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I want to start this threat to put together information in order to sort out why the device lock delay (see below) appears and how to solve it.
wm6.5 device lock app has changed from "tap here and next there" to a slider style like app you know from s2u2.
problem:
device lock is enabled
Code:
HKCU\ControlPanel\BackLight\AutoDeviceLockEnable=1
wake up the device by short pressing the power button
device lock screen is displayed instantly
it takes ~2 seconds until the slider of the device lock screen is activated and can be slided.
if you use device lock it becomes really annyoing.
there are some threads about this like this one, but the solution is not working on a Touch HD.
can anybody sched some light onthe problem why and where it appears or maybe someone already found a solution.
please post any useful information.
please do not post tips like use s2u2 or any other locking app - I do not want to use them.
the only thing i can thing of is use s2u2 or any other locking app
egoist6 said:
please do not post tips like use s2u2 or any other locking app - I do not want to use them.
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cookiemonster55 said:
the only thing i can thing of is use s2u2 or any other locking app
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cookiemonster, either you didn't read his post or you're a sort of a jerk.
And yes, in response to the poster, I have the same problem.
Zoltair Wright said:
cookiemonster, either you didn't read his post or you're a sort of a jerk.
And yes, in response to the poster, I have the same problem.
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latest build 23001 still has this annoying delay
Iv noticed this too... The biggest annoyance for me is you turn the device on and the backlight isnt very bright, makes it near impossible to see the screen in daylight. Is it possible to have the backlight come on full when you press the power button?
i have this problem too. i think it is a serious bug of wm6.5
just hoping it will be fixed when the official release come out.
god i thought i was the only one, something about my config...
and i was exited about the new 6.5 lock screen,
but then it works like all the other M$ 6.5 sh!t, it doesn't
had to switch away from it
May be this help you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=527219
A1983 said:
May be this help you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=527219
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thanks for your help - but that was the solution i am talking about in my first post and unfortunately does not work.
also find this intensely annoying! if you look, on my hd, in the top left corner a small windows flag appears to indicate that the slider is locked, it disappears once the slider is active, and there is a definite exact time out, i dont think its random or a load time
hope this is sorted cos its rubbish!
regards
mat
What I've done that got rid of most of the delays regarding the lock screen on my Xperia:
I got 6 cpr files from my device's /Windows directory: LS_LockScene_xxxxxxx.cpr, LS_AlarmScene_xxxxxxx.cpr and LS_PhoneAlertScene_xxxxxxx.cpr. Get files that fit the resolution of your device, they are in pairs for portrait and landscape
opened each one of them in a text editor (they are XMLs inside)
removed all "ControlSequence" sections from them (those sections are small (like 4 entries) and big (up to 21 entries). These sections are animations of arrows. Arrows will still be there after that, they just won't animate.
uploaded cpr files back to /Windows, overwriting originals
soft-reseted.
Hope it works on your devices too
lemat1 said:
also find this intensely annoying! if you look, on my hd, in the top left corner a small windows flag appears to indicate that the slider is locked, it disappears once the slider is active, and there is a definite exact time out, i dont think its random or a load time
hope this is sorted cos its rubbish!
regards
mat
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yeah. and with 6.5 23003 onwards in the top right corner an "X" (for close) appears. only when it goes off you can access the slider.
it seems as if an app is started.
pikipirs said:
What I've done that got rid of most of the delays regarding the lock screen on my Xperia:
I got 6 cpr files from my device's /Windows directory: LS_LockScene_xxxxxxx.cpr, LS_AlarmScene_xxxxxxx.cpr and LS_PhoneAlertScene_xxxxxxx.cpr. Get files that fit the resolution of your device, they are in pairs for portrait and landscape
opened each one of them in a text editor (they are XMLs inside)
removed all "ControlSequence" sections from them (those sections are small (like 4 entries) and big (up to 21 entries). These sections are animations of arrows. Arrows will still be there after that, they just won't animate.
uploaded cpr files back to /Windows, overwriting originals
soft-reseted.
Hope it works on your devices too
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great. that helped a lot!
now the lock screen is flickering shortly and the whole lock screen slides in once more from the bottom to the top but then the slider is instantly accessible.
from a time perspective a great improvement!
update:
basically you can delete the whole layer
Code:
<Layer ID="SlidePath" >
...
