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as captioned, whats the advantage of doing so?
what are updated by the stock rom that are not updated by the cutomised rom?
recovery.img? i have manually replaced with CWM one..
amss.mbn? i have also manually replaced with the B162 version..
what else then?
now im with oxygen rom (was with B136 stock rom), say if there are indeed certain files from the latest stock rom that i should have, what is the best way to get them updated?
Have a look at this.
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Have a look at this.
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yeah thx.. i read that topic previously..
what im expecting is a bit more technical, such as what actually are being covered by stock rom while not touched by custom roms, where those files in "dev', "etc", "sbin", "sys" come from (since seemingly they are not included in oxygen rom when i check the zip file content), etc..
if these files are from the stock rom im using before flashing a custom rom (oxygen + B136 in my case), then im not just experiencing oxygen, rather a mixed experience of oxygen & B136..
if this is the case, the problems/issues i encountered might not be solely related to oxygen and might actually related to the stock rom..
anyway im very new on linux and smartphone stuff.. any information to enlighten would be much appreciated..
It won't be a mix of two ROMs at the same time, if you install your custom ROM with that instruction:
In Recovery menu: Choose Wipe Data /Factory Reset, then go back to main menu. Choose Wipe Cache Partition, then go back to main menu. Go to Advanced and choose Wipe Dalvik Cache, then go back to main menu. Then install the ROM by using the zip-file you placed on the sd-card earlier. That will delete what's left of the previous ROM. If you don't do this, you will run into problems eventually. But if you just wipe everything before flashing the old ROM cannot interfere.
Do not extract the zip-file of a custom ROM, just install it as it is.
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what actually are being covered by stock rom while not touched by custom roms
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Updates for baseband, maybe also for other components.
iamelton said:
where those files in "dev', "etc", "sbin", "sys" come from (since seemingly they are not included in oxygen rom when i check the zip file content), etc..
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Well Android does some stuff at the first boot and it does install some files (I do not know what it does exactly). If you followed the instructions these files cannot be from another ROM.
What other questions do you have? You just wrote "etc.", I cannot know what you want to ask...
u already helped a lot.. thx.. 8)
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oh just one more question, whats an "update to baseband" then?
amss.mbn? or can i even find it in the form of a file in root explorer?
I don't think that all the data gets replaced even when wiping both caches and doing a factory reset before applying new ROM. I just did that yesterday with new MIUI release, but I can still find data from my very first stock-ROM! In cust_backup/image/cust_data is folder called elisa(finish network provider, from which I originally bought the phone) with all the bloatware(gameloft installerinstallers for example), finish swype and more (folders are: app, lib, logo, prop, wallpaper, xml). Yesterday, I deleted it (the whole "elisa" folder with Root explorer (since I thought that: I have this new ROM, I don't need this old remnant crap of froyo). Well, as it turned out, I DO NEED this old crap, since after reboot phone just froze after operator logo( I honestly don't know how the logo was even possible, since it was in the folder I deleted). Had to restore from recovery and now it is back again..
Q: if I update to latest official rom, will the data in cust_backup be updated? Is this the point of applying latest stock-release once in a while?
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In cust_backup/image/cust_data is folder called elisa(finish network provider, from which I originally bought the phone) with all the bloatware(gameloft installerinstallers for example), finish swype and more (folders are: app, lib, logo, prop, wallpaper, xml).
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I have the same folders, but for Estonia Elisa. I don't understand why is it there, when I have a totally different ROM.
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Well that is not surprising Vk_, I have all those apps and stuff too and if you delete the wrong file there, well... good thing that you cannot brick your phone
The partition mounted to cust_backup won't be overwritten by the wiping that is usually done before installing a new ROM. This is because it contains the files needed for entering recovery-mode etc.
This Elisa-folder contains stuff that is needed, maybe even the bootlogo (I just thought about this for a few minutes now, so I don't know what it is for). This has nothing to do with the ROM previously installed or with the Huawei-ROM. This folder is necessary for every u8800-device to work properly regardless of which Android-ROM is installed. Mine is called 2020 instead (that might depend on where you got it from).
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if I update to latest official rom, will the data in cust_backup be updated? Is this the point of applying latest stock-release once in a while?
