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[Q] Got new Touch HD - Now what?

Hello to all,
I took the plunge today and despite being very very tempted at getting myself an iphone 3g I decided to get myself a Touch HD. Been spending a few days reading about the Touch HD and it sounds great. Must say I love the look and feel of it, although it's a little on the wide side for my hand.
This is my first WinMo ever and I'm very lost at what to do. I like to tweak and around a mess with my windows installation on my pc, but I just don't know where to start with the Touch HD.
It may sound kind of stupid, but I decided that what's probably best for me is to start this thread (of course after having done a search to see that no other similar thread already exist) and to ask you guys to share some of the things that you first did to your Touch HD when you got it. ie. What are the first few things to do to improve/enhance the experience with the phone.
Thank you all in advance and looking forward to your replies.
PS. English isn't my first language so I apologize if I'm being unclear or if I'm being repetitive.

Grats on the purchase. Where did you buy it from?
That's some fine English for it not being your first language.

Hi, I'm in the same boat as you, although I've had my HD for a few days now. I'm just getting to grips with it, and am now at the point where I feel like I should play around with ROMs. Haven't a clue where to start though, but have had a good read of the wiki.
Good luck with it, and enjoy it.

Welcome to HD world !
Here is my list of applications: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3117017&highlight=secondtoday#post3117017
As a long-term PocketBreeze user (I assume you know about Today Plugins?) I found the restriction of TF3D to be irritating. If you don't know, TF3D will not allow any other today plugins to run.
But, SecondToday is great - this gives you a second today screen on which you can run any number of plugins.
Also, for me a big help, is AEB+ for mapping buttons.
I also have lots of tweaks to the TF3D setup - see the app list in the thread above.
Good luck and enjoy !

Take a look at the apps and themes forum.
That's a good place to start at...

EthanX said:
Take a look at the apps and themes forum.
That's a good place to start at...
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And, of course, check out the wiki pages: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone there's loads of tips ...
Also, the software pages: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Software

shoulda went with the iphone.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/software-1-dnlds.html
instead of giving you a list, heres a site you can dl free programs, just dl the cab file then put it on your phone using usb connection to your pc then run the cab on your phone from whatever folder you put it in

Welcome.... here is my list of apps...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=462718

Got my Touch HD ~a week ago, my second Win Mo device.
First I would recommend installing a different rom, I went with Duttys 1.7 rom, my HD got a nice performance boost, the Wiki here explains how to do this.
After that I configured all the settings to my liking.
Installed all HTC Fixes.
Then I browsed the Themes and software forum for the blackstone, after awhile I have these installed on my HD:
- HD Tweak (a must have with the HD imo, customize the HD even further and access lots of other tweaks)
- Advanced Configuration Tool 3.2 (pretty much the same as above^)
- Diamond D3D driver (speed up the graphics for the HD)
- Diamond Saber (fun wnb-a-jedi lightsaber software)
- FInixNOverBatteryIcon (Replace the original battery icon with a color changing one and showing the load %)
- Gyrator 2 (rotate the screen when you rotate your HD)
- IPC Black Dialer (black phone application theme)
- IPC black Calculator (black calc theme)
- MyLostBlog MyStopWatch (great stopwatch software)
- Navigon 7 (GPS navigation)
- Tnyynt SD TuneUP (make the HD faster, can't remember how though )
- TouchResponse (vibrates the HD everytime you touch the screen, very useful)
- Weather Database Editor (add your own city to the weather tab)
+ some theme customization and such
Noticed also some great apps in other posts here, thanks for the tips

Wow this forum is certainly very active and helpful.
Thank you guys so much, I'm going to start working on my HD later tonight after I finish work (yeah it's a Sunday and I still have to work )
@ModernMuseum I'm from Lao PDR and I bought it here in Laos, though from the looks of it I think the phone is actually from Italy or something since the user manual is in Italian (or so it seems) and no English manual at all.
PS. any further comments/suggestions/sharing of experience are still welcome

thatg said:
shoulda went with the iphone.
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only morons go for the iphone.

Viba said:
I would recommend installing a different rom, I went with Duttys 1.7 rom, my HD got a nice performance boost, the Wiki here explains how to do this.
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Please can you give me the link for wiki on how to install duttys 1.7 rom? Will I lose everything that's installed on my HTC HD if I install a new rom?
Also, do you only ever install 1 rom at a time, or can you have more than one? Sorry if that's a really stupid question...
Thank you.

h31p said:
Please can you give me the link for wiki on how to install duttys 1.7 rom? Will I lose everything that's installed on my HTC HD if I install a new rom?
Also, do you only ever install 1 rom at a time, or can you have more than one? Sorry if that's a really stupid question...
Thank you.
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Yes you will lose all your data, only 1 rom can be installed at a time.
These should get you going:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=461228
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Flash1
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_BLackstone_Flash2
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Flash3

Check out the list of ROMs available if you want something other than Dutty's ROM . There are many to choose from. Also before you do any modifications, install HSPL or USPL if you want to do any ROM flashing, since you can flash as many times as you want, but not have more than one ROM on.

