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Hi all,
i tried to install the Opera rip from the Touch HD which was posted here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2842296&postcount=1523
first thing to say is it is amazing fast compared to our build in the X1 and it is wqorking really good, but there is one really big problem which makes it useless
If you wanna key in an url with the Hardware keyboard, then after starting after some seconds the fild disapears , with the software keyboard this problem doesnt happen.
I really hope that sony comes soon with an update, or an developer can fix it on this build haha
regards cHarOn
cHarOn99 said:
Hi all,
i tried to install the Opera rip from the Touch HD which was posted here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2842296&postcount=1523
first thing to say is it is amazing fast compared to our build in the X1 and it is wqorking really good, but there is one really big problem which makes it useless
If you wanna key in an url with the Hardware keyboard, then after starting after some seconds the fild disapears , with the software keyboard this problem doesnt happen.
I really hope that sony comes soon with an update, or an developer can fix it on this build haha
regards cHarOn
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Mine does the same and thats the version X1 shipped with..
Anyone tried the file from Opera that was released on the 20th Oct?
http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/download/
Micke401 said:
Mine does the same and thats the version X1 shipped with..
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yes if you longer dont write something but with the HTC build you can write and it will go away anyway so this is an different problem
the X1 version of opera is said to be optimized for the X1 and running really fast (@pocketnow.com Review Youtube Video)
so why install the Touch HD version ?
the TouchHD build is much faster then the built in version, also it has an better xperience in my eyes when it comes to zooming and other things
its still version 9.5, just another build...cant make much difference
did you try it with the same websites, same connection speed etc ?
believe me it is a lot faster on same webpages with same connection (WLAN)
the page rendering is faster, how it displays the page is better, specially on zooming, loadtime is better.
Believe it, i tested it, but have to hardreset to get it away again and to get the originla opera for x1 again.
regards cHarOn
alright, but with that bug you mentioned its not really worth changing
yes agree , its not worth, thats why i posted it , to warn the users, or maybe to see some developers to have an solution for that , maybe i should try an Touch Pro build also, but that is only for VGA and i dont know what happens then
I'm using 2723 and it's much faster than the default one. It loads pages faster, plus it scrolls much much faster, the flick scroll can keep up with your flicks.
The onlt thing is it can't use the default startpage and uses it's own.
I've been trying loads of builds, but I think this is the latest from the Opera site.
works there also the hardware keyboard as it should, i mean if you key in an long webadress will it stay viewable?
ok tested the last beta and you are right, it runs also really fast, same as the Touch HD Build and the good thing with the beta is , it doesnt overwrite the SE Build, it makes an extra installation called Opera Beta, so you can easy remove it again if you dont like it, or let it installed and you can use both
where to you get that build ? Just the latest version from the opera website ?
What about Skyfire ? I heard that is the best browser for WinMo
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What about Skyfire ? I heard that is the best browser for WinMo
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SkyFire won't even run in VGA let alone WVGA
What build is the buildin one (since I don't have my X1 "yet")? I remember there are 2 major version for Opera. The build 2xxx version has this keyboard timeout issue while the 19xx version will not on my Att Tilt
2141 is the build which is installed
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yes if you longer dont write something but with the HTC build you can write and it will go away anyway so this is an different problem
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But it is actually the same problem,it dissapears while i write.
trying out the new beta (9.51) and there the google-field works ok,it,s also faster and more polished in zoom and so on higly recommended.
hmm thats strange, that doesnt happen on mine, it only happens if i stop writing and wait some seconds, but on the HTC build it happens after writing 3 letters and i am fast
so i got 951b2.cab from the website, is that the build you refer to ?
will get my X1 today hopefully
I have a CDMA Diamond Stock 1.22.557.1 ROM Running Opera 9.5 build 2392.
I dont have time (believe me I've tried) to read every post in every thread of each different version to figure out which ones do what. My question is which stable version is the most up to date that will work on my diamond and replace the current Opera thats installed? I don't want to have 2 separate operas taking up all my device storage, and I cant tell which build is the most recent because I have build 2392 and it looks like theres a newer verion thats 15613 or something. Also most of the threads dont even describe whats different about the build. Any help would be appreciated.
Unfortunately there's no single answer to your question.
(Not with the information you've given us.)
I suggest you start reading some Opera threads in the Development & Hacking forum (under General). If you want to make a quick selection on Opera threads, use the search!!!
Extra free tip:
When you post a request, please add [REQ] to the beginning of the thread title...
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Unfortunately there's no single answer to your question.
