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Hey all. I have searched but I was unable to find a thread pertaining this issue.
Phone: Android Dev Phone 1
Running: JFv1.50 ADP1.5
What has happened is that today SU/Root seemingly stopped working. I discovered it when I bought Kosh's Screenshot app and started it up. The app requires SU permission, and therefore the "SU Request" window popped up. But it's blank. A blank black screen which eventually will run low on memory and then force close.
I then tried to open the Superuser Permission app, same result. Opened Task Manager for Root Users, same deal. Opened the Terminal Emulator and typed "su", which actually worked! I still had SU privs there. Closed the TE and decided to reboot the phone, and now I don't have SU privs in TE anymore. Everything that's non root related is still working fine.
Does anyone have an idea what's happening here? I suspect that maybe the Market Enabler app or the AdsFree apps could have something to do with it, because they're the only root related apps I have installed the last few weeks, before this problem occurred.
I'm sure a wipe would fix this glitch, but I'd prefer not to do that unless it's necessary. Plus, it would be nice to know what's causing this, so I can avoid it in the future.
Same thing has happened to me. It worked fine for Term Emu, task manager, and ad block. But I tried using an OC app and when super user popped up blank. All my previous apps still work but any new root apps I install do not work. Not sure why though and the only way I found to fix it is to wipe. Do you have your apps on the sd card? I'm using the old method haven't gotten around to trying the new method. Not sure if that is the issue or not, the old version of super user never gave me any issues.
I did a wipe, and it sorted the problem out, for some root apps. Now I'm back to the same crap again though, the SU Request window pops up but it's all black and eventually it force closes.
According JF's blog he included "a much better Superuser app, courtesy of zinx" in the 1.50 release. It's obviously what's causeing our problems, I never had an issue with the old one, but I don't know what to do about it. I don't want to go back to 1.1 or Haykuro's builds. I guess I'm stuck with a semi-crippled JFv1.50 ADP1.5 until someone with more brains than me finds and posts a proper solution.
Yeah Ive been noticing the same thing. Also the superuser list GUI is horrible. I liked how in the last one you can choose what programs you'd want to remove su access from.
andonnguyen said:
Yeah Ive been noticing the same thing. Also the superuser list GUI is horrible. I liked how in the last one you can choose what programs you'd want to remove su access from.
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Exactly. I'm not sure what he means by "a much better Superuser app", because for a layman like myself it seems a lot worse than the old one
This is just going from bad to worse. Now I discovered I have no positioning via wifi/3G anymore. I have to start the GPS and go outside and wait for a signal to get a lock on my position, which sucks. What the hell is going on? If not even a wipe is enough I guess I'm looking at a complete reinstall, but if all this has happened once it can/will happen again. I would much prefer to find the cause of all this crap.
Ok, so I found the cause for the Assisted GPS issue at least. My Micro SD card needed repairs. I put it in a SD card adapter and plugged it in to my laptop and let Vista repair the file system (apparently there were close to 100 errors on the damn thing) and now it seems to be working again.
Edit: This might actually have fixed my issues with the superuser permissions too. Knock on wood. I'll have to get back to you on this.
I'm having this Exact issue
I am having this exact same issue on dudes build. I have tried everything from scanning to formatting the SD i have flashed back and forth from Jf1.42 to jf1.50 and then to all different dude builds and i have no clue what to do next.
I do a wipe every time i flash and the only way to get any su access is to have jf1.42 or haykuro build. Anyone Else having an issue? I have been working on this for 3 days straight now...
For me it was an SD card issue. If you have a spare card, try that instead, or if you can borrow a card from a friend, just to see if it resolves your problems.
I realize that you have repaired/formatted your SD card, but it could be something wrong with it that screws things up. Worth a try, right?
Absolutely I'm looking for one right now thanks for the quick response. I'll let you know if it works. I have a 2gb sandisk in there now, so i still have my 1gb and my girlfriends 1gb too. Her phone has no su problems at all.
I also ran across the same problem reported here, only a wipe solved it. I believe it had something to do with the Market Enabler (non-signed) app, which was the only one I installed that first showed me the dreadful empty SU screen...
Fixed It
My Problem has been fixed by formatting the sd card with the phone itself.
I copied off all my info, unmounted it from the computer, unmounted it from the phone, this gave the option to format the sd card.
Once that was done i copied all my data back and when i installed programs from my sd i have not had a single su problem since.