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The point of applying the newest release is that you can make sure to get the latest baseband-firmware and maybe even updates for other parts. I do not know if these updates are installed via cust_backup but that could just be the case. It isn't important though; at least I get great reception everywhere so I do not need to update the baseband.
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oh just one more question, whats an "update to baseband" then?
amss.mbn? or can i even find it in the form of a file in root explorer?
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The baseband updates the program that controls the radio-chip. This firmware has its own area on the radio-chip, this firmware won't be stored on the device. But a file to update this firmware will be on the device (maybe it is deleted automatically after updating).
now i think im much clearer.. thx..
then probably i dont need to update to B138 as i have good signal reception everywhere, and can sleep well since i know my phone is not with sub-perfect firmware.. 8)
for the cust-backup discussion, i also had similar doubt before..
glad that i didnt really go ahead to remove this useless "/cust_backup/image/cust_data/pccw/hk/" folder tree..
i just wonder how it manage to survive between rom wipes and installs..
this pccw folder came from the provider where i bought my phone, and in B136 rom its "/cust_backup/image/cust_data/hw/ideos_x5/"
after flashing B136, my phone could boot but things like custom boot animation, ring tones were lost..
i had to rename "hw" to "pccw", "ideos_x5" to "hk" to make them re-appear..
thus the linkage to this special folder tree seems to survive after complete wipes..
anyway before anyone tells me how to remove the whole tree, i shall leave them there..
Yes I wrote that this partition never gets wiped or anything, so that is why it survives every wipe and ROM-install.
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Yes I wrote that this partition never gets wiped or anything, so that is why it survives every wipe and ROM-install.
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actually it gets wiped (probably by the update_cust.app part in the B136 stock rom)..
before its "/cust_backup/image/cust_data/pccw/hk/"..
and after flashing B136 it changes to "/cust_backup/image/cust_data/hw/ideos_x5/"..
thus its updated, but somehow i have to manually rename "/hw/ideos_x5/" back to "/pccw/hk/" in order to make my custom boot animation and ring tones work again..
they were put in "media" folder under the tree, but somehow they wont work until i change the folder names back to "/pccw/hk/"..
thats why i said the "linkage" to these folder tree got survived between rom installs, but not the folder tree itself (which was updated by update_cust.app)..
No it does not get wiped. The stock ROM (and for that matter, every ROM can do that) simply changed the files in the directory you specified in your post. It does not matter anyway (so why am I writing this?;D).
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No it does not get wiped. The stock ROM (and for that matter, every ROM can do that) simply changed the files in the directory you specified in your post. It does not matter anyway (so why am I writing this?;D).
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just for the sake of discussion, maybe?!
I know this has been asked but i am new to Android. This is my first device i am tring to root and cannot root i have tried using Iconia root and Gingerbreak. Both do not work on my device. I don't want to take my device (Acer Iconia A500) to a older android software. and was wondering if somebody can point me in a direction of a valid way to root HC 3.2, i would be in your dept.
Again i am sorry for making this tread i know it has been asked and asked and asked but there is alot of bogus things and/or solutions for older software for my device.
Unfortunately, to root 3.2 due to the new acer bootloader, you first have to rollback to an older version of HC.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1276227
Not that it can be a little bit unstable, but most folks were able to work with it, and have success.
After you get your root, you can flash most of the 3.2 roms in the dev forum for the 500.
It seriously is not as bad as it sounds to roll back to the 3.01 software, root, and then install your custom rom. once you get the files downloaded, you'll be good to go in less than 30 minutes (probably less than 15 if everything goes flawlessly).
Yea I was surprised at how quick and painless the process was, and some of the custom ROMS are far better than the Acer OTA one. The rollback to 3.01 I believe is the simplest but I think I read before of someone rooting 3.2 without rolling back. It was a very complicated procedure though and I wouldn't recommend it.
yea
This is what i feared is i had to go back to a older system, but i understand and i may do it. All i need to know is does going back to the old software delete all my files on here and if so whats the best backup program to use? by files i mean apps, music, and settings.
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This is what i feared is i had to go back to a older system, but i understand and i may do it. All i need to know is does going back to the old software delete all my files on here and if so whats the best backup program to use? by files i mean apps, music, and settings.
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Anything on the sd card is safe (if you keep your music and fotos there). As for apps, the Market always remembers paid apps, and the newer market usually remembers most of the free apps you downloaded (I believe the apps are synched to google), so when you flash a new rom, it usually (in my experience) starts to download them all once you login to your account on first boot.