(Not with the information you've given us.)
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What more information would help? I've added my ROM and current Opera build.
rvdgeer said:
I suggest you start reading some Opera threads in the Development & Hacking forum (under General). If you want to make a quick selection on Opera threads, use the search!!!
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I've tried, and I tried asking this question in the "Main Opera Thread" but no one seems to want to answer questions there. I promise I've searched and I know every build there is I just dont know which one to chose.
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Done! Sorry
Anyone else have more information?
powe6563 said:
What more information would help? I've added my ROM and current Opera build.
I've tried, and I tried asking this question in the "Main Opera Thread" but no one seems to want to answer questions there. I promise I've searched and I know every build there is I just dont know which one to chose.
Done! Sorry
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This is one of the big problems from many users in the forum, they look for information and some freaks complain all along, sending you to the search function. I've tried self many times to look for some info and the search function didn't help me at all, but those who are permanently online (Qt:04:56 PM --> At:05:04 PM*) just can delivery a poorly answer like that
- Well, if you want a faster Opera, install the build 15746 from Samsung Omnia, it ist very fast, support flash and WMP plugins very well, but it does not support Diamond's scroll wheel for zooming and the view does not rotate via Diamonds sensor too. I had it for many weeks on my Device.
Opera v9.5 Build 15746 VGA Samsung Omnia
- Or just use the latest available version from Diamond Pro 2, this one, support flash and wmp plugins too, works stable and supports the scroll wheel, but the view rotation does not work here too
Opera v9.5 Build 15613 VGA Diamond PRO 2
Ahh... hands off from the Opera 9.5 Beta 2 available by Opera.com
Install the opera CAB.file on your main memory to prevent a dual installlation.
Metanol
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!! That's all I needed to know. I dont know why so many people here think that google will take you to every single answer you're looking for. Sometimes its just not there. Again thank you for your help!
EDIT: I understand the Omnia version does not support the scroll zoom but does it still support the double tap zoom? Also is the Omnia version stable otherwise? I like faster and the scroll wheel isnt that big of a deal so as long as I can zoom some way I'll go with that one.
You're welcome
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This is one of the big problems from many users in the forum, they look for information and some freaks complain all along, sending you to the search function. I've tried self many times to look for some info and the search function didn't help me at all, but those who are permanently online (Qt:04:56 PM --> At:05:04 PM*) just can delivery a poorly answer like that
- Well, if you want a faster Opera, install the build 15746 from Samsung Omnia, it ist very fast, support flash and WMP plugins very well, but it does not support Diamond's scroll wheel for zooming and the view does not rotate via Diamonds sensor too. I had it for many weeks on my Device.
Opera v9.5 Build 15746 VGA Samsung Omnia
- Or just use the latest available version from Diamond Pro 2, this one, support flash and wmp plugins too, works stable and supports the scroll wheel, but the view rotation does not work here too
Opera v9.5 Build 15613 VGA Diamond PRO 2
Ahh... hands off from the Opera 9.5 Beta 2 available by Opera.com
Install the opera CAB.file on your main memory to prevent a dual installlation.
Metanol
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Any noticable improvements to warrant loading the newer diamond 2 build over the existing one? I cannot find any comparisons or feature rundown to determine if it worth the effort.
Anybody have some personal feedback?
Ceger
thanks for great answer, i downloaded the Opera v9.5 Build 15613 VGA Diamond PRO 2.. the good thing is the view rotation works on my diamond.
Hey guys, I Dl and installed the 15746 vers from omnia and opera keeps starting by itself over and over again. I cant get it to stay closed.
I just upgraded to the Diamond PRO 2 version on my Diamond and was able to run it once. Now every other time it just doesn't do anything. :S
EDIT: Ok, looks like it was a temporary bug, after a reboot it starts up normally after each close. Another question, maybe noobish... where is this opera.ini everyone keeps talking about? I can't find it.
havnt seen this one yet... but for u admins are u guys going to make an update to get the new tf3d like on the new touch pro 2 ?
didnt see this yet so am sorry if there is one out...
anyone there to make a new manila 3 cab???
i was looking for that also...i know that touch pro users can find a manila cab, but i could not find anyone making cab with manila 3 for touch hd... .
not everyone want or can install new rom to be able to use new manila....is there anyone who could prepare new manila 3 cab????
you'll find the new manila is useless without an updated rom, mate
you do not need an updated ROM for the porting of the Touch Pro. It runs on 19xxx version of Windows in fact. Some additional add-ons (like enhanced notifications and menus) don't work but those are not a part of TF3D itself.
cool thanks for the heads up mate
this thread has a beta version: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493531
is anyone working on the beta for the touch hd (blackstone)??
