Is it possible to put a TouchFLO 3D on a Jade?
Yes? >> Where can i download it?
No >> Why not?
No, the Touch 3g has no 3D hardware.
one of the reasons why jade has much better standby time than diamond i guess, besides the battery...
3D on Jade
I do not understand the statement that Jade does not have 3D hardware. I use TomTom and see a 3D screen at all times, also SPB Traveller, software in which a tab with a turn capable 3D earth globe is available. Both programs, they even used to run on my very old Qtek S200 too. I do not understand what does mean having a 3D capable graphical interface versus not having it when it is the software which makes the difference. In other words, Open GL or Direct X are used to run with or without 3D hardware acceleration on desktop PC's. What is the real difference when it comes to PPC? I ignore that and I just want to understand it before I give up the idea of choosing between Manila 2D (shipped) or Touch 3D (wished) Regards
Missing 3D hardware probably isn't a problem. But touchflo 3d has been designed for VGA, not QVGA. And _if_ Touchflo 3D required 3d hardware accelation, then porting will be even more difficult.
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Anyone going to create a Manila Touchflo for the BA?
i think that is not so easy (impossible ?)
manila is just for vga (640x480) screen.
so it can´t be displayed on a blueangel´s qvga (320x240) screen.
manila need much graphic power.
the diamond use a special 3d graphic chip to render it.
i think manila required biotouch, too.
the blueangel display driver is not compatible with biotouch
wmvfan said:
i think that is not so easy (impossible ?)
manila is just for vga (640x480) screen.
so it can´t be displayed on a blueangel´s qvga (320x240) screen.
manila need much graphic power.
the diamond use a special 3d graphic chip to render it.
i think manila required biotouch, too.
the blueangel display driver is not compatible with biotouch
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We have the regular TouchFlo interface working for virtually every device (haven't tried it in my Wallaby ), which also uses BioTouch (afaik), so I don't think that would be a problem. As far as the qvga thing, look at this (from the Kaiser forums)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395337&page=8
Apparently, there are a few guys in there that might be able to pull this one out.
The only thing that I will agree with you is the fact that we have a huge disadvantage hardware-wise (3D acceleration to be more precise), even when compared with the Kaiser... but don't let your hope down. Someone will come up with something. For instance, ThrottleLauncher 0.9.1 has it pretty close.
I still think that my BA has one more upgrade to go through before I can no longer upgrade(WM7, here I go)
wmvfan said:
i think that is not so easy (impossible ?)
manila is just for vga (640x480) screen.
so it can´t be displayed on a blueangel´s qvga (320x240) screen.
manila need much graphic power.
the diamond use a special 3d graphic chip to render it.
i think manila required biotouch, too.
the blueangel display driver is not compatible with biotouch
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I was totaly wrong.
watch this great work:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398173&page=2
Great link! Anyone have it working on the BA yet?
If not I will test this a little later and post my feedback here or there in the manila link
it works on my blueangel.
i get more than 3.5 frames.
controls doesn´t work yet.
just the home screen is usable.
Hello,
I would like to integrate a program on my touchFlo 3D today screen like photocontact pro (to manage profiles) or SPB traveler (or any other). Do you think it's possible to do so, as I did on my WM6 today screen?
Thanks a lot
HTC Diamond ROM 1.93
should be possible but theres like a million files in manilla
good luck trying to find the one u need
maybe when someone makes a very powerfull manilla editor
Not really... TF3D is an UI platform that resembles Flash greatly. Thus, no external application integration is possible (in current version).
I was looking and there are 4 touch flo versions available for the touch pro. The stock version, the hd tf3d port, the tf3d 2 port, and the tf2d port. Has anyone compared these versions to see which one was smoother and quicker on the touch pro/rafael?
tf2d > rhodium > hd > stock.
Manilla 2D Is always going to be smoother than Manilla 3D since it uses less GPU resources. If you can run Manilla 3D I would go for it if i was you its a nicer experience.
I can run the 3d but I don't know whether to use the stock, the, hd port or the tf3d 2 port. According to kraize the tf3d 2 would be better than the others. I guess it is time to read through that long thread and see what I need to install to get it working good on my sprint touch pro.
Has anyone tried it on the Mogul (6800/Titan) yet by chance?
You might be able to run 2d on a Titan. It runs on my wife's Vogue perfectly and probably is about as stable as 3d on My Pro. Give it a try and if it does not work uninstall it. However the Titan has about half as much memory as the Vogue and had some problems with the Cube so you may be sol.
