopped updating the Garmin Mobile XT software. I realized that Garmin is only updating the Garmin Asus Nüvifone M10 – which is actually running on Windows Mobile 6.5.3
Therefore, I wanted to update my Garmin Mobile app to the version that is being used on the Nüvifone M10 so I can also have junction view and 3D views and all the new cool things.
Anyhow, I found the new ROM files for the Nüvifone M10 and even the contents of the ROM which include the updated Garmin Mobile app itself. I tried so many things to make the thing work but end up with an error that won’t load the app. I thought it would be as easy by just copying the new files over from the Nüvifone M10 ROM, but I was wrong.
Does anyone think they can help me with this project? I don’t think it would be a hard thing but I just can’t figure out how to make the new Garmin Mobile XT app to work.
I have a Windows Mobile 6.5.3 phone (Samsung Omnia 2) and would love to have Garmin Mobile XT v 5.86.10 working on my phone
I would really appreciate anyone’s help. Thank you so much!
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We need a bit more than just the exe and some dll ... as long as the registry part is missing there's not much we can do. A link to the that Nüvifone M10 ROM you are talking about could be helpful.
cheers
Here it is, the OEM, SYS and EXTROM folders dumped from Nüvifone M10 ROM V6.22.0
h..://w...mediafire.c../?rdjt4oa4r86te24
If you could help, that would be real nice Thanks
This thing won't let me post the link
hmmmm
"warez"
dont stir **** up with garmin. get a nuvi phone. ripping it off that phone is a big no no to be done here in xda-dev.
bevoc said:
"warez"
dont stir **** up with garmin. get a nuvi phone. ripping it off that phone is a big no no to be done here in xda-dev.
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Umm, no. mobile xt is freely available from garmin. Its the maps that are warez.
jj62mtp said:
Umm, no. mobile xt is freely available from garmin. Its the maps that are warez.
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wrong. every copy of mobile xt must be activated. maps are free, except for city navigator.
GArmin mobile xt 5.0.20 has to be purchased and activated at a garmin center. dont give me any of that garmin is giving mobile xt as a free app crap.
all garmin app comes free either with a nuvi pna or a nuvi phone. without their device the only app available for wm is mobile xt WHICH IS A COMMERCIAL PRODUCT. so jj62mtp, get your facts straight.
it is still "WAREZ" when you are trying to rip it of like this
too bad, woulda been nice if this was possible
Anything is possible!! Don’t let people discourage you. Everyone has the right to their feelings and ideas. That doesn’t mean that I care about their feelings and ideas. Plus, people do pay for the maps (City Navigator) and yet just want something up to date to run them on.
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Anything is possible!! Don’t let people discourage you. Everyone has the right to their feelings and ideas. That doesn’t mean that I care about their feelings and ideas. Plus, people do pay for the maps (City Navigator) and yet just want something up to date to run them on.
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well yeah i totally agree. very unfortunate that garmin is only releasing this for that particular version. im one of those that have those maps, but would like something newer as well. so good luck if you, or anyone else, decides to do it.
bevoc said:
wrong. every copy of mobile xt must be activated. maps are free, except for city navigator.
GArmin mobile xt 5.0.20 has to be purchased and activated at a garmin center. dont give me any of that garmin is giving mobile xt as a free app crap.
all garmin app comes free either with a nuvi pna or a nuvi phone. without their device the only app available for wm is mobile xt WHICH IS A COMMERCIAL PRODUCT. so jj62mtp, get your facts straight.
it is still "WAREZ" when you are trying to rip it of like this
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Wrong, the software Garmin Mobile XT is free available and is automatically activated when you buy a Garmin GPS Receiver.
Garmin Mobile XT can not be bought seperated.
And maps, except Open Street Maps, are not free. Either you buy them or u are eligble for a free mapupdate.
Btw. Garmin MobileXT v5.20 is doing what it should do, navigating.
JCV and 3D Buildings is a nice to have, but if ur device is not powerful, then it won't work
i think one thing we can all agree on is that it would be in garmin's best interest to release a new version for our phones. if there's a market for the product, fill that niche. who knows, maybe they are working on it. but im not the type of person just to buy a new phone for a new app. i'd rather use what i have, and im sure there are plenty of people like me. garmin should cater to the customer, not the other way around.
I figured out how to solve this problem but I need a bit of help. Can someone go through the Que.exe file and see what files are needed to run with the application? This might help – I know that the app uses -- img.dir, img_ce.dir & img_480.gir as part of the program. Please find the list of files that this app uses.
ucsbas said:
I figured out how to solve this problem but I need a bit of help. Can someone go through the Que.exe file and see what files are needed to run with the application? This might help – I know that the app uses -- img.dir, img_ce.dir & img_480.gir as part of the program. Please find the list of files that this app uses.
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Looks like the following libraries:
Note_prj.dll
WININET.dll
cellcore.dll
WS2.dll
AsuDateTime.dll
DDRAW.dll
COREDLL.dll
ole32.dll
OLEAUT32.dll
commctrl.dll
protobuf.dll
AYGSHELL.dll
libGLES_CM.dll
Thank you so much for your help. I found all the *.dll files except for protobuf.dll
However, I find the dll files in a folder content but without a actual file called *.dll
Does anyone know which file is the *.dll file or what I should do to get the above *.dll files from the folder?
Good topic.
I can run this app, but after Garmin logo all breaks...
http://www.multiupload.com/1KBEECCRT4
Cool We almost have it… please don’t give up
AWESOME!
Yeah!, wow man, this would be an amazing thing if you get this going, hell, I will shoot over 20 bucks to yer paypal if you get this thing up. I purchased Garmin Mobile XT over 3 years ago now, I still have the origional bluetooth dongle, would be so nice to breath some fresh life into it!
-Kili
Oh mannn, I really need the new version of garmin for my HD2..
Good day,
I was wondering if anyone could offer advice on which ROM would be best for my XP now it is no longer needed as a phone. I would like to use it as my car GPS.
I am going to use Sygic as my Navigation app (unless someone has a better suggestion), so the maps are stored and available offline. I will need the SIM to be active for traffic updates. That is about it.. I won't use if for anything else, so something as fast and responsive as possible...
Thanks in advance,
Steve