For instance, i have haykuros hero and ive run a couple of optimization scripts and ive run one of them twice. If i reflash and wipe will it be like starting over? Or will the effects of the scripts remain after wipe and flash? thanks
it's basically a factory reset.
no data will be on it aside from the OS of course.
it will be like it was just shipped to you.
layman terms no?
mrcrs said:
it's basically a factory reset.
no data will be on it aside from the OS of course.
it will be like it was just shipped to you.
layman terms no?
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I think i get it, thanks,
So if i have ext3 set up will it be affected, and im assuming the new kernel (for H's hero/rosie) i implemented will be affected as well, and how about the dangerous new haykuro spl i was able to flash? thanks again
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I think i get it, thanks,
So if i have ext3 set up will it be affected, and im assuming the new kernel (for H's hero/rosie) i implemented will be affected as well, and how about the dangerous new haykuro spl i was able to flash? thanks again
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a wipe will not affect your sdcard.
tho a wipe might and/or will affect the symlinks to your sdcard.
that you have to redo.
i have H's SPL.
make sure you have the newest radio flashed first and for more "safeness" make sure that your current bootloader says "PVT" on it already.
if you do then you're gravy.
So a alt+w wipe removes root?
Bottom line...
When you alt-w it's kind of like reflashing the ROM you were using.
It will leave whatever is on your sdcard alone, but will usually revert any changes you've made to the phone beyond what came with the ROM.
This includes sms, numbers that weren't synced, icons on the desktop, wallpaper changes, apps that aren't on the sd etc...
It will not remove root.
It will not affect the ext/ext3 partition. But, as mentioned, it will erase symlinks that were created AFTER the ROM was flashed (if that's the method you use) but if the ROM included them, it probably won't affect that either.
Basically, assume any file changes that were made on the phones internal memory after the flash will be reverted with an alt-w.
If you have CM v3.4 then you will have the symlinks back up right away
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I have the cyanogens 4.0.4 rom installed on my G1, and i was wondering, if I install the cyanogen updater and decide to update it, will my apps, widget homescreen positions, and settings get erased?
I know it's a newb questions but trust me I search the forums and nobody answers that, which leads me to believe that everything stay in tact.
I just want to know this, because with donut released today, I want to know how to update if and when cyanogen throws out another rom.
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I have the cyanogens 4.0.4 rom installed on my G1, and i was wondering, if I install the cyanogen updater and decide to update it, will my apps, widget homescreen positions, and settings get erased?
I know it's a newb questions but trust me I search the forums and nobody answers that, which leads me to believe that everything stay in tact.
I just want to know this, because with donut released today, I want to know how to update if and when cyanogen throws out another rom.
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CM Updater does not wipe, it just installs. Most likely you won't need a wipe ifyou go from one CM rom to another BUT just incase it doesn't load after say 30 mins, then you may need to wipe and reinstall. Goodluck.
Thanks for the clarification. In case I do have to wipe and clean install, is there any app that can save my phone as it is, with all the apps installed my home screen customized with icons, and all the settings intact?
I've read about some apps that do this put I think that just save the apps and not the phone state.
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CM Updater does not wipe, it just installs. Most likely you won't need a wipe ifyou go from one CM rom to another BUT just incase it doesn't load after say 30 mins, then you may need to wipe and reinstall. Goodluck.
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Thanks for the clarification. In case I do have to wipe and clean install, is there any app that can save my phone as it is, with all the apps installed my home screen customized with icons, and all the settings intact?
I've read about some apps that do this put I think that just save the apps and not the phone state.
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If you are running CM 4.0.4, you are probably running Apps2SD as well. What this means is that all your applications are saved to your SD card.
