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My last WinMo phone was the XPERIA X1. With the stock ROM, it was an absolute train wreck. I loved to browse XDA and flash custom ROMs for the interesting hybrid SE Panels / TouchFlo3D ROMs. They were so fast, too, compared to the original SE 6.1. The original was just slow and laggy and frequently buggy as hell.
That was just a year ago.
With the HD2 I find myself not nearly as compelled to flash the ROM. I purchased my HD2 T9193 used (got it in mint condition for a screaming good deal) and the past owner had a custom ROM on there. I actually flashed to an official ROM -- the 1.66 WWE. I also flashed the radio, and I was damn impressed after applying g.lewarne's brilliant registry tricks. The device was snappy, fast, lag-free, and just plain ultra-responsive. I actually liked everything about it, from HTC Messaging and the HTC keyboard to the stock Opera browser to the stock task manager and whatnot. I just felt really at home, and I was really pleased with Sense both visually and in respect to its performance.
Then I see people deriding the stock ROMs thread after thread, blaming it for people's random problems with the HD2. They claim that custom ROMs can fix the problems, but I'm running a stock ROM pretty much trouble-free. The problems I read about that are frequently attributed to stock ROMs are problems I myself am far-removed from, including but not limited to crashing, lag, bugs, and general unsatisfactory performance.
So is it really the stock ROMs that cause so many problems? I'm fairly convinced they represent an excellent way to get a known experience that you can customize fairly easily to exactly the configuration that works for you. I'm very happy with my HD2 and once I get the bloody data connection issue fixed for good I can't imagine the stock ROM will ever give me a misstep. It's just stable and fast as hell for me.
Does the stock ROM just "work" for anyone else?
(I apologize if this is considered a ROM discussion thread [not my intention, but I understand if it is considered so or devolves into one])
I'd prefer a cooked stock-like ROM than any heavily-themed one...if that's what you mean.
I have a stock T-mo Rom, and it's work well for me...Coupla of reg tweaks, and apps. Still has some bugs though..
I too went from the X1 to the Leo (as I affectionally call it over the HD2). I am using the stock 1.72 WWE/HK ROM and am quite happy with it. The thing is there are several things about cooked ROMs that you simply cannot get from a stock ROM (not even by adding .cabs), but the cooked ROMs are always heavily themed.
If I remember correctly, there was only like a handful of X1-based cooked ROMs that matched the look of the stock but had the usability of a cooked ROM, that was my preferred choice.
As for the Leo, there isn't that option just yet.. and regardless, some people (like me) usually stay on the stock ROM to let the cooked ROMs mature, then maybe I'll test one or two out..
p.s. Anyone feel sometimes some cooks go insane (in a humorous way) with heavily skinning the interface? Just makes me go oh my god! (completely personal opinion with NO mentioning of names ).
btyeh said:
As for the Leo, there isn't that option just yet.. and regardless, some people (like me) usually stay on the stock ROM to let the cooked ROMs mature, then maybe I'll test one or two out..
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Isn't an option yet? Have you look at the ChuckyROM kitchen? Not all Cooked ROMs are skinned to death (though I agree, some people do have bad taste in themes ) and some are done exactly like stock. If that's not enough, you can always cook your own stock ROM with the added stability and performance tweaks.
I am actually quite happy with the stock T-Mo US ROM. I have not done much tweaking of any kind really. Someday I am sure I will but for now I am quite happy with the phone as it is.
I love stock as well. Tried a couple of coocked (artemis and another one I can't remember) but I am not happy with them at all.
Stock is good. 1.66WWE.
I understand the benefits of cooked ROMs with regard to features and incremental bug fixes, but I don't understand why these benefits come at the expense of the stock ROM's reputation -- that is what I am getting at. I find nothing egregiously wrong with the stock ROM for me now that I've tweaked it sufficiently.