Khalild said:
this thread has a beta version: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493531
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That's VGA not WVGA so it wont fit the screen on the Touch HD.
Cab for the new calendar?
Hi,
I have got a Touch HD and I am happy with it. The only thing that bothers me, is the Windows mobile calendar. I saw that on the new TFD 2.5 the calendar has improved significantly. Great optic and no WM even when adding an appointment! That is what I was waiting for!! I really want this calendar!! I never modified anything on my device as I am scared to screw up my Touch HD! Is there a possibility to get a cab with the new calendar on the "old" Touch HD TFD? My version should be the 1.3.353...
Please help me... Sorry if it is a impossible thing to ask...
Thanx!
Hi,
Same for me... meaning I'm a noob in this topic and I would like to understand a bit about TF3D because I have seen in several post that there are other versions (2.5....)
My HD has 1.3.35601.1_1630.38 version of TF3D.
Is there any interest for me to upgrade? I have not found a clear explanation of what the new versions are offering...
Faguopal said:
Hi,
Same for me... meaning I'm a noob in this topic and I would like to understand a bit about TF3D because I have seen in several post that there are other versions (2.5....)
My HD has 1.3.35601.1_1630.38 version of TF3D.
Is there any interest for me to upgrade? I have not found a clear explanation of what the new versions are offering...
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Your currently using manila 1.3. The latest manila versions have a better/smoother, more finger friendly interface with additional options & displays (i.e. weather displayed on home tab below clock to name one). Also manila 2.0+ has landscape enabled so you can view all tabs in landscape mode as well as portrait
Thanks,
So is there any way to easily update to 2.0? I'm not used to make modifications so I'm affraid to put the mess in my HD ...
Faguopal said:
Thanks,
So is there any way to easily update to 2.0? I'm not used to make modifications so I'm affraid to put the mess in my HD ...
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I haven't seen a way yet on the HD to update to another version of manila without having to flash a new rom. Its possible on other devices to port to another manila, but as I said, I haven't seen this avilable yet on the HD
Hi guys.
Today I had the occasion to play with a Touch Diamond 2.
Has anyone noticed how speedy Diamond 2 is compared to Touch HD running Dutty 3.0 XT?
Probably is around 2-3 times faster in any operation.
Opera starts around 5 times faster than on my HD running dutty 3.0.
I was shocked to see the difference in speed between these 2 devices.
opera loads instantly with push internet on on the hd which is probably the case on the diamond!
jkr284 said:
opera loads instantly with push internet on on the hd which is probably the case on the diamond!
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I second this notion. Opera loads instantly for me because of this (I have the actual Push thngy turned off, just use it to have Opera load instantly)
Enabling Push Internet just leaves Opera running permanently in the background... You can have that without using push internet: Just don't exit Opera, leave it open! It's available immediately then...
Well...thx...I didn't knew the stuff with push internet but it wasn't just Opera.
Also zoom ana pan inside Opera is a lot faster when rendering pages than on my HD with dutty 3. Both devices runs Opera 9.5 build 16277.
All other things were faster. I noticed for example that the clock that flips when the minute change was also much faster than on my HD.
For me this is a big surprise since these devices have the same platform.(CPU, RAM, ROM, screen resolution etc).
Maybe because D2 has better driver support for its GPU?
No idea to be honest.
Have you tried installing the "GraphPack.zip" package (or the OpenVG drivers from Neo's cab) from the thread below?
Dutty's V3 doesn't include these (Touch-IT roms from Itje on the X1 did), and they do help with the graphics speed to an extent.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=496528
Nope....I'll try your suggestion...thx
sosojerk said:
Hi guys.
Today I had the occasion to play with a Touch Diamond 2.
Has anyone noticed how speedy Diamond 2 is compared to Touch HD running Dutty 3.0 XT?
Probably is around 2-3 times faster in any operation.
Opera starts around 5 times faster than on my HD running dutty 3.0.
I was shocked to see the difference in speed between these 2 devices.
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He is correct it's just not some pusth internet issue. I try to port Touch Diamond 2 rom to Touch HD With out changeing anything and the result is ultra fast rom. Out Rom Developers change lot of things that's why they never get Stock ROM Performance.
tuxhero said:
He is correct it's just not some pusth internet issue. I try to port Touch Diamond 2 rom to Touch HD With out changeing anything and the result is ultra fast rom. Out Rom Developers change lot of things that's why they never get Stock ROM Performance.