So, as long as you don't delete the ext2/3/4 partition on your SD card, all the applications you download will be saved. (Even if you wipe the PHONE)
EDIT: Sorry, I misunderstood the question. If you want to backup the phone in its entirety, you have to do a Nandroid Backup through the Recovery Console (HOME + POWER on boot)
run backup for root users and a nandroid backup
because 4.0.4 is still cupcake with donut sprinkles, updating to full donut there is a very high chance u need to wipe....
all your apps will still be there if ur using a2sd
and if you run backup for root users before and after all your stuff should be fine
i assume you are waiting for cyanogens next rom before updating?
from what i have heard, you will have to have a donut rom (either the htc adp1 or one of his before the C&D)
in which case you will definetly need to wipe
backup for root is a life saver and a2sd makes it all a little smoother
good luck
I've searched around various forums to learn how to do a complete wipe of the system to start completely brand new. I'm not talking about simply deleting user data, but system folders as well that may have gotten modified over time. I'm looking for the equivalent of an iPhone restore (it completely wipes out everything and loads the specified firmware).
So far I've seen people saying just to click on factory reset/restore in Android's settings or in CWM, but those only take care of user settings and files. I've also seen some people say that what I want is not possible.
Please clear it up for me. Is there a way to wipe everything (or reformat) to start off new with a chosen firmware from Asus? If not, then what's the closest thing I could do to achieve what I want?
Thanks
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need to go back to the start. sick of the android.launcher always force closing.
help would be appreciated.
I just did this yesterday by following the unroot guide on the sticky page. It takes you back to a 8.2.something ROM with the stock recovery and then the OTA brought me right back up to the latest .11 fw.
IT also wiped CWM and now it's bone stock.
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I just did this yesterday by following the unroot guide on the sticky page. It takes you back to a 8.2.something ROM with the stock recovery and then the OTA brought me right back up to the latest .11 fw.
IT also wiped CWM and now it's bone stock.
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me like this just removes/replaces the rooted files with the regular stock files, then loads the stock ROM over existing files. Yes it will appear as if you are back to out-of-box stock, but I believe you will still have random leftover files spread throughout your filesystem that had to do with modifications to root or whatever.
I'm looking for the equivalent of PC's reformat hard drive, install OS.
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me like this just removes/replaces the rooted files with the regular stock files, then loads the stock ROM over existing files. Yes it will appear as if you are back to out-of-box stock, but I believe you will still have random leftover files spread throughout your filesystem that had to do with modifications to root or whatever.
I'm looking for the equivalent of PC's reformat hard drive, install OS.
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I went a similar route, mainly by accident. I went through NVflash, which i believe formats and recreates partitions and will flash a rom of your choice. I went straight from format to prime 1.5 in this way. Qualitatively, it does appear a bit snappier than my previous install (root from factory > upgrade to prime).
yeah! i have noticed the leftover files etc too..
I would love to know if you found a way, specially how to format /sdcard and the internal storage
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I went a similar route, mainly by accident. I went through NVflash, which i believe formats and recreates partitions and will flash a rom of your choice. I went straight from format to prime 1.5 in this way. Qualitatively, it does appear a bit snappier than my previous install (root from factory > upgrade to prime).
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Is there a way to customize what it is you want to flash? I've only found guides on how to use nvflash with a permade packages.
as captioned, whats the advantage of doing so?
what are updated by the stock rom that are not updated by the cutomised rom?
recovery.img? i have manually replaced with CWM one..
amss.mbn? i have also manually replaced with the B162 version..
what else then?
now im with oxygen rom (was with B136 stock rom), say if there are indeed certain files from the latest stock rom that i should have, what is the best way to get them updated?
Have a look at this.
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Have a look at this.
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yeah thx.. i read that topic previously..
what im expecting is a bit more technical, such as what actually are being covered by stock rom while not touched by custom roms, where those files in "dev', "etc", "sbin", "sys" come from (since seemingly they are not included in oxygen rom when i check the zip file content), etc..
if these files are from the stock rom im using before flashing a custom rom (oxygen + B136 in my case), then im not just experiencing oxygen, rather a mixed experience of oxygen & B136..
if this is the case, the problems/issues i encountered might not be solely related to oxygen and might actually related to the stock rom..
anyway im very new on linux and smartphone stuff.. any information to enlighten would be much appreciated..
