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Energy Shock At The Body from MDA PRO if charging and closed

Hi All,
i have figured something out:
If i charge my MDA PRO and i touch the (RVS) solid body of it my finger gets an energy shock. I Only feel it as the MDA PRO is closed.......weird!
If I open the screen and i touch the body i dont feel it.
More of you people has felt this? (i mean if you are charging the phone and calling with it (so put the phone at your face :S) i dont know if this is normal ????
Ok that was it, just fresh figured it out so i thougth let post it......!

nobody?

What you feel is a slight static charge from the metal casing. I've had a few devices like this. I think its due to the high amount of current/voltage being delivered to the batteries.

No shock, but if you slide your finger on the shell of the device, you can feel enrgey passing through the device which is quite normal.

yeh, i get it all the time with my XDA Exec..... nasty loud snappy static shock. anything we can do to avoid it?

Wear your slippers when if you are walking on a carpeted floor. This is dangerous as it can cause damage to your data on you RAM and ROM if the conditions are right.

ok ok thanks guys so my universal is OK
i thought maybe something wrong!
OK Thanks!
ps is there an way to remove the t-mobile logo at the top (at the shock-plate hehe) without scrathing it...? And has someone done it (is there an picture available how the device looks like then?)

HELP: Battery stuck in DHD and won't slide out!

Man is this the stupidest problem ever...
The good news: I finally got my DHD yesterday...
The bad news: The battery cover is as bad as I've been hearing. For some reason I couldn't put it back on. So I pushed the Battery as far in as I could in order to put the cover on. The phone works great, but now the battery is stuck inside and won't slide out by itself and I don't know how to take it out
Please Help...

Put your fingers flat on the table, same width as the battery door.
Rest the DHD on your fingers (so that the battery door is facing the table.
Raise the DHD an inch or two and bring it down on your fingers (not so hard that it hurts).
Keep doing this, the battery will work its way free and drop onto the table.
I'll add a pic in a sec...

Thanks James, this definitely sounds very doable; I'm giving it a try now!

The battery has moved about half an inch now!! This is working *jumping up and down with joy*
I got the battery out!! Why does everyone else's battery just seem to slide out by itself? I thought it was because I pushed it too far in, but even when the battery is half way out, I still have to pull it out with some effort...
Maybe my phone just has a lot of "friction"? When I watch those YouTube videos, everyone seems to glide their fingers smoothly across the screen, but when I do it, it feels very fricative...do you guys put on hand lotion or something...

Do not press the screen too much, only a slightest touch is needed. Also if you have moist hands, it makes swiping the screen harder.

nubicurio said:
The battery has moved about half an inch now!! This is working *jumping up and down with joy*
I got the battery out!! Why does everyone else's battery just seem to slide out by itself? I thought it was because I pushed it too far in, but even when the battery is half way out, I still have to pull it out with some effort...
Maybe my phone just has a lot of "friction"? When I watch those YouTube videos, everyone seems to glide their fingers smoothly across the screen, but when I do it, it feels very fricative...do you guys put on hand lotion or something...
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Probably because its a new phone. You have to play with it a little bit until the oil from your skin lubes up the screen. Then its all slidey slides.

I had a similar problem with my first DHD... part of the the plastic wrapper around the battery had folded back on itself along the forward edge of the battery. That caused the battery to get wedged inside. A little trimming of the plastic wrapper with a craft knife fixed it... YMMV
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you sure you didnt put it back in upside down or something?

rossysaurus said:
you sure you didnt put it back in upside down or something?
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I'm pretty I didn't because the phone was working but seriously I could totally go without the cover; the battery really gets stuck in there when it's inside!

nubicurio said:
I'm pretty I didn't because the phone was working but seriously I could totally go without the cover; the battery really gets stuck in there when it's inside!
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No you can't - the WiFi/BT antenna is in that cover .