Out of luck on settings though. Installing a different rom will wipe away all user data. App settings, etc. You can use a backup app like Titanium backup, and backup like game data and app settings, then restore them after flashing a new rom, but really, I feel it's better to get a fresh start on a new rom
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Anything on the sd card is safe (if you keep your music and fotos there). As for apps, the Market always remembers paid apps, and the newer market usually remembers most of the free apps you downloaded (I believe the apps are synched to google), so when you flash a new rom, it usually (in my experience) starts to download them all once you login to your account on first boot.
Out of luck on settings though. Installing a different rom will wipe away all user data. App settings, etc. You can use a backup app like Titanium backup, and backup like game data and app settings, then restore them after flashing a new rom, but really, I feel it's better to get a fresh start on a new rom
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If you are worried about backing up your apps, there are free apps in the market that will create backup files of your APK's. As for music and files, i find that flashing a new ROM they are still there, but just to be safe you can transfer them to a usb stick or something if you are worried about losing them. As for settings in the apps, you might be out of luck. I don't know a way of keeping them, but at the same time I never really cared to.
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This is what i feared is i had to go back to a older system, but i understand and i may do it. All i need to know is does going back to the old software delete all my files on here and if so whats the best backup program to use? by files i mean apps, music, and settings.
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I used method #2 in this link and it worked great for me. Then installed one of the rooted 3.2 roms in the development section and was up and running in no time. No data was deleted and all my apps were ready to go. When you first boot after the downgrade you will get a bunch of force closes, don't worry that is normal. Just follow the directions, install and run iconiaroot1.3, then install the cwm recovery through the acer recovery installer, then install the rooted 3.2 rom and when you boot up everything will be working correctly and you will be rooted. Here is the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1276227
Also, I downloaded and installed the iconiaroot 1.3 and the acer recovery installer before downgrading so everything was ready to go. After you install and enter the cwm recovery, only wipe dalvik and cache before installing the 3.2 rom. If you wipe data you will loose all of your data. Took me about 10 minutes for the whole process and I didn't loose any data or have to re-install any apps.
tring but not success
i downloaded the zip file and installed the files in the zip file to my external cd card......then when i try to reboot using the power+vol-down keys it starts to load files then the android emblem comes up loads to 3/4 the the bar goes away and the android stays and now has a caution symbol in the middle and then the tab boots normal with all normal software......and help as to why i cannot flash the old software
Sounds like the file got corrupted. If you downloaded from a PC, try downloading it again. If you downloaded from the tab, try doing it from a PC and then transferring it to the tab.
Just got a GTab 2 7.0 a few days ago. A P3113, so only 8GB of storage, about half of which is the ROM and crap apps. I've rooted before (had a KF 1st gen when it came out), and just wondering about a few things with the GTab:
Right now, I don't mind the stock ROM so much. There are problem things that would be "nice to have", but right now, would like to generally stay as "stock" as possible. That being said, I'd still like to "de-crap" the ROM to free up some storage space, and I assume that might lead to it running a bit better, since so much seems to just pop-in while running other apps. So:
I know I need to root first, so my first question - how reliable is that? I'm on a Mac, but have access to a netbook running Win7, so could run Odin to "get things done". I'd hate to brick the thing, still having 51 weeks of warranty left. (I also understand that I might want to install something else to keep the flash count from showing it's been flashed).
Once root'ed, is it better to use one of the "de-crapped" ROMs floating around? And if so, which seems "best" (yeah, I know the moderators hate the "which is best" - I'm looking for stock - and STABLE)
Or, is it better to eliminate the apps myself? (Not sure if this is a wholesale "rm" to remove certain apps from a terminal app, using adb, or if they have some uninstallers embedded somewhere, or...) - so better to use one of the ROMs floating around?
Is the GTab 2 "stable", so even if you trash a ROM, you can still get into the ROM manager to restore a previously working, or stock, ROM?
I'll probably come up with a couple more questions, especially depending on the replies... TIA
Hi..
I can answer some of your questions. I hope that helps!
1- Rooting is easy and reliable. you may use "CF-Auto-Root" tool (search for it in XDA forum).
But you need to remember that rooting and custom ROMs void your warranty.
2- If you just need to free some storage space, you may use an app such as "Clean Master" to uninstall system apps and get rid of temp and junk files.