It won't be a mix of two ROMs at the same time, if you install your custom ROM with that instruction:
In Recovery menu: Choose Wipe Data /Factory Reset, then go back to main menu. Choose Wipe Cache Partition, then go back to main menu. Go to Advanced and choose Wipe Dalvik Cache, then go back to main menu. Then install the ROM by using the zip-file you placed on the sd-card earlier. That will delete what's left of the previous ROM. If you don't do this, you will run into problems eventually. But if you just wipe everything before flashing the old ROM cannot interfere.
Do not extract the zip-file of a custom ROM, just install it as it is.
iamelton said:
what actually are being covered by stock rom while not touched by custom roms
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Updates for baseband, maybe also for other components.
iamelton said:
where those files in "dev', "etc", "sbin", "sys" come from (since seemingly they are not included in oxygen rom when i check the zip file content), etc..
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Well Android does some stuff at the first boot and it does install some files (I do not know what it does exactly). If you followed the instructions these files cannot be from another ROM.
What other questions do you have? You just wrote "etc.", I cannot know what you want to ask...
u already helped a lot.. thx.. 8)
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oh just one more question, whats an "update to baseband" then?
amss.mbn? or can i even find it in the form of a file in root explorer?
I don't think that all the data gets replaced even when wiping both caches and doing a factory reset before applying new ROM. I just did that yesterday with new MIUI release, but I can still find data from my very first stock-ROM! In cust_backup/image/cust_data is folder called elisa(finish network provider, from which I originally bought the phone) with all the bloatware(gameloft installerinstallers for example), finish swype and more (folders are: app, lib, logo, prop, wallpaper, xml). Yesterday, I deleted it (the whole "elisa" folder with Root explorer (since I thought that: I have this new ROM, I don't need this old remnant crap of froyo). Well, as it turned out, I DO NEED this old crap, since after reboot phone just froze after operator logo( I honestly don't know how the logo was even possible, since it was in the folder I deleted). Had to restore from recovery and now it is back again..
Q: if I update to latest official rom, will the data in cust_backup be updated? Is this the point of applying latest stock-release once in a while?
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In cust_backup/image/cust_data is folder called elisa(finish network provider, from which I originally bought the phone) with all the bloatware(gameloft installerinstallers for example), finish swype and more (folders are: app, lib, logo, prop, wallpaper, xml).
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I have the same folders, but for Estonia Elisa. I don't understand why is it there, when I have a totally different ROM.
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Well that is not surprising Vk_, I have all those apps and stuff too and if you delete the wrong file there, well... good thing that you cannot brick your phone
The partition mounted to cust_backup won't be overwritten by the wiping that is usually done before installing a new ROM. This is because it contains the files needed for entering recovery-mode etc.
This Elisa-folder contains stuff that is needed, maybe even the bootlogo (I just thought about this for a few minutes now, so I don't know what it is for). This has nothing to do with the ROM previously installed or with the Huawei-ROM. This folder is necessary for every u8800-device to work properly regardless of which Android-ROM is installed. Mine is called 2020 instead (that might depend on where you got it from).
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if I update to latest official rom, will the data in cust_backup be updated? Is this the point of applying latest stock-release once in a while?
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The point of applying the newest release is that you can make sure to get the latest baseband-firmware and maybe even updates for other parts. I do not know if these updates are installed via cust_backup but that could just be the case. It isn't important though; at least I get great reception everywhere so I do not need to update the baseband.
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oh just one more question, whats an "update to baseband" then?
amss.mbn? or can i even find it in the form of a file in root explorer?
