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Confused. >.< I Have JF 1.43 RC33, Do I upgrade?

Hey I have the Fat32/EXT2 setup on my memory card, so if I wanted to upgrade, will it still work fine and also this new 1.51 I would grab the US version wouldnt I? Then would it be a smooth upgrade or what? I swear I hate when so many different firmwares come out, then cupcake etc. Not even sure if JF has cupcake or what that was all about, cause I thought things still had issues?
Anyways do I just upgrade or is there more I would have to do? And is JF cupcake in anyway?

when you flash the new firmware you will delete the files, so most likely all you'll need to do after you flash is to copy the files back to flash0 and reboot. you may have to reinstall your apk's but they should still be on your sdcard, so just run linda's file manager to access them.

So if I do upgrade, I am going to have to copy what back to flash0? I hate being confused, been sitting here the past hour reading threads and not sure what exactly I am supposed to be doing. >.< Thing about me is I always research before playing with my toys... Never wanna make a mistake. So many mods one can do on a G1 not sure when someone upgrades what has to be done again >.< Got too many apps to reinstall one by one.

goto the thread about appstosd program.

Looking at the comparison chart right now. Seems JF ADP is better now since I guess it has built in apps to sd already? Should I just convert from the Tmobile version to the ADP one? If so would I have to "wipe" to do that?
Edit: Ok I just learned of JF Rom update app on the market, If I use that and update, I take it update radio 1st then the to 1.51? Also after I would do that, to relink my apps, Do I need to use the script or would it auto do that? Which steps am I using here?
Well ok I see if I wanted to change build types I would wanna wipe then start up. So I would assume then If I wanted to change builds, I need to go back and install 1 by one again? Or whats the deal with that? Not sure what nandroid would do for that.

All jf builds now support a2sd, but it does not link for you. After you install them, you'll hav e to manually link say /data/app to the folder in sd. Read the various a2sd posts and you'll know how.
Also, perform a nandroid backup before you upgrade. You could choose not to wipe and see if the phone works. (But you're strongly advised to delete dalvik-cache after loading a new build.) If it doesn't, you can always go back to recovery mode and do a wipe. (Wiping will not clear the system you've just updated.)

Ok update. Here is what I have done, In the past I used Lucids for the app to sd and then the data and cache move. That was for RC33.
Now I used JF Rom Upgrader to download and install the new cupcake radio. I installed that one 1st, installed fine.
I then uploaded the update.zip from Lucids post with 1.51 Tmobile build, USA. The update went through fine.
G1 reboots, Im happily surprised, my apps are still there! And work! (In otherwords my apps were still reading off the SD card and cache too I am assuming)
Now the glitch part. Anything requesting root access is glitching up on me, You know the screen that comes up and says "Grant root access" Well the top part shows "SU Request" but the screen is blank, cant pick anything, I can hit home and go back to the main page. Not sure what that is about, or if thats implying I need to do a wipe and start over or if there is something missing. But so far least things are still working and so. Just the SU glitch, cant use SU in terminal either since that page popping up will be blank. =/ Ideas anyone? Thanks.

Market thinks I still have these apps installed. how to Re DL ?

On Dwangs latest. Darn thing wont ever work with nandroid. Had to wipe my EXT3 to recover an old image. All my apps are gone. I had most backed up via Astro.
BUT
Theres a handful that I didnt have but now the market says "Installed".
Ive tried clearing all caches and data that pertain to market. Reboots... no luck.
Is there a way to fix ?
And for future reference ..best way to backup EXT3 without ADB ?

Try downloading the apps on an online market, then installing them off the SDCard.

this should work.
remove the folder /data/data/com.android.vending
then restart. it should refresh you're market.
if all else fails. re-flash.

if removing the vending folder doesnt work, just uninstall the app, and then try re-installing it? if it says it is installed, this should work.
ALSO, if you're apps2sd wasnt automatic and you had not rebooted since your last install of a few apps, they might still be in your internal phone memory. a wipe of NAND and EXT might help resolve any problems if all else fails

Ssantos6981 said:
this should work.
remove the folder /data/data/com.android.vending
then restart. it should refresh you're market.
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This should work nicely

Thanks for the help guys. Got frustrated just wiped and started from scratch.
Appreciate it.

[Workaround] Froyo- Workarounds for Common Problems- READ HERE FIRST!!

