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Hello everyone!
I'm new on this forum and I've only read TONS of useful information till now...Few days ago I bought an HTC Touch device and immediately I flashed its ROM with a new one found in this *** WONDERFUL *** site
Well, in the past I developed some (stupid) applications for Windows in several languages; then I discover the "pocket-pc" world and began to have to do with it! One night I was reading about a feature of a developement-version of a well known browser and WOOOOOOOW!!!! "You can perform several actions, like scrolling, panning, zooming...only by moving your phone!" The software use image-processing algorithms to recognize your gestures ...only using the built-in camera!!!! No accelometers needed...
Something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3pVaEVHpvI
Now, image-processing algorithms are not too difficult to implement...but how can I get access to the built-in camera on my Htc ?!? I tried to search all over the internet, and in this forum too...but I found only few things about HTCCameraAPI and many other programs and their dlls. I cannot believe there's no way to have access to the camera!!!
HELP please!!! this "project" could be very interesting!
One thing is sure - it _can_ be done, and it can work really good, even on weak hardware - look at this:
http://rivia.net/Fishopolis.aspx
I just tried the demo and i was amazed how well it worked on my wizard (especially considering its crappy camera), even in less than perfect lighting conditions (incadescent light). No overclocking required.
Also, from what i've seen WM7 is going to use the camera-based gestures too. So, anyone willing to beat M$ to it and develop a camera-based ftouchflo-like app?
I've looked at the libs, and I've even dabbled in the source, and this is my next project. Like I said, we know it can be done, it's just a matter of doing it. Obviously though, I've got to finish off PocketMelody etc. But it's my next move, once no one beats me to it . And personally, I hope someone does! It's not THAT hard.
Welcome to the forums gregnapola!
This website hepled me choose my very first PPC Phone 18 months ago and helped it become the best little device I own. It just keeps getting better and better with tools such as FTouchFlo, PocketMelody and Picture Flow, and I look forward to this feature onMY HTC Hermes!
Shows how much really can be done with this WM platform, all you need is developers with imagination and talent (and all the other things that go along with it like coffe and donations and and respect on the forums ).
Thanks guys.
maybe we would have some1 develop a program that automatically changes portrait mode into landscape by jus rotating the camera..hey u never kno..this is XDA-DEVELOPERS..
Sounds awesome and would definitly love to see this done. Just a quick question about it. Would it be a big battery drain to have this running all the time?
hebrewhammer said:
Sounds awesome and would definitly love to see this done. Just a quick question about it. Would it be a big battery drain to have this running all the time?
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Considering that you're not rendering anything to the screen, it's at least safe to assume you'll be using A LOT less power than if you were walking around with your camera application on all day .
Thank you for your replies...
I've just installed the demo version of "Rivia Fishopolis" to see how well can it work but it doesn't run it because of an unknow security-error
Now, I found a lot of useful camera-based applications, but they'll come in the future - I'm talking about WM7 gesture-based control, NetFront 3.5 or EyeMobile Games by GestureTek...but all I really need is the way to capture frames by my Elf camera; code samples in any Visual Studio language with HTCCameraAPI, or any other lib...
any update?
I'd also love to substitute my D-Pad for a Camera-based Motion Tracking system
No Dev takes this challenge?
gregnapola said:
Thank you for your replies...
I've just installed the demo version of "Rivia Fishopolis" to see how well can it work but it doesn't run it because of an unknow security-error
Now, I found a lot of useful camera-based applications, but they'll come in the future - I'm talking about WM7 gesture-based control, NetFront 3.5 or EyeMobile Games by GestureTek...but all I really need is the way to capture frames by my Elf camera; code samples in any Visual Studio language with HTCCameraAPI, or any other lib...
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I resolved your error assigning owner information (all). But camera feature seems to not work on my trinity...also the d-pad can't move the cursor...is there anyone with same problem?
thanks
Would it be possible to have it access the front camera too and switch of the LCD when you're talking on the phone? Something like what the iPhone does to save battery.
christiankirana said:
any update?