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The baseband updates the program that controls the radio-chip. This firmware has its own area on the radio-chip, this firmware won't be stored on the device. But a file to update this firmware will be on the device (maybe it is deleted automatically after updating).
now i think im much clearer.. thx..
then probably i dont need to update to B138 as i have good signal reception everywhere, and can sleep well since i know my phone is not with sub-perfect firmware.. 8)
for the cust-backup discussion, i also had similar doubt before..
glad that i didnt really go ahead to remove this useless "/cust_backup/image/cust_data/pccw/hk/" folder tree..
i just wonder how it manage to survive between rom wipes and installs..
this pccw folder came from the provider where i bought my phone, and in B136 rom its "/cust_backup/image/cust_data/hw/ideos_x5/"
after flashing B136, my phone could boot but things like custom boot animation, ring tones were lost..
i had to rename "hw" to "pccw", "ideos_x5" to "hk" to make them re-appear..
thus the linkage to this special folder tree seems to survive after complete wipes..
anyway before anyone tells me how to remove the whole tree, i shall leave them there..
Yes I wrote that this partition never gets wiped or anything, so that is why it survives every wipe and ROM-install.
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Yes I wrote that this partition never gets wiped or anything, so that is why it survives every wipe and ROM-install.
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actually it gets wiped (probably by the update_cust.app part in the B136 stock rom)..
before its "/cust_backup/image/cust_data/pccw/hk/"..
and after flashing B136 it changes to "/cust_backup/image/cust_data/hw/ideos_x5/"..
thus its updated, but somehow i have to manually rename "/hw/ideos_x5/" back to "/pccw/hk/" in order to make my custom boot animation and ring tones work again..
they were put in "media" folder under the tree, but somehow they wont work until i change the folder names back to "/pccw/hk/"..
thats why i said the "linkage" to these folder tree got survived between rom installs, but not the folder tree itself (which was updated by update_cust.app)..
No it does not get wiped. The stock ROM (and for that matter, every ROM can do that) simply changed the files in the directory you specified in your post. It does not matter anyway (so why am I writing this?;D).
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No it does not get wiped. The stock ROM (and for that matter, every ROM can do that) simply changed the files in the directory you specified in your post. It does not matter anyway (so why am I writing this?;D).
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just for the sake of discussion, maybe?!
i started noticing that after i flashed a new rom, alot of my settings are set to the way i had them before. and some apps are already installed that would otherwise need a marketplace install..
keep in mind, i always do a wipe of cache/dalvik/sdcard
i think it started happening after i partitioned the sd card for those old sense roms that needed extra space.. cant remember..
but it seems like theres a portion of rom that isnt being wiped and all my settings are being carried over to the next rom flash..
how can i fully wipe my phone or get it back to normal?
this is weird, and i want it to stop. any ideas?
i just flashed back to amonra
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i started noticing that after i flashed a new rom, alot of my settings are set to the way i had them before. and some apps are already installed that would otherwise need a marketplace install..
keep in mind, i always do a wipe of cache/dalvik/sdcard
i think it started happening after i partitioned the sd card for those old sense roms that needed extra space.. cant remember..
but it seems like theres a portion of rom that isnt being wiped and all my settings are being carried over to the next rom flash..
how can i fully wipe my phone or get it back to normal?
this is weird, and i want it to stop. any ideas?
i just flashed back to amonra
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Are you using ROMs that have Google back up enabled?
Also, if the zip isn't set to wipe /data and you're not wiping it then you'll still have all of your data.
That has happened to me too. Are you wiping sdext and android.secure in recovery. I always wipe those and haven't had that happen since I started doing that.
We're comin from a pure power source.
naw i turn off all that google backup stuff.
thats the thing, when i try to wipe sdext it gives me an error (from the last i remember doing it)
Hmmm. Latest version of amon ra?
We're comin from a pure power source.
keep in mind, i always do a wipe of cache/dalvik/sdcard
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You should be wiping data as well when flashing new roms.
I flash vrsuperwipe everytime I flash, but I use Google backup, so when I flash a new sense ROM it saves a lot of my settings, and my SD-ext apps automatically appear. Good feature imo.
