I was looking and there are 4 touch flo versions available for the touch pro. The stock version, the hd tf3d port, the tf3d 2 port, and the tf2d port. Has anyone compared these versions to see which one was smoother and quicker on the touch pro/rafael?
tf2d > rhodium > hd > stock.
Manilla 2D Is always going to be smoother than Manilla 3D since it uses less GPU resources. If you can run Manilla 3D I would go for it if i was you its a nicer experience.
I can run the 3d but I don't know whether to use the stock, the, hd port or the tf3d 2 port. According to kraize the tf3d 2 would be better than the others. I guess it is time to read through that long thread and see what I need to install to get it working good on my sprint touch pro.
Has anyone tried it on the Mogul (6800/Titan) yet by chance?
You might be able to run 2d on a Titan. It runs on my wife's Vogue perfectly and probably is about as stable as 3d on My Pro. Give it a try and if it does not work uninstall it. However the Titan has about half as much memory as the Vogue and had some problems with the Cube so you may be sol.
I ran 2D on my Titan and found that it was horrendously slow. Don't even try running 3D on it. But now that I have the Pro (too lazy to change my sig), it rocks =D
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Is it possible to put a TouchFLO 3D on a Jade?
Yes? >> Where can i download it?
No >> Why not?
No, the Touch 3g has no 3D hardware.
one of the reasons why jade has much better standby time than diamond i guess, besides the battery...
3D on Jade
I do not understand the statement that Jade does not have 3D hardware. I use TomTom and see a 3D screen at all times, also SPB Traveller, software in which a tab with a turn capable 3D earth globe is available. Both programs, they even used to run on my very old Qtek S200 too. I do not understand what does mean having a 3D capable graphical interface versus not having it when it is the software which makes the difference. In other words, Open GL or Direct X are used to run with or without 3D hardware acceleration on desktop PC's. What is the real difference when it comes to PPC? I ignore that and I just want to understand it before I give up the idea of choosing between Manila 2D (shipped) or Touch 3D (wished) Regards
Missing 3D hardware probably isn't a problem. But touchflo 3d has been designed for VGA, not QVGA. And _if_ Touchflo 3D required 3d hardware accelation, then porting will be even more difficult.
Here is an Enhanced D3D Driver for our Touch Pro2. Before you install driver run the D3DDemo file from your phone. Extract D3DMDemo.exe and copy it anywhere on your phone (Storage Card is good). Run it and see how slow it runs with the default D3D Driver. Then install At0mAng Enhanced D3D Driver.cab, restart and run the D3DMDemo again and see the difference
Enjoy!
Just to make things clear. I did not develop the driver, it was from the Samsung Omnia and the libgles_CL.dll comes from NuShrike. I have been using it since my TyTN II days, gave it a shot on the Rhodium and it worked. I did not see it in this forum so I cabbed it up (was OEM in my kitchen) and posted it.
The cab file contains two dlls both from the D3DM driver and the correct registry settings for d3dm_ati.dll.
To learn more about this driver and to try newer releases please see this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=496528
There have been a few reports that the drivers from above thread break a couple of things like the G-Sensor with Opera so I am posting back the original file I had up. Strange since I do not have that problem with the latest drivers from the above thread.
It's up to you to decide which drivers you would like to use.
Rocks!
TF3D is realy faster.
walter79 said:
Rocks!
TF3D is realy faster.
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Cool...glad it is working on other devices.
Been using this driver since the TyTN II then to Raphael and now on to Rhodium Not sure if it is a good or bad thing that the same driver works on the last 3 devices I have...
Wow! It really worked and the M3D really is faster!
Cheers mate!
-ilari
On the Telus (MSM7600) it went from 0.85 ish FPS to a smooth test. Very dramatic change
Same for me here too
is it really faster?
does it mean, that the video-playback is also better?
TF3D is using OpenGL ES or Direct3D? If it's written for OpenGL ES the new drivers should not have any impact over it. It's only my opinion.
Any ideas?
Just to let you know I also went from 0.75 FPS to about 25 FPS.
Crazy change, just don't notice much difference in TF3D.
what's the difference between this and neo's beta 3d driver pack?
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Just to let you know I also went from 0.75 FPS to about 25 FPS.
