The subject says it all - can anyone give some statements regarding the speed? My Magician has all of it's programs (well, almost) in the hacked ExtStorage space and I am not too sure but it seems some of the software is a bit slower to get going. Nothing you can measure with a stopwatch, just a odd feeling. Anyone know about this? Is the Flash memory chip slower or something?
Yes, Extended ROM is slower than RAM
Hi there,
Extended ROM ( ROM Storage ) access is faster than SD Memory Card, but it's access is slower when compared to RAM.
When a program, which is installed in Extended ROM (ROM Storage ), is made to run, it has to be loaded in the RAM first, that is why it feels a bit slow.
Hope this helps
regards
clueless
I noticed in every rom I used that after a while (like half a day) the free memory of the PDA gets drained. For example after a soft reset and with all my software loaded for good, I have 24 MB free but after 6 hours I ll have 17 MB free.
I use the FREEupRAM from sktools and it frees some ram but not all.
firiel said:
I noticed in every rom I used that after a while (like half a day) the free memory of the PDA gets drained. For example after a soft reset and with all my software loaded for good, I have 24 MB free but after 6 hours I ll have 17 MB free.
I use the FREEupRAM from sktools and it frees some ram but not all.
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Which ROMs and which Radio ROMs specifically. I had had problems with many ROMs - but am running MARY 1.2 and have no memory drain issues.
ROMS : mun's LVSW, AXEL, MARY, INDIGO ... many many more, all with the same issue. I think its a windows mobile issue or something that occurs on every rom.
RADIO : 1.38 - 1.46 - 1.50
Well with the lVSW rom, which does not have HTC Home, I did not have any memory drain.
However with the AX3L, Mary, Mun Indigo Full, using the HTC Home Plug, I had serious memory drains as described above from our friend firiel.
When I disabled the HTC Home pluging and operated them on the standard Today Screens with only SPB Weather programm running, the memory leak was minimal i.e from 24 to 21 in a period of three days.
I believe the problem is not on the ROMS but on the HTC Home plug, and maybe we need to know if it is the case with people who have the original Touch device and the Kaiser, if they also experience these kind of memory leaks.
Generally these user friendly animated programms drain down the memory, I had the same problem with the spb mobile suite application.
Maybe it will be fixed in the future
I do use the spb mobile suite, I ll try uninstalling it workaround and report back
A friend having a trinity with wm5 running exactly the same programs installed as I does not have the same issues even with SPB Mobile suite, so the problem is in only on wm6
I have a DoPOD d810=Trinity running WM5 and have the same problem, SKTools also doesn't revive the Memory to the full SR status of >25MB.
Does anyone know of a small utility that can revive the Maximum Memory without having to do a SR??
Hi,
I've noticed that over the course of a day, the memory consumption of the HD increases substantially... going up from about 30% to over 60% if I use it heavily. I imagine it has something to do with the different caches and the tweaks I've run (found on the forums) to increase performance. Is there a way to flush all caches so that I don't have to reset the device?
Thanks!
I'd like to know if anyone else is having this problem too.
After a fresh reboot my memory usage is about 30%. By the time Gyrator and TouchFlo restart it gets to about 40% where it stays.
However once I start using programs it will easily skyrocket to about 70%. Even if I close all the programs using taskmanager I will never recover more than about 2-3% of memory.
i use memmaid to free memory from time to time, but i we also backup a request for something that automaticly do that
shadow option for sktools made my hd to stuck so i rennounced to it
any ideeas?
now i don't know if this can affect battery performance but with computers the most efficient system is NOT the one with a lot of free ram, is the one that USES it totally... virtually having always ram at 99% would mean maximum performance... In other words: why do you want to flush the ram
This can not affect battery performance at all.
And it's totally normal to use ALL ram.
I guess you people grew up with normal Windows, that frees ram...
For example Linux has always used 99% RAM on your pc. It just uses all the free RAM as cache! So when there is more needed, it deletes some cache and allocates that RAM.
It is bad, very bad to waste memory by not using 100%. Using all memory for cache and only giving memory when it is needed is good for performance.
If you look at Vista, it does the same thing...
So it is normal behaviour, especially when you set all the caches high.
