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i guess i did a warranty job and the phone got sent to my old adress and thing is i dont live there anymore and i told them so they refunded me momney so i wouldnt have to pay them back and they sent me another phone for free. anyways i go back to my old house just to say hi to friends and stuff and i see that my phone that they sent was there its a 8525 so now i have an extra 8525 can they track it down if i use it ?

They could if they really wanted to. But do you think they'll go through all that trouble just for you ? lol Doubt it...

i work for att... so Mike we know now....

lol i was just saying shogun im not actually saying it happened more like a wat if

alleyezondisromo said:
lol i was just saying shogun im not actually saying it happened more like a wat if
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but if you will be more than happy to ship it to me i will pretend it never happened

alleyezondisromo said:
i guess i did a warranty job and the phone got sent to my old adress and thing is i dont live there anymore and i told them so they refunded me momney so i wouldnt have to pay them back and they sent me another phone for free. anyways i go back to my old house just to say hi to friends and stuff and i see that my phone that they sent was there its a 8525 so now i have an extra 8525 can they track it down if i use it ?
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So you ordered a phone, and initially thought it never came. Then you called and said, "Hey, where's that phone?" They said, "Sorry. We'll send another one."
Now you are basically saying, "Thanks AT&T for being so helpful and sending me a replacement phone. Now that you were so helpful, I will keep both phones and really give you the shaft for being honest."
Having two phones, you now wonder if you can get in trouble. Well, let me put it this way: if AT&T was to find out you have both phones, they might think you lied to them in an attempt to steal a phone from them. Most people and most businesses wouldn't respond too well to this.
The ethical thing to do is exactly what your question asks when reading between the lines: Should I keep what doesn't belong to me?
If you have to ask, you probably already know the answer.

Whatever...I worked for at&t for a year...nothing ethical about that company. I say keep it and be happy.

Answer is yes they could find out whos SIM is in the phone with that IMEI... Unless you use that program floating around and change the IMEI haha.

alleyezondisromo said:
lol i was just saying shogun im not actually saying it happened more like a wat if
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"More like a wat if"?
Strange, because you've offered to sell this phone to another member here already. You might want to get your story straight before Mark comes knocking on your door looking for his "kickback".

Isn't that like stealing more than half a thousand dollars?
I mean, Don't get me wrong, but you could let them know you moved, so they can send the phone to the right place.

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You might want to get your story straight before Mark comes knocking on your door looking for his "kickback".
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Im on it

surrept said:
Whatever...I worked for at&t for a year...nothing ethical about that company. I say keep it and be happy.
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You're probably right. But at the same time, is it worth the trouble and worry? Even if AT&T isn't ethical, does that mean you shouldn't? It's all about how you want to live your life.

Got my phone stolen.

just felt like sharing.
I got my phone stolen on the train!
I as talking on the phone when my friend call, and the perp just snatches it from my hand!
I have the remote protect program installed on my phone and I still didn't get any txt yet.
I hope I get the txt soon.
I also have google latitude installed. but I think it only updates when the app is running right?
I don't really care about the phone. but i just want these perps caught!
My phone is very unique, cuz i used putty to mod the D-pad.
I wonder if they will sell it on ebay or something.
or maybe just toss it.

what country?
I doubt they would sell on eBay, ppl who snatch phones would not have a pc even lol. seriously.

It happened in NYC, USA
they were a bunch of teenagers.
so who knows...

I really hate criminals like these guys.. I used to be a care free kid until that day i got mugged... I was just walking listening to music, and without knowing, I walk into a group of black kids who shove me to the floor and steal my ipod and cellphone. Iam really cautious now whenever i go out. Like if i ever see some thugs coming my way i'll take the long way just to avoid them. And i rarely take out my ipod/cellphone when iam out alone.
Anyways, hope those dicks get caught. You did call the cops right? They usually dont do anything, but when enough crime reports occur they'll do something.

Yea, i called the cops and filed a report.
thats the only way I can get them if i do get the txt.
If i don't, then getting that txt won't do anything.
I got mugged more than once before. and I'm also careful.
but sometimes, **** just happens anyway.
Still no sms from the preps sim yet. so they prob just using it as some PDA or they hard reset it.
I gotta change all my email passwords now.
Im kinda pissed i didn't get the txt from remote protect. I want to hard reset my phone remotely. I got photos of family and my address(if they read my emails) in there.
the detectives said they prob have them on cam, so I'll be going in to tomorrow check it.
I don't want the phone back, I just want those bastards caught!

Well that's good to hear. Yeah, i feel the same way you do, stuff can be easily replaced but knowing those little ****s are still out there just makes me pissed. Hey, tell us if they ever catch them okay?