Crazy change, just don't notice much difference in TF3D.
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Same opinion. But I cannot see fps in the demo after installing the new driver.
The increase in fps is recognizible high in the demo. The object first is absolutely stuck without the driver. With the driver installed it runs fluidly.
in this demo I have a big boost with this driver !!
Whith games work with that driver? My old quake dont work on my TP2
Will this work on MSM 7201 chipset as well? I don't want to make hardreset again if something will going wrong on my TP1. Thanks.
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Nevermind,I tried it. Unfortunately no visible change happens on Raphael.
No Change
It made no difference on my Touch Pro 1
I installed it on Touch Pro2 and test runs a lot faster. And also TouchFLO 3D runs more smoothly. I don't know why, but it's really faster. I think TF3D2 uses OpenGL-ES and Direct3D driver can't change it's performance.
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Will this work on MSM 7201 chipset as well? I don't want to make hardreset again if something will going wrong on my TP1. Thanks.
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Nevermind,I tried it. Unfortunately no visible change happens on Raphael.
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Strange I thought it should so I have been using it with my TP1. I never did try the demo though to see if it actually worked.
great great work At0mAng
i have tested in my HD and workly very very well
Difference in the Demo is quite noticeable.
will this driver accelerate need for speed undercover or xtrakt as well?
Seems to work awsome. Thanks.
I showed a friend of mine how, on my Fuze, I'm able to flick through my emails in Outlook and he was wondering if there was a similar app for his Palm Pro (Sprint).
Whenever I do a search for 'TouchFlo' on the forum, I usually end up with threads about M2D or M3D, which isn't what I'm looking for. Is there any way to add the TouchFLO from the Fuze/Raphael to the Treo Pro? If not, does anyone know if FTouchFLO provides the same functionality as HTC's TF?
I am almost certian Manilla is a code name from the developers for touchflo. As for the M2D(Manilla 2d) is touchFlo 2d and M3D(Manilla 3D) is touchflo 3D. So thats the case. Go and check youtube videos of M2D or M3D and see if thats what your looking for. But like you said on your Fuze (Touch Pro) then it was M3D which is not working for our treo pro
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334965
You want this! I run it on my wife's TreoPro and it is flawless. The alphas are free, the final versions are now a paid app but include some other stuff along with being a bit more stable. Lighweight and dependable.
Brian:
I'm pretty sure Manilla and TouchFlo are different things. Manilla (2D and 3D) is just a user interface. I'm talking about the underlying gesture recognizer that comes on the Fuze. I call it TouchFLO because that is the entry in the control panel. The wiki says the name 'TouchFLO' is just HTC's branding, but it's also the finger interface that other devices lack.
furry:
I was looking at FTouchFLO, but wasn't sure it did everything my friend liked that HTC's TouchFLO does. On your wife's Treo, when you're in Outlook reading an email, can you flick the screen left for the next message and right for the previous?
Me and Zbop were talking about porting Touch Flo 3D to work on the Treo Pro.
He would patch the binaries to work under 320x320 and I would resize the graphic files and repoistion everything.
I'd have to get in contact with him to see if we can get this going or not.
I for sure would do it.
SO what is available for the Pro as of right now? Just TouchFLO 2D? How does it differ from TouchFLO 3D? I am just using SPB Mobile Shell 3 and find it a vast improvement over the standard Today screen crap. The interface is much sexier and much more condusive to fingering.
It is what it says. Its basically Touch Flo 2D except with 3D graphics and more eye candy.
Though it has more features.
My understanding about M3D vs. M2D is just aesthetics through hardware acceleration. For example, in M2D, the photo browsing tab lets you flick through your photos. M3D does the same, with the added effect of the photo actually sliding off the screen and the next taking its place. Just eye candy. (That, and I think M2D doesn't support VGA resolution as cleanly as M3D.)
You'll notice I'm referring to Manilla 2D and 3D and NOT TouchFLO. The HTC TouchFLO program I started this tread about is the underlying app that recognizes finger gestures for Manilla as well as adding 'flick-scroll' support to apps that don't internally support it (such as Total Commander or Outlook).
The main feature I'm looking for is specifically used in Outlook. It allows you to go to the next email by flicking the screen to the left or the previous to the right. It also allows you to flick to different email accounts if you're looking at the summary screen.