I was having all these same problems in JF's 1.5 build, and none of the wiping/formatting SD/trying a different SD card combinations did the trick. Then, I went into JF's blog post where he released 1.5, and someone posted there that enabling USB debugging would fix the issue. I did this, and what do you know, now my superuser permissions app works again in everything, even in unsigned apps! Maybe this is why a wipe fixed it for some people, and not for others?
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Then, I went into JF's blog post where he released 1.5, and someone posted there that enabling USB debugging would fix the issue. I did this, and what do you know, now my superuser permissions app works again in everything, even in unsigned apps! Maybe this is why a wipe fixed it for some people, and not for others?
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Not to Jesus resurrect this thread, but I had the same issue and same fix as n17ikh here on the ION build. Enabled USB debugging and su/superuser permissions started working Too bad I have to disable USB debugging in order for my car stereo to mount my G1 as a USB device, but at least I have a solution
Hope this helps anyone else who may stumble upon this.
I have JACMan Hero r1.62, and when i install another firmware such as the JF 1.51,CyanogenMod and even SuperHero v1 i get force close for all my applications when i use apptosd.
I wipe before i update, im tired of Hero...force close like every minutes...so i want to move back to normal JF v1.51, but everytime i use apptosd the apps installs and i see the icons and everything but they force close when i tap it. But when i use apptosd on JACMAN hero i get no force close.
Help please :]
Run fix_permissions and if that doesn't work try reformatting your SDcard
sounds like permission issues
search for that.
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Run fix_permissions and if that doesn't work try reformatting your SDcard
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beat me to it!
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Okay running it, lets see if it works.
I still get tons of force close after running fix_permissions.sh
it doesn't sound like a permissions error it sounds like a corrupt file system, either do a file system check using cyanogen's recovery or reformat your ext2/3 partition. if the file system check won't run it's cause you need to reformat
the force closes are coming from the apps...i think the cause may be the hero apps that are still on my SD, anyone know of a way to get rid of them easy?
Also I don't think is a corrupt file system, since all my apps works for the JACMAN builds and not for others.
and could you provide a link to cyanogen's recovery, thanks.
Bump, for helpp.
http://tinyurl.com/mqhx4d
Google does wonders...First post
Sorry couldn't resist
Okay i installed cyanogen's recovery and ran repair ext file system, and i got "error checking filesystem! Run e2fscl manually from console!" so i go to console and run e2fscl and now im stuck from there and have no idea what to do now.
If it failed running you have a corrupt file system, I don't care what you say you're wrong and need to reformat
Thanks.
is there a guide reformating my ext2 without destroying another gb on my sdcard?
So, as Froyo is slowly becoming the standard around here, I thought I would post a few workarounds for some of the problems that people are having with Froyo and the wide selections of Froyo ROMS to choose from. I put this list together, as these problems I see coming up in many of the Froyo ROM threads.
So, I ll start with a few of the most common ones, and will add to this list later.
Issue -My apps are appearing twice in the ADW apps launcher after moving them to the SD card! (Froyo apps2sd)
Workaround-It seems almost everytime I reboot the phone that Im getting the apps appearing twice. If you uninstall ADW, and then reinstall it, then it stops. So what I ve done for the time being is to install ADW new, get all the widgets and apps you want on the home screen, and then go into the restore and backup settings in ADW launcher. Make a backup of your ADW settings and of your homescreens and save those to your sd card (it does this automatically). Then, the next time you need to reboot your phone and you see double apps coming up, just go into ADW settings and "Restore" your settings for the launcher and homescreens. Then the double apps go away, your settings are retained, and your apps and widgets are back on your homescreen.
If your using the same apps and widgets all the time, its probably a good idea to do a Nandroid after you ve done this, and to save the 2 ADW save files stored on your sd card just in case you ever want to quickly restore your settings again.
Issue- Froyo apps2sd is rubbish! I only have 40mb left on internal storage! I want the old apps2sd back!!
Workaround- First off, I have to admit that at first I didn’t like the new Froyo apps2sd. But actually now, I like it more, due to the fact that you don’t need an EXT or swap (meaning MORE SPEED), AND coupled with the fact theres a very easy way to get FOUR TIMES MORE STORAGE than the 40mb (estimate for 115 apps) that you have left. The solution? Easy..all you have to do is go into your ROMS settings, and “move dalvik to cache”. To put it simply, I have 117 apps installed on my phone. After I moved them all to the sd card, I had 40mb left. I then went into the spare parts on Emonthers ROM, and enabled “dalvik on cache”. I then rebooted, and VOILA…137mb free internal space.