would've given you some extra grip tho
Now seriously, if when u look at ur battery there's no visible flaws that u can safely and/or easily remove and if your screen keeps giving you the finger in my opinion you should return it for a replacement. There's been enough faulty hardware cases, the folks at HTC know the drill by now. If that's not an option, sell it on ebay ( or your local online market ) and grab a new one;]

tkolev said:
No you can't - the WiFi/BT antenna is in that cover .
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And I was wondering the whole time why that piece of plastic would cost 19 Euros!
bahkata said:
would've given you some extra grip tho
Now seriously, if when u look at ur battery there's no visible flaws that u can safely and/or easily remove and if your screen keeps giving you the finger in my opinion you should return it for a replacement. There's been enough faulty hardware cases, the folks at HTC know the drill by now. If that's not an option, sell it on ebay ( or your local online market ) and grab a new one;]
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AWWW it's just my stupid, clumsy fingers are still trying to learn how to swipe across the screen...think I'm getting a hang of it now ...luckily no major flaws with my DHD so far *knock on wood*

Join the club and stay in

I got an aftermarket battery stuck in my DHD and had basically given up on getting it out until I found this thread. Nice work! Worked a treat after tapping it for what seemed like a couple of minutes.
Slow and steady wins the race!
Cheers guys

Phone getting hot + can smell something from it

I saw another thread about the phone getting hot but couldnt find it.. so im making another thread
When i play certain games the phone gets very hot near the top left.. both sides.
When i take the cover off the back i can smell something.. its not a burning smell.. iv never smelt something like this before.. its like a really.. really weird liquorice smell.
Iv downloaded some temperature apps but none of them give the correct reading.
The game i was running is "Dungeon Hunter".. i even ran an old snake game (the ones from old nokia phones) and even then it got really hot. Though most of the games i play on it the phone doesnt get hot.. just warm-ish
So i was just wondering what temperature app should i use and does your phone get really hot/ weird smell coming from it?
Thanks!
ps: even though the phone is cool now i can still smell it

mine2gets reli hot, even the footy game crashes

Im really thinking of sending this phone back now.
The smell i get off of it is not normal at all.
I get scared of the phone overheating/ burning when playing games etc..
and again.. after 1hour the phone still smells the same..

My phone got pretty warm when I played some zombie hunter and browsed the internet. After an hour the area around the lense and the screen were very warm. Though I wouldn't say they were uncomfortable to use because of it.
As for smell, apart from the new phone/plastic smel, I didn't notice anything.
My advice: if you notice weird behaviour you think can be traced back to heat, give it back. Otherwise, trust the built in safety stuff.
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were you charging the phone at the time? cuz mine gets hot when playing games with it being plugged in. there was once when the temperature shot up to 50 degree C which quickly went back to normal range after unplugging the phone.

sckc23 said:
were you charging the phone at the time? cuz mine gets hot when playing games with it being plugged in. there was once when the temperature shot up to 50 degree C which quickly went back to normal range after unplugging the phone.
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I wasnt charging my phone at the time.
also the battery is fine it doesnt get hot at all.. its just the top left of the phone.. where the CPU is?
Does any one have or know of an app that shows the correct temperature of the phone/ CPU?

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again.. any one know of an app that gives an accurate reading of the CPU temperature?

My phone got pretty hot earlier, I was playing angry birds whilst plugged in, the screen was getting very hot, the top in particular.
I use a hard-ish gel case. The one with the kick stand

It's normal for phones (especially thin ones, where the back is plastic) to get hot during heavy CPU intensive use. This is very common when charging also. As a general rule of thumb, it should never exceed a heat you can't hold. So if you are finding it really too hot to hold or uncomfortable I would definitely take it back. Otherwise, as long as it doesn't exceed 40/50 degrees, it's likely ok.
However no phone should be smelling like that! I suppose a new plastic smell might occur if it's brand new, but certainly not as you describe.
PS: Just a thought... do you have a case on it? Often, a plastic / gel case can make the phone a lot hotter and I suppose that could also be the source of the smell?

its normal to get hot whilst charging tho, i guess the phone has safty measures if it gets too hot.
Maybe its more of software fix for games rather than hardware problem, just like my pc graphics card that used to get very hot and force a restart but once a software update (firmware) came out and installed it was fine.