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You should share it w/ the community
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You should share it w/ the community
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let me add:.... please
so now which one is faster? i will buy soon or later one of this but i cannot decide. HD is HD, but..5 megapixel camre with cid video...sryyyy....ok, the screen is bigger but i wanna know wich device is faster...
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I second this notion. Opera loads instantly for me because of this (I have the actual Push thngy turned off, just use it to have Opera load instantly)
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hi, can u plz plz plz tell me how u managed to get it workking? reg edit? cab install? been looking for ages for a fix cos whenever i click on a push page, i get the feeling it's just acting as a bookmark!
ssimon989 said:
hi, can u plz plz plz tell me how u managed to get it workking? reg edit? cab install? been looking for ages for a fix cos whenever i click on a push page, i get the feeling it's just acting as a bookmark!
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you can activate it with a cab. dutty put it in his addon applications. the right one is named "Duttys Enable Push Internet.cab"
wrong post..
Once you open Opera and then close it, it remains minimized until you close Manila. That's at least my experience. The new Opera version, available in the latest HD stock ROM, opens way faster than the former version available on 1.14 ROMs.
However, maybe there are updated drivers in the TD2 stock ROM. Hardwarewise they are the same, except for the larger screensize of the HD and the absence of the zoom bar on the latter.
check my sig for an opengl test app and let us know what numbers you get for 3d operations!
Research for me has turned up somewhat conflicting results, so I ask if the community can shed some light, and in turn enlighten some of us who are in the dark.
Please correct me as I am sure there are some flaws in my knowledge here.
1. Manila / Sense 2.5 has been released officially, but only for the HD2 / Leo? And as such will only be released for this device.
leading to 2. therefore, the TP2 will never have *official* support for Manila 2.5 and it's lovely widget home / full-screen weather home screens
leading to 3. The Leo has no need for landscape support for all it's stuff because it doesn't have a keyboard?
leading to 4. I can discern that Manila 2.5 has added features such as Tiwtter integration and what has really piqued my interest, this "footprint" lark.
leading to 5. I am confused about Manila. It's obviously the program the runs the fancy TF3D interface jibbery-joo, but in some places I get the impression that it's heavily integrated into the windows ROM and so must come already baked in, and in other places It seems like it could almost be a cab file, ready for install?
leading to 6. does anyone know if HTC plans to give us poor TP2 users a widgetized home screen?
leading to 7. In some screen shots I have seen both the widgetised home screen, weather animations and footprint screen in use on what otherwise appears as Manila 2.1, especially the footprints things. Is this a seperate, installable module?
If it is possible to install the components (like footprints) or Manila 2.5 seperately, is there anyone offering them up, can't find them myself?
Many thanks for listening, it's all getting rather confusing.
Landscape support
Go to the aplications side of the thread. Theres apost called "Project Pulse"
Its a mod of 2.5 that supports landscape in all tabs but is still in early form with a few bugs. The developer is working on the bugs and will continue to update it. Its deffinatly worth looking at if you want to see landscape support for 2.5
geejayoh said:
Research for me has turned up somewhat conflicting results, so I ask if the community can shed some light, and in turn enlighten some of us who are in the dark.
Please correct me as I am sure there are some flaws in my knowledge here.
1. Manila / Sense 2.5 has been released officially, but only for the HD2 / Leo? And as such will only be released for this device.
leading to 2. therefore, the TP2 will never have *official* support for Manila 2.5 and it's lovely widget home / full-screen weather home screens
leading to 3. The Leo has no need for landscape support for all it's stuff because it doesn't have a keyboard?
leading to 4. I can discern that Manila 2.5 has added features such as Tiwtter integration and what has really piqued my interest, this "footprint" lark.
leading to 5. I am confused about Manila. It's obviously the program the runs the fancy TF3D interface jibbery-joo, but in some places I get the impression that it's heavily integrated into the windows ROM and so must come already baked in, and in other places It seems like it could almost be a cab file, ready for install?
leading to 6. does anyone know if HTC plans to give us poor TP2 users a widgetized home screen?
leading to 7. In some screen shots I have seen both the widgetised home screen, weather animations and footprint screen in use on what otherwise appears as Manila 2.1, especially the footprints things. Is this a seperate, installable module?
If it is possible to install the components (like footprints) or Manila 2.5 seperately, is there anyone offering them up, can't find them myself?
Many thanks for listening, it's all getting rather confusing.
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well friend this doesn't need to be in the rom section but ill see what i can do with your questions.
