a friend recently purchased a sprint branded mogul and has attempted to hax verizons settings onto it, but it aint working.
anyone got some working instructions on how to do this? i know its possible, but i can't find anything on it.
First if verizon won't accept the esn or add it to there system then give up because it isn't going to happen.
oh how i love cdma, but still thats not the problem.
its still using sprints radio and whatnot even after flashing it=
The radio has no bearing on the problem. Just install a custom rom with verizon carrier cab or install verizon rom. Also update to a current verizon prl. And change you epst settings. It would help if you had another verizon phone to copy the settings from.
FWIW, Upper "management" from my current (small) carrier told me that Verizon was now accepting devices that were not originally sold by Verizon. I drove two hours to a corporate Verizon store to discuss activating a device (provided by my carrier, long story) and was told by the corporate Verizon tech no how, no way!
You chances of getting one activated are slim. You have to find the right tech to add the esn to there dmd.
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Hey guys,
I am looking to answer a few questions for a friend.
He has Alltel service and wants to purchase Alltel's version of the 6800.
Would he be able to buy the Sprint version, since both carriers are CDMA?
I have no clue about CDMA, I only use GSM carriers.
I see the prices of the Alltel verion are rediculous on eBay.
Thanks for the help
The Alltel version is pricier...I think because the Alltel cliental is not as nearly extensive as Sprint's. CDMA is a newer digital carrier service used only in the USA and Canada I think. GSM is older but used here and Europe.
As for carrier service, I would imagine there is away to get a Mogul to work on Alltel service since they are both CDMA and even Verizon is now allowing other CDMA carrier's phones on their network. I saw some posts about transferring phones with ESN, etc. Do a little more searching. You will find the answer.
Sprint Mogul on Alltel
You can use any version of the 6800 on Alltel... I've used both a Sprint Mogul and a Telus P4000 (Canadian) successfully. I still use the Telus P4000 as a backup to my Alltel 6800.
The easiest way to accomplish using another carrier's device is to use the hard SPL (bootloader) here on XDA-Developers and then you can load the Alltel ROM to whichever version of the device you have. That's exactly what I did to my P4000...
The only consideration to affecting this change is that Sprint uses MSL's (Master Subsidy Lock) on their phones. You'll need to know the MSL to update the PRL (Preferred Radio/Roaming List) because a non-Alltel device will not update OTA (Over The Air). Verizon and Alltel (verify Verizon for yourself, I'm only sure about Alltel) don't use MSL's, their MSL is always set to six zero's... so a Verizon 6800 is the easier switch as both Telus and Sprint use MSL's for their handsets.
Good luck...
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You can use any version of the 6800 on Alltel... I've used both a Sprint Mogul and a Telus P4000 (Canadian) successfully. I still use the Telus P4000 as a backup to my Alltel 6800.
The easiest way to accomplish using another carrier's device is to use the hard SPL (bootloader) here on XDA-Developers and then you can load the Alltel ROM to whichever version of the device you have. That's exactly what I did to my P4000...
The only consideration to affecting this change is that Sprint uses MSL's (Master Subsidy Lock) on their phones. You'll need to know the MSL to update the PRL (Preferred Radio/Roaming List) because a non-Alltel device will not update OTA (Over The Air). Verizon and Alltel (verify Verizon for yourself, I'm only sure about Alltel) don't use MSL's, their MSL is always set to six zero's... so a Verizon 6800 is the easier switch as both Telus and Sprint use MSL's for their handsets.
Good luck...
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How in the heII did you get them to accept your non-Alltel phones??? Do you have a friend at Alltel? I couldn't get them to activate my old Sprint 6700 on my wifes Alltel line for ANYTHING! I'll bet I called 25 times trying to get it done (sometimes if you just get the right CSM they'll do anything for you). I even talked to tech support and told them that I had flased the Alltel ROM to the phone so that it was essentially an Alltel phone.
You must be good...