The CPU is probably specced for like 80C, heat shouldnt be a problem unless you place in 40C sunlight or something.
The smell is of course another matter.

I didnt have any case on it.
Iv returned the phone for now and i might wait for the iphone5
Don't get me wrong.. i love the phone but it shouldnt be getting that hot/ smell coming from it when hot.
Who knows.. i might rebuy the phone later.. but as of right now my mind is set on waiting for the iphone5.
Thanks for your help anyway =)

Did you ever smell SGS1?
If you did, is it same kind of smell or not?
It smells too really weird if you take the back cover off, really not a big issue I think.

I have the same problem when I played the Pro evolution soccer. After 3 minutes, the zone of the virtual direction pad was very very hot. I think it's a problem when we push hardly on a very thin screen multitouch like GS2. It's really a serious problem. Anybody can verify? I think this should be a sticky topic!!!!!!!!!!!
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hakkinenvthh said:
I have the same problem when I played the Pro evolution soccer. After 3 minutes, the zone of the virtual direction pad was very very hot. I think it's a problem when we push hardly on a very thin screen multitouch like GS2. It's really a serious problem. Anybody can verify? I think this should be a sticky topic!!!!!!!!!!!
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Was it the top end of the phone? If so then that's where the CPU is, so its got nothing to do with a thin multitouch screen. That area is bound to get hotter than the rest of the phone.
Problem is that everyone got their own definition of "hot". I mean, even my computer monitor is "hot" at the top and bottom while its cold at the center (backlighting heat it up). It doesnt hurt its function the slightest. Electronics do this, plain and simple.
I find it very hard to believe that Samsung could have missed heat dissipation issues, unless they never tested their own phone for a single minute.

murklor said:
Was it the top end of the phone? If so then that's where the CPU is, so its got nothing to do with a thin multitouch screen. That area is bound to get hotter than the rest of the phone.
Problem is that everyone got their own definition of "hot". I mean, even my computer monitor is "hot" at the top and bottom while its cold at the center (backlighting heat it up). It doesnt hurt its function the slightest. Electronics do this, plain and simple.
I find it very hard to believe that Samsung could have missed heat dissipation issues, unless they never tested their own phone for a single minute.
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Yes, it was the top left end on my phone. I quitted the game as soon as I realized that the phone was burning really really hot, in 20 minutes before I have to turn it off. I can't imagine a phone can be "hot" like that, it's unacceptable. Try the game Pro evolution soccer and you'll see. I'll try some more games to verify

The phone feels hot (well hotter then you would expect) when I am playing game, browsing webs or charging it. I am a little bit concerned but decided to keep the phone which is such a powerful mean machine and too good for me to let go.
I hope they do honour the two years manufacture's warranty if the phone does melt in the future.

hello1122 said:
The phone feels hot (well hotter then you would expect) when I am playing game, browsing webs or charging it. I am a little bit concerned but decided to keep the phone which is such a powerful mean machine and too good for me to let go.
I hope they do honour the two years manufacture's warranty if the phone does melt in the future.
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I haven't any problems when charging it, browsing web or playing some light games, but try to play an "extreme" game like Pro evolution soccer and you'll see

hello1122 said:
I hope they do honour the two years manufacture's warranty if the phone does melt in the future.
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If you use a custom rom or root your phone it will void your warranty so you will be left with a very nice £500 melted slab.
Problem is that everyone got their own definition of "hot". I mean, even my computer monitor is "hot" at the top and bottom while its cold at the center (backlighting heat it up). It doesnt hurt its function the slightest. Electronics do this, plain and simple
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I understand that electronics get hot but atleast a screen has air vents and because its much bigger it can spread the heat around the product.
Did you ever smell SGS1?
If you did, is it same kind of smell or not?
It smells too really weird if you take the back cover off, really not a big issue I think
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I never owned the SGS1 but at first when i bought the SGS2 i did smell it every now and then when it was warm but it didnt smell of nothing.. though when it got really hot it started to smell.