3- If you opt to use a custom ROM make sure it is very well supported and maintained.
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Hi..
I can answer some of your questions. I hope that helps!
1- Rooting is easy and reliable. you may use "CF-Auto-Root" tool (search for it in XDA forum).
But you need to remember that rooting and custom ROMs void your warranty.
2- If you just need to free some storage space, you may use an app such as "Clean Master" to uninstall system apps and get rid of temp and junk files.
3- If you opt to use a custom ROM make sure it is very well supported and maintained.
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Thanks - but prior to using Clean Master I assume I better either get a stock image to reload, or use CWM so I can make a backup of the ROM before messing something up?
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Thanks - but prior to using Clean Master I assume I better either get a stock image to reload, or use CWM so I can make a backup of the ROM before messing something up?
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Taking a backup is always good thing to do. I suggest you try clean master to know how it works and what does it do.
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Taking a backup is always good thing to do. I suggest you try clean master to know how it works and what does it do.
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Thanks - I plan to use Clean Master. Allows me to be selective about what I remove/move, instead of getting a ROM from someone and they removed the ONE THING I really wanted.
Ok, got it rooted and CWM installed.
HOWEVER, when I boot into CWM, I DON'T see an option to backup my ROM (I've used TWRP before on my KF, so the menu is different).
What I've got on my screen in CWM:
Android system recover <3e>
Volume up/down to move highlight;
power button to select.
reboot system now
apply update from ADB
apply update from external storage
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache partition
apply update from cache
That's it. Where's the option to do a ROM backup? Oh, used file P3113_SAMSUNG_RECOVERY_SUPERSU-0.96_BUSYBOX-1.20.2.tar.md5.zip Had CWM and Root all in one. I do have GT-P3113_ClockworkMod-Recovery_6.0.1.0.tar as well. Should I just go through procedure again to flash this CWM? Will it still retain SU?
nandroid backup ok to use? Seems it's just a wrapper for a backup script...
Ok - I'll reply to myself.
I don't know what was wrong with the CWM I installed via the aforementioned file (P3113_SAMSUNG_RECOVERY_SUPERSU-0.96_BUSYBOX-1.20.2.tar.md5.zip), but I went to the CWM site, D/L'ed the latest touch enabled CWM for the P3113 (6.0.2.3, I believe), and installed it over the existing recovery image on the device (I had to create my own .tar.md5 - easy with *nix).
Anyway, I now have access to the backup options by scrolling down. The image from P3113_SAMSUNG_RECOVERY_SUPERSU-0.96_BUSYBOX-1.20.2.tar.md5.zip, simply wouldn't scroll beyond what I listed earlier. Now can scroll down, make backups, etc.
Haven't tried yet to re-install the image I made with nandroid - I'm a bit leery of that - so I'll just get the stock 4.1.1 ROM from sammobile, and keep it around....
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Ok - I'll reply to myself.
I don't know what was wrong with the CWM I installed via the aforementioned file (P3113_SAMSUNG_RECOVERY_SUPERSU-0.96_BUSYBOX-1.20.2.tar.md5.zip), but I went to the CWM site, D/L'ed the latest touch enabled CWM for the P3113 (6.0.2.3, I believe), and installed it over the existing recovery image on the device (I had to create my own .tar.md5 - easy with *nix).
Anyway, I now have access to the backup options by scrolling down. The image from P3113_SAMSUNG_RECOVERY_SUPERSU-0.96_BUSYBOX-1.20.2.tar.md5.zip, simply wouldn't scroll beyond what I listed earlier. Now can scroll down, make backups, etc.
Haven't tried yet to re-install the image I made with nandroid - I'm a bit leery of that - so I'll just get the stock 4.1.1 ROM from sammobile, and keep it around....
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That's exactly what I did today, grabbed the stock image for a backup, rooted with Odin and CWM then flashed a CM based 4.3 ROM. Piece of cake.
After searching for a fair while i've come to the conclusion that there aren't any threads that pose my set of issues. I've tried installing AllianceRom several times, i follow their instructions to the letter, and everytime i end up with a failed extraction, i've re-downloaded the ROM twice now and am simply unsure of how to continue, i would LOVE to see their rom in action and how it functions i'm just at a loss for how to continue, steps i take with safestrap as such.