So, as Froyo is slowly becoming the standard around here, I thought I would post a few workarounds for some of the problems that people are having with Froyo and the wide selections of Froyo ROMS to choose from. I put this list together, as these problems I see coming up in many of the Froyo ROM threads.
So, I ll start with a few of the most common ones, and will add to this list later.
Issue -My apps are appearing twice in the ADW apps launcher after moving them to the SD card! (Froyo apps2sd)
Workaround-It seems almost everytime I reboot the phone that Im getting the apps appearing twice. If you uninstall ADW, and then reinstall it, then it stops. So what I ve done for the time being is to install ADW new, get all the widgets and apps you want on the home screen, and then go into the restore and backup settings in ADW launcher. Make a backup of your ADW settings and of your homescreens and save those to your sd card (it does this automatically). Then, the next time you need to reboot your phone and you see double apps coming up, just go into ADW settings and "Restore" your settings for the launcher and homescreens. Then the double apps go away, your settings are retained, and your apps and widgets are back on your homescreen.
If your using the same apps and widgets all the time, its probably a good idea to do a Nandroid after you ve done this, and to save the 2 ADW save files stored on your sd card just in case you ever want to quickly restore your settings again.
Issue- Froyo apps2sd is rubbish! I only have 40mb left on internal storage! I want the old apps2sd back!!
Workaround- First off, I have to admit that at first I didn’t like the new Froyo apps2sd. But actually now, I like it more, due to the fact that you don’t need an EXT or swap (meaning MORE SPEED), AND coupled with the fact theres a very easy way to get FOUR TIMES MORE STORAGE than the 40mb (estimate for 115 apps) that you have left. The solution? Easy..all you have to do is go into your ROMS settings, and “move dalvik to cache”. To put it simply, I have 117 apps installed on my phone. After I moved them all to the sd card, I had 40mb left. I then went into the spare parts on Emonthers ROM, and enabled “dalvik on cache”. I then rebooted, and VOILA…137mb free internal space.
I cant confirm that all ROMS have this option, but if your ROM does have it, it’s the way to go. From what I ve read (please correct me if im wrong), this space is allocated mostly for OTA updates. As most of us here have root, why not use that space to free up some internal memory! After doing this, my phone is running VERY fast and smooth.
Issue- My phone keeps rebooting at the load screen! HELP!!
Workaround -This commonly occurs if you didn’t wipe properly when coming from another ROM. If this is happening to you, you ll need to:
Pull your battery to get the loops to stop
Reboot into recovery
Do a full wipe, then if you have an ext partition wipe that. Also wipe cache and dalvik settings. This is very important. Then flash your ROM. Your Bootloops should then stop. And remember, if your partioning your card, remember to REPAIR EXT PARTITIONS. This is VERY important and will save you lots of grief.
Issue- When I record video my phone reboots! HELP!
Workaround- This means you haven’t installed the Froyo radio. You ll need to be sure you have either flashed the zip version of the Froyo radio or installed the image (Cyan says installing the image is safer. Im sure hes probably right, but I can confirm I have flashed the zip version of the radio and it works fine).
Issue-I don’t know which apps to install to the sd card and which I should leave on the phone! AAARRGGHH!
Workaround- From what I have read, what you ll want to leave on the phone are:
Widgets, apps that have widgets that you use, keyboards, and system apps. I also keep my sms app on the phone, although Im sure it will work fine on the SD card.
Issue- I just flashed a new ROM, and now the app launcher is all slow! Whats up with that??
Workaround- This is most likely because your apps are being automatically redownloaded and installed. This is a feature of Android that was added to Eclaire that allows Google (with your permission) to backup your settings (apps, wifi key, ect). Give the phone a minute and you ll see in your app launcher that your apps are being added automatically! When its done, you ll get a notification that says “ “X” number of apps reinstalled. Saves you time and work, and now your launcher will stop lagging.
Issue- There are so many Froyo ROMS! Which one is the best one!??!
Workaround- This is like asking if basketball is cooler than football. In short: it’s a matter of opinion. I can however share my findings so far.
Cyan6- We all know the quality of Cyan and TeamDouches work. When there ROMS go stable, they..well…they JUST WORK GREAT. Cyans ROMS are always very detailed and COMPLETE (trackball lights, wallpapers, advanced options) Right now, for me the ROM is still very buggy, so I would give it the number 3 spot.
RoDrIgUeZsTyLe- If you like overclocking and speed, this ROM is a winner! His ROMS have a lot of kernel options and overclocking enhancements, and are fairly stable. Very recommended.
Enomther- At this very moment, this ROM takes the cake and is easily my number 1 pick. Stable, fast, TONS of enhanced features and extra settings, and I can honestly say I haven’t had one FC yet. I can understand why hes one of the top dogs here. His newest ROM has been an AWESOME Froyo experience for me, and I ll be sticking with him until Cyan goes stable.
PLEASE NOTE THAT THERE ARE MANY OTHER FROYO ROMS. THESE ARE JUST THE ONES THAT I HAD THE BEST EXPERIENCES WITH. YOUR PERSONAL EXPERIENCE MAY VARY!! THE DEVS HERE ALL DO GREAT WORK, AND THIS IS BY NO MEANS SAYING THAT ONE IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER!
Anyway, that’s all I have for now. I hope this helps out, and I ll be adding to this thread as more common problems come to me. I hope it helps someone out, and I really hope it saves our awesome devs some time from answering questions. After all, it takes time creating all the awesomeness that they bring!