1. yep it has been made for the htc touch hd 2 but i am guessing it will be made for future devices and touchflo 3d will be gone for good kinda of like what happend between touch flo 2d when 3d came out.
2. it is very doubtful that the touch pro 2 will get an upgrade like 90% chance of no.
3. Yea pretty much why they didn't just make a landscape now is beyond me i know they will eventually maybe if that rumor about the touch hd pro comes out or something.
4 Yea 2.5 has twitter app which really is just alright i would rather use twikini. And footprints has been out for awhile on touch flo 2d.
5.Its kinda of both in a sense there are plenty of cabs for touch flo 3d but it is built in by htc as a more or less skin such as spb mobile shell.
6. Very doubtful htc loves moving forward with things.
7.If you could show us a pic i might be able to answer that but someone would have to port footprints to 2.1 and i really doubt thats gonna happend any time soon.
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well friend this doesn't need to be in the rom section but ill see what i can do with your questions.
1. yep it has been made for the htc touch hd 2 but i am guessing it will be made for future devices and touchflo 3d will be gone for good kinda of like what happend between touch flo 2d when 3d came out.
2. it is very doubtful that the touch pro 2 will get an upgrade like 90% chance of no.
3. Yea pretty much why they didn't just make a landscape now is beyond me i know they will eventually maybe if that rumor about the touch hd pro comes out or something.
4 Yea 2.5 has twitter app which really is just alright i would rather use twikini. And footprints has been out for awhile on touch flo 2d.
5.Its kinda of both in a sense there are plenty of cabs for touch flo 3d but it is built in by htc as a more or less skin such as spb mobile shell.
6. Very doubtful htc loves moving forward with things.
7.If you could show us a pic i might be able to answer that but someone would have to port footprints to 2.1 and i really doubt thats gonna happend any time soon.
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Thanks for your answers man.
You're right it shouldn't be in the ROM section. But I kind of ummed and aarrred about it, and as you said yourself, it's a mixed bag whether manila is cooked in or not. Haha.
But very informative and I appreciate the time your took to reply. Kind of gives a good indication.
I was trying to install sense 2.5 in my TP2 until now ! thanks for posting this
geejayoh said:
Research for me has turned up somewhat conflicting results, so I ask if the community can shed some light, and in turn enlighten some of us who are in the dark.
Please correct me as I am sure there are some flaws in my knowledge here.
1. Manila / Sense 2.5 has been released officially, but only for the HD2 / Leo? And as such will only be released for this device.
leading to 2. therefore, the TP2 will never have *official* support for Manila 2.5 and it's lovely widget home / full-screen weather home screens
leading to 3. The Leo has no need for landscape support for all it's stuff because it doesn't have a keyboard?
leading to 4. I can discern that Manila 2.5 has added features such as Tiwtter integration and what has really piqued my interest, this "footprint" lark.
leading to 5. I am confused about Manila. It's obviously the program the runs the fancy TF3D interface jibbery-joo, but in some places I get the impression that it's heavily integrated into the windows ROM and so must come already baked in, and in other places It seems like it could almost be a cab file, ready for install?
leading to 6. does anyone know if HTC plans to give us poor TP2 users a widgetized home screen?
leading to 7. In some screen shots I have seen both the widgetised home screen, weather animations and footprint screen in use on what otherwise appears as Manila 2.1, especially the footprints things. Is this a seperate, installable module?
If it is possible to install the components (like footprints) or Manila 2.5 seperately, is there anyone offering them up, can't find them myself?
Many thanks for listening, it's all getting rather confusing.
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I was trying to install sense 2.5 in my TP2 until now ! thanks for posting this
i wanted so much a good rom with 2.5 for my tp2.. what i wanted was a french version of the fusion rom, but as we know, attomang seems to have vanished because of some scamming business he tried...
however here's what i think about the OFFICIAL future of sense 2.5 in landscape : pocket now showed us some leaked pictures of upcoming htc models coming in 2010 (based on some xda informations), and it comes out that there's a tp2-like device coming out.. so if it isn't an android based device, i think we can hope that it will come with 2.5 (and that we can base our future roms on the one that will be provided with it)
---> look at thje third one called "TERA"
http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/hot-three-new-htc-windows-mobile-phones-for-2010
(sorry if me english bad.. me native language french xD)
EDIT / for /7/ "home creen animated...".. it is present in the official 6.5 upgrade (so it's a winmo6.5 with sense 2.1) -- animated weather is on with the default wallpaper (or you can say when no wallpaper is chosen, or set for the homecreen)