Man, that sucks! Personally, I would like to get my hands on people like that!
My problem is, if something like that happened to me, someone would be going to jail/hospital. It might be me, but they wouldn't forget about trying to take whatever it was, at least one of them would be hurting.
I probably shouldn't be that way, but it goes right through me. Thieves are the lowest scum possible.

Well not the lowest scum, i can think of waay worse.
I mean professional lifters are 'theives', muggers are standover violent thugs!

Well not the lowest scum, i can think of waay worse.
I mean professional lifters are 'theives', muggers are standover violent thugs!

normally well where I'm at when you get your phone stolen you report it to the cops
and give them the imei nr
which they then put on the block list of all the phone companies in the country and other countries they have arrangements with
and the phone can't be used with any sim card

Really sad my friend, sorry.... any message yet?

Update:
Cops says theres nothing they can do about it.
the phone can't be found
Thanks.
I was thinking of getting another 8525, but I think i'll wait till the Fuze gets cheaper.
I think i'll go for the Dash as a temp for now.

can't you give the imei no. to cops to blacklist the phone? I mean this is the whole reason imei's exist!

yes it did, but it's not going to do anything.
I still prob won't get my phone back. lol

Aww, it really sucks to hear that. Cops usually dont help much when it comes to crime like these. Anyways atleast you can finally upgrade from the 8525.

Luckiest Android User Ever

So I was helping a customer today (I'm a Tmo Employee) with their rate plans and then started talking to him about some phones. Well he pulls out a Nexus One out of one of the stock N1 pouches and told me he FOUND this (who the hell finds free stuff like this?!) and wanted to check if it was a Tmo or ATT version because his internet wasn't working. I verified it was a Tmo version and it wasn't working for him because he had the Blackberry internet on his plan. When I asked if he wanted to change it he was like oh no I like my Blackberry. Then here is how the next part went.
Guy: Do you know anybody that would want to buy this?
Me: As a matter of fact, I'll be glad to take it.
Guy: How about $200?
Me: How about I go to the ATM next door RIGHT NOW!
So now I'm the owner of another N1 so this one goes to my GF. Buuuuuut the best part is, it isn't just the normal one. This one has the picture of the Android waving a flag on the back with no HTC branding. Hmmmmmmm...
Just had to share this. Was too excited about it not to! lol

Just bought your self a brand new stolen ('found' is an alternative word for stolen) N1 Concrats! It's the best device with Android!

so let me translate for you.
This guy steals an N1 and brings it in to your store and asks if you'll pay him $200 for it and you say yes.
Got it...

You sound like a goddamned thief to me.
Disgusting.

could easily track down the original owner in minutes...
but my question is, why is there an android flag and no htc branding? Is it a special phone?

Alclub said:
could easily track down the original owner in minutes...
but my question is, why is there an android flag and no htc branding? Is it a special phone?
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...Search and you shall receive...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=680179&highlight=android+flag

Alclub said:
could easily track down the original owner in minutes...
but my question is, why is there an android flag and no htc branding? Is it a special phone?
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I'm thinking it could be a Beta phone or something? Looks like one of the ones that Google employees were given and were not supposed to "sell" BUT I have heard of some that have been "lost" from employees and were bought from people. But the phone had no SIM card and looked wiped when I got it. Was at the stock 2.1 home screen.
The guy didn't "look" like he stole it. Nice guy, wife, 2 young kids. I'm pretty sure the guy found it somewhere.

Grats on buying stolen goods. Not the smartest thing to brag about, either.

Or possibly you've just met a Google worker that was quietly getting rid of his phone

i would have bought it too shiiiiit lol

The guy said the other guy found it. How the hell are you guys jumping to the conclusion that it's stolen?
The word "found" is similar to the word "stolen"?
So when my car stereo was missing out of my car one day, someone just found it and it actually wasn't stolen? Maybe this, I found 20 bucks on the street once but I must've stolen it right?
BTW, congrats on getting a awesome deal. Ignore the haters and you and your girlfriend enjoy the phone.

Damn you are really LUCKY android user. 200$ it's nothing for that phone

'The word "found" is similar to the word "stolen"?'
Maybe i said it wrong but i meant in this sentence it's an other word for found... And i'm not a hater just know how people are, they don't come in and say "i just stole the phone want to buy for 200 bucks?" That would be stupid! it's pretty clear it's stolen but i wouldn't care about it I'm Happy for the new owner and wished one day someone comes to me for a cheap good as new phone for 1/3 of the origional price (i got my hero for 150 bucks @ releaseday, found by someone i know )

Grats on capitalising on someone elses misfortune.
I'd gladly buy your phone if it was found/stolen rather than try and track you down. (/not. it's very easy to track down the owner of a lost phone for which i have done multiple times).
Did you keep the guys contacts & messages on their or just go and delete them? so as not to spark your conscience. How about when you were deleting the owners google login details to put your own in its place? did that make you feel all light and giddy too?