How to activate another carriers phone
Call them and dont tell them its not an alltel phone simply state you have a 6700 or 6800 to activate and there will be no questions or issues activating the phones, of course you will need to have the rom already updated as they will try to get you to ota activate the phone or manually program and they wont know the msl code and if you mention anything about it, then they will know its not an alltel phone also you can download alltel's version of wm6 for the 6700 and 6800 at this site without any bootloader tool.
http://www.america.htc.com/support/ppc6800/software-downloads.html
Its not really made for the 6700 but I have tested and worked fine on mutiple 6700s.
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Call them and dont tell them its not an alltel phone simply state you have a 6700 or 6800 to activate and there will be no questions or issues activating the phones, of course you will need to have the rom already updated as they will try to get you to ota activate the phone or manually program and they wont know the msl code and if you mention anything about it, then they will know its not an alltel phone also you can download alltel's version of wm6 for the 6700 and 6800 at this site without any bootloader tool.
http://www.america.htc.com/support/ppc6800/software-downloads.html
Its not really made for the 6700 but I have tested and worked fine on mutiple 6700s.
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Thats really good to know. It seems reasonable that if they tell you something like they cant locate the phone in your system,tell them that that is impossible. The phone after all came in a alltel, has alltel logos on it etc. =) That chad guy from the commercial even came over and personally verified it.
Hello,
I currently have a Sprint Mogul that is working great. I love the phone (especially with the new radio features). I may have the opportunity to switch wireless carriers soon, as my contract will run out in the next few months.
I would like to switch to Alltel as they have better coverage in my state. What do I need to do to get my Mogul/Titan to work on Alltel's network? I presume they probably have to register the device's ESN on their network and change some other network related settings on the phone. Has anyone gotten a carrier to do this? Can it be done? Has anyone made a switch like this and kept the same device?
I'm just not thrilled about re-buying my phone again.
Thanks for your stories and input.
I never experienced this nor heard of it, but I think it's possible. All you would need is to flash on Alltel's ROM and update using Alltel's PRL just so you can get a lock on Alltel's towers. With this accomplished, I think you can try calling them up and have them program your phone like you would with any other carrier.
Note, this is all just making educational guesses on my part and not guaranteed to work.
Tried it with qwest... big problems
I'm not sure how sprint will work it for you but when I tried to switch from qwest to sprint with mine.. it never happened.. though sprint did say that qwest HAD to release the ENS qwest refused to, and I walked all the way up the chain of support/manager/supervisor/legal dept... they said they own the ESN.. you might have better luck with sprint but.. I would check to make sure it is going to work before you terminate service with them..
Best of luck.
Just a thought I read somewhere just the other day that you could change the esn of the 6800/mogul. So if you went to new carrier and said give me a new esn (not even sure if they can) that works on your service and then changed your current ESN (removed the sprint) and placed the new ESN then it should work?
I would think that is legal.. you are using a ESN that your new carrier knows about because they gave it to you. Not sure.
Verizon has activated alltel phones on their network before by reflashing the software/writing their PRL to the phone. I have first hand experience with this. I would assume it is possible but just a matter of if they are willing to do it.
Of course it is possible
I have used Alltel phones on VZW and VZW phones on Alltel with only telling them the ESN. I am on Alltel now and want to take my 6800 to Sprint. Sprint sales says I can, but no one knows what steps I'll have to take. Want to just trade phones?
okay so i got the used galaxy s4 sprint from somebody, and it won't activate.
esn came up clean, but they said it won't activate due to some reason.
it' snot like someone is activated on that phone.
but the sprint told me that there is one weird thing he found.
when i go to about device > status > network says "samsung" not sprint
It might be an unlocked version. and i have no idea what that mean.
because sprint don have unlocked phone.
help me someone
I see that your phone number isn't programmed into the my number field and your MIN number isn't assigned either. I'm not on 3g at the moment so I don't know if the evdo rev a mode is the same mode as Sprint. Looks like you have a sim card in it because it's setting a tower. The phone's serial number needs to be programmed to your account and update the profile and prl and possibly needs the provisioning to be updated. A real Sprint employee could tell you what needs to be done correctly. I don't think unlocked phones, per se, run on evdo. That's odd that they can't give you a definite answer why they can't activate it. Take it to a different Sprint store.