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bump for any other answers or advice
thanks guise.
still wondering about other options before testing some new roms
same thing happened to me so I tried repairing sdext and then re-partitioned my card and left it ext2 instead of ext3,wipe data/cache/dalvik cache/system flash superwipe, then flashed rom. don't know which one worked but it stopped. Also I noticed it mainly happens when I flash 3.0 roms but it has happened on CM7 to
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i started noticing that after i flashed a new rom, alot of my settings are set to the way i had them before. and some apps are already installed that would otherwise need a marketplace install..
keep in mind, i always do a wipe of cache/dalvik/sdcard
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You did not wipe data. If you do this you will preserve all of you apps (if they were not on card), data and system settings. This may work for you if the new ROM that you are moving to is similar enough. It can cause big problems if the structure of the ROMs is too different. You can end up with a phone that lags and has wakelocks (at best) or is not functional at all due force closes all over the place.
You should really wipe data as well before flashing a ROM and then do a selective restore of data on the new ROM.
Hi,
I want to install the ROM here on my Samsung Galaxy S4 (GT-I9505). I rooted and installed CM on it about 4 months ago, but since have forgotten anything about the process except for towelroot lol. My phone is currently running jflte snapshot M10 ROM for CM. Unfortunately, I have grown quite sick of it as I find I have to restart my phone once, maybe twice a day for everything to run smoothly. I run into problems where the WiFi likes to get stuck saying 'Turning on..'. Ive also been having problems with Google Maps and GPS lately and havent been able to rely on it, possibly its an issue its having with CM. I want to have the fresh Lollipop feel on my phone without any problems if possible. The only trouble is I dont know how to get there. Can anyone help me? Ive completely forgotten the process needed and when I try to look for it on here I am overwhelmed with things I need to do, which version I need to use etc etc. If anyone would be able to help me achieve this it would be greatly appreciated. In the end I just want a nice Lollipop android phone that doesn't have problems on my current S4 (Id rather not have to get a new phone at least until December ) I'm pretty sure I dont have a custom kernel or anything like that as it mentioned in some pages that I will need to get one I think? I also have philz CWM installed.
You have Philz installed, so you don't need to root again. Download the ROM and follow the instructions on the page.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
You have Philz installed, so you don't need to root again. Download the ROM and follow the instructions on the page.
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It also mentioned to make sure I have the latest modem for my variant, how do I check/update that?
In regards to the kernel (which has a link on the same page), what do I do with that?
I don't have the latest modem for my I9505 and that ROM works perfectly fine. Where you've been on a custom ROM for a while finding out which modem you're supposed to use may be difficult. That's also why I recommend not worrying about it, unless you need to.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
I don't have the latest modem for my I9505 and that ROM works perfectly fine. Where you've been on a custom ROM for a while finding out which modem you're supposed to use may be difficult. That's also why I recommend not worrying about it, unless you need to.
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Ok thanks. In regards to the kernel that is linked on the page, I guess I would be at an advantage if I downloaded and installed that too. How do I install it?
If' we're talking the same GPE ROM, and I think we are, the kernel is included in the ROM download. You'll be prompted to select a kernel when you run the install through the recovery.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
If' we're talking the same GPE ROM, and I think we are, the kernel is included in the ROM download. You'll be prompted to select a kernel when you run the install through the recovery.
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Ok thanks a lot!
So process:
Backup data/photos etc
Nandroid backup
Full wipe using philz?
Flash ROM
Done?
You've got it.
When you are prompted to select the kernel, use the Googy Max kernel. The stock kernel sometimes causes random reboots. Also, on first boot the S4 will sit for a fair amount of time before prompting you to set a language. THIS IS NORMAL. It's because Android 5.0.x uses Art instead of Dalvik, and has to compile the apps the first time around.
In other words, after rebooting, just be patient.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
You've got it.
When you are prompted to select the kernel, use the Googy Max kernel. The stock kernel sometimes causes random reboots. Also, on first boot the S4 will sit for a fair amount of time before prompting you to set a language. THIS IS NORMAL. It's because Android 5.0.x uses Art instead of Dalvik, and has to compile the apps the first time around.