The BEST part about the HD2 is that I always have the option. And the options are all attractive.. I guess there's just too many of them for me to pick just one.
i like my stock ROM don't see any point yet to go for a custom one.i updated to the official one from htc website and hot nolag or problems
There's no stock ROM with WM6.5.x available, so using a stock ROM is not an option.
I use stock 1.66 ... no problems for me! (well no major ones anyway... got a minor issue with text size when writing an sms but i think every rom has this)
I have the stock 1.72 and I have to say im very happy with it. I would consider a cooked Rom but it will be for curiosity not because of any probs with the stock one.
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It depends on people's taste
I love cook roms because I like 6.5.x finger-friendly style, and in cook rom I dont have to install some apps 1-by-1, and dont have to apply tweaks 1-by-1. Another good things is cook rom decorate the start menu quite well.
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I also flashed the radio, and I was damn impressed after applying g.lewarne's brilliant registry tricks.
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I'm still using the stock rom, but of course I've applied CoOkie's Home Tab mod, which should be stock imho.
Can you provide a link to g.lewarne's registry mods? I'm using BsB Tweaks which is pretty good but I'm always looking for more info...
thanks.
dipaolnv said:
I'm still using the stock rom, but of course I've applied CoOkie's Home Tab mod, which should be stock imho.
Can you provide a link to g.lewarne's registry mods? I'm using BsB Tweaks which is pretty good but I'm always looking for more info...
thanks.
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They're pinned in this forum.
I use the 448MB-compatible tweaks from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=629388
And the Opera and Cache tweaks from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
All I need are battery-related registry tweaks for improved battery handling (right now I'm on full HSDPA all the time with no 3G handoff = battery drain) and I'll be golden.
friend'scatdied said:
They're pinned in this forum.
I use the 448MB-compatible tweaks from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=629388
And the Opera and Cache tweaks from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
All I need are battery-related registry tweaks for improved battery handling (right now I'm on full HSDPA all the time with no 3G handoff = battery drain) and I'll be golden.
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I stayed on the stock ROM for a day. TBH, I bought the HD2 knowing I was going to flash to a Cooked ROM, which I did as soon as I could.
btw, when you're ready for a cooked ROM, you should consider g.lewarne's Series of ROM's which include even more of these tweaks (including the ones for battery life)
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There's no stock ROM with WM6.5.x available, so using a stock ROM is not an option.
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I like this statement. Very true.
I use a custom ROM because the OS has a footprint of under 50Mb with a few tweaks, it's fast, and good looking. WM 6.5 stock ROMs are ugly, and I am spoilt with the finger friendliness of 6.5.x.
pongster said:
I stayed on the stock ROM for a day. TBH, I bought the HD2 knowing I was going to flash to a Cooked ROM, which I did as soon as I could.
btw, when you're ready for a cooked ROM, you should consider g.lewarne's Series of ROM's which include even more of these tweaks (including the ones for battery life)
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Now that I've got my data connection issue resolved I'm not sure I'll ever want to reflash to anything. Seriously, every time I hard reset the data connection has issues staying alive for more than 5 minutes. It just perishes dramatically and doesn't return unless I soft reset the device (even the CommMgr wouldn't do it).
I'll figure out the battery tweaks on my own; shouldn't be too hard with an unlocked registry. When I'm ready to flash to a cooked ROM it'll likely be an ultra-lite ROM that's almost totally naked (little to no cooked-in apps, perhaps even Sense natively absent) so I could get it to exactly the way I want from there.
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Now that I've got my data connection issue resolved I'm not sure I'll ever want to reflash to anything. Seriously, every time I hard reset the data connection has issues staying alive for more than 5 minutes. It just perishes dramatically and doesn't return unless I soft reset the device (even the CommMgr wouldn't do it).
I'll figure out the battery tweaks on my own; shouldn't be too hard with an unlocked registry. When I'm ready to flash to a cooked ROM it'll likely be an ultra-lite ROM that's almost totally naked (little to no cooked-in apps, perhaps even Sense natively absent) so I could get it to exactly the way I want from there.