</Layer>
which removes the animation of the arrows and the arrows themselves.
do not delete this section if you do not know in which direction to slide the button
however, the delay is still ~1 second. but i think i can live with that allthough it is annoying to wait one stupid second to proceed
the delay you get when recieving a call with lockscreen on is caused by the slide to answer feature of alot of the new dialers. it conflicts with the popup call answer screen with wm 6.5. to fix this can find a dialer that doesnt have slide to answer feature. the backlight problem came from backlight.dll in the kaiser, using a new one from stock rom now and it works perfect
If you enable the enter a pin number after slide, there is no delay at all. I know this isnt a solution i hate entering a pin. however, i have a felling the pin app is running in the background and thus you dont get the flicker where it flicks from Start menu back to the lock app. Hence if you could create a dummy pin app, it could work to stop the delay.
twopumpchump said:
the delay you get when recieving a call with lockscreen on is caused by the slide to answer feature of alot of the new dialers. it conflicts with the popup call answer screen with wm 6.5. to fix this can find a dialer that doesnt have slide to answer feature. the backlight problem came from backlight.dll in the kaiser, using a new one from stock rom now and it works perfect
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thanks for your reply. but i also have the delay when simply waking up the device by pressing the power button (without receiving a call)
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If you enable the enter a pin number after slide, there is no delay at all. I know this isnt a solution i hate entering a pin. however, i have a felling the pin app is running in the background and thus you dont get the flicker where it flicks from Start menu back to the lock app. Hence if you could create a dummy pin app, it could work to stop the delay.
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that's true. i replaced LS_SimplePinScene_480x800.cpr with an empty one and allthough not using pinlock, the lock app did not work at all.
What if we designed something where when you slide it calls a mortscript or something and enters 0000+OK to by pass the pin screen (assuming you set pin to 0000). Then you edit the Pin screen so it is just a clear page, so you dont even see the pin screen flash up.
Not sure if this is at all possible as im not a programmer. Just a thought
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What if we designed something where when you slide it calls a mortscript or something and enters 0000+OK to by pass the pin screen (assuming you set pin to 0000). Then you edit the Pin screen so it is just a clear page, so you dont even see the pin screen flash up.
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good idea. maybe someone can change LS_SimplePinScene_480x800.cpr so that it does not expect the pin from screen but is embedded directly into the cpr file?
can anybody who has a better understanding of cpr files or the lock app give us some tips?
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Not sure if this is at all possible as im not a programmer. Just a thought
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me neither
Is there a simple way to force the default "Slide to Answer" interface even when the phone is not locked (In WM6.5)?
I have not had much luck with searches regarding this concept here or on ppcgeeks.
Thanks,
Chris
hmmm.... you mean besides pressing the green key?
:S
I think he wants the new slide to answer screen that comes up when the screen is locked in wm6.5.
This could be very cool...any ideas?
WM6.5 always slide-to-answer
If you don't use WM6.5 lock-screen it'll take a while to start when a call comes, that's why I prefer S2U2 (besides the Tachi dialer).
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WM6.5 always slide-to-answer
If you don't use WM6.5 lock-screen it'll take a while to start when a call comes, that's why I prefer S2U2 (besides the Tachi dialer).
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thank you very much
Kamill said:
WM6.5 always slide-to-answer
If you don't use WM6.5 lock-screen it'll take a while to start when a call comes, that's why I prefer S2U2 (besides the Tachi dialer).
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Yes the first time the built in lock screen is brought up since boot it will take a few secs. After that it is fast. Another was is smart lock:
http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2009/06...-of-your-default-windows-mobile-6-5-lock.html
Set it to lock on incoming call. Also, it would be a good idea to make it lock at boot so that the delay from the first time lock is gone after. Set it to lock on out call and call connected also and you get a very cool in call screen.
Does this work in conjunction with HTC Phonecanvas? or is it incompatable? Because I thought there was an issue with the Lockscreen and Phonecanvas.
Usually when a call comes and the phone is inside the pouch (good for protection), there are several ways of messing up by accepting or rejecting the call even b4 its completely out of the pouch as blelow:
On screen:
1) U can press the on screen message but which will send an auto sms to the caller and end the call
2) U can press the answer key
3) U can press the ignore key
Off screen (hardware)
4) U press the answer key
5) U can press the end key
Incredibly, all 5 options are simultaneously active. The screen can be locked by S2U2 etc. but I cannot find any option of locking the hardware keys.
