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Downgrading T-Mobile Radio 6.24.01 TO 6.18 (Original)

Hi,
For warranty issues i have to send the pocket pc phone in for a replacement, but i have upgraded to T-Mobile 4.01 with the new radio Stack.
I can downgrade the OS to original 3.18 but the radio is not downgrading - can anyone please help and post instructions on downgrading to the original Radio...would greatly appreciate.
thanx

As far as i have read (and I've read several posts) there is no way to go back to a previous RS version.

If it is a hardware fault on the phone and is under warranty and not due to misuse like dropping it or breaking screen etc, I cant see that they would bother checking the radio version, probably just chuck in a box with a bunch of others.

Yeah... I've had to return a couple of them. I've always flashed them back to the old rom, but not the radio stack. I've never had any comments on it from TMObile.

I may have been wrong, I have heard that its possible to downgrade the same way you upgrade. Copy the original RUU files into the windows dir and run them. I hear that this might bring it back to it's original radio.
If you try and it works let us know, this is something that is discussed often but never really answered.

I returned a phone cause i dropped it and cracked the screen. I put the original rom back, but left the radio stack. they never mentioned anything.
But, my current problem could be due to the radio stack, cause the new phone i got often times turns off (soft reset). I don't want to call in a warranty issue until i can either put back the old RS or until t-mo officially releases the new one. So... if you find a way to do it, please, please let us know.
I tried the method ntwebguy mentioned, but with no luck, but i don't remember exactly how it failed... I think it just said a newer version already existed on the phone.
I assume there must be a way to do it for the sake of testing if nothing else, but I have not seen anyone that was able to.
John

john - it's most likely hardware, i've had 4 different XDA's from Tmobile and they all did the same thing. i'm in the same boat as you with 4.01 and 6.24 installed waiting for the official release to send this one back in.
that being said, i have an idea - too risky for me though
what if you "upgraded" to ATT or O2's radio stack and then "upgraded" back to Tmobile 6.18?

WM2003

I was looking at the website for "Traffic-I". This is a subscription system for traffic info (and a sort of GPS ?)
The free trial refers to XDA2 not XDA1. I assume that is because the XDA2 has W2003 0n as standard?
Is it possible to upgrade my O/S to 2003. I'm not sure what version i have as i bought mine used.
Thanks

icelolly said:
I was looking at the website for "Traffic-I". This is a subscription system for traffic info (and a sort of GPS ?)
The free trial refers to XDA2 not XDA1. I assume that is because the XDA2 has W2003 0n as standard?
Is it possible to upgrade my O/S to 2003. I'm not sure what version i have as i bought mine used.
Thanks
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Yes you can do it my recommendation persists just on upgrading the RUU not the RSU, there's a lots of threads posting how to upgrade to WM2003, search, read more and learn

Thanks for the tips. I assume then that upgrading the RUU only, will allow all Wm2003 programs to work on my device. This upgrade is reversible if the threads regarding original back ups are followed?

icelolly said:
Thanks for the tips. I assume then that upgrading the RUU only, will allow all Wm2003 programs to work on my device. This upgrade is reversible if the threads regarding original back ups are followed?
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Yes what you need is upgrading the RUU. It will allow all wm2003 to work on ur unit, thus you could back up as well your original default rom before installing the one that you'll cook

Ok thanks for that. I'l llook up how to back up old ROM first then get my oven gloves on and start cooking

Where Can I Download ROM WM2003
i try up grade to wm2003 T-Mobile 4.00.21 but i cant do cause i have Error message my machine use PW10A1, that version just for PW10B1..
So how can i get version for my machine??
Now i use :
ROM. 3.20.06
RS 4.01.

4.00.21 is very outdated ... try 4.01.16 and don't worry about the version as long as you do NOT touch the RSU part

Where ??
Where i can download ROM 4.01.16 have u or give me link

http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/

I've had to stop using my XDA for the moment. It's a great piece of kit but the incoming signal quality is quite poor (Compared to a normal mobile) I've missed several calls that have gone straight to my answerphone when i normally never miss any. There are some threads about signal quality but shouldnt this be built in from new as being totaly reliable. Any comments appreciated.