I cant confirm that all ROMS have this option, but if your ROM does have it, it’s the way to go. From what I ve read (please correct me if im wrong), this space is allocated mostly for OTA updates. As most of us here have root, why not use that space to free up some internal memory! After doing this, my phone is running VERY fast and smooth.
Issue- My phone keeps rebooting at the load screen! HELP!!
Workaround -This commonly occurs if you didn’t wipe properly when coming from another ROM. If this is happening to you, you ll need to:
Pull your battery to get the loops to stop
Reboot into recovery
Do a full wipe, then if you have an ext partition wipe that. Also wipe cache and dalvik settings. This is very important. Then flash your ROM. Your Bootloops should then stop. And remember, if your partioning your card, remember to REPAIR EXT PARTITIONS. This is VERY important and will save you lots of grief.
Issue- When I record video my phone reboots! HELP!
Workaround- This means you haven’t installed the Froyo radio. You ll need to be sure you have either flashed the zip version of the Froyo radio or installed the image (Cyan says installing the image is safer. Im sure hes probably right, but I can confirm I have flashed the zip version of the radio and it works fine).
Issue-I don’t know which apps to install to the sd card and which I should leave on the phone! AAARRGGHH!
Workaround- From what I have read, what you ll want to leave on the phone are:
Widgets, apps that have widgets that you use, keyboards, and system apps. I also keep my sms app on the phone, although Im sure it will work fine on the SD card.
Issue- I just flashed a new ROM, and now the app launcher is all slow! Whats up with that??
Workaround- This is most likely because your apps are being automatically redownloaded and installed. This is a feature of Android that was added to Eclaire that allows Google (with your permission) to backup your settings (apps, wifi key, ect). Give the phone a minute and you ll see in your app launcher that your apps are being added automatically! When its done, you ll get a notification that says “ “X” number of apps reinstalled. Saves you time and work, and now your launcher will stop lagging.
Issue- There are so many Froyo ROMS! Which one is the best one!??!
Workaround- This is like asking if basketball is cooler than football. In short: it’s a matter of opinion. I can however share my findings so far.
Cyan6- We all know the quality of Cyan and TeamDouches work. When there ROMS go stable, they..well…they JUST WORK GREAT. Cyans ROMS are always very detailed and COMPLETE (trackball lights, wallpapers, advanced options) Right now, for me the ROM is still very buggy, so I would give it the number 3 spot.
RoDrIgUeZsTyLe- If you like overclocking and speed, this ROM is a winner! His ROMS have a lot of kernel options and overclocking enhancements, and are fairly stable. Very recommended.
Enomther- At this very moment, this ROM takes the cake and is easily my number 1 pick. Stable, fast, TONS of enhanced features and extra settings, and I can honestly say I haven’t had one FC yet. I can understand why hes one of the top dogs here. His newest ROM has been an AWESOME Froyo experience for me, and I ll be sticking with him until Cyan goes stable.
PLEASE NOTE THAT THERE ARE MANY OTHER FROYO ROMS. THESE ARE JUST THE ONES THAT I HAD THE BEST EXPERIENCES WITH. YOUR PERSONAL EXPERIENCE MAY VARY!! THE DEVS HERE ALL DO GREAT WORK, AND THIS IS BY NO MEANS SAYING THAT ONE IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER!
Anyway, that’s all I have for now. I hope this helps out, and I ll be adding to this thread as more common problems come to me. I hope it helps someone out, and I really hope it saves our awesome devs some time from answering questions. After all, it takes time creating all the awesomeness that they bring!
**Reserved for future issues**
great job dude thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge
How about the market not installing apps? I keep trying with CMRC1 and it downloads the app just fine but stalls on the installation
PhantomRampage said:
How about the market not installing apps? I keep trying with CMRC1 and it downloads the app just fine but stalls on the installation
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Ok, that's a new one for me. So you can download the app, but can't install it? Are you having his problem on wifi and 3g?
PhantomRampage said:
How about the market not installing apps? I keep trying with CMRC1 and it downloads the app just fine but stalls on the installation
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Ok, that's a new one for me. So you can download the app, but can't install it? Are you having his problem on wifi and 3g?
EDIT- have a look on your SD card.is there a folder called " android secure"?
Just checked and yeah there is, it's hidden though (.android_secure)
Is this what's giving me trouble?
PhantomRampage said:
Just checked and yeah there is, it's hidden though (.android_secure)
Is this what's giving me trouble?