its amazing how ive played with my phone to death the last 3 days and never got hot. Maybe a little warm but nothing uncomfortable. Maybe the first batch had some defects or something but mine is running perfectly. Only problem I am having is all these damn warning signs that popup.

device heat

I've noticed that the device is pretty hot. I'm not sure, which is why I want to verify this with you.
I've used the "Battery Indicator" app which shows that the temp is 34-37 Celsius.
Does that seem about right?
Thank you

yep that's perfectly normal : )

drm111 said:
yep that's perfectly normal : )
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Really? Cause it always feels hot in my hand....
Could it be that I'm just hot (cause the weather here is hot as well)?
What would be too hot ( I mean what temperature ).
I've had the phone restart itself twice yesterday after getting too hot (don't know the temp it was at though)

matanc1 said:
Really? Cause it always feels hot in my hand....
Could it be that I'm just hot (cause the weather here is hot as well)?
What would be too hot ( I mean what temperature ).
I've had the phone restart itself twice yesterday after getting too hot (don't know the temp it was at though)
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34-37c is absolutely normal. Its quite cold where I am atm, and the battery is 37c.
You've also no idea that the phone restarted due to heat. I've gone through 5 replacements now for various reasons, and they all got pretty warm under use. However one of them got stupidly hot, so hot you couldn't even hold onto it without hurting your hand. Thats why I got that one replaced.
And yes, if the ambient temperature is hot, it'll make the phone feel hotter aswell.
None of my GSII's have ever restarted on their own though. Could've been due to an app/widget though.

There has been 2-3 threads on this, one of which I created myself.
It's normal for the device to get quite hot, especially around the camera at the back and the screen near the top of the phone when gaming or watching videos over wifi. It shouldn't get so hot it can't be held though. It also doesn't help if you have a case on the phone, especially a thick gel-type one. I'm currently looking for a thin perforated cover, like the official Samsung one, but unlike that one with protection for the top and the bottom of the device. I suspect these holes will help with heat dissipation.
The phone has inbuilt safety for overheating I believe, although mine has never gotten hot enough to activate it. The phone will shut down if it thinks any more heat will lead to damage.

Pagnell said:
There has been 2-3 threads on this, one of which I created myself.
It's normal for the device to get quite hot, especially around the camera at the back and the screen near the top of the phone when gaming or watching videos over wifi. It shouldn't get so hot it can't be held though. It also doesn't help if you have a case on the phone, especially a thick gel-type one. I'm currently looking for a thin perforated cover, like the official Samsung one, but unlike that one with protection for the top and the bottom of the device. I suspect these holes will help with heat dissipation.
The phone has inbuilt safety for overheating I believe, although mine has never gotten hot enough to activate it. The phone will shut down if it thinks any more heat will lead to damage.
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Thanks!
Was just about to ask about the case, since I bought a black gel one.
So do any of you know of a case that won't affect the heat ( a lot )?
I am honestly afraid to walk with the device without a case so that I don't break the screen (or scratch it) or break the phone in half (it looks so delicate!)

Like I said, the perforated covers look the best for preventing heat build up, although the official Samsung case doesn't protect the top or bottom corners, which perversely are the most likely parts to be damaged if the phone is dropped. I'd like to get hold of a cover that looks like that but with all round protection.

But, is it also "normal" that the phone gets incredibly hot when you play music with headphones on?
I seem to have experienced all the issues everybody went through (except for the shutdown) but nobody ever mentioned music (i am talking about 3 minutes playback not hours!)
Anybody with the same issue?

Take the back case off and smell near the top left of the phone..
When mine got hot a weird smell came from it.

It's probably worth checking with something like osmonitor that you haven't got a stuck task.
A few times mine has got really hot and it was a process using 96% cpu...
Most recently it was SocialHub which I don't even use! Had to reboot the phone to stop it as it wouldn't die.