RSU flashing might help ... but it's VERY risky

Biso007 said:
RSU flashing might help ... but it's VERY risky
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Yes point taken on that!. To be quite honest the RUU part of the XDA (The programs etc) work really well and i'm not too bothered about any mods there. I'ts just that i use it for work and i can't really afford to miss calls and not being an expert in these things i find it hard to accept that the incoming signal quality is dependant on what sort of RUU software you have. :roll:
I suppose that as i'm not using it at all, and upgrading is risky but recoverable? and if it was out of action temporarily whilst a software failure was being put right then this would not be a problem for me. What i would worry about is if it all went belly up would i be able to get help on restoring it back to it's former glory?
Doug

recovering failed RSU flashing is a very tough process, and might not work as well ... you have to be very careful.
As a matter of fact, I 've done many RSU flashing before and all went OK ... but I know about many horrible stories about dead devices that can't be repaired except by h/w replacement.
If you can't really use it, it's ok to go for RSU flashing but pick the right RSU upgrade ... and stay away from O2 RSU 4.21

OK Biso007 i think you have convinced me. I think i will reluctantly sell the XDA (Someone will get a bargain as it has TT3 and maps on it) and wait a little while and see what else comes up.
Cheers
Doug

need help htc 8125

hi i was trying to flash my friends htc 8125 with the tutorial on this web and now i just have 3 color display or boot mode i think. im new this was my first time i flashet first with buton ... flash but not work error 302 but after i flash with alternative flash was in the tutorial and i get an error to so i dont know what to do how to repair
HTC CINGULAR 8125
IPL 1.05
SPL 1.05

I'm kinda of new too, but I believe you just have to pick the rom u want to flash up to. U r at the ideal ipl & spl. I just did that to mine about a week ago and then flashed it EXACTLY like forum said and then just update to 3.XXIPL & 3.XXSPl. After which I picked 1 of the TNT rOMs and wella! try to flash it up now

i dont know wheres to find the roms do you have a link or something

Have you CID unlocked yet?

Obviously not unlocked yet!
Cause he stucks on step 1 !
hahahaha upgrade an original rom... try the 2.26 tmobile not 3.08 please...

Hey Que
I will be getting T-Mobile any hour today...
I will be following all the instructions and try to use a Cingular card on it.

I'm trying to decide what to use for updating the rom on this 8125 the ipl reads 2.25 the spl reads 2.25. in the tutorial there isnt any mention of these that I can ascertain. the other numbers are os 2.25.11.1 gsm 02.25.11
Is this even a necessity. The unit shuts down and is very difficult to get restarted, seems to be a good unit, just looking to make it more reliable. Thanks in advance for the help.

hydafl said:
I'm trying to decide what to use for updating the rom on this 8125 the ipl reads 2.25 the spl reads 2.25. in the tutorial there isnt any mention of these that I can ascertain. the other numbers are os 2.25.11.1 gsm 02.25.11
Is this even a necessity. The unit shuts down and is very difficult to get restarted, seems to be a good unit, just looking to make it more reliable. Thanks in advance for the help.
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Your phone is running the official cingular stock rom and has official IPL/SPL 2.25 (Bootloaders),its nothing to be worried about,now it depends if you prefer to reflash the official wm5 rom or wud like to upgrade to latest wm6.1 custom build roms.
If you want to keep official then download the official wm5 stock rom and simply flash it,but if you desire to upgrade to latest wm6.1 rom,as no official wm6 roms are provided,therefore,you'll have to flash a custom build wm6.1 rom,and for that you'll have to get your phone CID unlocked.

my phone is in boot mode i dont have the roms im new wheres can i find the rom that you say the tmobile my phone was with the original cingular rom or where can i find the original one

mmmmm ok!
I dont have the link but you an enter in wiki section for wizard... is a thread that said wizard goes wiki click there and then it tooks you to the wiki pages! there... you can found a link that takes you to the original roms... choose the one you see for cingular..... some links are broken so dont desperate maybe we can found other one... if you dont get it there you can choose the search tool just follow my steps on my signature says The XDA search culture...
Dont be afraid men you only need to use some more things to start unbricking your phone... (I hope so) many things tooks time cause we dont read enough now lets work men!!!
Well avoiding duplicatted posts this is gonna change many times
Here is my RUU without ID http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429327&page=9
I didnt found the cingular but try to unzip the exe file with winrar... the nk.nbf can be cutted and pasted in the RUU folder to upgrade it without ID vendor permissions... we will on touch men!

Xplain more
Xplain more of your problem remember that unlock upgrade flashing dids most be done on XP and without SIM and MiniSD pluged... be sure your batt is full charged and your USB cable dont have troubles.
Can you privide more info abour exactly what you have done... please men we need all you got
OH remember not to use so much your phone on Bootloader screen cause we need the batt almost 70% to downgrade unlock and upgrade again it dont charge in RGB screen.

About getting official Wizard Cingular ROMs.
I called HTC and Cingular they say that HTC is not licensing the Wizard WM6 from Microsoft anymore, so they are not supplying the ROMs for the public.
No official support from Cingular/HTC on Wizard for WM6 or 5 for that matter.