Any help will be appreciated
Firstly thanks for Omnia i8000 support on XDA..
Now I feel secure..
Secondly even I'll lyk to disable my hardware keys for call ans/end..
is there a registry tweak or something we can do to disable it..
s2u2 has that option... go settings/phone and u have S2A Hard ans/end key...
Search 542482 - there's an app for that over in the Mobile Apps & Games forum
Solution found!!!!
The issue was really troubling me and I finally found a solution. Install a small program called Incall lock which locks the call & end key. But that will totally disable u from accepting calls under WM6.1. So install s2u2 and enable screen response and voila!! U have. Both these are available elsewhere in this lovely forum.
Note:- The whole process during inplementation is quite messy as u will first have to install .net compact & samsung SDK software (both freely available).
4 software to do a simple thing which should have been taken care of by the OS. That's life under our billy, the goat.
Hope this help. I would be glad to give something back to this site, i have greatly benefited from.
TouchLockPro works great.
(I can't post a link yet...search for it in the Omnia 2 section at Modaco).
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TouchLockPro works great.
(I can't post a link yet...search for it in the Omnia 2 section at Modaco).
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I tried tpro but it did not work for me. I am using wm6.1 under samsung touchwiz. Cud it b because of that ?
TouchLockPro is the answer, however, if both touch screen and the keys are locked on all in-coming calls, how the hell do you answer the phone? First to unlock it then answer it? A bit troublesome.
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TouchLockPro is the answer, however, if both touch screen and the keys are locked on all in-coming calls, how the hell do you answer the phone? First to unlock it then answer it? A bit troublesome.
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See, even if no software was there u wud have to press a key or tap something to answer anyway. With S2U2 and incall lock, the only point of access is the slider (in my case) with which i can either accept or reject calls. So if i swipe to ans, the lock opens and i can straight away start talking. So there really is no extra step involved. Whereas, if I do not lock the key, I will have to be careful not to press the keys accidentally which is difficult as I often put it in my pocket and more so inside the pouch. I think the swipe to answer is the killer option.
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See, even if no software was there u wud have to press a key or tap something to answer anyway. With S2U2 and incall lock, the only point of access is the slider (in my case) with which i can either accept or reject calls. So if i swipe to ans, the lock opens and i can straight away start talking. So there really is no extra step involved. Whereas, if I do not lock the key, I will have to be careful not to press the keys accidentally which is difficult as I often put it in my pocket and more so inside the pouch. I think the swipe to answer is the killer option.
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Slide to Answer is great option to traditional Click to Answer, that is very true, however, that option has been adopted in 6.5 and some 3rd parties phone app as well, so if in i8000 case, the phone interface can be omitted and use the 6.5 or simply use those better and more feature phone apps
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Slide to Answer is great option to traditional Click to Answer, that is very true, however, that option has been adopted in 6.5 and some 3rd parties phone app as well, so if in i8000 case, the phone interface can be omitted and use the 6.5 or simply use those better and more feature phone apps
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Well, as I said I hv 6.1 & 6.5 not yet available in my country. so...
Hi,
I installed Throttle Lock.. Nice lock... it has slide to answer..
secondly it does not interfere with the touch player, lyk s2u2 does..
Are you using Omnia II with WM6.1 ?
Because throttle lock is not saving the settings on my phone. And yes, I am clicking the "ok" button at the top right and getting a message "changes saved". And my slide to answer is ON but no slide is displayed. All I can see is the default lock screen which opens when I click on a button on screen but that certainly does not solve my problem. Using ver .07 (latest).
I have even registered myself. Hell, the config.xml file shows Calllock is on but its not even locking when the call comes. That should be the very basic default function. Sorry, back to s2u2.
I am using WinMo 6.1 original Rom...
I installed it on Storage memory.. and its workign fine.. It does interfere with the Samsund dialer when the call comes in... but I will try disabling the samsung dialer and check... back to your issue.. Try re-installing it.. and it should work.. iam able to save all my settings..
And when the call comes in My hardware keys are lock as well and I get option to Slide to Answer or reject..