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"an ultra-lite ROM that's almost totally naked (little to no cooked-in apps, perhaps even Sense natively absent) so I could get it to exactly the way I want from there."
You just described g.lewarne's ROM Series mate
I've flased the O2 1.72 stock rom and I have no problems to report. It even solved the SMS lag. Along with Cookie, BSB, HD2 Tweak and all the fab clocks from everybody, the stock rom suits me fine.
Hello fellow flashers,
What a journey it has been.......
About 1,5 years ago I started flashing cooked roms. Miri and Dutty produced some great roms which showed what our precious Blackstone can do. Those and other roms had lots of bugs, but it was fun to play around with them.
Lately, the most popular roms have been developed into great pieces of work and major bugs are in the past. It's mostly minor stuff that's hardly annoying.
I flashed almost all available roms on this forum from chef's such as Energy, Xannytech, Grzegorz, Cloudy, Miniteror's, Mikenifficent, BlackSTONEhenge, Kenia's Blacknew, Millski, Maryone, PhamQuang and Lotus, but I always went back to one of the KWBR's Topix roms. Especially the WM6.1 sense 2.1 rom, which was my longtime favorite.
So why back 2 basics?
I flashed back to the "latest" Dutch stock rom and almost fully tweaked it to optimal settings using HD-tweak, HD settings, SKtools and driverpack signed 2010. The rom is flying like a maniac and I can't believe how fast my blackstone is (even compared with the fastest coocked roms floating around). I also made some cosmetic colour changes to the slider and taskbar (see avatar) and it still uses only 33% of memory....amazing!
The only downfall in my opinion is the WM6.1 part. Some programs can't be instaled through marketplace, but I can live with that. Also because of the age of the roms a lot of programs are old, but everything works like a charm. Also, TomTom and Google maps work extremely fast and the responsiveness and quickness of the rom is extremely good.
By using all the latest roms the last couple of months (which usually use between 45-55% of memory and even more after applying tweaks) I forgot how fast this device can be.
I think i'll stick with this rom-version 4 a while and see how the development on this forum goes. On the other hand, I might flash tomorrow again as one of these great chef's comes up with with Dutty called: "the holy grail". We'll see....
Fact is: it's addicting as hell to play around with our device, but you all know what i am talking about, right?
Tnx 2 all you chef's 4 the great roms and keep up the good work!
Had an iphone for 2 years. Got my HD quite recently, came with some win6.5 manilla2.5 rom. Tried a lot of roms, and all the time had the feeling of lagginess and slowness.
Then i tried kwbr topaz and rhodium roms and the stock rom. Well this device is meant to be fast afterall. I don't really get why you people use those i_wanna_look_like_leo roms =)
And i don't really see any sense in upgrading windows as well, unless you don't like your manilla, coz titanium is quite ok for a daily use.
So now there's only three roms that i really enjoy: the stock rom (it's meant to be like that), the rhodium/topaz rom (fit just like the stock one, but with some added features)(thank's a lot kwbr), and a clean 6.5 - 6.5.3 rom (haven't really found the perfect one)
i can speak for italian stock rom but every topix beats the sh33t out of the stock rom. cfc compression of tf3d/sense and all the tweaks cant be beaten by the stock rom
My question is can someone direct me to the LINK from where i can Download the Latest WWE Stock ROM, i need only the nbh File because i will use the Stock one with diferent Radio version
I saw alot of Official ROM in the Wiki but they are Uploaded in few Pars and they are on Rapidshare so i will need to download one ROM few days because when i download 1 or 2 times from Rapidshare i cannot download more for today. Also im not sure do this post is Up to Date for this reason im asking you here...
I need a WWE ROM its good enought if its WWE Europe.