I'm new to pdas I've only ever had cell phones so with that in mind its confusing as to where to start. I'm electronic savvy when it comes to car repair, however some of this is daunting at best. I'd like to take this semi-bricked wizard to the next level.
Everytime I find what I'm looking for the webpage is obsolete, what to do?

hydafl said:
I'm new to pdas I've only ever had cell phones so with that in mind its confusing as to where to start. I'm electronic savvy when it comes to car repair, however some of this is daunting at best. I'd like to take this semi-bricked wizard to the next level.
Everytime I find what I'm looking for the webpage is obsolete, what to do?
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First,always post the DOC Chip version of the phone,what is the IPL/SPL of the phone.
Secondly,what exactly is the problem and what you want to do ?

the ipl/spl are at 2.25 and the specific problem is that wen in hibernate mode the only way to work with it is to remove the battery to restore functionality, then that resets the factory settings of time and date and also drops calls etc.

hydafl said:
the ipl/spl are at 2.25 and the specific problem is that wen in hibernate mode the only way to work with it is to remove the battery to restore functionality, then that resets the factory settings of time and date and also drops calls etc.
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Its a G3 version,download the official stock wm5 rom from here and flash it:-
http://download.america.htc.com/RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship_1.exe
But,if you want to upgrade to latest wm6 then follow this link and do it correctly as the guide reads :-
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies
Good luck

Well I think its bricked no screen and no charge light, should I buy a new battery or just sell it for parts? I really tried to find the correct place to update and I goofed what can I say its my responsibility, is thereanymore I can do from this point?

hydafl said:
Well I think its bricked no screen and no charge light, should I buy a new battery or just sell it for parts? I really tried to find the correct place to update and I goofed what can I say its my responsibility, is thereanymore I can do from this point?
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G3 devices don't get Bricked like this,by just flashing a rom,untill and unless you have flashed any G4 IPL/SPL on it,otherwise,G3 phones never get Bricked.So most probably its the battery,try to get the battery charged or get another battery from a friend and confirm it.

As an update and thank you very much. I purchased a new battery and the the store was good enough to pre charge it. We installed the above official wm5 file and its currently going throuh re updating itself. I did happen to notice that it now has an AKU2 file. Is this an update over and above what I had originally?
Once again thanks....
Are there any problems with 3G sim cards because when I installed the card the phone reacts as if there is no battery. No charge indicator or any activity.
Problem solved, it helps to have the sim card properly seated.......

Thanz!
You are most welcome,glade its working.
Yes,the above rom is AKU 2,its an upgrade to your previous official Rom,always try to keep the battery fully charged,as it creates many problems if it gets below the required retention charge of 30%.
Try out the Guide I posted above and see if you can get it CID unlocked and upgraded to latest wm6.1 rom,thats where the fun begins....!

Phone Function Issue

Hello
I noticed a very annoying bug at my phone: sometimes when I end a call the phone function stalls (the icon on the upper bar shows conversation in progress)
The only way to use the phone function again is to soft reset it. Lately I get the same problem but without the icon that shows conversation in progress. During this time all the incoming calls are not prompted. Basically on the caller side my phone "rings" but my phone doesn't even notice the incoming call. This prevents me from receiving very important calls that affect my business.
I cannot upgrade my ROM (1.14.479.3 ) since there is no official version for my region.
Any of you have this problem ? Shall I bring it to service ?
Please tell me your thoughts
SR

seems like a software issue, which region is your phone in? have you tried updating your software through HTC website?

For Romania there is no official version released. I cant upgrade ROM/Radio without losing my warranty.

i had the same problem after installed a hot fix from HTC, even hard reset and reinstall the ICR program the phone just lockup when I made a call. I can talk in that call but the whole phone just won't response to any keys or touch screen. After 2 days playing around with countless hard reset I decided to flash the same ROM from computer and the problem seems gone now.

SneakyR said:
For Romania there is no official version released. I cant upgrade ROM/Radio without losing my warranty.
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Sure you can You are currently using a WWE ROM right? You can use USPL or HSPL to flash a newer official WWE ROM. In the event you need to return the phone just flash the original ROM (and SPL) back to your phone and they will never know. The original ROM you are running now is available on the Wiki, and here is a direct link. If you need help flashing ROM's you can read the guide in my signature and post questions in that thread
On a side note- I have had that issue before as well. It does seem like a bug in some software on the ROM as flashing different ROM's seems to make it go away (or reappear )

My phone's screen stopped responding few weeks ago and I brought it to service. They changed its front side with a brand new one (I am not sure if the screen only because I even get better audio quality during calls). I am telling you this just to underline that when I took it back from service the ROM was flashed again (same version though) because the menus used to be in English and now they are in Romanian. So if I am not mistaking my hard resets + services ROM flashing (into the same version though ) didn't fix this issue.
@Digital Outcast:
I am aware that I am able to use a newer ROM. I read the wiki and I know how to do it but if for some reason what I mentioned above (screen completely stopped responding and it was changed) happens while the new ROM is on the phone I will lose my warranty.
Since I opened this issue I changed the sim with a newer one. The old one was 7 years old...
Thank you for your feedback and for letting me know I am not the only phone owner having this annoying bug.