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The only update is that my elf was stolen about a week ago...and so...I cannot do anything at all!!! So sad....
gregnapola said:
The only update is that my elf was stolen about a week ago...and so...I cannot do anything at all!!! So sad....
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That's really stinks!! I hope you can get another one. Sorry to hear the news.
Chris
Im trying to use Fishopolis on my phone ( an HTC Wizard) but i keep on getting some kind of weird security error.
Any ideas why im getting that error and how to fix it?
doesn't seem to work with the camera on the Hermes...hmmm
Looks like we will have to wait until 2009 for WM7.
wouldn't it consume a lot more battery if camera is always on.
just my thought
I think this is a cool idea and I think I mentioned this somewhere else in this forum, but if this could be done, it would be cool if one could use the camera of there phone, link it via bluetooth and use it as a mouse for a laptop.
Just thinking outloud.
lol, some interesting ideas.
Docnas, refer to post by cf222111:
I resolved your error assigning owner information (all).
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Mariner_heart, refer to post by thundershadow_14:
Considering that you're not rendering anything to the screen, it's at least safe to assume you'll be using A LOT less power than if you were walking around with your camera application on all day .
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Hi does anyone extracted the photoviewer application that is there in the diamond main screen which has a finger scrolling option for HTC touch devices.. This looks awesome.. check the screenshot below and the video here.. Sorry I searched a lot for this, but no luck.
Sorry if it is a wrong thread.. Please feel free to remove it if not appropriate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gccIfCpygiY
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Hi does anyone extracted the photoviewer application that is there in the diamond main screen which has a finger scrolling option for HTC touch devices.. This looks awesome.. check the screenshot below and the video here.. Sorry I searched a lot for this, but no luck.
Sorry if it is a wrong thread.. Please feel free to remove it if not appropriate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gccIfCpygiY
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look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396910
Sorry this doesn't have Diamond like photo viewer
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look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396910
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Thanks Radical. But I have tried this, it doesn't give the option that we get in this viewer.. It's Photo contacts is very good and it's like Diamond one, but not the photo viewer. I am really looking for the one in the video.. It's really awesome, you can use the finger scrolling from the main screen to swipe thru the photos.
It is most likely that your device won't support it anyway... TouchFlo 3D is very graphics intensive...
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Thanks Radical. But I have tried this, it doesn't give the option that we get in this viewer.. It's Photo contacts is very good and it's like Diamond one, but not the photo viewer. I am really looking for the one in the video.. It's really awesome, you can use the finger scrolling from the main screen to swipe thru the photos.
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Try EyePhoto, it has pretty neat thumb sliding for viewing capabilities.
http://palm-pocket-pc.handster.com/software.php?id=2188&for=Palm+Pocket+PC
look for htc album. that is what is in the diamond.
there should be a qvga versin available.
Thanks guys
Thanks guys for all your help in providing me with so many options.. I tired all the links you have suggested and most of the applications posted in XDA.. Thanks to all the developers and contributors for the lovely softwares.. Almost all the softwares worked in my phone & I love them.. But still none of the Picture viewer softwares gave me the function that I have seen in the video.. I will keep trying it.. I am pretty sure that someone will come up with this.. I will wait... again I appreciate your help
rxyamaha said:
Thanks guys for all your help in providing me with so many options.. I tired all the links you have suggested and most of the applications posted in XDA.. Thanks to all the developers and contributors for the lovely softwares.. Almost all the softwares worked in my phone & I love them.. But still none of the Picture viewer softwares gave me the function that I have seen in the video.. I will keep trying it.. I am pretty sure that someone will come up with this.. I will wait... again I appreciate your help
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Twolf is trying to do somthing simillar.
See utube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xvCwxhvTQw
Posted here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=403706&page=33
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Twolf is trying to do somthing simillar.