I already have on my Desktop PC ROM: RUU_BlackStone_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.1_Radio_52.62.25.34_1.13.25.24_Ship
But i don`t know do this is the Latest Avalible? also is writen that is 1.56 so this mean someday in the future when i need to get back to the Stock one and im not with 1.56 Olinex i don`t need to be back to 1.14 Olinex right? because this ROM is 1.56
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Hello fellow flashers,
What a journey it has been.......
About 1,5 years ago I started flashing cooked roms. Miri and Dutty produced some great roms which showed what our precious Blackstone can do. Those and other roms had lots of bugs, but it was fun to play around with them.
Lately, the most popular roms have been developed into great pieces of work and major bugs are in the past. It's mostly minor stuff that's hardly annoying.
I flashed almost all available roms on this forum from chef's such as Energy, Xannytech, Grzegorz, Cloudy, Miniteror's, Mikenifficent, BlackSTONEhenge, Kenia's Blacknew, Millski, Maryone, PhamQuang and Lotus, but I always went back to one of the KWBR's Topix roms. Especially the WM6.1 sense 2.1 rom, which was my longtime favorite.
So why back 2 basics?
I flashed back to the "latest" Dutch stock rom and almost fully tweaked it to optimal settings using HD-tweak, HD settings, SKtools and driverpack signed 2010. The rom is flying like a maniac and I can't believe how fast my blackstone is (even compared with the fastest coocked roms floating around). I also made some cosmetic colour changes to the slider and taskbar (see avatar) and it still uses only 33% of memory....amazing!
The only downfall in my opinion is the WM6.1 part. Some programs can't be instaled through marketplace, but I can live with that. Also because of the age of teh roms a lot of programs are old, but everything works like a charm. Also, TomTom and Google maps work extremely fast and the responsiveness and quickness of the rom is extremely good.
By using all the latest roms teh last couple of months (which usually use between 45-55% of memory and even more after applying tweaks) I forgot how fast this device can be.
I think i'll stick with this rom-version 4 a while and see how the development on this forum goes. On the other hand, I might flash tomorrow again as one of these great chef's comes up with with Dutty called: "the holy grail". We'll see....
Fact is: it's addicting as hell to play around with our device, but you all know what i am talking about, right?
Tnx 2 all you chef's 4 the great roms and keep up the good work!
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Same issue here! Been trying almost every ROM you mentioned, and I planned to go back to the Dutch Stock tomorrow. Just out of curiosity, what tweaks did you do? Do you have the tools you installed available as an installer or something. Please let know.
SJackal said:
Same issue here! Been trying almost every ROM you mentioned, and I planned to go back to the Dutch Stock tomorrow. Just out of curiosity, what tweaks did you do? Do you have the tools you installed available as an installer or something. Please let know.
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Hi there,
Almost all the speed improvement tweaks while using HD-tweak, HD settings, SKtools and I installed SD-tuneup, Colored slider + taskbar, Wifisharing and driverpack signed 2010. That's about it.
You can find all those programs as cabs on this forum.
Good luck!
_7_ said:
Hi there,
Almost all the speed improvement tweaks while using HD-tweak, HD settings, SKtools and I installed SD-tuneup, Colored slider + taskbar, Wifisharing and driverpack signed 2010. That's about it.
You can find all those programs as cabs on this forum.
Good luck!
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Hi _7_
I returned today to the Oficial Portuguese ROM too.
Can you tell me where can I find the Colored slider+taskbar that you use, or the name?
Thanks
_7_ said:
Hi there,
Almost all the speed improvement tweaks while using HD-tweak, HD settings, SKtools and I installed SD-tuneup, Colored slider + taskbar, Wifisharing and driverpack signed 2010. That's about it.
You can find all those programs as cabs on this forum.
Good luck!
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I flashed back to the original Dutch stock, did the tweaks you mentioned, added a nice theme+taskbar and installed Facebook, Marketplace, G-Alarm, TomTom and Opera 10. The ROM flies, has every tool a use and just uses 33% at startup. Never went over 48% till now!
Thanks for your tip!
