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Keeping wifi from turning off?

quite possibly a silly question
Is there a way to keep it from disconnecting when the phone goes to sleep?
Because if i want to keep bejive on, when i wake up the phone it tries to connect through 3G...
oh and.. in a related matter, is there something i can do so it asks me if i want to connect to 3G, instead of just connecting automatically?

mesaboogie said:
Is there a way to keep it from disconnecting when the phone goes to sleep?
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get schaps advanced configuration tool link
in the tool click menu>more settings>connections>Enable wifi on standby mode.
click ok > done. reboot the device. that's it.
wifi remains active when the phone goes in standby.
(when the phone is set to blank screen mode wifi turns off anyway. this seems not to be configurable.)

I think is easier to unthick to turn off screen....Or to dimm light after few second unthick both battery proprties advanced,....
Hope you get it

*Why* does ActiveSync stop the screen turning off??

I can half understand ActiveSync not letting the D2 going into standby but why does it insist on keeping the screen on? It's one of the things that slows down charging of my D2 when in the cradle - the screen is consuming power just a little bit faster than it can charge.
Also, why can't ActiveSync also let the unit go into standby? There are obviously things that can wake up WM out of standby (like an appointment reminder) so it should be feasible to configure ActiveSync to sync ever 30 mins like one can do with out of the cradle. It would wake up, do a sync and then go back into standby.
Or is ActiveSync just functionally lacking? Any better in WM6.5?
Cheers, Rob.

Hello, there's a setting somewhere where you can set how long the phone screen is on when 1.) using battery power and 2.) when charging. I think the default for charging is to always leave it on.

Littlescott is right - go to start - settings - all settings - system - Power - Advanced and set yor preferences on turnish screen off at specific intervals.

vijaydesor said:
Littlescott is right - go to start - settings - all settings - system - Power - Advanced and set yor preferences on turnish screen off at specific intervals.
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That's already set but ActiveSync overrides it.
Cheers, Rob.

munrobasher said:
That's already set but ActiveSync overrides it.
Cheers, Rob.
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I used to find that activesync would wake my jasjam up every few minutes after i had put it into standby mode (pushing the power button). Can't remember if the diamond2 does it too but it's not a problem anymore as I always set it to diskdrive mode when I connect it so when I put it into standby mode it stays there.
This probably isn't so useful for you if you need activesync to do it's thing but it works fine for me when I just need to charge

littlescott said:
I used to find that activesync would wake my jasjam up every few minutes after i had put it into standby mode (pushing the power button). Can't remember if the diamond2 does it too but it's not a problem anymore as I always set it to diskdrive mode when I connect it so when I put it into standby mode it stays there.
This probably isn't so useful for you if you need activesync to do it's thing but it works fine for me when I just need to charge
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Yes, the Diamond 2 can connect in disk drive mode (which makes it a USB disk drive but only the memory card) but as you say, it disables ActiveSync which I do need, not constantly.
Cheers, Rob.

[Q] Data does not sync while hd2 is on stand by

I have setup the phone to sync weather for example every half an hour. If the phone is on stand by it does not sync. It is as if it turns off the data connection. Any help would be appreciated.

Any ideas? It will only sync when the phone is awake and unlocked? If the phone is locked it doesn't sync

Im surpriesed nobody can help with this!

You are certain it is only the weather that is not auto updating?

sharkie405 said:
You are certain it is only the weather that is not auto updating?
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That is the only thing I have noticed so far.

No help at all? Basicily data does not sync at all when the phone is on stand by. It is as if the data connection disconnects. I cant seem to work out how to "keep it alive" Any help would be appreciated.

GhostXSeries, what activity do you expect from your phone in stand by (sleep) mode?
Sleep mode also called "standby mode" is an inactive state of the device that is quickly brought back into action by touching any keyboard key or pressing the on/off switch. It is used to save battery power.
In sleep mode the screen is turned off, all system processes are suspended (including data transfer), and the CPU is throttled down to its lowest power state - no activity. However, all instructions and data still reside in memory, and dynamic RAM memory chips require power to hold their content.
So what kinda sync do you want to have?

AndrewSh said:
GhostXSeries, what activity do you expect from your phone in stand by (sleep) mode?
Sleep mode also called "standby mode" is an inactive state of the device that is quickly brought back into action by touching any keyboard key or pressing the on/off switch. It is used to save battery power.
In sleep mode the screen is turned off, all system processes are suspended (including data transfer), and the CPU is throttled down to its lowest power state - no activity. However, all instructions and data still reside in memory, and dynamic RAM memory chips require power to hold their content.
So what kinda sync do you want to have?
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The main one I would like to have updated is the weather. I do not see the point of being able to set the weather to automticly update every half an hour if the phone does not do it while in stand by mode. If I turn the phone on and update maually it works fine. Is there any way to sort this?