See utube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xvCwxhvTQw
Posted here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=403706&page=33
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Actually i did a test like that for pictures first, but it isnt very usable.
I think that feature in Daimond is just to show, not really to use regularly. I prefer the Camera album to view pictures because you can see all the photos in a list and then choose from one.
It can easily be done in flash but the finger motion effects have a problem with the current 'players', if you press the screen and dont release it for a second only, it pops up the "about flash" window.
Still, if you use simple buttons instead of finger motions, like I did for my flash contact list, all you need is a ouside program to list all the images in \storage card\my documents\my pictures (or whererver) to a xml or txt file, then the flash would read all the picture names as variables and present them in that kind of slideshow (or even better animations, like 3d cubes turning or fade-ins) . Do remenber that the 'photo turn 3d effect' would slow things down.
So, depending on the speed of the pocket pc model it would be slow, it isnt very slow on my dual because it has 400 mhz, but there are a lot of models out there with 200mhz...
Also, for some reason, the flash lite engine works faster but has more bugs reading images than the flash 7 engine. :/
And then it comes back to the today plugin, the only good current one is from the Throttle author but it only has one hardcoded size, he is doing a better one, and THAT one I cant wait for... it sounds as good as melted cheese!
That's exactly what I am looking at.
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Actually i did a test like that for pictures first, but it isnt very usable.
I think that feature in Daimond is just to show, not really to use regularly. I prefer the Camera album to view pictures because you can see all the photos in a list and then choose from one.
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IT's wonderful work twolf, and that is exactly what I am looking at... Will it be possible to post a cab file of the one in the video.. So that I can test and use it on my phone.. I have seen your website and is pretty impressive.. Will it be possible to share the work that you have done here.. So that all of us can enjoy it..
Thats not dependant of me, just of the trotthle author, sorry, like I said I gave that to him.
But after he releases his new plugin, I'll be sure to make a lot of flash goodies for everyone, always releasing the sourcode, because, as I said, I'm a iilustrator, not a programmer, and Im sure others can do so much more.
thanks Twolf
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Thats not dependant of me, just of the trotthle author, sorry, like I said I gave that to him.
But after he releases his new plugin, I'll be sure to make a lot of flash goodies for everyone, always releasing the sourcode, because, as I said, I'm a iilustrator, not a programmer, and Im sure others can do so much more.
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Thanks Twolf.. I tried this before and I am trying the Tempus V13 now..It works perfect, but the till still skips by 1 sec every 2 secs and becomes very slow during skip.. And also takes lots of memory around 3-4 MB on my HTC Touch... Which is a lot for my phone.. . is there is a work going to reduce this... I can't wait !!! for Throttle author to release new version.. ..Tempting
Actually the skipping is good, it does skip sometimes but thats my way of making sure the time is always correct. Otherwise the minutes could change before the seconds reached 59.
The slowness is really because of the 200mhz of the touch, sorry...
As for memory, thats flash...
Maybe in the next version of throttle since the weather and clock are separated and in flash lite, they may become faster, time and tests will tell.
Thank you Twolf
Thanks Twolf.. This is a great application and I am currently trying Throttle launcher works great on my Touch.. Thanks for all you guys work.. Fantastic... Hope to see more from you.. thank you..
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2636915#post2636915
Reincarnation!
lol... fun program ...
Nice work!
I don't know if, when, where I'm gone use it ...
Looking forward to future apps from you...
awsome!!! all it needs it "its good but its not right!"
all i can say is youtube!!! loads of stuff on there!
loads on here:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSm5kGpWnsM&feature=related
Hehehe,, GREATTTTTT!!!!!!!!
fabulous!! a real candidate for my start menu!!
heh yeh thanks for the comments.
I thought it was pretty good fun . But as I say I don't think the missus was too impressed. I'll get some more samples from youtube and add them in. (Thanks for the link jameslovell)
I really want "Say what you see" and "its good but its not right".