[APP] PLAzmA Manila Rhodium VGA Comm Manager Skin (BETA 1)

Having recently installed XBmod Manila Rhodium VGA Port (here) i was annoyed that my comm manager skin was still the stock O2 blue skin
I search for ages to try and find someone how had made a black one, the closest i came was this which isnt black and this which had render issues and had the white left buttons, so it might not be perfect but i made one.
If anyone has any suggestions or the original Manila Rhodium VGA background on its own please send it and your suggestions over and i will see what i can do.
Also ive design this so it will just replace your existing skin and not change the existing options on your comm manager page like add the 3g button if you dont already have it.
PS ignore the background looking so crap in the screen shot, this is largely because of soti pocket controllers preview mode being a lower colour base.
MIRROR Standard: http://rapidshare.com/files/213416974/PLAzmA_Rhodium_VGA_Comm_Manager.cab.html
UPDATE: (3G)
I have also created, a version which will enable a 3G option in comm manager, personally i dont use 3G so i didnt bother writing it in but im sure some people will want to have it
MIRROR 3G: http://rapidshare.com/files/213485222/PLAzmA_Rhodium_VGA_Comm_Manager_3G.cab.html

Issue: after installing this onto my device the background of the Comm Manager is still white, along with white font color and dark icons as in your screenshot.
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Have you done a soft reset ??
Also what phone and rom are you running it on?
As far as i can see from looking at other skin cabs the background files are always called P_BG.png and L_BG.png and are not set by a reg key and called by comm manger program directly.
Please post problems / answers to the comm manager thread instead of xbmod's thread as its a bit off topic thanks.
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ROM udK Syrius Topaz R2 + XBmod Manila Rhodium (see sign).
Yes, I did soft reset my device.

doh
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ROM udK Syrius Topaz R2 + XBmod Manila Rhodium (see sign).
Yes, I did soft reset my device.
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sorry chap missed that, umm strange, do you have reg editor ?? could you try importing the attached reg file and then soft reset

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sorry chap missed that, umm strange, do you have reg editor ?? could you try importing the attached reg file and then soft reset
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"CommManagerUIStyle" was set to 4 instead of 2 as in your provided fix.reg. I'm waiting for my device to startup as I type.
Btw, can you recommend a good register editor for VGA devices? Used PHM, but wasn't able to import your reg file.
EDIT: yepp, by changing that value from 4 to 2 I'm able to view the black background. Thank you =)!

sibbor said:
"CommManagerUIStyle" was set to 4 instead of 2 as in your provided fix.reg. I'm waiting for my device to startup as I type.
Btw, can you recommend a good register editor for VGA devices? Used PHM, but wasn't able to import your reg file.
EDIT: yepp, by changing that value from 4 to 2 I'm able to view the black background. Thank you =)!
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No worries umm personally i use soti pocket controller however i think the reg files for that and phm are incompatible, oh well ive included the fix into the cab file and re-uploaded to the first thread

the download link for the cab is dead.

iceblade911 said:
the download link for the cab is dead.
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Works for me, but posted a mirror anyway.

can you make one for wvga blackstone please?

djcedric said:
can you make one for wvga blackstone please?
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Sure if you can find me any other comm manager cab thats wvga i will strip it apart and rebuild it to support the Rhodium skin, i looked and havnt found one yet.
Alternativly if you can extract me the following files from your windows folder:
Function_Bluetooth.png
L_BG.png
P_BG.png
and give me a registry export of :
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\CommManager
and all sub keys zip/rar them and send them over, i can then rebuild back into a cab, i need the registry key as ive not got a blackstone and need to double check the reg values

djcedric said:
can you make one for wvga blackstone please?
edit:works on wvga,have tryed it
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Nice one i dont suppose you can post me a screen shot of what it looks lik on wvga, dont worry if you cant just intrested.