**Reserved for future issues**

great job dude thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge

How about the market not installing apps? I keep trying with CMRC1 and it downloads the app just fine but stalls on the installation

PhantomRampage said:
How about the market not installing apps? I keep trying with CMRC1 and it downloads the app just fine but stalls on the installation
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Ok, that's a new one for me. So you can download the app, but can't install it? Are you having his problem on wifi and 3g?

PhantomRampage said:
How about the market not installing apps? I keep trying with CMRC1 and it downloads the app just fine but stalls on the installation
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Ok, that's a new one for me. So you can download the app, but can't install it? Are you having his problem on wifi and 3g?
EDIT- have a look on your SD card.is there a folder called " android secure"?

Just checked and yeah there is, it's hidden though (.android_secure)
Is this what's giving me trouble?

PhantomRampage said:
Just checked and yeah there is, it's hidden though (.android_secure)
Is this what's giving me trouble?
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Quite possibly yes. Try deleting that folder, rebooting, and then try to install. Make sure the folder doesnt reappear after reboot. If it does, try just deleting it and then downloading and installing an app.
Also, be sure to let me know if it works, so that I can add it to the thread.

thank you for the information. I would suggest that you try Leo Froyo. Very stable and full of options.

PhantomRampage said:
How about the market not installing apps? I keep trying with CMRC1 and it downloads the app just fine but stalls on the installation
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i have the same problem... even if i delete che android_secure folder

*delete*
wrong post. Sorry.

Dai323 said:
Quite possibly yes. Try deleting that folder, rebooting, and then try to install. Make sure the folder doesnt reappear after reboot. If it does, try just deleting it and then downloading and installing an app.
Also, be sure to let me know if it works, so that I can add it to the thread.
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no the .android_secure folder is where apps2sd for froyo go....

flybyme said:
no the .android_secure folder is where apps2sd for froyo go....
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Are u using the old apps2sd or the new? I read in another thread that deleting this folder was allowing some to download apps after deleting it. I personally haven't had his problem, but ill search around to see if I can find a workaround.

Download this file here and make sure it doesn't have .txt as file ext, but .xml instead. Rename if necessary.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6602402&postcount=8
Then follow this instruction.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7046487&postcount=29
If it doesn't work, you most likely don't have the shared_prefs folder. So just create one.
Hope it helps. Good luck.
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How about the market not installing apps? I keep trying with CMRC1 and it downloads the app just fine but stalls on the installation
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Dai323 said:
Are u using the old apps2sd or the new? I read in another thread that deleting this folder was allowing some to download apps after deleting it. I personally haven't had his problem, but ill search around to see if I can find a workaround.
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apps2sd for froyo as in the built in implementation of apps2sd native to it. its not apps2ext
hook up the sd to your pc and have a look inside youll see your apps lol

flybyme said:
apps2sd for froyo as in the built in implementation of apps2sd native to it. its not apps2ext
hook up the sd to your pc and have a look inside youll see your apps lol
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LOL. Yes, I know what the new Froyo apps to sd is I asked because in many of the Froyo ROMS you have the possibility to choose between the new implemented from Google apps2sd or the old style apps2sd that we seen in builds prior to Froyo.
Have you given rjhay22's suggestion a try? Please let me know if it fixes so that I can get it added to the original post.

Moved too general area
Love the concept of this thread

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Moved too general area
Love the concept of this thread
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Thanks Im just hoping we can save the devs some time. I ll keep adding to it the more and more we find solutions.

Never seen any of these problems... Apps2SD is okay, just more apps need to support it.. I have 4-5 5M+ apps which don't, and it'd help a lot if they did. I'm sitting around 30M free after clearing browser cache with a ton of apps installed on my stock OTA.

khaytsus said:
Never seen any of these problems... Apps2SD is okay, just more apps need to support it.. I have 4-5 5M+ apps which don't, and it'd help a lot if they did. I'm sitting around 30M free after clearing browser cache with a ton of apps installed on my stock OTA.
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well if you have the mod install location app you can force the option to allow apps to be moved to SD
@Dai323
haha sorry i was using froyo apps to sd. I dont think it makes any difference whether that folder is there or not unless something is entirely screwed up with a rom flash.
ive read that the solution rjahays solution will work for enomthers for sure as well as modacos rom

[Q] problem: apps fail to install from market

hi, i installed mdeejays android version succesfully, however some apps fail to install via market.
for example angry birds and the latest facebook app. the smaller apps will install without any problem. but the important apps wont. what can i do about this?
i read something about unmounting SD card. i tried that. But still got the problem.
What should i do?
I really want the facebook 1.5.0 app
tnx

Do you get an error or do they just stuck on 100% after downloading?