I also had extremal heating in that area while playing angrybirds and after I move app from SDcard to internal memory - All comes OK. So I suppose it is because your apps ar data (music etc) located on SD and some of them due to speed limits heats during work. (it is in addition to WiFi and other network activity). Cause when I plug SD into comp by adapter and perform long file framsfer it also heats

So is this thing hotter than the original Galaxy S? I can live with the phone at that temp, but any higher is questionable.

It will shut down if it gets to hot. And I guess it takes quite a bit because a few months ago on engadget.com I saw some video of an iPhone a palm phone and I think a nexus one on a grill to see which one will either break or shut down first. And after like a minute on a grill it finally shut off. So I wouldn't worry about it unless its so hot u can't hold it. Once with my evo I was using 4g GPS Bluetooth. And charging the phone and it got up to around 115° (around 46° in celcius) and was fine. I shut it down tho when I noticed it got that high tho haha
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Mine (running XWKE7) went to 50 c when gaming "we rule" in game hub with charger plugged in. No external SD installed though.

Also keep in mind that fatter phones have more space to dissipate the heat. This phone is thin thin. That heat has to go somewhere! That's why I want a case that vents
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Only charging... No more words to say...
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I think my phone is sometimes very hot.But after I have ROM KE7 I think is better.
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as soon as I start playing "real football 11" i can essentially cook an egg on the phone. Other games are fine though

Could it be due to the installation of overclocking apps? Didn't notice it was this hot during my first few days of usage.

In the first few days after I got my SGS II the phone went really very hot every time I charged it or when I played a game or even when I watched a movie.
Since I use Lite'ning Rom and banned some system apps the problem vanished.
So for me it seems to be a software-sided problem.

Battery/Phone Getting Very Hot

Hey everyone -
Not sure if you've experienced this but I have the At&t HTC One 32GB model and I noticed that it heats up when watching videos or even downloading something. It gets over 100F as I have a battery monitor which informs me and I feel how uncomfortable it is. anyone else expericing this and maybe we'll need to root and Use Set CPU to add a profile which underclocks the CPU when it goes over 90 or something like that
I could just have a faulty device but i've read a few articles where people mentioned this but it doesn't get much attention -probably because people don't wanna bad mouth the phone so to speak. who knows
Maybe a Kernel and software update will help along with battery drain.

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Hey everyone -
Not sure if you've experienced this but I have the At&t HTC One 32GB model and I noticed that it heats up when watching videos or even downloading something. It gets over 100F as I have a battery monitor which informs me and I feel how uncomfortable it is. anyone else expericing this and maybe we'll need to root and Use Set CPU to add a profile which underclocks the CPU when it goes over 90 or something like that
I could just have a faulty device but i've read a few articles where people mentioned this but it doesn't get much attention -probably because people don't wanna bad mouth the phone so to speak. who knows
Maybe a Kernel and software update will help along with battery drain.
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Your not alone I experience the same thing.

I have the same issue, I just use the phone in the official flip case and that stops it hurting haha

i guess its not common one i got 2 from letstalk 64gb dev and they are great, maybe try to get replacement oh and both were made around 04/15 according to the serail info thread

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i guess its not common one i got 2 from letstalk 64gb dev and they are great, maybe try to get replacement oh and both were made around 04/15 according to the serail info thread
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Yes according to some posts I read the April phone batches fixed the heating issue.

iraqgsm said:
i guess its not common one i got 2 from letstalk 64gb dev and they are great, maybe try to get replacement oh and both were made around 04/15 according to the serail info thread
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well that's awesome.. hopefully other's who are having the issue can get a fix. not good

The heat is normal, you will find that the SoC can safely go up to 60 degrees Celsius and possibly more. The reason you feel it is due to aluminium being very good at dissipating the heat and as your hands are touching the metal, they conduct that heat
Its really just a case of either getting a case/cover. OR hold the device with two hands with the bottom of your palm (wrist end) pressed into the two sides of the phone (landscape) This way you get minimal heat to your hands and the device can cool itself as more air will get to the back