Cab didnt work
Hi ,
Tried to install the cab but fails immediatly with when i just pressed the cab file.
My phone : Raphael unbranded Netherlands
ROM: ROMeOS 1.90.1
Radio 1.12.25.19
Only thing that I could imagine is my other commanager from nadavi that adds the 3 g is corrupted with this version.

hivesnl said:
Hi ,
Tried to install the cab but fails immediatly with when i just pressed the cab file.
My phone : Raphael unbranded Netherlands
ROM: ROMeOS 1.90.1
Radio 1.12.25.19
Only thing that I could imagine is my other commanager from nadavi that adds the 3 g is corrupted with this version.
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I would make sure your comm manager isnt running in memory when you install, ive actually made the pack so it has a 3g and ir option if you have already modded to get 3g or ir to appear on the comm manager.
However if you want to uninstall nadavi version, ive made a 3g version especially for you see the main thread for download.

I'm sorry, but I can't seem to actually use my Comm-Manager since I installed yours. The style is awesome for sure, but it's not very usable at the moment:
Clicking on an item highlights the current item, but does nothing; no toggling of Bluetooth or WiFi...
Clicking on the ON/OFF button for a function doesn't function either... same as above
In Rhodium Manila when I press the title for WiFi or Bluetooth the device vibrates and I'm taken to scanning mode (scan for AP's or BT devices)... this functionality is also gone.
EDIT: and I can't seem to uninstall it either. Typical

Uninstall
Not sure whats going on there, try and re-install over the top, it will tell you old version will need to be removed, say yes and then cancel the install when it comes to reinstall.
what rom are you running ?
Actually ive just noticed that since ive install XBmod latest manila pack im also unable to uninstall anything i put on, this it maybe a big in his pack, only noticed after i install wififofum today and its not on the list either.

plazma247 said:
Not sure whats going on there, try and re-install over the top, it will tell you old version will need to be removed, say yes and then cancel the install when it comes to reinstall.
what rom are you running ?
Actually ive just noticed that since ive install XBmod latest manila pack im also unable to uninstall anything i put on, this it maybe a big in his pack, only noticed after i install wififofum today and its not on the list either.
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udK's ROM (see sign)... Yeah, must be XBmod's Manila... can't seem to uninstall any other app I've installed either. Damn, but oh well =)
So you're using XBmod's Manila and are able to use all the functionality within the CommManger? I suppose the regkeys are within the CAB file? Otherwise, is the values in fix.reg those you're using?

Idea
sibbor said:
udK's ROM (see sign)... Yeah, must be XBmod's Manila... can't seem to uninstall any other app I've installed either. Damn, but oh well =)
So you're using XBmod's Manila and are able to use all the functionality within the CommManger? I suppose the regkeys are within the CAB file? Otherwise, is the values in fix.reg those you're using?
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Yeah its working fine on my rom and the cab now includes whats in fix.reg which basically sets the comm manager mode to the right them to use a background wallpaper.
If you try and re-install over the top, it will say you have to remove before it can reinstall, allow i to remove, then cancel the new installation. soft reset and your old comm manager skin is back.
if you can then give me an export of :
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\CommManager
i can look into it and see what the problem is, potentially i can rebuild you your own cab if theres something particular with your rom.

sibbor said:
I'm sorry, but I can't seem to actually use my Comm-Manager since I installed yours. The style is awesome for sure, but it's not very usable at the moment:
Clicking on an item highlights the current item, but does nothing; no toggling of Bluetooth or WiFi...
Clicking on the ON/OFF button for a function doesn't function either... same as above
In Rhodium Manila when I press the title for WiFi or Bluetooth the device vibrates and I'm taken to scanning mode (scan for AP's or BT devices)... this functionality is also gone.
EDIT: and I can't seem to uninstall it either. Typical
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Same here - Using Cloudy's v1.1 ROM.

halpmf said:
Same here - Using Cloudy's v1.1 ROM.
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That's exactly what happens to me with the ROM in sign. Will update ROM soon, so I can report back.

worked great for me. thanx again plazma, cant wait to see what you come up with next! still lovin the calculator!!

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I think your getting the green bars more than once is because your rom must use more than one colour for transparency on my dev phone only #000000 (true black) is used for transpency, so the comm manager is slightly off black to work around this, work fine on mine and for others aparently. So i can only assume the people having problems with their roms is due to the above.. not sure how to fix it but will look into it.
redd214 said:
worked great for me. thanx again plazma, cant wait to see what you come up with next! still lovin the calculator!!
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Well after the black calculator ive started and nearly completed a black dialer skin to match the calculator... ive got a small bug on landscape but might post it later this week if i cant figure out how to get around it.
Until then heres a screen shot

Touch Flo v.3.0 available on HD?