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I am using WinMo 6.1 original Rom...
I installed it on Storage memory.. and its workign fine.. It does interfere with the Samsund dialer when the call comes in... but I will try disabling the samsung dialer and check... back to your issue.. Try re-installing it.. and it should work.. iam able to save all my settings..
And when the call comes in My hardware keys are lock as well and I get option to Slide to Answer or reject..
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Thanks. I unistalled S2u2 and installed again. Still no. Yet the program was working when I clicked on it. So, luckily having some working knowledge of windows, I found that the program is not putting a link in the start menu or start up folder. This I had to do manually. But thats unclean.
And what happens when a call comes is funny. There is a brief fight between the throttle default , the windows splash & the lock screen itself. Luckily, the lock screen is winning every time. But again unclean or is it the links I have placed.
Currenly, I have links to both thottlelock & throttlelockdemon in the startup & lockdemon in the start menu. How is it with u?
Also in the setting under samsung default setup, the options like lock mode & incoming are white on white. What are your current settings ?
Think this program was designed for HTC. But is definitly smaller and though not neat...working. Thanks
I have mapped it to a hardware key, so when I want to lock I press the hardware key..
Aafi-rocks said:
I have mapped it to a hardware key, so when I want to lock I press the hardware key..
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Use incall lock for locking the keys when call comes. Works perfectly.
Tried the throttlelock for 2 days. Sometimes, the default wm screen was coming up and the look is messy. So more experiements......but till date s2u2+incall lock looks the cleanest. Will keep looking...
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TouchLockPro is the answer, however, if both touch screen and the keys are locked on all in-coming calls, how the hell do you answer the phone? First to unlock it then answer it? A bit troublesome.
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I'm using TouchLockPro. It's much faster and less memory consuming than S2U2 and it has multiple ways to unlock your phone!
In the newest version, you can unlock your phone by using the proximity sensor (and our Omnia II has one )
So if your phone wakes up in your pocket our pouch, it won't unlock, but if it wakes up in your hand or on your desk, it will unlock immediately!
Consequently, if you have an incoming call and the phone is in your pocket: It will remain locked until it's out of your pocket so you don't have to manually unlock before answering
I love it!
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I'm using TouchLockPro. It's much faster and less memory consuming than S2U2 and it has multiple ways to unlock your phone!
In the newest version, you can unlock your phone by using the proximity sensor (and our Omnia II has one )
So if your phone wakes up in your pocket our pouch, it won't unlock, but if it wakes up in your hand or on your desk, it will unlock immediately!
Consequently, if you have an incoming call and the phone is in your pocket: It will remain locked until it's out of your pocket so you don't have to manually unlock before answering
I love it!
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I hv omnia 2 with wm6.1. Tried touchlockpro and was absolutely useless. How is it possible ?
Can u plz put in the download link.. Iam sure its somewhere on XDA itself, but I am kinda lazy to search today.... I'll download it once I reach home..
currently when i get an sms i have to:
-press a hard key
-unlock the slider
-press the message tab
-then when i get to messages it isn't set to the latest message it is set to the last message checkeds
-then i have to scroll to message 1
coming from android that is a lot of button presses. in android you could actually read the first couple of lines from the lockscreen. is there a way for me to reduce the button presses?
Install S2U2.
S2U2 will be able to display the message on the screen (while the phone remains locked).
Do you have win6.5 lock enabled? when you get a message it should have a message slider and if you slide that it will automatically take you to the sms tab (or email tab if you got an email or missed call tab if you got a missed call or.....)
Set titanium as home screen then after unlock hit text.
Or you could:
-press a hard key
-tap the slider
-unlock the new slider which pops up
should take you directly to your new message.
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Or you could:
-press a hard key
-tap the slider
-unlock the new slider which pops up
should take you directly to your new message.
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Bingo!
dislabled said:
Or you could:
-press a hard key
-tap the slider
-unlock the new slider which pops up
should take you directly to your new message.
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this takes me to the messages tab, but it does not take me to the latest message. it takes me to the last message i checked when i was in that tab so i still have to scroll once.
i will check out that s2u2 and report back.
ok so i downloaded s2u2 and love the functionality of it. i hate the fact that it looks like iphone though i wish it were more original looking. or even the same but a different colorway, especially in the message bubble that pops up. but hey, it was free and works great so thanks for suggesting it.
much better than the stock lock screen for sure!