In other words, after rebooting, just be patient.
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Ok, thanks a lot for the help! Greatly appreciated. Hope I dont run into any problems
I installed that ROM on Sunday, so what I did is still fresh in my mind. If you have problems, just use this thread and quote me. I'll do my best to help.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
I installed that ROM on Sunday, so what I did is still fresh in my mind. If you have problems, just use this thread and quote me. I'll do my best to help.
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All installed, was quite easy! Looks bloody beautiful, love it already. Thanks a heap!
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
I installed that ROM on Sunday, so what I did is still fresh in my mind. If you have problems, just use this thread and quote me. I'll do my best to help.
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I made and error when backing up and didnt back up my photos onto a computer Is there any way that my nandroid recovery or titanium backup have saved my photos and how could I recover them?
jc258 said:
I made and error when backing up and didnt back up my photos onto a computer Is there any way that my nandroid recovery or titanium backup have saved my photos and how could I recover them?
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No, they are gone forever.
How is that even possible that you wiped them? Wiping in the custom recovery never touches your internal storage by default. So you have done it yourself. You probably did a factory reset from within android itself. Never do that again. Use the custom recovery for wiping only and you never will have this problem again.
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No, they are gone forever.
How is that even possible that you wiped them? Wiping in the custom recovery never touches your internal storage by default. So you have done it yourself. You probably did a factory reset from within android itself. NEVER DO THAT AGAIN. Use the custom recovery for wiping only and you never will have this problem again.
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Are you sure about that? It happened the first time I flashed a ROM. Wiped cache, wiped Dalvik through CWM. Never did a factory reset. No need for caps.
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Are you sure about that? It happened the first time I flashed a ROM. Wiped cache, wiped Dalvik through CWM. Never did a factory reset. No need for caps.
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No it's not possible for it to happen without you doing so. Unless you encrypted your phone or something.
ps removed the caps
The rom he installed has an aroma installer which offers the option to do a simple wipe (Dalvik, cache and data), no wipe (Dirty flash) and a factory reset (which also wipes the internal storage).
By default it is set on factory reset option.
It also says in red letters that this option is recommended.
So maybe he left it on factory reset (since it was also recommended) , instead of changing it to simple wipe, and that wiped the whole phone, including the internal storage.
Will a software that recovers deleted files not work? Since the phone wasn't encrypted.
It would if Windows saw the internal storage as a drive. Due to MTP it doesn't. He'll have to do a search, but there was another S4 owner who lost his photos and was trying to get them back. I don't know if a solution was ever found.
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The rom he installed has an aroma installer which offers the option to do a simple wipe (Dalvik, cache and data), no wipe (Dirty flash) and a factory reset (which also wipes the internal storage).
By default it is set on factory reset option.
It also says in red letters that this option is recommended.
So maybe he left it on factory reset (since it was also recommended) , instead of changing it to simple wipe, and that wiped the whole phone, including the internal storage.
Will a software that recovers deleted files not work? Since the phone wasn't encrypted.
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If that's the case then shame on the developer. A factory reset in a custom recovery should leave the internal storage intact.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
It would if Windows saw the internal storage as a drive. Due to MTP it doesn't. He'll have to do a search, but there was another S4 owner who lost his photos and was trying to get them back. I don't know if a solution was ever found.
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No it's impossible. Once it's gone the files are permanently gone. Not even a professional company can restore them. That's because of TRIM that Android has from version 4.3.
Lennyz1988 said:
If that's the case then shame on the developer. A factory reset in a custom recovery should leave the internal storage intact.
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It's not in the recovery. It's in the aroma installer. Those are 2 different things.
Besides, there is a description, under each setting, of what each one does.
@Lennyz1988: Perhaps you should bring this up with the developers of the ROM and see what they say. I suspect they have a very good reason for wiping the internal storage, and my gut instinct tells me it has to do with the Android folder on there.
On the flip side, thanks for the homework you gave me. I have to look into what TRIM is all about, as my last device was powered by Gingerbread.