Simple question.
I've read about the new features of the 3rd version of Touch Flo (on the upcoming HTC Touch Pro 2 and Diamond 2) and they are quite interesting.
I just wondered whether by any chance this new version could be installed on the HTC HD (once it's out of course)
Thx

there are already tons of custom roms with this new tf3d

Oh! I wasn't aware of that... have an example so I can test it?

gauthierserkyn said:
Oh! I wasn't aware of that... have an example so I can test it?
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Duttys Roms, Laurentius Roms,...

gauthierserkyn said:
Oh! I wasn't aware of that... have an example so I can test it?
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Think the list is endless. Go to ROM's development forum and seach. I'm currently using Duttys 2.5 Xtreme, though Laurentius & Davideuck are just as commonly used

crashDebug said:
there are already tons of custom roms with this new tf3d
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hi...is there any way of getting new touch flo 3 without need of flashing ur phone? any chance of someone making an instalation .cab?

marasp said:
hi...is there any way of getting new touch flo 3 without need of flashing ur phone? any chance of someone making an instalation .cab?
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Go to the "Themes, Applications and Software" and you will found you cab's

excuse me for being a nub but what are the benefits of flashing vs cab install

nowhere to be seen
Elim said:
Go to the "Themes, Applications and Software" and you will found you cab's
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well... i always do my home work before posting, that is why i did ask question...i could not find any cab, and believe me i spent hours looking throughout our gigantic forum...
if u know location where such cab is hiding from my eyes please share it with us.

There is no "cab" install and there never will be.
This isn't just an application you install on your phone - it's a complete system overhaul, with new TF3D, with all new and / or updated system applications: phone, calendar, contacts, call history, calculator, browser etc.
Let me illustrate however the difference between the stock ROM and the custom cooked ROM's available here on XDA. It's like going from Skoda to latest Ferrari.
That means you'll get a lot of great looking stuff, many cool applications already included, everything will be as new as possible, you'll be running at MUCH faster speed, but you also have to accept that you'll "burn more gas" - battery life may take a small impact.
Is it worth it? Well, it's like you bought a new device, so - yes.

bigv1 said:
excuse me for being a nub but what are the benefits of flashing vs cab install
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If you flash a ROM that already includes the new manila it will probably be alot smoother because the ROM will be optimized and tweaked for it! If you install it over the old Manila it probably won't give you the best experience... Also, the newer ROMs not only include the new Manila, but also things like finger-friendly menus!

really is that true???
Rozenthal said:
There is no "cab" install and there never will be.
This isn't just an application you install on your phone - it's a complete system overhaul, with new TF3D, with all new and / or updated system applications: phone, calendar, contacts, call history, calculator, browser etc.
Let me illustrate however the difference between the stock ROM and the custom cooked ROM's available here on XDA. It's like going from Skoda to latest Ferrari.
That means you'll get a lot of great looking stuff, many cool applications already included, everything will be as new as possible, you'll be running at MUCH faster speed, but you also have to accept that you'll "burn more gas" - battery life may take a small impact.
Is it worth it? Well, it's like you bought a new device, so - yes.
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is that really..... so could u explain to us what that is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493531 ..... i think it is possible.... manila is at the end, today screen replacement like the ones of SPB and others.... of course its complicated and incorporated into windows folder but as u can see impossible is nothing here ....
regards

marasp said:
well... i always do my home work before posting, that is why i did ask question...i could not find any cab, and believe me i spent hours looking throughout our gigantic forum...
if u know location where such cab is hiding from my eyes please share it with us.
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I'm pretty new to all this as well and had a lot of difficulty figuring it out! What I think happens is this: The ROM is a bit like the BIOS so you can't modify it within WM6.1. Also, the original ROMs are protected so you can't replace them with an unofficial version (they are signed).
To get around this, you can use something like Hard SPL (which overwrites the existing ROM) or USPL (which works around it).
I finally went with USPL2.5 and Dutty's extreme ROM v2.6.
Incidentally, I'm not really noticing much of a speed improvement... Especially with the music player which now takes a second to load up... Am I meant to?