I use the SKTools application "FreeUP RAM" which does a sweep of RAM and normally saves about 5-10 mb.
BUT, I find I rarely need it as I don't seem to have any memory leak except with TomTom running.
i am not sure i can follow you
if i understand well, linux keem memory ocupied in order to fully use the whole capacity
but is not the case of windows, and sure is not the case of windows mobile
in my device, diferent processes and application take a slice of memory and does not release it even when you close them
so you end with a memory occupied 60, 70 even 80% despite the fact that you have nothing obviously running
because of that (not having enough free RAM), when you launch a new application, the HD became very slow or even stuck
correct me if i am wrong, but this is what i have noticed during the years of use of windows or windows mobile.
i am not computer literated so i might be wrong, though!
I also raise this problem here before, most expert's advise is that WM will manage memory itself, it is not necessary for us to do anything!!
I had tried to use memmaid, but it only free up 1-2M memory.
Back to the time when I use D810, if there are few MB left, I can't launch new application. Even when I close some and make free RAM left to 16+ MB, that program will still report out of memory........the only thing I can do is to soft reset.....
HD's RAM capacity is much better, but as time goes......maybe this problem will also happen!?!?
Sorry but not convinced. I agree that when in use 70-80% memory usage is not a problem. But when there are no programs running, then there is no reason to use ram.
Also on my previous wm6.1 device when you closed items in task manager it would restore ram. Sure not all of it but a good chunk of it. Heck, even on my previous HD using the task manager would free more ram.
The only thing that I can see that is different between my previous HD and this one is Tweak HD and the TouchFLO Calender. So I will try removing those first and see what happens,
Eventually, after flashing Laurentius's ROM, the problem went away almost completely. Have to say my memory usage is pretty stable now, at around 40-45% even after a day of full application and web use.
dunno personally i'd love to have a superfetch feature like in vista which keeps ram full
Higher memory usage causes minimal/neglectable effect on power consumption, RAM is powered as a whole, fractional/partial modes (where only used memory cells are powered) are not available on modern RAM chips. The CPU or DMA controller may use more power swapping memory data in and out as memory usage grows, however the increase is nothing in comparison with what the LCD backlight or loudspeaker would use.
I don't know what memory allocation method is used in Windows CE/Mobile, but regardless, being unable to start a new application while there are no other applications running in the background means that physical memory is depleted and this is not normal. OS may use RAM for caching/buffering to optimize performance, however memory allocated for optimizations should probably be released when it's required for other purposes. If this is not happening, than either OS lost track of allocated/unallocated memory or memory allocation approach is very inefficient and causes high fragmentation.
Here's a list of tools (for WinCE) that may also work on WinMo and help curious xda-devs figure out what's eating their memory...
http://blogs.msdn.com/ce_base/archive/2006/01/11/511883.aspx
This has been puzzling me for a while now, i have tried a number of wm6.5 roms on my HD but i still cannot say if its at the point where you can use it long term. I was wondering what everyones else views were?
Yes it does work,it is usable and there is a slight memory increase. Is it the CPU or the amount of memory which slows down this os on the HD?
Has anyone been using a 6.5 rom longer than a few weeks without power cycling the phone? I cannot work out if i need to keep on power cycling it to free up resources because windows is being windows or if its the actual phyiscal phone lacking resources.
I seem to have a slight issue after 5 days of use on wm6.5 my resources stick at around 60 -70 and never fall. If i am on a wm6.1 i get 35 - 50
as title.
O2 with 6.1 is very stable with constant free ram.
after upgraded to 6.5, the ram drops drastically and didnt recover after switching of the program
its very annoying that i need to restart the phone more than twice a week.
Just want to clarify whether its a kernel problem of WM or the problem of Samsung devices
its not a memory leak. wm 6.5 caches frequently used data so to give better performance. unfortunately if there isnt enough ram you are stuck when your ram available is low. blame the manufacturer not the operating system.
so do you mean HTC do better in making devices' memory management?
I just want to know whether it is the case for all 6.5 devices
The O2 is not running very stable. I'm developping on it and constantly need to soft reset. Often I also get out of memory messages. I have no problem with any HTC device no matter if they run on 6.1, 6.5 or 6.5x....