1. Reboot into recovery
2. switch to rom-slot 1 (also tried the other numbers.. just in case)
3. create the slot, wipe it
4. install zip file ( tried from different folders, on both internal and sd storage)
5. facepalm i'm not sure what to do now i'm slightly sad because it's the seemingly coolest looking rom, there's so much customization options to it.. i just want it hopefully someone out there has an answer, and if not i'll let the subject die for now, thanks for your time to anyone whom reads this.
-brando
brando5055 said:
After searching for a fair while i've come to the conclusion that there aren't any threads that pose my set of issues. I've tried installing AllianceRom several times, i follow their instructions to the letter, and everytime i end up with a failed extraction, i've re-downloaded the ROM twice now and am simply unsure of how to continue, i would LOVE to see their rom in action and how it functions i'm just at a loss for how to continue, steps i take with safestrap as such.
1. Reboot into recovery
2. switch to rom-slot 1 (also tried the other numbers.. just in case)
3. create the slot, wipe it
4. install zip file ( tried from different folders, on both internal and sd storage)
5. facepalm i'm not sure what to do now i'm slightly sad because it's the seemingly coolest looking rom, there's so much customization options to it.. i just want it hopefully someone out there has an answer, and if not i'll let the subject die for now, thanks for your time to anyone whom reads this.
-brando
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Have you tried flashing to stock slot yet? rom slots have many known bugs as of now and most ROM devs recommend flashing to stock slot and avoiding rom slots.
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Have you tried flashing to stock slot yet? rom slots have many known bugs as of now and most ROM devs recommend flashing to stock slot and avoiding rom slots.
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I have not, all honesty i'm super new to the entire process and thus far I haven't done that because i still use my stock rom on occasion flipping back and forth between the two and I'm primarily terrified of bricking my phone. What process would i go through to get my stock rom backed up and assuredly not going to be screwed out of it not existing before i tried flashing to the stock slot? I know i sound paranoid because i really am especially after it not working =/
Possibly figured it out
If i'm correct, i now know the issue. the file site dropped some people's network connections, and i'm guessing since my file size was only ~650 mb that was my issue, if not i'll inform you otherwise i'll be deleting the thread, thank you mr. hyde
brando5055 said:
I have not, all honesty i'm super new to the entire process and thus far I haven't done that because i still use my stock rom on occasion flipping back and forth between the two and I'm primarily terrified of bricking my phone. What process would i go through to get my stock rom backed up and assuredly not going to be screwed out of it not existing before i tried flashing to the stock slot? I know i sound paranoid because i really am especially after it not working =/
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1. Reboot to safestrap
2. Activate stock slot
3. backup -> data and system should be checked only
4. Wipe data/factory reset option
5. Install -> romfile.zip
6. Reboot.
If you want to be safer, after step 3 backup, reboot back to your system and copy the backup folder from external sd/ TWRP/######/backup folder. This way you'll have a backup on your computer in case something breaks. The nice thing is, safestrap is safe and won't (shouldn't..) brick your phone.
EDIT: just saw your recent post. yes, the alliance rom zip file should be 1gb or greater.
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1. Reboot to safestrap
2. Activate stock slot
3. backup -> data and system should be checked only
4. Wipe data/factory reset option
5. Install -> romfile.zip
6. Reboot.
If you want to be safer, after step 3 backup, reboot back to your system and copy the backup folder from external sd/ TWRP/######/backup folder. This way you'll have a backup on your computer in case something breaks. The nice thing is, safestrap is safe and won't (shouldn't..) brick your phone.
EDIT: just saw your recent post. yes, the alliance rom zip file should be 1gb or greater.
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Well, it worked (go figure i feel like a dumbass), however after all of it i realized looking at oyur name that you seemed familiar for some reason. The first ROM i flashed, was yours. Thanks for that, it's very well made.
Hello everyone. I've tried really hard to DO NOT create this thread. As it happens I have used all I know (which isnt much) to try to fix this problem but got no success.
So I've got a S4 GT-I9505. I've recently decided to root it mainly because I wanted full External SD-card access to some apps. Here are some facts about my rooting:
- I used TWRP;
- I used SuperSU;
- I kept the stock ROM. I personally dont have anything to complain about it so I didnt install any custom ROMs.
- I had a problem with Knox afterwards, the phone was rebooting and freezing. I made a backup on Titanium and then uninstalled every Knox-related app.