[Files requested] Manila 2.5 bluetooth headset control + HTC Audio

I have a pair of bluetooth headphones by Sony (DR-BT21G) with media controls (AVRCP). This has always worked perfectly with the HTC Audio Manager throughout many ROMS (the default and Dutty's) but I upgraded to WM6.5 this weekend and it no longer works. Now, any time I try to use the controls, Windows Media Player fires up and takes over. Is there any way to change this or to manually set this back to the HTC Audio Manager? Listening to music is probably what I do most with my HD so this is probably reason enough for me to go back to a different ROM if I can't figure this out.
I've searched like crazy and it seems to happen to the WM6.5 Energy ROMs too, so it must be a general WM6.5/Manilla problem. So far, I've tried looking through all the settings in HD Tweak and Advanced Config, as well as changing the 0 and 1 keys in HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Rai\:WMPLAYER to point to AudioManager_Eng.exe, but none of that worked.
Does anyone have any other ideas?
Edit: Slowly, it seems to be becoming clearer that the Bluetooth Driver might be (part of) the solution. Any assistance in getting different versions of the BTHCI.DLL file or more insight would be great! If you have a Manila 2.5 ROM with working bluetooth control, please take a minute to share your driver with us!

I have exactly the same problem and I've posted about it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566157&highlight=AVRCP

elammertsma said:
I have a pair of bluetooth headphones by Sony (DR-BT21G) with media controls. This has always worked perfectly with the HTC Audio Manager throughout many ROMS (the default and Dutty's) but I upgraded to WM6.5 this weekend and it no longer works. Now, any time I try to use the controls, Windows Media Player fires up and takes over. Is there any way to change this or to manually set this back to the HTC Audio Manager? Listening to music is probably what I do most with my HD so this is probably reason enough for me to go back to a different ROM if I can't figure this out.
I've searched like crazy and it seems to happen to the WM6.5 Energy ROMs too, so it must be a general WM6.5/Manilla problem. So far, I've tried looking through all the settings in HD Tweak and Advanced Config, as well as changing the 0 and 1 keys in HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Rai\:WMPLAYER to point to AudioManager_Eng.exe, but none of that worked.
Does anyone have any other ideas?
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Same here with Dutty R5.
A fix would be great.

I worked pretty hard at trying to find a solution but to no avail. I found that there's a key in the registry that refers to a bluetooth plugin for WMP, but deleting it had no effect and I don't think there's a simple way to get rid of the actual plugin. Doing so also still doesn't guarantee that AudioManager will take over. Maybe if someone takes the time to try swapping out files between (for example) Dutty's WM6.1 v4.3 and Dutty's WM6.5 Leo R5, it might work. Particularly, swapping out AudioManager_Eng.exe and all WMP files and registry settings might work. Just an idea! I'd do it myself, but considering crazy work hours, my need for a working phone and problems I've been having with 6.5 it will be a while before I can do more on this.
I was also using Dutty's Leo R5 but due to major stability issues which seemed to be primarily related to importing contacts and texts (through either PIM or "My Phone"). I'll miss the twitter tab and all the neat features of the new manila and WM6.5 improvements but for now Dutty's v4.3 Final is just so much faster, more reliable and doesn't have the bluetooth problem.
Unless some smart guy figures this one out, I think we can best just hope for it to be resolved in a future rom with a fix in the new Manila.

The question for me is: Is this problem on all 6.5 ROMs??? I thought I had tried a 6.5 ROM before without this issue... but I might be wrong...
Am I right in assuming you returned to Dutty's 6.1 ROM? Because then I would flash a 6.5 ROM and we could test replacing files: You upload them here and I try replacing them on my Blackstone!

Update: I just flashed PhamQuang's V67 (a 6.5 ROM with Manila 2.1) - and guess what: My BT-headset controls the TF3D music player!
So maybe this is not a 6.1 vs. 6.5 problem, but rather a Manila 2.1 vs. 2.5 problem? Or it just depends on what ROM you are using and if the cook has done his magic correctly?

Great news! I'm glad you have it working and it narrows the problem down a bit.
So it seems that for now, bluetooth music lovers should steer clear of M2.5. I'd think it's a Manila 2.5 problem considering it works on all Manila 2.1 versions I've tried so far and on PhamQuang's V67 ROM with WM6.5 that you're using. I still wonder if swapping files between Manila 2.1 and 2.5 would be possible, but after using WM6.1 and Manila 2.1 for a day I'm hooked on the speed and won't be going back to Manila 2.5 until some major speed improvements have been made. (Or am I mistaken and is WM6.5 the laggy culprit?)
Considering you have your headset working with PhamQuang's V67 and it runs WM6.5, I'd like to wander off topic a bit and ask how you like that one? Has it been fast and stable so far? I've been pretty happy and faithful to Dutty's work but if there's something better out there (with working bluetooth to HTC's AM) I'm definitely game! I especially miss the smoother kinetic scrolling of WM6.5 and the wonderful Twitter tab in Manila 2.5. I guess I'll just have to be patient for that last one considering it seems you can't have everything.