The program that you're looking for to have the finger scrolling option is called:
FtouchSL. I tried version 2.10 and it works just awesome on the Treo Pro GSM.
All you have to do is disable it in apps that don't like it. I'd HIGHLY recommend this proggie. Good luck!
Web Page
http://www.ftouchsl.com/
I don't see why you'd want/need the finger-flicking on devices that have a useable D-pad.
For a touch-only device, yes you need it, and it helps the screen to be the entire user interface.
The Treo Pro has buttons. If you don't want to use them, I suggest buying something with a bigger screen.
i'm using toshiba G810..wm6.5.3
i have a question that is can my phone use sense 1.2/1.5/2.1
how can i use sense?
another qusetion.i crashed when i use xdandroid..
is there any method to help me to use android? i dont' want android kid..
please help me!
From what little information I can find about your device, I doubt you can run Sense on your device. The G180 has a QVGA screen, so it won't be able to run any version of TF3D other than the original QVGA port of TouchFLO 3D. It's probably not going to work though, as TF3D pretty picky about what it runs on, what requirements it has, etc. My advice is that it's not worth it, and you should maybe look of TouchFLO 2D.
XDAndroid is designed for a select few HTC devices, like the Raphael, Blackstone, Diamond, Rhodium, and Topaz. XDAndroid will only work on those devices at this time, as hardware support must be added for each additional device for it to work. Using it on another device, like your Toshiba Portege G180, will not work. The only way for it to work is if developers port XDAndroid to your device, there's nothing you can do to make it work.
I have used several ROMs with sense 2.5 for its quick link facility. I use lots of Medical tools with my HD. But as HD is well outside the capabilities for Sense 2.5 was designed. And I feel it is very slow for everyday use sometimes.
I have used Win 6.5 Titanium with SPB Mobile shell. There are many themes which simulate sense 2.5 with shortcut functionality. For example HTC PURE STYLE 3 from Mobilecustom.fr. There are even win Mobile 7 like skins from Proplus.
I feel some speed gain but not sure whether it is my mind due to bias.
Which combo is faster???? Post your experiences!
using additional application such as SPB Mobile Shell will slow down your HD because of additional RAM consumption. i think standard ROM (no addtional application installed when there're existing application which do the same function) will speed up your HD.
wrong section needs to go in general.
try NRGZ Standard Reference ROM - it's wm6.5+standard sense 2.5
then just install GFXBoost, and get BSB Tweaks and tick all of the graphics boosting boxes, and it should be quite zippy. but try different ROMs - different chefs focus on different things, some on features, others on speed. but there are definitely builds out there with speed.
personally, MS3.5.3 is way too laggy and the features, skins and themes aren't as elegant as Sense 2.5...there is always something not quite as good as sense.
for example - the calendar is not as flexible, smooth or as nice to use as the Sense 2.5 version.
Is there a way to implement quick links or shortcuts in Home page of manila 2.1?
black new
tries Black new V 2.5 Manilla fastest ROM that I had 38%
Winner is SPB Shell. Down load a rom without HTC Sense or manila. Test it by yourself. I got at least 100m RAM left after SPB Shell (70-80m with manila) .
You can also customize the short cuts for it (3 to 5 pages with 10 to 15 shortcuts for each page. It should be enough for your needs.
I have tried few ROMs up to now including Energy, Stonehedge, Kenia and KWBR. I always felt that SPB MS with WIN 6.5 is quite snappy and fast though I love the interface of Sense more.
I've been using Mobile Shell 3.5.5 lately with kwbr's WM6.5 and Manila 2.1 (no Sense) - very impressed. So impressed in fact, that I'm looking for a snappy WM6.1 ROM to use it on as I think this would cover everything I'm looking for!
You should try KWBR's titanium ROM with SPB MS. No point installing a ROM with manila unless you want to switch between two interfaces.
ok, this is useless thread number 23984723492...
As you can see from the responces, there are a lot of possible good and fast roms.
However you just need to try and see what you like best!
Some people say it is 'fast' when it is 'smooth' others sit by their rom with a stopwatch to determen if it's fast...
Oh, and this is not related to rom development, just to the HD so -> subforum general!