You work for T-Mobile, someone brings in a T-Mobile version of the N1 and you buy it rather than trying to find the owner on your internal system?
Morally bankrupt
SC

If I worked in your store and someone brought in a "found" phone, then (a) it wouldn't have left the store again, and (b) I would NEVER, EVER, have offered to buy it. Totally reprehensible.
If you find something it doesn't automatically become yours. You're no better than a common thief. In fact, you're worse, because you knowingly paid money for it.
I'd expect the manager to back me up on (a) and help track the original owner down. I can assure you that if you worked for me and I found out about this, you'd be out of the door so quick you'd wonder what happened.

bumskins said:
Grats on capitalising on someone elses misfortune.
I'd gladly buy your phone if it was found/stolen rather than try and track you down. (/not. it's very easy to track down the owner of a lost phone for which i have done multiple times).
Did you keep the guys contacts & messages on their or just go and delete them? so as not to spark your conscience. How about when you were deleting the owners google login details to put your own in its place? did that make you feel all light and giddy too?
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There was no SIM card in the phone. No contacts. Nothing at all. To me it looked like it was wiped which I'm sure the dude didn't do cause he had no clue how to use this phone or his phone which I might add.

ScaredyCat said:
You work for T-Mobile, someone brings in a T-Mobile version of the N1 and you buy it rather than trying to find the owner on your internal system?
Morally bankrupt
SC
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No way to track down people from IMEI's :-/

I'll give OP the benefit of the doubt based on his story of how the events went down.
People lose phones all the time... that's why applications like WaveSecure exist. Without having any such application on the phone, it gets to be rather difficult to find the owner - especially if all data has been wiped from the device. Without a SIM card, there's not really anything to tie the device to its previous owner.
It is kinda sketch, but I don't think the OP is in the wrong here.

I give it a week before its IMEI blocked

A Story Of Revenge:

Background:
I was waiting for the Evo, ever since it was announced. I got it on my lunch break during work (Which turned out to be 2 hours because of the sprint servers). I loved it.
Situation:
I was playing basketball when someone must have taken it out of my bag (I think it was right on top and possibly visible). I realized it probably 15-20 minutes after it was gone. I confronted the group of people and told them that I just wanted my phone back. Didn't care if they stole it, I wouldn't report it, just wanted it back. They all denied it.
I went home, more pissed than I've been in a while. I called sprint and told them my story. They said unless I had insurance (Which I'm getting in the future BTW), I was SOL. I told them to cancel my service, and I'll go back to t-mobile.
A day went by, and I started checking Craigslist to see if anything popped up. Well something did pop up. I called the people, and asked if they had the box and everything. They said they just got the actual phone for a gift. I contemplated arranging a meet up with my friend and them, and have some bats and golf clubs with me, but I decided I didn't wanna get arrested, or sued, or leave myself legally liable in any way. So I went to the police station.
I met this very friendly and nice cop outside and told him my story. He must have liked me, because he took me in, reported my item as stolen, and then I explained about the craigslist ad.
He took a look and agreed it was fishy. I told him if I could just get my hands on the phone and check the serial numbers, I could see if it was my phone or not. So, he grabbed his friend and they both took on the case (A sting operation for a phone!).
Well 12 hours went by and I was sweating because I didn't know when it was going down, or if the guys had sold the phone to someone else. Well my friends all called the phone number listed and asked if it was still available. They said that someone was looking at the phone right now. That was it, if it wasn't the cops, then I'd never get my phone back.
Well sure enough an hour later, I get a call from the cop, and he said they got my phone back. Told me never to go back to that court again. I'll have to testify, but I get my phone back in a few days.
I am probably one of the luckiest Evo Owners ever! Now just gotta get my phone reactivated... Hope there won't be too much of a problem there.
=)

Good story bro.

Show up to court and testify. Don't let the POS get away with it. If he gets away with it, it will teach him that stealing doesn't carry consequences.

I wouldn't post this online. Just sayin.

ok am not a good reader hehe so hmm who sstole your phone? scare the crap out of them for stealing!

Damn, talk about luck. The phone gods are looking down upon you dude. Nice. Testify and teach them to never steal again. Unfortunately once a thief, always a thief as the saying goes. I would take the cops advice and never go back to that BB court again. Congrats though.

nice! good police do exist

In the future you should install WaveSecure It'll let you track your phone and remotely wipe it among other things.