- The system worked nicely for days.
Then I decided to clean some garbage that I knew was present in my device, like ghost folders and foster files and such.
- I installed SD-Maid and Clean Master.
- On the same day, I switched my SIM card because of some personal issues. I'm brazilian but now living in Deutschland. The change of SIM cards (if it matters) was as follows: bought the phone > inserted brazilian SIM > inserted deutsch SIM > inserted brazilian SIM (due to a personal problem) > back to deutsch SIM. I'm telling you this because I'm not sure of how relevant it is. Just trying to give as much info as possible.
- I cleaned some **** with SD-Maid AND Clean Master.
What happened next:
- WhatsApp was broken. I couldnt receive any media (voice recordings, videos, images, nothing at all).
- I tried re-installing the App
- I tried to restore my WhatsApp backup from Titanium. No success*.
- I tried to restore my backup from TWRD. No success.
- I tried to change WhatsApp folder (on data/media) permissions to r-r-r---- and then back to 00775. No success.
- I tried re-registering my phone to whatsapp network. No success.
- I tried deleting whatsapp folder on data/media (WhatsApp FAQ recomendation). Thats when WhatsApp stopped also SENDING media. I couldnt simply send or receive through the app.
- I tried re-creating the WhatsApp media folder on data. No success.
- I tried a factory reset followed by a TWRD backup restoration. WhatsApp was once again SENDING, but NOT RECEIVING media. When my phone finished booting and the launcher loaded, I was immediately prompted by a WhatsApp message saying something like "Conection failed! Please verify your phone number. WhatsApp can only be installed in one device per phone-number" even though everything else internet-related was working just fine.
(* when I say NO SUCCESS, I refer to the fact that WhatsApp still not receiving/sending media, not that I failed to implement that given fix)
Now, when I wiped my phone to factory defaults, I noticed that in TWRD prompt it said something like "Wiping Data, EXCEPT data/media". My knowledge of the subject isnt great but I think it might be something with this folder.
Any thoughts?
Thank you very much in advance!
Do nothing. Delete your account from whatsapp and recreate it with the number you wish to use
My whatsapp works fine with a different no. And has a diff sim for calling.
Maybe to much of backup.. restore...bla bla..made it crash.
Press Thanks if I helped
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4 via XDA app.
Venorian said:
- I tried re-registering my phone to whatsapp network. No success.
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DeepankarS said:
Do nothing. Delete your account from whatsapp and recreate it with the number you wish to use
My whatsapp works fine with a different no. And has a diff sim for calling.
Maybe to much of backup.. restore...bla bla..made it crash.
Press Thanks if I helped
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4 via XDA app.
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It was not very clear in my post, indeed, but yes I have tried that as well. Thanks for trying!
I would just take the shortcut.
- Backup the apps you want to backup with Titanium.
- Make a backup of Whatsapp from within the app.
- Wipe from TWRP recovery (I assume that's what you mean by TWRD). Use the option prepare for rom flash (don't know the excact words, but you understand when you see the option).
- Reflash the rom you are currently on with Odin (or flash a custom rom).
You can also just skip the wiping part and just flash the rom with Odin again. I always like to start from scratch if something goes wrong, but it should probably work without the wipe.
Then restore the apps you want to restore. Whatsapp should probably be working now.
You can spend many more hours finding a solution, but my guess is that SD-maid or Clean Master deleted something it should not have. Always be carefull with those kind of apps. I don't really like those apps because the benefit you get from them is limited.
GOT A FIX!
After 2 days of hitting my head on the wall with this, I came up with a solution.
My girlfriend has the exact same phone as me (though I think any rooted android with WhatsApp installed would do).
I entered her data/media/whatsapp folder and created all the folders that were missing on my own folder (deleted by CleanMaster just for being empty). Then I gave all the folders the exact same permissions (rwxrwx--x or 0775) as my girlfriend's device and voila! It's working perfectly!
Now just for future reference and to feed my curiosity: why does factory reset through TWRP do not also wipe data/media? If this folder were wiped, I would get a fresh WhatsApp install and the problem would have been gone sooner. I kinda dont understand the folders' structure in my phone. Sometimes it looks like I can get to the same very place using diferent paths (like /data/ OR /emulated/ OR /0/ OR /sdcard/).