I think half the problem of programming in my own time is thinking of apps to write!
looking forward to the extra sounds!
more Catchphrase sounds (+others)
http://chrismoyles.net/mw/soundmachine.shtml
Yeah i had a look at those, they dont sound right though. Sounds like it isnt roy.
Nice
would it be possible to extend this app to allow users to create and choose soundschemes?
There used to be one on the smartphone which was a great laugh
http://www.modaco.com/content/smartphone-software-applications/117105/spvnoisebox-updated-03-12-v0-9-2b/
I'd be happy to make some themes to share
Sound Effects, Drum Machine, Sirens, Excuses, Ventriloquism
Yeh totally, i will have a proper look into when I get time (hopefully this weekend).
Sounds like a plan, set of audio files and a configuration file with them. I'll get on it!
Interesting app you posted a link to, does it only work on smartphones then?
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I have just recently received a shiny new HTC Diamond Touch, after a day or so of having it I thought it was time to create an application. This is what the few minutes during my lunch break at work came up with.
A Catch Phrase sound board! Only 4 samples unfortunately, you wouldn't believe how hard these audio samples are to find.
I can't believe how much fun I have had clicking the Wrong buzzer whenever my girlfriend asks me a question!
Enjoy, the start of many applications to come I hope.
Requires .Net Compact Framework 3.5
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Any screenshots?
No screenshots for the moment as the old application was just a test, hacked together in a lunch break.
I am working on a much improved version, all is going well and I should release something this week or this weekend. Unfortunately my free time is lacking at the moment.
The new app will be completely configurable and provide the ability for user created content in the form of button and image themes... all will be explained when I release it.
Thanks.
looking forward to it!!!
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No screenshots for the moment as the old application was just a test, hacked together in a lunch break.
I am working on a much improved version, all is going well and I should release something this week or this weekend. Unfortunately my free time is lacking at the moment.
The new app will be completely configurable and provide the ability for user created content in the form of button and image themes... all will be explained when I release it.
Thanks.
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Take your time of course and glad it's on the way. Thanks for your time and hard work as always.
I don't understand how this will work, or is it rom dependant? I can't play any sound when I'm on the phone. Tried the app, but can't hear anything. Same with wmp and tf3d player.
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Interesting app you posted a link to, does it only work on smartphones then?
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Sorry for the late response, you probably know the answer by now ..
It runs but will only play sounds on the d-pad, other sounds were assigned to the keypad.
Touchscreen is so much better ! and the vga resolution deserves to be used to full effect.
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I am working on a much improved version, all is going well and I should release something this week or this weekend. Unfortunately my free time is lacking at the moment.
The new app will be completely configurable and provide the ability for user created content in the form of button and image themes... all will be explained when I release it.
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Excellent news
No need to rush it, I presume you mean we can change the sounds, not just the buttons and images for Roy
I'm looking forward to it.
Many thanks
Some thoughts ...
It would be really nice to use animated gifs as buttons, that appear to 'play' when activated.
Perhaps it could use the g-sensor a bit like the lightsaber toy - assigning your own sound to a 'shake'.
during a call, could you shake the phone to play a sound that the caller would hear ?
"... must go, there's somebody at the door." <SHAKE>
! DING DONG !
Hi,
Is it possible for someone to supply the Buzzer sound as a wav or MP3 File. My Girlfriend has been using my phone, found this damn program on it, and after several hours of messing with it, now wants the buzzer sound as her message alert tone.
Ive searched the internet where i can, and cant find it. If anyone has it or it can be extracted from the program, or be supplied by the creator, i would be very grateful!
Sean Saunders
Sure here are the sounds
Sorry for the late reply.
View attachment snds.zip
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DEVELOPMENT HAS STOPPED! Microsoft released a Facebook application which far surpasses anything i could have done. Please use that app for all your facebook addictions. It does not have Facebook chat but you can use Palringo for Facebook Chat. I've been using it for about a week now and LOVE IT! Thank you for all your support. It was a good learning experience for me!