Awesome story!
Sad thing is you wont be able to play ball on that court again. =(

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In the future you should install WaveSecure It'll let you track your phone and remotely wipe it among other things.
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I have MobileDefence. What is WaveSecure like?

Cool that you got the phone back man.
To all those who say "Too bad you can't go back to that court again", why would the OP want to anyway? Obviously the type of crowd there is trouble. I wouldn't go play there again if my stuff was robbed and I never recovered it. I wouldn't be able to play having to check my stuff every two minutes knowing what happened the last time. Just sayin'.
P.S. -This is coming from a guy with a main source of exercise from Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft.

Awesome, exactly the same happened to me with my hero, december last year. Except it happened during my gym class at school, my father found it on a local auction site, and then left with a friend to confront the guys.The IMEI matched, ofcourse, and i got my phone back. Sad thing is that the douche who stole it, was a guy in my class, and even worse is the fact that he and his companion got of with a warning. Had to see him every single day for half a year.

I bring only the bare minimum when I go to the courts. Keys, ID and a bottle of water. A lack of cash ensures that I don't spend it splurging on impulse food after playing and that I head straight home. Lawl.

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I have MobileDefence. What is WaveSecure like?
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I've used both, mobile defense's web interface seems to be slightly nicer, but not much difference, they have almost identical feature sets. The only real difference is that mobile defense SMS for turning on tracking originate from the US. And Wave Secure SMS originates from Asia (can't remember the country) the reason this makes a difference is that wave secure costs you 20 cents every time you use it to do anything. I would stick with mobile defense. If you have wave secure all setup it's probably not worth switching either unless you track your phone or alarm/lock it often.

I am not sure if Android offers a tracking app. I use one on my TP2 and I don't care what they do with the phone because it will provide me with the exact location to share with the cops if necessary.
One SMS with my code and my phone lets me know it's location.

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I am not sure if Android offers a tracking app. I use one on my TP2 and I don't care what they do with the phone because it will provide me with the exact location to share with the cops if necessary.
One SMS with my code and my phone lets me know it's location.
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Did you read the thread? The posts right above yours mentions mobile defense which does exactly that.
Awesome that the OP got his phone back

I've use Mobile Defense since the day I got my myTouch with only one problem. They send a text from an e-mail that has mobiledefense in the name! Like, come on, don't be THAT obvious! You should get it from a real number saying like "hey baby" or something. A phone tracking app is invaluable to anyone who owns a phone like this, though.
As for OP, you are bigger man than I. Of course, I have a family riddled with crime (blood and in-laws) so the whole "beat the hell out of you" thing is pretty much drilled in at this point.

Thanks for sharing your story. Glad you got your phone back.

I actually flew to LA just after I got the phone (canceled online pre-order and stood in line so I can have it for the weekend). Went to play basketball with my brothers, and was worried about my phone being stolen, maybe I can blame losing that game on that...
I usually leave my stuff behind the basket pole, no chance of someone getting near my things without me seeing them, and the pole protects it from someone stepping on it.

I had my very first cell phone stollen. I was a senior in highschool and got a pretty decent job and wanted a phone. I got that nokia that everybody had 8 years ago (the one with the flashlight on top). I went to the pool for swim practice and came back and my phone was gone! I called it from my buddy's phone and the DB answered and said, sorry dude! Next time bring a lock! And hung up... I called ATT and reported it. They said because it was a cheap POS phone, there really wan't much they could do, but the guy gave me a discount on the same phone (I think I paid like $40 or something) so it was all good in the end.
I guess some people just need phones more than others! Teach this guy a lesson. Don't back down and maybe he'll think twice before he tries and steals someone else's $500 investment
Glad you were successful!
p.s. The first time I read the story, I thought the "court" the cops told you to stay away from was a "Court of Law" and not a basketball court. I was like, dang, cops don't want you to come back to the court (of law)? That's messed up!

Spoofed phone, and replies...

Been using Google voice (not religiously due to family not the most tech savvy). This morning, I wake up, and I find a total of 8 messages from starting from 10:30 at night, to 07:59 this AM. There are a total of 3 reply backs, all having personal information attached to them).
Researching the number back shows an area code of 734 (Ann Arbor), which is ironically the prefix I chose since I previously worked there at U of M.
The really interesting part is that I have a bit of a "stalker" at work, whose number I've blacklisted courtesy of Verizon wireless, and have not had any issues in say 1.5 months. 2 nights ago while at work she asked about setting up a google voice account after just purchasing a Samsung S, stating "I don't have any clue how to set this up". Was a bit busy at the time (patient going bad, honestly didn't really care", and opened up the app and told her to browse through it to get an idea.
How can I track this number (really think it's her) and verify it. I have a harassment case pending in HR regarding her, and would like to have it as material to provide it it really is her. Second, how the hell can my phone respond back? I have "Unknown sources" checked as I use Ti backup.
Any help more than appreciated. Thanks in advance!