My phone will automatically update itself if the set amount of time as passed while it was in standby mode. Meaning, if I set it to autoupdate every hour and I've had my phone in standby mode for 2 hours, when I wake it up, it will automatically sync the weather and any other data that should have been syncing during it's standby phase. Does your phone not do this as well?
There is also an app called "Screen Off" which will ONLY turn off the screen and not put your phone in stand by mode which means that all data and such will continue to function while your screen is off.
Oh and I was waiting on a definitive repsonse to the "only weather" question I asked. Obviously, just your weather not updating properly and ALL your data not updating properly are two very different problems.

I did not read the first post carefully. So you mean - the system timers do not work properly - they don't wake up your phone from standby for weather update?

I have mine set to do the same, but fo example for again the weather, I have it set to update every 1 hours, when I leave the phone on overnight and check it in the morning it does not update untill I press the manual update button.
Say I had the phone updated at 11pm and put it on stand by, check the phone at 8am the last update time was 11pm. It will stay at 11pm and only when I press the update button does it then update. It is not an overly big thing but I am under the impression that If I set the phone to update every hour even if it is on stand by or not the latest it should be behind is 59 minutes!

Tasker setting for battery saving

Hi,
I thought that I could use Tasker (https://play.google.com/store/apps/...EsIm5ldC5kaW5nbGlzY2guYW5kcm9pZC50YXNrZXJtIl0.) to save battery life. So, what I did was to prepare the following profiles:
a) Disable autosync, enable it to 3 minutes every 30 minutes. Sync only between 6:30 and 23:05.
b) Enable autosync while on AC power, disable when not.
c) Disable wifi, enable it for 15 seconds every 15 minutes so the system would have time to connect to a known wifi if available. Then disable wifi unless its already connected.
d) When a wifi connection starts, do nothing. When it gets disconnected (like when I leave home), disable wifi.
I only use EDGE. I only sync gmail, contacts and calendar.
Before this, I had autosync and wifi on all the time so I believed this setting should conserve battery. Everything works, Tasker app itself is not draining much from the battery (according to Betterbatterystats its really negligible) but still, I have a considerably higher energy loss than with default setting.
Do you know whats the reason for this? Is is caused by the wifi enabling and disabling - taking more power? Is it caused by the fact all sync gets done at the same time? Or why is that?
Im generally happy with the Nexus S battery life but this outcome makes me curious ...
EDIT: My advanced wifi system setting always was "never disable wifi when screen is off". Also, for the purpose of this test, I disabled wifi AP on my router to check just for the outcome of the wifi search.

Check out your Awake time (can find this in BetterBatteryStats), you'll probably notice the phone stays awake for longer than it would normally. Normally the phone would go into a practically permanent "sleep" state, powering nothing but your radio, when the screen is off and doing nothing. It would just wake up every X minutes to autosync or for other alarms (exchange sync, etc) and then go back to sleep. I wouldn't be surprised if it is solely the wifi option.
Depending on the advanced setting in the wifi options, it keeps the connection indefinitely or drops it after a certain amount of time, i think around 15mins - 30 mins. This may need to be changed to fit the circumstances.
Overall though, benefiting from the use of Tasker or similar program for battery life purposes doesn't gain much over what android already does (albeit still with alot of room for improvement).

Well, I should've mentioned this: My advanced wifi system setting always was "never disable wifi when screen is off". So thats not possible reason.
Also, for the purpose of this test, I disabled wifi AP on my router to check just for the outcome of the wifi search.
I basically believed that before, the phone had wifi on and checked around every now and then. And with the new setting, it would check less often, therefore saving battery.
Awake time is about 40 minutes in 7 hours sleep.
EDIT: Maybe it would help to adjust the times better.

does your clock reset of you take out the battery (with get network time unchecked)

If I don't select to get the network time, my time is wrong when I take out the battery...

Sorry to dig this thread out.
YES IT DOES and IT'S STUPIDLY ANNOYING!!!.
Sorry for the CAPS, but I am beyond this. My phone is set to get the time through the network and I use 2 batteries that I charge on the cradle, I never charge the phone through its USB port unless really needed. I usually change my battery late at night as it holds a full day of work, so I am usually at home using airplane mode + home wifi, and every frigging time, it will reboot with the last known synchronised time AND DATE!!!!.. I also have a smartwatch connected and use it as a secure device to unlock my phone and because the bluetooth is ON by default as I reboot, it will mess with my smartwatch time/date, which in turns makes it forget fitness data on the current day.
After a few minutes over the wifi, the time will correct itself..
BUT it is very very very annoying. I had a few time already, the phone could sync the time, but my smartwatch remained unsync and my silent alarm was wrong.
Also, if the date was different and if I have an alarm set daily, it will go off (especially if the time sync takes too long to happen).
So... is there anyway to manually force the phone to synchronise the time, I could do that before I power it off. I tried to change the date and take the sync the time again, but it has been more or less successful. Does the network has to be on for this to work?
Is there a way to prevent the phone to turn on with the bluetooth on? (I think it's because it's looking for my watch)