Anyway, thanks people! Though I figured it all by myself, this forum still rocks!
Venorian said:
GOT A FIX!
After 2 days of hitting my head on the wall with this, I came up with a solution.
My girlfriend has the exact same phone as me (though I think any rooted android with WhatsApp installed would do).
I entered her data/media/whatsapp folder and created all the folders that were missing on my own folder (deleted by CleanMaster just for being empty). Then I gave all the folders the exact same permissions (rwxrwx--x or 0775) as my girlfriend's device and voila! It's working perfectly!
Now just for future reference and to feed my curiosity: why does factory reset through TWRP do not also wipe data/media? If this folder were wiped, I would get a fresh WhatsApp install and the problem would have been gone sooner. I kinda dont understand the folders' structure in my phone. Sometimes it looks like I can get to the same very place using diferent paths (like /data/ OR /emulated/ OR /0/ OR /sdcard/).
Anyway, thanks people! Though I figured it all by myself, this forum still rocks!
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Good that you found a solution.
It would be bad thing if the custom recovery would standard wipe data/media because that would wipe your entire internal sd. People that flash roms don't want that to happen. You can still wipe it from the recovery, it's just in a different place then the standard wiping.
Lennyz1988 said:
Good that you found a solution.
It would be bad thing if the custom recovery would standard wipe data/media because that would wipe your entire internal sd. People that flash roms don't want that to happen. You can still wipe it from the recovery, it's just in a different place then the standard wiping.
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So basically its just a matter of keeping your apps and app data? Not something system-damaging or system-related at all?
And thanks for your answer!
Venorian said:
So basically its just a matter of keeping your apps and app data? Not something system-damaging or system-related at all?
And thanks for your answer!
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No your apps and data will be wiped. Basically every part that could interfere with a new rom is wiped. It's only the data on your internal storage that is kept. So apps (like Whatsapp) also write data to your internal storage and that won't get wiped.
/system
/data (excluded /data/media)
/cache
and a few more will be wiped.
(There are more parts that don't get wiped, but that are parts that neither an app or you will ever touch.)
Now the problem is back. I can't really understand what happened.
I rebooted my phone just to check if everything was OK and then to do a new backup in TWRP.
Checked WhatsApp and the problem was back. Then I went to see the files and some folders that I've just copied were gone! The WhatsApp main folder on data/media was still there, but some subfolders were simply missing. I also noticed that my copy of that folder on my External SD-card was also gone! Like WTH?!
Any help will be much appreciated.
P.S.: and to my happiness, copying the files once again (as I've done before) simply doesnt work. This is driving me crazy, seriously.
this happened to me once, and wasn't whatsapp only, the reason whatsapp wasn't being able to receive/send media files was because it somehow could not access the internal storage.. same with all my other apps, it happened when restoring a full rom backup with CWM.. and the only way i managed to fix it was to re-flash the stock rom with odin
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this happened to me once, and wasn't whatsapp only, the reason whatsapp wasn't being able to receive/send media files was because it somehow could not access the internal storage.. same with all my other apps, it happened when restoring a full rom backup with CWM.. and the only way i managed to fix it was to re-flash the stock rom with odin
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Not even a factory reset will do?
How do I find a stock ROM from Samsung (with 4.4.2) compatible with my S4 GT-I9505? Also: should I also wipe everything or simply flash the rom without doing anything else?
Now that you said, I also noticed that one of my favorite games (Mushroom Wars) has also stopped working. Might be that you're right!
Venorian said:
Not even a factory reset will do?
How do I find a stock ROM from Samsung (with 4.4.2) compatible with my S4 GT-I9505? Also: should I also wipe everything or simply flash the rom without doing anything else?
Now that you said, I also noticed that one of my favorite games (Mushroom Wars) has also stopped working. Might be that you're right!
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Do as I suggested. Start from a blank sheet and stay away from those rom cleaners for now.
You could just take a clean custom rom, then you don't have to worry about deleting those knox stuff and rerooting again.
Venorian said:
Not even a factory reset will do?
How do I find a stock ROM from Samsung (with 4.4.2) compatible with my S4 GT-I9505? Also: should I also wipe everything or simply flash the rom without doing anything else?
Now that you said, I also noticed that one of my favorite games (Mushroom Wars) has also stopped working. Might be that you're right!