JanssoN said:
Do you get an error or do they just stuck on 100% after downloading?
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I get an error. But sometimes the download just cancels itself.
however, the main problem is the error. because i could download the apk file via rapidshare etc.
But the problem is the error. the error says after the install bar runs:
Application did not install. (in dutch)
The other problem, with the download cancelling is like this:
when selecting an app for download, the download bar starts running.
But after a few seconds the download bar disappears by itself. so eventually, the app never reaches my phone. in fact the download never completes.
so there are 2 problems. but the first problem is worse than the second.
However, it would be great if you could help me to solve them both.
First problem: i get an error when installing certain apps.
second: My downloads from the market wont complete.
sorry for any weird sentences, english is not my first language.

Kinda glad to know that I'm not the only one with the same problem... still trying to figure out what happened.
I know a clean install will fix the problem but I don't want to go through that again...
My phone is a Motorola Milestone running CM6 10.12.22

i just did a clean install from the latest android out there (darkstone superram 0.1) with the dutch vodafone data mod and i cannot download a single byte from the market. the market itself works fine over wifi or G3, but all files refuse to download.
thing that sucks as well is that i have the apk for applanet on the sd card but a cannot get to it as the darkstone lacks a sd card explorer app....

When that happened to me, Market reported an error -18. An online search recommended deleting a hidden directory ".android_secure" on the SD card. I'm running CM6.1 on a CDMA Hero with most of my apps running from the SD. From what I found online, that secure stuff is for Froyo apps2sd... which is why some apps downloaded and installed okay, and why some apps downloaded, but failed to install.
You can also try some cache dumps including Dalvik. Run "Fix Permissions" in ROM Manager. Then try the downloads again. If that still doesn't work, you might want to delete the ".android_secure" hidden directory.
Make sure to do a Nand backup and copy the contents of the SD card onto your computer before attempting any fix. Play it safe.
Good luck.

Market problems

Many times, when i try to download an app, the market says that i don't have space for it, and of course i have. I tried to move apps to the SD, and it still happens. I rolled back to the old market and it says that the download failed.
I can only solve it with a reboot, when i reboot, i can download lots of apps with no problem, but after some time, the error comes back and i've to reboot again
i've tried uninstalling updates, cleaning market data, etc...
I've clean JVT with semaphore kernel
how can i solve it and why this happens? it also happen with you?
And i've another question, why the market says that apps like nfl rivals are not compatible with my phone when they are? it also says that most of gameloft games are not compatible my GT-i9000

Might be a problem with a ext4 partition, this has happend to me when on voodoo lagfix and then installed another rom non-lagfixed.
Try to reinstall your rom using repartition with 512.pit file, this should help.
You should always remove any lagfixes before changing roms unless instructed otherwise.
About games compatibility... I really don't know, maybe is part of the same problem.

gtluis said:
Might be a problem with a ext4 partition, this has happend to me when on voodoo lagfix and then installed another rom non-lagfixed.
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No, this is a market problem. It writes the downloaded files to /cache/ and sometimes does not delete old files, so there is no more space in that filesystem. Also if a apk is bigger than the size of /cache/ (~30M) it fails to install.
See also: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1243170

elhennig said:
No, this is a market problem. It writes the downloaded files to /cache/ and sometimes does not delete old files, so there is no more space in that filesystem. Also if a apk is bigger than the size of /cache/ (~30M) it fails to install.
See also: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1243170
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so, that happens because /cache gets full, and when i reboot, the phone cleans it?
it also happens with the old market 2.XX
is there any way to fix that?
The game compatibility issue seems to happen because something is wrong with build.prop . In cyanogen happened something like this, so i changed a few lines of the build.prop to make market think that my phone is a nexus S and it worked.

lpalvaro said:
so, that happens because /cache gets full, and when i reboot, the phone cleans it?
it also happens with the old market 2.XX
is there any way to fix that?
The game compatibility issue seems to happen because something is wrong with build.prop . In cyanogen happened something like this, so i changed a few lines of the build.prop to make market think that my phone is a nexus S and it worked.
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You can enable 50mb virtual cash in Semaphore script manager. That should fix it.

McDown said:
You can enable 50mb virtual cash in Semaphore script manager. That should fix it.
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ok, i'll do it