Fix. thx to Gooru from xda-developers.info

Awesome! Thanks NewFolk! I'm glad there's a solution and hopefully it will help anyone who's searching for it. I can't test whether it works on Dutty's Leo R5 at the moment but I'll take your word for it
At least this is one less reason to avoid WM6.5 + M2.5!

elammertsma said:
Considering you have your headset working with PhamQuang's V67 and it runs WM6.5, I'd like to wander off topic a bit and ask how you like that one? Has it been fast and stable so far? I've been pretty happy and faithful to Dutty's work but if there's something better out there (with working bluetooth to HTC's AM) I'm definitely game! I especially miss the smoother kinetic scrolling of WM6.5 and the wonderful Twitter tab in Manila 2.5. I guess I'll just have to be patient for that last one considering it seems you can't have everything.
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PhamQuang's ROMs aren't the fastest ones out there, which is why I'll switch to a different 6.5 ROM or back to Topix (the best 6.1 ROM I've tried) as soon as I get my LCD replacement (I managed to break my LCD screen while attempting to exchange the touchscreen... )
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Fix. thx to Gooru from xda-developers.info
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Awesome! Thank you! Hopefully this fix enables every WM+Manila combination!
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Awesome! Thanks NewFolk! I'm glad there's a solution and hopefully it will help anyone who's searching for it. I can't test whether it works on Dutty's Leo R5 at the moment but I'll take your word for it
At least this is one less reason to avoid WM6.5 + M2.5!
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If you get around to trying a 6.5+2.5 ROM, please post some feedback!

NewFolk said:
Fix. thx to Gooru from xda-developers.info
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Didn't work for me on Miri's V10, still launching WMP. Still looking for a solution.

Wow, sorry to hear about your screen, MAMeingast. I wouldn't dare attempt that with my dear HD, although I do wish it had a capacitive screen. I haven't touched my stylus in months.
If I can get Sashimi to do decent backups and automated installs, I might be able to experiment with ROMs more freely, but for now XML provisioning and other settings restorations don't seem to work well and reflashing and configuring still takes a few hours each time. I might try a full backup of my current setup this weekend and test a few Manila 2.5 ROMs. Maybe I can pinpoint what the differences are between the working and non-working BT configurations are and make a cab to fix it. Unfortunately, I'm not aware of a method to monitor file or registry key access so I can't see what's active during BT headset pairing. In other words, getting that together will have to be a pretty labor intensive process.
The cab file simply contains a version of the BTHCI.dll driver file. I haven't been able to find Gooru's original post (using Google translate considering the site's all Russian), so I don't know which ROM(s) the cab file is meant for, where the file comes from or which build of WM it is included in. A quick search turned up this post by Da_G from way back in May, noting that the 216xx WM6.5 build comes with a BTHCI.dll version that isn't bound to WMP. How the binding is done isn't clear to me, but it's possible that the currently running media player (usually AudioManager_Eng.exe) would accept the input without extra configuration. If people can grab that version (see below) and post results here (or any other versions for that matter... it can't hurt to try more!), we could see if it fixes the problem. It's starting to look like that file is indeed the culprit, so good news there!
Thinking out loud: If it turns out to be more than just the driver, I might try replacing the dll on Dutty's Leo R5 first, followed by others until I find a Manila 2.5 that the cab file fixes. If that works, I can dump the file system and registry before the fix, and the file system and registry of other uncabbed ROMs to see if a general fix can be made and hopefully pass that along to Dutty and the other cooks to add to future releases. If anyone is running a Manila 2.5, please try installing the cab and posting your results. It would be additionally helpful to let us know which version (or date and size) your original BTHCI.dll is.
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Didn't work for me on Miri's V10, still launching WMP. Still looking for a solution.
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I'm sorry to hear that. Naturally, I hoped someone had come up with a general fix, but we'll keep looking. I changed the topic title back from [Solved] considering it didn't work for you. If you find out more, let us know! Maybe you can help with the dll questions, considering you're running a 2.5 ROM.
Edit: Found a download of the proposed older working BTHCI.dll! Try the cab from this post and let us know if it works for you: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3807872&postcount=114
It should be uninstallable, but I still recommend backing up your original. You can never be too careful, right?

neither #8, nor #12 can fix my problem, ROM udk Leo R3. still looking for solution...