As stated by Tnyynt on another thread
Official updates go by as original ROM, they install without HardSPL if there is an update for your version of the device, so if you have an Official ROM which you have flashed, there's no need to worry for warranty.
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Basically, any of the official rom updates for your device available on HTC or wiki can be flashed to your phone without HSPL or USPL and will not void warranty.

I tried with this one but when I insert my serial it says its not available for my region.
http://www.htc.com/www/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=179&act=sd&cat=2
Still I managed to download it using some serial I found on the web. But when I started the flashing process it says its not meant for my phone and aborted

Is your phone branded? Did you get it new? I ask because it doesn't look like it was a WWE device...

I bought it brand new from an online store. I didn't buy it from a provider like Vodafone or Orange.
One of my colleagues bought it from Vodafone few days ago and he has exactly the same ROM version as I have. None of us is able to download the previously mentioned ROM version from HTC website using the imei.

RUU_BlackStone_HTC_WWE_EastEurope_1.14.479.3_Radio _52.49a.25.26_1.09.25.14_Ship is the ROM you currently have on your phone. There are no "official" updates for your particular CID.
Your real only current choice if you want to flash a newer HTC ROM would be to use USPL or HSPL and flash another official WWE ROM. You could always flash back the original if you needed to return the phone for warranty purposes. Sorry bud.

Thanks for summing it up for me.
PS: changing the sim with a newer one did not help, in case somone wants to do this.

Used to use cooked rom, phone function sudden failed.

I used to use cooked rom, tried 6.1, 6.5 and 6.5.x.
Failed to search for phone signal today, confirmed not SIM card problem.
Will cooked rom damage hardware? Thanks!

I don't think so , Hard-reset your phone with your Sim-card inside it and it will work again

If the problem still persist, try to install radio from this link :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=440503
If that does not solve the problem, I think the only way is to install a shipped ROM that suits with your phone's specification (ELF or ELFIN, Model ID and etc).
But don't forget to return your SPL and IPL to origina ones when you will load a shipped ROM. You can find them on XDA Wiki.
Hope your Elf (Elfin?) will be Ok!

How can I know my original IPL? SPL?

if you didn't run the dsixda script before hand that grabs all your information, and have sinced changed your IPL/SPL then I'm not sure.
However, If you know your phone model number (T-MOB0005 etc.) You may be able to guesstimate to what they were based on that - Personally, I think that could be a bit risky, but it was worth the suggestion.
Do you remember if you have changed the IPL and SPL? You could always run the dsixda script now to see what you have. It should be in the ROM section
Sorry I can't be more help, but I can only make a suggestion as to how, as I have always took a note of them before starting anything.
At the same time - I also have an elf that is unable to connect to a network, I have tried radio upgrades etc and custom roms, so if you do fix it, I know that I would appreciate the outcome, as would many others who have posted the same issue - In the mean time I am continuing my hunt for a fix for it
Stu

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if you didn't run the dsixda script before hand that grabs all your information, and have sinced changed your IPL/SPL then I'm not sure.
However, If you know your phone model number (T-MOB0005 etc.) You may be able to guesstimate to what they were based on that - Personally, I think that could be a bit risky, but it was worth the suggestion.
Do you remember if you have changed the IPL and SPL? You could always run the dsixda script now to see what you have. It should be in the ROM section
Sorry I can't be more help, but I can only make a suggestion as to how, as I have always took a note of them before starting anything.
At the same time - I also have an elf that is unable to connect to a network, I have tried radio upgrades etc and custom roms, so if you do fix it, I know that I would appreciate the outcome, as would many others who have posted the same issue - In the mean time I am continuing my hunt for a fix for it
Stu
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Is that means that I can only use cooked rom from now on if I don't know the original SPL IPL?

rexlun said:
Is that means that I can only use cooked rom from now on if I don't know the original SPL IPL?
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If you haven't changed them, then you could well still be able to use your shipped rom.
but if you don't know what they were, and have changed them, then yes, custom roms is the only way for you, from what I understand.

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If you haven't changed them, then you could well still be able to use your shipped rom.
but if you don't know what they were, and have changed them, then yes, custom roms is the only way for you, from what I understand.
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Thank you for your kindly help! Is so nice to be here!
I'll keep trying and report here if I've my 'touch' recover!
Really Thanks!

No probs, it's what this site is for