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ok so i downloaded s2u2 and love the functionality of it. i hate the fact that it looks like iphone though i wish it were more original looking. or even the same but a different colorway, especially in the message bubble that pops up. but hey, it was free and works great so thanks for suggesting it.
much better than the stock lock screen for sure!
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There is a disturbing amount of themes for S2U2, if you don't like the stock one (which does mimic the iphone alot) you should look at the other ones.
Svegetto said:
Do you have win6.5 lock enabled? when you get a message it should have a message slider and if you slide that it will automatically take you to the sms tab (or email tab if you got an email or missed call tab if you got a missed call or.....)
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How do I enable this, I've seen the message slider in other peoples screenies, but I'm not sure how to enable it.
Many thanks
install the hd mini unlock screen, shows most of the message when you wake up the phone with out having to slide to unlock
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How do I enable this, I've seen the message slider in other peoples screenies, but I'm not sure how to enable it.
Many thanks
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You just click the slider instead of sliding it. It obviously only works if there's something to show you.
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You just click the slider instead of sliding it. It obviously only works if there's something to show you.
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Yeah but at the moment, message or missed call, these icons on the lock screen don't show.
bump, thanks for any pointers
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Yeah but at the moment, message or missed call, these icons on the lock screen don't show.
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So I understand, after a missed call, email sms etc. do you see a number on the unlock slider? If so, and you tap the unlock slider, you should see one or more notification sliders pop down. Are those not appearing? If that's the case, have you ever installed anything intended to modify the lockscreen in any way?
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So I understand, after a missed call, email sms etc. do you see a number on the unlock slider? If so, and you tap the unlock slider, you should see one or more notification sliders pop down. Are those not appearing?
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No unfortunately.
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If that's the case, have you ever installed anything intended to modify the lockscreen in any way?
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Yes I have (See screenie), but even before this change I've not had the other icons come up. I've always wondered how I could get them to show up since having the phone.
I'm on Orange network (UK) and on official 1.66 rom.
Thanks for your help.
LOL, it has a little number "1" on your slider, lol
just tap that a$$
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LOL, it has a little number "1" on your slider, lol
just tap that a$$
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Still nothing, that screenie was taken after tapping
It's not important, it would just be nice.
well it is displaying right. normally you would just touch the slider instead of sliding it and a secondary slider would appear, but if that is not happening for you i don't know where in the settings to enable/disable it.
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Still nothing, that screenie was taken after tapping
It's not important, it would just be nice.
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I can't imagine why it's not working. I've attached a cab with the original lockscreen files. You may try installing it and see if that works. Outside of that, you may have a reg setting inadvertantly changed somewhere.
@methodz: Are you still using S2U2? If not, or you go back to the oem LS, I think we can take your original question one step further (literally). Not sure if you've seen this, but you can change the commmand of the notification slider to go directly to your email inbox instead of the manila tab, or have the sllider actually call your voicemail directly instead of taking you to the dialpad. I dunno about sms as I haven't tried it, but either way it may worth looking at the bottom of this post here by Da_G: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4268138&postcount=3. It will require a tad of registry editing, but for me it's worth it. Less steps to get to things.
I have not seen it in the forums...
How can I only answer a phonecall by sliding and not pressing the green call button on the farmost left?
My phonecalls keep getting answered whilst in my pocket!!
GeSte said:
I have not seen it in the forums...
How can I only answer a phonecall by sliding and not pressing the green call button on the farmost left?
My phonecalls keep getting answered whilst in my pocket!!
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Try TouchLockPro and S2U2 and see which one your prefer. Also Vangrieg incall control.
S2U2 is the best option for this, it's free and has an option to deactivate all hard buttons with a slide to answer and full screen caller ID. As mentioned above you can also try TouchLockPro but, despite being smaller, I find S2U2's option list and features to be superior. Pocketshield is another option but that's commercial, I bought it a few months back and used it for a bit but eventually went back to S2U2.
Adding another vote to S2U2 (pick up from ac-s2.com).
GeSte - this also gives you the ability to lock phone on answer depending on profile (sort of) which will save those embarrassing `conference international friend into the middle of a work call` experiences that plagued me a couple of times before discovering the application.