Did you try doing a ##786# reset?
The phone might have been used on a prepaid service and was flashed.
Try a factory reset if it still won't activate take it to a sprint store.
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2 things:
1) Flash the one click restore for Sprint and see if that fixes the carrier name.
2) If #1 doesn't fix the activation can you provide the error message?
Also, make sure the MEID matches between screen and back of the phone (behind battery).
If that doesn't that could also explain things.
I'm having the exact same problem. I was going to flash the phone to boost because sprint wouldn't activate, but I can't update the profile or prl. It when I try it just seems to activate hands free activation which fails.
How to get read of activation not completed message process? Due to such a kind advice on this board I got the phone to work with GSM and do not need Sprint service on it. Thanks
and nsnuyc
I would do what garwynn said double check the MEID inside the settings versus the tag located under the battery. Also confirm that the phone wasnt blacklisted after you purchased it. I have seen shady deals where you buy a clean esn phone as soon as you walk away with it the person calls Sprint on the spot and reports it lost/stolen. Where did you verify the MEID was clear directly through Sprint CS or a third party website like swappa or checkesnfree?
I just bought a galaxy s5 off craigslist and verified the imei # on swappa.com and it said it was ready to activate. But it turns out it's still on someone's account. I don't think it's stolen cause the guy at sprint said the last name on the account was the same as the person that sold it to me. It didn't have a SIM card in it so I couldn't tell it was still activated.
So is there anyway I can still unlock it and use it with verizon cause the girl I bought it from keeps acting like she is getting it removed but the account is in her grandmothers name and she is really sick
Neil_615 said:
I just bought a galaxy s5 off craigslist and verified the imei # on swappa.com and it said it was ready to activate. But it turns out it's still on someone's account. I don't think it's stolen cause the guy at sprint said the last name on the account was the same as the person that sold it to me. It didn't have a SIM card in it so I couldn't tell it was still activated.
So is there anyway I can still unlock it and use it with verizon cause the girl I bought it from keeps acting like she is getting it removed but the account is in her grandmothers name and she is really sick
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A Sprint S5 will not work on Verizon, so even if you could unlock it while it's still activated on a Sprint account, it wouldn't do you any good.
Unless the person you bought it from is willing to refund your money, you're stuck with a phone you can't use.
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A Sprint S5 will not work on Verizon, so even if you could unlock it while it's still activated on a Sprint account, it wouldn't do you any good.
Unless the person you bought it from is willing to refund your money, you're stuck with a phone you can't use.
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Damn. We'll is there anything I can do to make it able to be activated on any network so I can sell it and hopefully get my money back? Other than just selling for parts witch I might end up having to do anyway
well she deactivated the phone and I got the MSL code from sprint and Verizon says they can activate it if I got it flashed to Verizon's software but now the problem is version dosent flash phones
Neil_615 said:
well she deactivated the phone and I got the MSL code from sprint and Verizon says they can activate it if I got it flashed to Verizon's software but now the problem is version dosent flash phones
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You would also need the IMEI number to be entered into Verizon's system in order to access their CDMA network, and Verizon does not add non-Verizon phones to their system for that.
If she deactivated the phone, I would just sell it.
I have a similar problem with my galaxy S5 from sprint. I was told from 2 different sprint call center people that with the MSL code (which I already got) the phone can be used with another domestic company and also international.
From that point I started an account with T Mobile, but when I inserted the SIM card into my phone it doesnt recognize it and obiusly have no signal.
Ive tried different methods to get the phone into the GSM frecuency, even accesing to the Hidden Menu and choosing ONLY GSM FREC, tried to add an APN, and now I'm thinking to install a g900t ROM to make it work...
If anyone here can help me out with this or refer me to a thread that could help, I will appreciate that
Hi guys. Long time reader, been fortunate, but finally have to post a question.
Thanks up front, this forum is very awesome.