As much as I appreciate this thread, it hasn't got anything to do with development so I am moving it to the general forum
what eyecandy/tools are you using to make an old stock rom look good?
the main reason to move from stock 6.1 to wm6.5 and sense2.5 is the look, isn't it? I like on home tab the weather animation, links to programs (CHT), the funktionally people and the email tab ...
so my question is:
what eyecandy/tools are you using to make an old stock rom look good?
any pics & links, please.
A while back, I flashed back to the latest WWE stock ROM and thought I'd stick it out for a bit, but the lack of kinetic scrolling really caught me out to the point I could hardly use the phone (I never realised I'd gotten so used to WM6.5!)
Then I tried kwbr's WM6.5 and Manila 2.1 (no sense) and found that while it does use more memory than a WM6.1 ROM does (37% after a softboot), I've not seen it over 50% unless I've a few apps running at the same time. And I've got my kinetic scrolling back
Out of curiosity, how much difference does Neo's driverpack actually make to the stock ROM as I was led to believe it only made a noticeable difference to those using Sense 2.5 which used the graphics-side a lot more?
Well.......after using the modified stock rom for a couple of weeks I could not resist trying some newly coocked roms.
I found a rom that really meets my expectations and needs:
[ROM][WWE][10-Jul-10] Cloudy 0.4 (WM6.1)
Try and see 4 yourself!
Greetz!
Barebone
Have you tried [ROM][WWE][WM 6.1][Jun 24]Barebone 2.6 ?
Very fast ROM with all the useless stuff removed. Much faster than stock ROM in my experience.
i just wanted to know the most faved roms out there give me sort of an idea for which one for me to choose
Jay321 said:
i just wanted to know the most faved roms out there give me sort of an idea for which one for me to choose
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Mine is MaxSense Energy. Quickest ROM I've used, most frequently updated, I haven't had to soft reset my device because of it once. Very reliable, imo
My personal favorite is the "Energy" rom... Same reasons stated above... Updated every few days it seems, very fast, stable, and looks "pretty"... Plus I get a great battery life...
Forget the ROM upgrading madness.
Check my sig.
Mine so far is Deepshining's Roms. They run smooth and battery is good. I changed to Energy cht (Dinik) rom for a few weeks loved some of the apps cooked in and really cool looking but i had to soft reset more than normal and my battery life did not last as long as i would like. i never got sod's but the reseting was killing me so i went back to Deepshining a few days ago and back to happiness!! Im not knocking energy roms but it just didnt work for me.
So i would say Deepshining is my fav at the moment, i have been looking at seeM_ZA rom, simplicity. Cause i want something with the basics and cht cooked in but that rom has no Facebook so im just a lurker for now.
hello everybody the best rom is energy rom is excelent the best
moSess said:
Forget the ROM upgrading madness.
Check my sig.
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i agree but no GPS inside and i miss 6.1 start menu that isn't here as i was thinking it would be
so more battery cause of lack of features!!
trying to find substitution for it....
Illuminati Series:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=718561
Jukica said:
i agree but no GPS inside and i miss 6.1 start menu that isn't here as i was thinking it would be
so more battery cause of lack of features!!
trying to find substitution for it....
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With 1.3a, GPS works like charm. And with little bit of registry editing you get your 6.1 start menu with manila programs tab enabled. I just love the rom. Allthough Jackos has build it for maximum ram efficiency, the rom is the fastest i've used. I suggest you to try it. It sets the bar high for other roms.
Big thanks to the developer!
Deepshining for me. Its the first rom I tried and I havent tried another. Battery life is good, its stable and its updated in good time. No soft resetting issues or sods
I've tested all tp2 roms and have to say that Jackos showLITE is the best...
E N E R G Y R O M is the BEST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stock WM 6.5
I am very,very satisfied with original,stock WM 6.5 ROM.
It runs flawlessly. No objections.