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Quite possibly yes. Try deleting that folder, rebooting, and then try to install. Make sure the folder doesnt reappear after reboot. If it does, try just deleting it and then downloading and installing an app.
Also, be sure to let me know if it works, so that I can add it to the thread.
thank you for the information. I would suggest that you try Leo Froyo. Very stable and full of options.
PhantomRampage said:
How about the market not installing apps? I keep trying with CMRC1 and it downloads the app just fine but stalls on the installation
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i have the same problem... even if i delete che android_secure folder
*delete*
wrong post. Sorry.
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Quite possibly yes. Try deleting that folder, rebooting, and then try to install. Make sure the folder doesnt reappear after reboot. If it does, try just deleting it and then downloading and installing an app.
Also, be sure to let me know if it works, so that I can add it to the thread.
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no the .android_secure folder is where apps2sd for froyo go....
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no the .android_secure folder is where apps2sd for froyo go....
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Are u using the old apps2sd or the new? I read in another thread that deleting this folder was allowing some to download apps after deleting it. I personally haven't had his problem, but ill search around to see if I can find a workaround.
Download this file here and make sure it doesn't have .txt as file ext, but .xml instead. Rename if necessary.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6602402&postcount=8
Then follow this instruction.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7046487&postcount=29
If it doesn't work, you most likely don't have the shared_prefs folder. So just create one.
Hope it helps. Good luck.
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How about the market not installing apps? I keep trying with CMRC1 and it downloads the app just fine but stalls on the installation
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Are u using the old apps2sd or the new? I read in another thread that deleting this folder was allowing some to download apps after deleting it. I personally haven't had his problem, but ill search around to see if I can find a workaround.
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apps2sd for froyo as in the built in implementation of apps2sd native to it. its not apps2ext
hook up the sd to your pc and have a look inside youll see your apps lol
flybyme said:
apps2sd for froyo as in the built in implementation of apps2sd native to it. its not apps2ext
hook up the sd to your pc and have a look inside youll see your apps lol
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LOL. Yes, I know what the new Froyo apps to sd is I asked because in many of the Froyo ROMS you have the possibility to choose between the new implemented from Google apps2sd or the old style apps2sd that we seen in builds prior to Froyo.
Have you given rjhay22's suggestion a try? Please let me know if it fixes so that I can get it added to the original post.
Moved too general area
Love the concept of this thread
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Love the concept of this thread
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Thanks Im just hoping we can save the devs some time. I ll keep adding to it the more and more we find solutions.
Never seen any of these problems... Apps2SD is okay, just more apps need to support it.. I have 4-5 5M+ apps which don't, and it'd help a lot if they did. I'm sitting around 30M free after clearing browser cache with a ton of apps installed on my stock OTA.
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Never seen any of these problems... Apps2SD is okay, just more apps need to support it.. I have 4-5 5M+ apps which don't, and it'd help a lot if they did. I'm sitting around 30M free after clearing browser cache with a ton of apps installed on my stock OTA.
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well if you have the mod install location app you can force the option to allow apps to be moved to SD
@Dai323
haha sorry i was using froyo apps to sd. I dont think it makes any difference whether that folder is there or not unless something is entirely screwed up with a rom flash.
ive read that the solution rjahays solution will work for enomthers for sure as well as modacos rom
Hi all!
Quite the n00b at this forum, so bare with me. I've tried to search for a solution to my problem, but haven't been able to find any.
My problem started with me having several app crashes, even those native to the phone like the Market app. I guess it happened after I installed several apps, and also a couple of launchers (ADW and LauncherPro). I decided to uninstall several apps to see if I could get the system running without any more apps crashing when using them. What happened though was that the apps I uninstalled just appeared again after doing a reset of the phone... I've tried it several times, and can't seem to get rid of neither the apps nor the launchers.
After this I thought doing a hard reset might solve the issue, but no go. I got an errormsg in the reset, and when the phone started again, all of my data (contacts, sms and such) was deleted, but most apps, and those launchers, was still there.
Would have posted a picture of it, but since I'm "new", I'm not allowed. The msg was:
multicsc : can not acces to /system/csc/XEE/system/
I don't know if the error is related to the uninstalling problem at all though..
What to do?
Have you tried all ways of uninstalling?
Market/ File Manager/ Managing Applications / Edit Menu?
If not sounds like a factory reset may be in order :/ Or even worse you have to format your SD card as a lot of app data gets saved onto it.