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i honestly didn't attempt a factory reset because i wanted to keep all my stuff, so i just flashed the stock rom on odin and everything worked out fine, was the only way i was able to fix it
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i honestly didn't attempt a factory reset because i wanted to keep all my stuff, so i just flashed the stock rom on odin and everything worked out fine, was the only way i was able to fix it
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By doing this I'll have to reroot, right? Do you think it is a problem if I recover my backup from TWRP after flashing the stock rom?
Dont wanna go through the configs and app installing all over again.
Venorian said:
By doing this I'll have to reroot, right? Do you think it is a problem if I recover my backup from TWRP after flashing the stock rom?
Dont wanna go through the configs and app installing all over again.
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you don't need to re-configure or recover a backup, if you flash the same stock on odin as you already had running, without wiping, it should work right away, without any issues and without any need for a wipe or a restore, you will have to re-root though, yes.
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you don't need to re-configure or recover a backup, if you flash the same stock on odin as you already had running, without wiping, it should work right away, without any issues and without any need for a wipe or a restore, you will have to re-root though, yes.
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Here is your stock firmware: http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=33568
Tkkg1994 said:
Here is your stock firmware: http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=33568
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This is for switzerland, isnt it? A Brazilian version would be most welcome! I'm currently downloading one from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265477
-Ric- said:
you don't need to re-configure or recover a backup, if you flash the same stock on odin as you already had running, without wiping, it should work right away, without any issues and without any need for a wipe or a restore, you will have to re-root though, yes.
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Sure! Thank you for your help!
Just a side note: while downloading the stock rom, I found this and installed the given app (Folder Mount) just to check. As soon as I opened it, it pop'd a message saying that he identified a crucial problem with my /bin/sdcardwhatever file. So yes, I'm confident that your solution will be the one to fix my problem. Let's see...
Also thanks for Lennyz1988 for your suggestion. Your fix seems a little bit... harder?... for me, but if this one doesnt work I'll try yours and post the results. BTW, where do I find a clean custom ROM? Thank you!
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This is for switzerland, isnt it? A Brazilian version would be most welcome! I'm currently downloading one from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265477
Sure! Thank you for your help!
Just a side note: while downloading the stock rom, I found this and installed the given app (Folder Mount) just to check. As soon as I opened it, it pop'd a message saying that he identified a crucial problem with my /bin/sdcardwhatever file. So yes, I'm confident that your solution will be the one to fix my problem. Let's see...
Also thanks for Lennyz1988 for your suggestion. Your fix seems a little bit... harder?... for me, but if this one doesnt work I'll try yours and post the results. BTW, where do I find a clean custom ROM? Thank you!
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Cause you want a Brazil version, here you go : http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=31097
Lennyz1988 said:
I would just take the shortcut.
- Backup the apps you want to backup with Titanium.
- Make a backup of Whatsapp from within the app.
- Wipe from TWRP recovery (I assume that's what you mean by TWRD). Use the option prepare for rom flash (don't know the excact words, but you understand when you see the option).
- Reflash the rom you are currently on with Odin (or flash a custom rom).
You can also just skip the wiping part and just flash the rom with Odin again. I always like to start from scratch if something goes wrong, but it should probably work without the wipe.
Then restore the apps you want to restore. Whatsapp should probably be working now.
You can spend many more hours finding a solution, but my guess is that SD-maid or Clean Master deleted something it should not have. Always be carefull with those kind of apps. I don't really like those apps because the benefit you get from them is limited.
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this happened to me once, and wasn't whatsapp only, the reason whatsapp wasn't being able to receive/send media files was because it somehow could not access the internal storage.. same with all my other apps, it happened when restoring a full rom backup with CWM.. and the only way i managed to fix it was to re-flash the stock rom with odin
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I just realized both solutions are the same, LOL.
ODIN just finished flashing the stock rom. Will update soon with the preliminary results.
Apparently it did NOT work. Not completely at least.
WhatsApp is now once again making voice recordings and receiving them as well, but is not handling any other kind of media. Mushroom Wars (the game I talked about earlier) is also not loading.
The system looks just it was before, only without root (I know that was expected).
Don't know what to do now.
Just one more question: how much of a problem is it restoring a backup using TWRP? I mean, in a scenario in which I get this problem fixed, I couldnt simply restore any backup due to the possibility of screwing my internal storage thing all over again?