Inspired by the other development efforts on here, I started developing my own version a facebook application.
As promised, another beta. This one including a VGA line.
See Second Post for Features and change logs
Directions:
You need .net cf 3.5
Unzip, Start app, Login and enjoy
BOTH FILES INCLUDED IN THE ZIP NEED TO BE IN THE SAME DIRECTORY!!! If you want to make a shortcut, make sure you make a SHORTCUT of the .exe and don't just copy the .exe alone
(Please not that it does take some time to first log in to facebook (some times up to 2 minutes). We are working on this issue and will hopefully reduce this time as much as possible.)
wFacebook is now full screen. To exit you must do the following:
QVGA: There is an exit button on the Home Screen (temporarily placed here)
VGA: There is an exit button on the bottom bar
NEW PICTURES COMING SOON!
Hope you guys enjoy and I will be updating this regularly. Planned features include facebook chat and other goodies. Stay tuned.
Thanks go out to the people that have helped me (in no particular order):
Bis
Scilor
The creators of the facebook library
htctoucher
unknowndev
giannis86
Change Logs/Features
Beta 1 (initial) - 01/16/09:
- View your profile (no info, just layout)
- View your wall
- Update your status
- View your friend's list
- View a friend's profile (no info, just layout)
- View a friend's wall
- Post on a friend's wall
Beta 2 - 01/17/09:
- Implemented saving exceptions to the application's directory (Exceptions.txt)
- Fixed a few bugs with friend's list
Beta 3 - 1/26/09:
I'll update this tomorrow. Need sleep now.
Reserved for future
Reserved for future
Interesting facebook apps are popup everywhere! I am going to check this out and report back.
Am I missing something? Where's the link?
is there gonna be a vga version too?
Sorry forgot to attach, lol. It's up now.
Giannis86 said:
is there gonna be a vga version too?
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Yes there will be. As soon as I can get some graphics, I will release one for QVGA, VGA, and WVGA.
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Yes there will be. As soon as I can get some graphics, I will release one for QVGA, VGA, and WVGA.
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Thank god. The other app doesn't work too well (hardly at all) on my Fuze.
sammypwns said:
Thank god. The other app doesn't work too well (hardly at all) on my Fuze.
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+1 Please graphic designers help the dewd out
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+1 Please graphic designers help the dewd out
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I am admittedly very weak in the graphics department. I want to make this look like what the Windows Mobile Community wants.
I am getting help developing new controls that will provide a more intuitive User Interface. Stay tuned everyone. Big things are happening. There are a decent amount of people behind this project and together we can get something very good out. Maybe start a whole series of wSomething products
i am willing to help with the graphics designing..id like to make sure that this thing works on vga though..the other application doesnt work at all on my touch pro..
just tell me the formats and size (both VGA and QVGA...i can make them in VGA first and then downscale to QVGA so that no quality is lost) of those images and i'll do my best
edit..i tried the qvga version and it does work up to one extend but the layouts are messed up
anyway let me know if you would like some help for the images
iv used a lot of photoshop tutorials recently to learn a lot of things.. here are a few icons i made recently
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=456440
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3173420&postcount=1236
does this need to be authorised on facebook? if so do you have a link?
i have installed on my diamond to test (i know the graphics will be out) and am currently passing 7 mins for first logon.
that can't be right can it?
ps this looks very promising, keep working on it looking forward to seeing the vga version working
Chris
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does this need to be authorised on facebook? if so do you have a link?
i have installed on my diamond to test (i know the graphics will be out) and am currently passing 7 mins for first logon.
that can't be right can it?
ps this looks very promising, keep working on it looking forward to seeing the vga version working
Chris
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It does not need to be authorized. Please exit and restart the application. I have noticed a bug where if you recieve a call or text when it is connecting, something goes out of wack. Exit and restart and it should connect just fine. It does take a bit to connect but never that long.