LOL Holy christ no. One of the "you can take the girl from the trailer...." She's done this before to others at work, with the last moving to Canada (I **** you not) with his wife and 2 daughters. Been getting worse, hence my interaction with my manager and HR.

google voice also can use your email to reply back to texts..is your email compromised? Change your passwords..and do a hard reset..if you are using TI..just wipe and reinstall ROM...
It's hard to say what/if she did something...but yeah, thats weird.
edit: I live in Ann Arbor, but I wasn't the one...haha.

pretend how u have this treasure in nigeria, and ask her to "help" you bring it here.

Christ, I never thought of that, and I do have that option checked.
Sigh... I just did a complete backup 8 days ago, only difference is 2 games, and I can re-download those.
Google voice already uninstalled. After that I'm going to get number changed, and see if I can get it "unlisted" by Verizon.
What else, any other suggestions are more than welcome and appreciated!

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pretend how u have this treasure in nigeria, and ask her to "help" you bring it here.
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Somali pirates would probably ship her back, and the waters over there are dirty enough. No need to have Green Peace involved.... or maybe so... thoughts to ponder
Any way I can trace that number back to her original phone number?

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Somali pirates would probably ship her back, and the waters over there are dirty enough. No need to have Green Peace involved.... or maybe so... thoughts to ponder
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actually what i was getting at was scamming her so that she would get the message.
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Any way I can trace that number back to her original phone number?
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do a reverse number lookup and google voice numbers are listed as grandcentral in their service provider. that will tell u at the very least that its a GV number.

Well, after logging into Google voice, somehow her number (which is and has been blocked by Verizon) is listed as a secondary phone, receive text messages on this phone has been checked, PIN not required checked, and never ring. Multiple sign-in is enabled as well.
Just outstanding. Changed email to some bs address. Will verify and forget, as has password to something ridiculous. Any other suggestions?

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Any other suggestions?
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Document everything that has happened, as thoroughly as possible. Get whatever confirmation you can from Google that shows that your account was somehow compromised.
This chica sounds like she is serious business and doesn't mind playing these games long term. If she compromised your communications you can be sure that it was not just some isolated fun. She most likely mined your account for whatever info she could, and it's possible that she sent things 'on your behalf' that she can later use to accuse you of something.
Change all of your passwords immediately: banking, paypal, email, etc. If she was able to compromise one, it's likely she got into another.
It sounds like worrying about Google Voice or your phone is the least of your concerns: the symptom rather than the disease.
Seriously consider retaining a lawyer for whatever may come of all this insanity.
Maybe it sounds like I'm overreacting but I've seen the havoc that can come from such a situation and from your description, this sounds like it could go all sorts of awful ways.

I dunno... I think you like her.

i think you should talk to the police about this... not XDA... or maybe springer... he always gets the truth out

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...and opened up the app and told her to browse through it to get an idea.
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Is it possible she changed your google voice setup when you handed her your phone?
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If she's that much of a nut case, why did you give her your phone? It doesn't sound like she's dumb at all, if she mined your phone that quick.
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Who gives their phone to a known stalker nutcase?
I suspect there is more to this story.
Was she any good?
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OK wait one second here... a woman is "stalking" you and you are having issues with this?? Are you another woman? You can't be a guy because it is impossible to 1. rape a guy and 2. stalk a guy.
This is so much BS. if you were really bothered by this person why do you talk to her? why do you bother with her? I think you are her stalker, thats more believable.

I have been stalked by a chick. Its creepy. You get stalked when they're fat and scary looking. So it is possible.
Didn't know that they controlled how fast you post on here if your a new user. That is insane. But understandable.
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OK wait one second here... a woman is "stalking" you and you are having issues with this?? Are you another woman? You can't be a guy because it is impossible to 1. rape a guy and 2. stalk a guy.
This is so much BS. if you were really bothered by this person why do you talk to her? why do you bother with her? I think you are her stalker, thats more believable.
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Aside from just simply changing your passwords, change your security questions to the accounts as well.
Document everything and hand it over to HR

There's also an option to change your google voice number, if you dont mind choosing a new one.
Somewhere in the settings on the desktop site.