I ran 2D on my Titan and found that it was horrendously slow. Don't even try running 3D on it. But now that I have the Pro (too lazy to change my sig), it rocks =D
I showed a friend of mine how, on my Fuze, I'm able to flick through my emails in Outlook and he was wondering if there was a similar app for his Palm Pro (Sprint).
Whenever I do a search for 'TouchFlo' on the forum, I usually end up with threads about M2D or M3D, which isn't what I'm looking for. Is there any way to add the TouchFLO from the Fuze/Raphael to the Treo Pro? If not, does anyone know if FTouchFLO provides the same functionality as HTC's TF?
I am almost certian Manilla is a code name from the developers for touchflo. As for the M2D(Manilla 2d) is touchFlo 2d and M3D(Manilla 3D) is touchflo 3D. So thats the case. Go and check youtube videos of M2D or M3D and see if thats what your looking for. But like you said on your Fuze (Touch Pro) then it was M3D which is not working for our treo pro
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334965
You want this! I run it on my wife's TreoPro and it is flawless. The alphas are free, the final versions are now a paid app but include some other stuff along with being a bit more stable. Lighweight and dependable.
Brian:
I'm pretty sure Manilla and TouchFlo are different things. Manilla (2D and 3D) is just a user interface. I'm talking about the underlying gesture recognizer that comes on the Fuze. I call it TouchFLO because that is the entry in the control panel. The wiki says the name 'TouchFLO' is just HTC's branding, but it's also the finger interface that other devices lack.
furry:
I was looking at FTouchFLO, but wasn't sure it did everything my friend liked that HTC's TouchFLO does. On your wife's Treo, when you're in Outlook reading an email, can you flick the screen left for the next message and right for the previous?
Me and Zbop were talking about porting Touch Flo 3D to work on the Treo Pro.
He would patch the binaries to work under 320x320 and I would resize the graphic files and repoistion everything.
I'd have to get in contact with him to see if we can get this going or not.
I for sure would do it.
SO what is available for the Pro as of right now? Just TouchFLO 2D? How does it differ from TouchFLO 3D? I am just using SPB Mobile Shell 3 and find it a vast improvement over the standard Today screen crap. The interface is much sexier and much more condusive to fingering.
It is what it says. Its basically Touch Flo 2D except with 3D graphics and more eye candy.
Though it has more features.
My understanding about M3D vs. M2D is just aesthetics through hardware acceleration. For example, in M2D, the photo browsing tab lets you flick through your photos. M3D does the same, with the added effect of the photo actually sliding off the screen and the next taking its place. Just eye candy. (That, and I think M2D doesn't support VGA resolution as cleanly as M3D.)
You'll notice I'm referring to Manilla 2D and 3D and NOT TouchFLO. The HTC TouchFLO program I started this tread about is the underlying app that recognizes finger gestures for Manilla as well as adding 'flick-scroll' support to apps that don't internally support it (such as Total Commander or Outlook).
The main feature I'm looking for is specifically used in Outlook. It allows you to go to the next email by flicking the screen to the left or the previous to the right. It also allows you to flick to different email accounts if you're looking at the summary screen.
The program that you're looking for to have the finger scrolling option is called:
FtouchSL. I tried version 2.10 and it works just awesome on the Treo Pro GSM.
All you have to do is disable it in apps that don't like it. I'd HIGHLY recommend this proggie. Good luck!
Web Page
http://www.ftouchsl.com/
I don't see why you'd want/need the finger-flicking on devices that have a useable D-pad.
For a touch-only device, yes you need it, and it helps the screen to be the entire user interface.
The Treo Pro has buttons. If you don't want to use them, I suggest buying something with a bigger screen.
Hello. As far as i understand it, the Topaz has a video chip. It even has 64megs of video ram! TF3D is nicely accelerated.
Now I'm just wondering why 3D games like Gameloft's Ferrari GT are so slow (unplayable as a real game). Also I'm using GPS software CoPilot and I thought it was normal for the navigation to have very low FPS. However I found this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIJWAu6IRe4 which shows things doesn't always have to be so crappy (though its tomtom, it's just for showing difference and how smooth it runs on that phone on the left!).
My question: how can I achieve this with my Touch Diamond2?
I have been searching for 'video acceleration' and stuff and only find this 'Diamond D3D driver' which indeed seems to accelerate some apps but they need to be specificaly made (lights thing and hologram).
What is the best thing to do, to make my topaz perform the best in 3rd party 3D stuff? Or should I just forget about it all and never hope on it?
All apps that CAN be accelerated must be written to use the drivers. There are lots of talk of this in the Development and Hacking thread.