I would be willing to help you with graphics just let me know and I'll whip some up for you
Ok just tried this app ( I can't get the other one to work at all on my wizard ) and unfortunatly when I try signing in it gives me a really long error message something bout system.indexoutofrange exception or something like tht
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Ok just tried this app ( I can't get the other one to work at all on my wizard ) and unfortunatly when I try signing in it gives me a really long error message something bout system.indexoutofrange exception or something like tht
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Is this right after you were logged in? Which button did you press? I will be uploading another version shortly that copies the error messages so you guys can attach here.
The most important thing is funtionality so I will be tackling these issues right away so any directions you can provide about what you did to get the error would be extremely helpful (if I can't reproduce it, I can't fix it).
Since facebook can be user customised with various applications and stuff, replicating an error might now always be feasible. Plus handling someone with a few thousand friends (yeah right ) could be troublesome.
Maybe for the first versions you can add a full debug log? Before every major function call you can write to file the arguments you are using (or at least a note of you are going to do). It might be slow(er) from a user perspective, but could make your life and debugging *much* easier.
As with the other Facebook application here, this one logs you out of facebook from other machines/devices when you log in with this app.
Hello dear HTC Leo Community
i'm facing a really annoying problem and so far the google results didn0t give me an answer.
Does anybode has the same problem or had the same Problem and know how to fix it?
The Thumbnails in my HTC Album are shown very very very crappy
i still have the original rom installed.
if i click on the pictures the quality in fullscreen is normal but all my thumbs are really ****ed up
would be glad if someone knows whats to do i already searched the registry but ididn't found something which is pointing on this setting
thanks in advance
cheers rob
You must install the official camera patch provided by HTC on their site. It will fix the thumbnail preview as well.
Or update your ROM to the latest one as this includes the hotfixes...
i now installed the hotfix and it didn't work the thumbnails in my htc album are still the same
has anybody eventually the correct link with the file i'm not sure if i picked the right one.
and another question, when i update my rom what happens woth the software like cookie home tab or these things?
thanks and cheers
rob
When flashing a new ROM, stock or otherwise, it'll wipe all programs/apps on the device so either back them up or remember how you set it up in the first place
so i don't want to flash the rom
cuz most of the apps i isntalled on the storage card but all shortcuts will be gone
the rest i yould easily backup
can you please post the link to the correct htc album patch? i didn't found it
would be very nice
thank you and cheers
rob
robsterr said:
i now installed the hotfix and it didn't work the thumbnails in my htc album are still the same
has anybody eventually the correct link with the file i'm not sure if i picked the right one.
and another question, when i update my rom what happens woth the software like cookie home tab or these things?
thanks and cheers
rob
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hotfix does not correct old thumbnails.
after hotfix, all new thumbnails will look perfect.
Hotfix is out 3 months now, why did you not applyed it till now?
Hi!
Does this also fix the crappy quality of the pictures in picture contacts?
The faces have a very poor quality (pixellation, not defined) although the source pictures have an excellent quality and are big.
Thanks!
because i've got the phone only 2 weeks
but thanks for the information then i clearly will aplly the patch again
thanks for the information =)
cheerio
ps: can i change the setting that i can switch the musicsongs with the vol up and down buttons?
all the time when i want to switch song i have to get the phone out my cover then unlock and then go to the music tab
and another issue
is it possible to configure the device, so it wont stop the song playing when you disconnect the jack?
hello community
i now applied the patch
and the pictures seems to be a little bit better, but still not shown absolute correct in the thumnails
before it was really poor in quality means you could saw some pixels and no clean transition
now i can remark some stripe pixels its really weird but i will keep an eye on it
thanks anyway
robsterr said:
i now installed the hotfix and it didn't work the thumbnails in my htc album are still the same
has anybody eventually the correct link with the file i'm not sure if i picked the right one.
and another question, when i update my rom what happens woth the software like cookie home tab or these things?
thanks and cheers
rob
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Your old thumbnails will remain like that, new ones wont. I learnt that yesterday!