We are Verizon customers. I recently bought an SM-930P from a local guy. He's had his phone stolen, he got another, then it was recovered so he sold the replacement to me.
He called and made sure all was good and deactivated it before the sale.
Well from what I can tell, Sprint didn't push the unlock to the phone before he took it offline. From what I've gathered, the 930P is unusual in that it can't be manually unlocked via a code. Correct?
I called Sprint - (aside - boy it is very hard to get to a human being to talk to you if you aren't a customer) - the rep said, oh yes, the EMEI is OK, phone was paid off, we'll unlock it for you.
Yet it does not work.
Symptoms: My Verizon SIM won't work (just says invalid SIM), and when I tried a friend's SIM from their Spring S7 it also didn't work, said it was invalid.
Today I called Sprint back again, and this time the rep - this time it was somebody from the S7 tech group - said that the phone was still associated w/ the other guy's account. Since I didn't have authorization on the account she wouldn't do anything else. So now I have heard 2 different stories from Sprint.
Well, that guy is in the Army and can't be reached now to call himself.
So, I need to have it unlocked, but I'm stuck. I don't care about Sprint b/c I want to use it on Verizon.
Am I correct that the only option is to do a USB direct-connect unlock, like some people are offering as services (through eBay etc)? My understanding is that they manually update the phone so it thinks it's getting the unlock from the carrier?
And although I don't intend to use Sprint - what happens if, later, I or somebody else wants to put it back on Sprint if it has been unlocked this way? Will there be a whitelist issue with their records?
Thanks
RatLabGuy said:
Hi guys. Long time reader, been fortunate, but finally have to post a question.
Thanks up front, this forum is very awesome.
We are Verizon customers. I recently bought an SM-930P from a local guy. He's had his phone stolen, he got another, then it was recovered so he sold the replacement to me.
He called and made sure all was good and deactivated it before the sale.
Well from what I can tell, Sprint didn't push the unlock to the phone before he took it offline. From what I've gathered, the 930P is unusual in that it can't be manually unlocked via a code. Correct?
I called Sprint - (aside - boy it is very hard to get to a human being to talk to you if you aren't a customer) - the rep said, oh yes, the EMEI is OK, phone was paid off, we'll unlock it for you.
Yet it does not work.
Symptoms: My Verizon SIM won't work (just says invalid SIM), and when I tried a friend's SIM from their Spring S7 it also didn't work, said it was invalid.
Today I called Sprint back again, and this time the rep - this time it was somebody from the S7 tech group - said that the phone was still associated w/ the other guy's account. Since I didn't have authorization on the account she wouldn't do anything else. So now I have heard 2 different stories from Sprint.
Well, that guy is in the Army and can't be reached now to call himself.
So, I need to have it unlocked, but I'm stuck. I don't care about Sprint b/c I want to use it on Verizon.
Am I correct that the only option is to do a USB direct-connect unlock, like some people are offering as services (through eBay etc)? My understanding is that they manually update the phone so it thinks it's getting the unlock from the carrier?
And although I don't intend to use Sprint - what happens if, later, I or somebody else wants to put it back on Sprint if it has been unlocked this way? Will there be a whitelist issue with their records?
Thanks
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I used the Android Doctor, a quick Google search will find it. Super easy, remote unlock...they will stay in contact with you and make sure your phone works before they charge you. Reasonable price. I've done my s7 and s7 edge. Both work flawlessly. I'm on Straight Talk/AT&T.
Just as an update - yes, after more reading what I learned was that the USB-key approach is the only solution to this.
I went through GSM-Zambia.com - pretty much the same as Android Doctor but slightly cheaper.
That did the trick.
Also FYI - once it was unlocked, I flashed the based G930u version firmware - the one intended for unlocked, non-carrier specific phones - instead of the G930p as intended for Sprint. No problems w/ it whatsoever, seems to have all the radio bands active AND no bloatware.
Only hitch was that I still had to call Verizon and work w/ a tech to activate it on their network b/c if you give the IMEI online to do it manually yourself it just complains that they don't recognize it as compatible.