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Wow, sorry to hear about your screen, MAMeingast. I wouldn't dare attempt that with my dear HD, although I do wish it had a capacitive screen. I haven't touched my stylus in months.
If I can get Sashimi to do decent backups and automated installs, I might be able to experiment with ROMs more freely, but for now XML provisioning and other settings restorations don't seem to work well and reflashing and configuring still takes a few hours each time. I might try a full backup of my current setup this weekend and test a few Manila 2.5 ROMs. Maybe I can pinpoint what the differences are between the working and non-working BT configurations are and make a cab to fix it. Unfortunately, I'm not aware of a method to monitor file or registry key access so I can't see what's active during BT headset pairing. In other words, getting that together will have to be a pretty labor intensive process.
The cab file simply contains a version of the BTHCI.dll driver file. I haven't been able to find Gooru's original post (using Google translate considering the site's all Russian), so I don't know which ROM(s) the cab file is meant for, where the file comes from or which build of WM it is included in. A quick search turned up this post by Da_G from way back in May, noting that the 216xx WM6.5 build comes with a BTHCI.dll version that isn't bound to WMP. How the binding is done isn't clear to me, but it's possible that the currently running media player (usually AudioManager_Eng.exe) would accept the input without extra configuration. If people can grab that version (see below) and post results here (or any other versions for that matter... it can't hurt to try more!), we could see if it fixes the problem. It's starting to look like that file is indeed the culprit, so good news there!
Thinking out loud: If it turns out to be more than just the driver, I might try replacing the dll on Dutty's Leo R5 first, followed by others until I find a Manila 2.5 that the cab file fixes. If that works, I can dump the file system and registry before the fix, and the file system and registry of other uncabbed ROMs to see if a general fix can be made and hopefully pass that along to Dutty and the other cooks to add to future releases. If anyone is running a Manila 2.5, please try installing the cab and posting your results. It would be additionally helpful to let us know which version (or date and size) your original BTHCI.dll is.
I'm sorry to hear that. Naturally, I hoped someone had come up with a general fix, but we'll keep looking. I changed the topic title back from [Solved] considering it didn't work for you. If you find out more, let us know! Maybe you can help with the dll questions, considering you're running a 2.5 ROM.
Edit: Found a download of the proposed older working BTHCI.dll! Try the cab from this post and let us know if it works for you: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3807872&postcount=114
It should be uninstallable, but I still recommend backing up your original. You can never be too careful, right?
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Hi elammertsma,
I've already tried the T-Back 6.5 BT Driver.cab, still launches WMP so I'm guessing there's more to this than just the version of BTHCI.dll. The BTHCI.dll included in Miri's V10 ROM is dated 01/10/09 16:31 (although that may be the date I installed the ROM, not sure) and is 63K in size. Hope this helps.

seems the bthci.dll is a rom file, and prevent copy? I try to copy the file from a rom which headset could interface with manila audiomanager, but fail - say the file in not allow to copy...

i-PDA2006 said:
seems the bthci.dll is a rom file, and prevent copy? I try to copy the file from a rom which headset could interface with manila audiomanager, but fail - say the file in not allow to copy...
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You'll need to use another file manager like Total Commander or Resco File Explorer to copy the BTHCI.dll file

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You'll need to use another file manager like Total Commander or Resco File Explorer to copy the BTHCI.dll file
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I'm using the Resco, but still same problem. Properties of the bthci.dll is checked for hide/ready/sys/rom. It can not be seen both in WM file explorer and Resco, but in Resco search for the name you can find it. I try to copy via Resco, it said copy fail...

mauriceheath said:
Hi elammertsma,
I've already tried the T-Back 6.5 BT Driver.cab, still launches WMP so I'm guessing there's more to this than just the version of BTHCI.dll. The BTHCI.dll included in Miri's V10 ROM is dated 01/10/09 16:31 (although that may be the date I installed the ROM, not sure) and is 63K in size. Hope this helps.
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For mine:
1. BTfix.cab, still activate WMP, and seems no change at all.
- I try WMP, my headset is still interface with it, works well.
- Manila audio - sound was transferred to headset but interface no.
- CorePlayer - sound was transferred to headset but interface no.
2. T-Back 6.5 BT Driver.cab, not activate the WMP any more, and others unchanged.
- I try WMP, need manually open WMP first, and my headset is still interface with it, works well.
- Manila audio - sound was transferred to headset but interface no.
- CorePlayer - sound was transferred to headset but interface no.

being a bluetoth headphones ower to i ued the htc audio player too. im using nrgz photon rom 11.10.09 manilla 2.1. the default launched audio player from headphones is media player. tried this fix it dont fix it. yes i know its for m.2.5 i was just hoping it would work.
guess i will have to make playlists there instead. i remember there being issues with Wmp it wouldnt recognise all my content. like eminem album i got from play.com. all my own cd rips are good though lol. i will post a fix if i find one. i got a cab. the for s2p which is called tback but all that does is the opposite and unlocks the htc audiomanager and reverts to WMP or s2p. ive looked at nitrogen but unable to find anyway to make headphones work.