NRGZ28's most recent Cookie Energy ROM
ive been using the JackFull v1.4 rom since release Aug. 01, 2010. absolutly no major issues you find in the other mainstream roms. (sod's, memory leaks, power drainage) the rom is very smooth. the chef, jackos, is dedicated to his thread and helps resolve any issues promptly. on a fresh install, i get 310mb of storage and 95-100mb of ram. its a great "lite" rom for you to build on. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=632617
Mine is the simplicity ROM. Its been the fastest for me and has been updated during the time I've had it.
Hi!
Just a quick question please. I've got a Nexus one on CM6 and all happy with it. My mate's got a Legend though and has got loads of niggly problems and issues with it and wants me to root it, wipe it, and put a new rom on in for him to give him a fresh start.
So obviously not being so familiar with all the rom options on the legend, could anyone advise which rom is the best and most stable to flash? From looking around it seems the indigo bean rom looks like the best all rounder. what about the cyanogen one though?
Thanks a lot!
I'm using azure (0.5 version, don't wont to update just yet) (Froyo, Cynogenmod6.0)
Well, I really love HTC sense, just for most of the apps (mail, keyboard, browser), but now I'm on this CM6.0 mod for quite a while and I am starting to like it.
It's a bit faster (noticeable) and its quite stable, haven't noticed many issues.
I would definitely recommend this ROM.
(I've got the jonas htc 1.5 keyboard installed, just can't live without this one)
If you stick to sense, just make sure he gets the latest radio and version 2.... versions before 2. where noticeable SLOWER ...
Well there is no best in anything actually. Depends on what he's looking for in a rom. If its for speed go for Kyosa's CM, its the fastest rom so far on the Legend. Have some issues on it though, so not really practical for everyday use. Azure's CM on the other hand it stable, but a bit slower. I personally use the Azure's rom from ali ba, so I would recommend that one.
I am using the Elegancia rom with 2.12 radio with very little additional customization and I'm very disappointed that the Hyper Droid rom is actually faster than my windows mobile os. I do like windows mobile as I dont think android on the hd2 is ready yet.Is there really any definitely solid WM rom out there that you guys can recommend.
I am very comfortable with customizing the phone and so on but I am a very busy person and don't have the time to tinker around.I need something which works outside the box with minimal thinking, and don't ask me to get an iphone
what exactly is faster?
try the energy rom
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try the energy rom
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Is the correct answer.
Gtx cht works well.
Since recommendation is 2 out of 2, I will consider
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
make that 3......
VBN has been the quickest ROM for me by far
Yeah I have been an Energyrom user since the TP2 and it has always been one of the fast and astheatically pleasing, they are popular for a reason. And please don't take this as a diss to all the great chefs here, this is just my opinion with experience from two different phones.
Dutty
chrisrj28 said:
Yeah I have been an Energyrom user since the TP2 and it has always been one of the fast and astheatically pleasing, they are popular for a reason. And please don't take this as a diss to all the great chefs here, this is just my opinion with experience from two different phones.
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I would most definitely recommend any one of Dutty's Roms. Stability and speed being the key words.
Best ROM I have used for HD2 has been the one by indie. Super fast, stable and with no battery drain. I havent'd had good luck with energy roms starting with the older touch HD, and they used to eat up the battery very fast. Try out indie's, I am sure you'll like it. Dutty's is good as well.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=692763 I am using the one with Cookie's home tabs. One with Dinik's customizations is great too.
I tried a lot of different custom roms, but the Miri - DINIK rom works for me the best. It's so bloody fast and stable. Not one single freeze (even after a long period of standby) and excellent battery performance (2.12 + 2.14).
Energy ROMs do not work for me, the battery is dead within one working day and I don't find it stable. Too much tweaktools which cause slowdown. I really appreciate their support, but it seems that the Rom is not specifically made for the HD2.
well the elegancia rom uses miri's rom as the base as well. It is significantly faster than stock rom and I'm really impress with it. But the android builds just blast through anything than windows mobile can offer