I've tried the factory reset as I also wrote, perhaps I shouldn't have called it a "hard reset"
I guess I can try to format the SD card, perhaps the problem lies with the card. Seems strange though that I don't get an error when trying to uninstall the apps from the "Manage applications" menu..
How can i uninstall via File Manager?
Update: Formating SD card did nothing..
No one got any clue? I just got the phone a couple of days ago, and its quite frustrating not being able to use it properly.
Yet another update: Seems I can't delete _anything_ on the phones internal memory, it just pops up again after doing a restart of the phone. I've even connected it to my PC and deleted some files via explorer..
Maybe its time to install a new rom like Samset 1.9b
As it fully wipes and reinstalls the os. If you don't want to do that I recommend you get it repaired or replaced. I find that factory reset sometimes don't actually work but a new rom does.
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Thanks alot for answering
I've considered it. But I'm not sure I want to break my warranty which I guess flashing it might do? And also, if thats the case, it would be real bad to flash it/void warranty, just to find out I need to get it repaired anyways. That would suck bigtime..
I can't for the life of me figure out what might be wrong, seeing as NOTHING stucks to the internal memory after a restart of the phone..
Noone that has got any clues on what to do?
New update:
I've tried updating FW to JM2, seemed to go fine. But after update/flashing, I see that I still got the same apps and desktop background and such lying about.. Nothing seems to have been deleted.. And now I also get app errors immediately after starting up the phone. Menus and such seem to work fine.
I have a really bad issue with this process.android.acore thing. Whenever I install darkstone's FyoroStone 3.17 build, it runs fine and I restore my apps and whatnot and go on my merry way. After 5 minutes the HTC Calendar process force closes and after any future restart, I get the process.android.acore force close issue, where I keep getting the little box that asks me to bloody end the thing.
I have reinstalled and reformatted my SD card several times. Anyone have any ideas?
Using ChukyRom Tabtastic, TMOUS 1GB HD2, FyoroStone 3.17
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=process.android.acore
Hope this helps
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I have a really bad issue with this process.android.acore thing. Whenever I install darkstone's FyoroStone 3.17 build, it runs fine and I restore my apps and whatnot and go on my merry way. After 5 minutes the HTC Calendar process force closes and after any future restart, I get the process.android.acore force close issue, where I keep getting the little box that asks me to bloody end the thing.
I have reinstalled and reformatted my SD card several times. Anyone have any ideas?
Using ChukyRom Tabtastic, TMOUS 1GB HD2, FyoroStone 3.17
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How are you restoring you apps, from the market or titanium backup?
The reason I ask is because if you're using titanium backup, you might be messing with the settings, but that's if you're restoring system settings with you batch also. Only thing I can think of.
Also, have you tried using another build to see if you get that issue?
I am using Titanium Backup. I am only restoring the settings that have been backed up from earlier iterations of the same build before this error started.
Furthermore, I am currently downloading mdjeey's build to see if that fixes it.
I'm also flashing to a different WinMo Rom, but that's a different story.
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I am using Titanium Backup. I am only restoring the settings that have been backed up from earlier iterations of the same build before this error started.
Furthermore, I am currently downloading mdjeey's build to see if that fixes it.
I'm also flashing to a different WinMo Rom, but that's a different story.
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Yeah, try Mdeejay's build and see if you get the same issue; and when you restore just restore the apps and not the system settings. I personally like his latest Froyo HD.
I prefer the Sense build. Makes me look totally awesome when I pinch and show all 5 windows and pick which to see in front of my friends.
That one is a sense build, based on the new DesireHD ROM. It's pretty nice
Only problem for me is the camera not working. That's a deal breaker for me, but it's still nice to have it on my SD
You can have more than 1 Android on your phone without it messing up and going all wonky?
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You can have more than 1 Android on your phone without it messing up and going all wonky?
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yup, I haven't had an issue and I've had up to 4 different builds on my sdcard. As long as you rename the android folder to something else, and change the rel_path= in the startup.txt
I use EBL which comes included in the WinMo ROM I use (on my sig if you want to give it a try)
Edit: EBL is the program that autoboots the android builds. Or you can just manually do it by going to the folder and clicking the CLRCAD and HaRET.
Is there any way I could talk to you directly sir, say through Skype or AIM or something of the sort?
Zynro said:
Is there any way I could talk to you directly sir, say through Skype or AIM or something of the sort?
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I'm guessing you have a google account? I'll PM you my email.