My Observations on this
Now my observations on this is that it was not happening on NRG Leo release 14092009 (think it may have been the last Genisis version). We know that NRG's rom platform on 23016 is rock solid as he has stated that many times so I'm suspecting it must be something in the lastest M2.5 version 1919xxx or another package addition as it seems to be effecting all the current Roms running this version of the Leo Manilla. I'm really suspecting that it is something in the way M2.5 HTC audio player is interfacing with WMP but that is just my humble non technical opinion
Can't find if BT stack has been updated in all of this. Bit of a bugger as I have the same issue in the my current version 23092009 release and it is also in the 11102009 release. Hope NRG can take a look at this as I use my BT headset constantly or my bit helps in some small way in finding a solution. In the meantime I'm falling way back to 14092009 NRG Leo version.

manila flip clock bug !

Hi all !
I have and HD2 with windows mobile with dutty v23 rom and CHT 2.0.0 and when I use CHT the flip clock animation is very buggy as sometimes there is no scrolling but I got this situation :
as you can see the animation got buggy with the clock flipping "halfway".
in the picture only the "hour" got buggy and not the minutes because I haven't been able to capture it on time. Anyway this happens many times and I would like to solve this to have working animation, any suggest ?

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Hi all !
I have and HD2 with windows mobile with dutty v23 rom and CHT 2.0.0 and when I use CHT the flip clock animation is very buggy as sometimes there is no scrolling but I got this situation :
as you can see the animation got buggy with the clock flipping "halfway".
in the picture only the "hour" got buggy and not the minutes because I haven't been able to capture it on time. Anyway this happens many times and I would like to solve this to have working animation, any suggest ?
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Hola, I remember very well this picture Haven´t you also posted this SAME issue with your flip clock back in november in CHT Thread and you have been advised that this is NON CHT related but is directly linked to other customizations installed on your device. Please stop flaming or blaming CHT for this

well actually I reposted this becuase I haven't solved the problem and I actually had kind of a conversion with who substain that this wasn't related to cht, anyway I had tried to use my phone just after flesh with nothing installed expet for cookie and the problem was still there, I have also pass my cht configuration file to the hd2 of a friends ( that was just been fleshed so nothing installed on it ) and I got the same result.
Honeslty I don't know if this is related to my configuration in cookie editor or if it's a bug inside cookie home tab, anyway it's related with one of those. Also don't misunderstand me, cht is one of the greater program for windows mobile, I don't want to flame it, I'm just tring to figure it out how to solve this bug...

i use cht in all the dutty rom, from v15 to v25 without problems
i have changed the taskbar with a my personalized taskbar
i change the clock and other setting and all work correctly

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@light_n_roses:
only one question: why you are the only one who has this strange issues. Hundreds of users are working without this issue. Also when there are three or ten users with the same issue, everytime when we advise to install it fresh with a rom where CHT is not cocked in, the system is running. And when you are so tired about all this. Why you use allways CHT?
So i repeat my question :
You can send me a text file where you have written down what you have installed in which way and which other things are installed on which rom from which cook on which phone, step by step. I will do the same test. When i have the same issues i will solve this issue. When i have no issues then i can't help you but i have done my work. So send me all files please, or upload it to megaupload or i will give you a link to my dropbox. Where is the problem for you?
You ask for help, when we say please check this or this, you start to blame CHT, but when we ask you to help us, so as here in this moment, you do nothing only talking. To help you with your issue to find a way out of this we need at 1st your help. PM me when you need the link to upload the files, otherwise please stop to blame CHT.
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the fact that a lot of people do not have this problem I think is related to 2 facts : first the vast major of people that use cht, hard customize their home page while I use it to restore original htc look, indeed I believe that this bug comes out when I modified the quicklinks page number on 3x3 as when I tried my customization files on the hd2 of my frieds the bug cames out and he said me that this doesn't happen when 4x4 pages was on.
The second fact is the option that enable "original flip clock animation" inside cookie editor.
And BTW:
the screenshot isn't from the original dutty rom. It is modded with a taskbar cab .
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like I said you just talk aganst me without know nothing, I have already pointed out that I do not use that taskbar anymore and that I have tried to use cookie home tab after a flesh and with NO PROGRAM INSTALLED EXPEPT FOR COOKIE HOME TAB AND COOKIE EDITOR and the bug was there, so what I have installed or not is not relevant !!