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The heat is normal, you will find that the SoC can safely go up to 60 degrees Celsius and possibly more. The reason you feel it is due to aluminium being very good at dissipating the heat and as your hands are touching the metal, they conduct that heat
Its really just a case of either getting a case/cover. OR hold the device with two hands with the bottom of your palm (wrist end) pressed into the two sides of the phone (landscape) This way you get minimal heat to your hands and the device can cool itself as more air will get to the back
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sounds great but it even heats up when the case is on it.. all phones heat up but this is pretty hot. i bet if they did that melting butter experiment with this chip, it will melt with absolutely no problem lol. this may sound strange but sometimes when im holding it and its hot, i use my mind and it cools down off and on.. goodness knows i be trynna make that work because i know how everything is really connected but yeah
hope they address this somehow
thank you for your response and others

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sounds great but it even heats up when the case is on it.. all phones heat up but this is pretty hot. i bet if they did that melting butter experiment with this chip, it will melt with absolutely no problem lol. this may sound strange but sometimes when im holding it and its hot, i use my mind and it cools down off and on.. goodness knows i be trynna make that work because i know how everything is really connected but yeah
hope they address this somehow
thank you for your response and others
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Yeah its just due to the metal honestly. In plastic phones the area where the SoC is gets extremely hot and just as unbearable to touch. BUT as this is an aluminium unibody the heat spreads all over. The reason I said to hold the top and bottom of the device where the speakers are is because there is a plastic strip separating the middle piece of metal from the two sides, meaning these sides are cooler to hold.

Yes, mine one can get quite hot especially when I play game. However one the other hand, I find it cooling down extremely fast comparing to my GS3 which does take time to warm up also to go back to comfortable temperature.
Must due to the aluminum back which transfers the heat faster than plastic.
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In my experience, gets One XL got noticeably hotter than the One when performing the same tasks.

Everyones heat tolerance is different. Phone gets WARM when im watching video. Couple minutes later it's not hot. So it's definateky not a issue.
Plastic insulates the heat, aluminum dissipates heat. No brainer here
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expertzero1 said:
Everyones heat tolerance is different. Phone gets WARM when im watching video. Couple minutes later it's not hot. So it's definateky not a issue.
Plastic insulates the heat, aluminum dissipates heat. No brainer here
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How is the heat when using the browser for extended amounts of time?

darkgoon3r96 said:
How is the heat when using the browser for extended amounts of time?
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Im usually on my pc when browsing .
Only times my phone was warm is when im downloading a huge file , music streaming and web surfing at the same time, and YouTube videos. To the point of where omg it's hot af, nope. Havnt had the chance to play games yet, damn them midterms
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Metal conducts the heat but can also conducts the cold.
Let my phone in my cold bedroom during the night and took it in the morning it was like the phone was left outdoor

darkgoon3r96 said:
yes according to some posts i read the april phone batches fixed the heating issue.
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even the battery charge dont take as long as some people mentioned here

I found mine to get really hot as well, just by surfing on wifi.
I thought it was normal, and still do, but if anyone here has One's that don't get hot at all, please tell, cause then I'm gonna get a bit concerned.

Apoxx said:
I found mine to get really hot as well, just by surfing on wifi.
I thought it was normal, and still do, but if anyone here has One's that don't get hot at all, please tell, cause then I'm gonna get a bit concerned.
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hot as in too hot to touch?

darkgoon3r96 said:
hot as in too hot to touch?
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Nope, but hot as in making my palms really sweaty after just a few minutes use.

Apoxx said:
Nope, but hot as in making my palms really sweaty after just a few minutes use.
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Previous posters hit it right on the head. The aluminium body acts just like a heat sink sucking moving heat from inside out and then your hands act like an insulator keeping the heat there. The OG Droid did the same thing. It's just part of having this design. Keep in mind though it does an excellent job of stopping your phone from hitting critical internal tempetures.