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'Jasjar' with WM 5.0 (Benchnarked) 10x slower than PPC2003SE

Sorry to be the bearer of seemingly bad news, but as I haven't got my Universal yet, I can't help but look for as much info as possible. Even if it ends up negative!
The following link is damning. Someone show me some other results please or explain why it looks so bad. Maybe it's the graphics chip in the dell Axim?
Anyway read this: http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/articles.php?action=expand,43092&start=4

Full story here: http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=365871

hopefully down to patching then :?

I think it comes down to the Benchmarking application. First they need to compile a Benchmarking app for WM5.0 and then and only then compare.
However, let's not forget that WM5.0 reads/writes to ROM which in practical terms is much slower than RAM.
I have not hear an actual Universal owner complain about slowndowns.
We will just have to wait and see, don't you think?
Worst case scenario, I'm sure there will be patches and customizations in this very forums to increase OS performance as is the case of the Himalaya WM5.0 which is much faster than the first releases.
Cheers!
Rayan

No problems here with slow devices, its much faster then my BlueAngel...... :roll:

Appreciate the feedback guys. You've settled my nerves withyour logical deduction. Suppose it was obvious, but panick had set in, especially as I have read on these forums that some people had in fact experienced significant slow-downs in connection with certain 3rd party software. Well thanks again.
What about Activesync? Does anyone out there see this as a problem or do you have confidence in MS that they will update & fix bugs within the near future?

rob_van_triet said:
No problems here with slow devices, its much faster then my BlueAngel...... :roll:
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i can second that.. its snappier than any other device ive used (ipaq 2210
pda2k, xda2i ,imate jam) this baby is fast
unlike the xda2i where the default running mode was 400 mhz (with optional turbo mode jasjar by default runs on 520 mhz) read that somewhere...

Its just as fast as the xda IIi and in some cases it seems quicker. So it all boils down to what apps you are using.

Yep, much faster than my Jam was, (even though it's VGA, and as such, I half expected it to be slightly slower)
I did find that the WM2005 'beta' of Wisbar Advance slowed it down quite a bit, but I can live without WA until it's been optimised for WM2005.

Faster and Smoother
Jasjar WM5.0 is quite faster then its predecesors and ActiveSync works fine with USB cable and Bluetooth , haven't tried Infra yet.
Overall its a fantastic device to have.

Jasjar is only noticebly slower when you select the smallest text size in the screen options and you're writing using Calligrapher in notepad (possibly other apps that can operate at this high res - 640x480?).
I found it most deinitely slower with Calligrapher; writes much slower to screen; in lower resolution, Calligrapher seems to just print the entire recognised text to screen immediately.

[XDA Mini S] Stability problems

Has anyone else had problems with this device locking up / running very slow? It only seems to happen when I launch a new app, but it doesn't seem to depend on which app it is. The device just has a go-slow and usually needs a soft-reset. Opening they keyboard does not rotate the screen any more, but does draw some pretty weird icons on the side of the screen ;-)
Interested to hear other people's experiences before I start digging to try and discover the cause.
Thanks
Daern

Mine seems to be running pretty well. Occasionally it'll slow down a little but not enough to affect running apps etc. I've not really had any more than a one second delay with screen rotation. Have you got the O2 Active UI installed?

Dr Doom said:
Mine seems to be running pretty well. Occasionally it'll slow down a little but not enough to affect running apps etc. I've not really had any more than a one second delay with screen rotation. Have you got the O2 Active UI installed?
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Nope. It was awful with O2Active installed (as usual). Mine is configured in "basic" mode.

wizrd running slow
You have an 200Mhz device running WM2005.The ROM is not a final one ... improvments for o2 active are still made ( by the way the software is for unexperienced users mostly if you carefully read the setup panel)...So you just have to wait for the entire software to get improved

Your Voice - Xperia after ROM Upate

Here are some things that have been noticed so far with the R2 release of Xperia ROMs. Go through the list and cast your vote above.
(If you chose from the last two selections, then please post your ROM version - i.e. Swedish ROM, Vodafone UK, Generic UK, and so on... and also point out what points you disagree with)
The device now boots faster.
Faster menus - switching tabs in settings is quicker.
Programs launch quicker and file explorer is quick in loading folders.
Bluetooth Problem reported to be fixed. (I didn’t face any bluetooth problems with the old software and am not facing any now.)
Wi-Fi bug fixed.
Panel animation is a bit smoother but still laggy on switching from portrait to landscape and vice versa. Overall a faster panels experience.
Video playback has improved a lot! CP benchmark on a video resulted in 90-92% on the old ROM and is now increased to 98%.
Word prediction in most text-boxes.
Media Panel improvements including; music indexing is a lot faster, image scrolling is almost as smooth as it should be, changing tracks show information about the track at the bottom of the screen, and most importantly it now only shows pictures from the My Pictures and Camera folders on the main and internal storage – say goodbye to all those images from program files and windows showing up.
Camera improvements include faster focus lock and more stable focus. Preview is also smoother and introduces a new setting letting you define the frame rate to use for the video to shoot.
Furthermore, I think they updated the 3D drivers too. TouchFlo 3D is running way smooth - especially the Pictures and Media tabs! (flicking through pictures and music is quick and smooth) + Slide2Play is performing much better with this new updated ROM; quicker and smoother movement in landscape, switches album/song images correctly on song change, and games are also functioning way smoother than before.
Best Regards.
Salman Khalid.

I have the generic UK R2A ROM, and since flashing its definitely much better, the only points I cant be sure of are the games (dont have those extra) and the tf3d working better as I dont use that... but all the other points spot on and its humming now... fan-fricking-tastic...

I do agree with the points but still not a huge difference.
Pannel lag is the worst. This is the central point of the X1 and its crap still laggy as hell ok they boot slightly quicker but going from landscape to portraight is bad.
As for bluetooth fix so far its stayed on but im not completely satisfied until i get my tomtom back from repair and try it.
booting is about the same for me.
videos i need to test.
as for the extra games all they have doneis put the games from Java into the program menu. this is **** as the games are al trial versions and that blockbreaker is only a 90 second demo! WHY ffs dont waste your time and effort putting it on the X1 its a **** game im not going to buy it!
Also a main point is i have not soft reset my X1 yet! this is great finally can i go a day witout doing a soft reset?
Im still not entirely satisfied and even though i really like the X1 and will not give it up i still think it could be so much better. What are SE playingat
To summerise im happy with the update but still want more, more and more.

There's some issues with playback of recorded video, but other than that vid playback is better.
Overall I find the x1 much faster, especially on screen redraws and other 2D malarky, there appears to be a new DDI in this one that uses the hardware better I think.

Jasand said:
Pannel lag is the worst. This is the central point of the X1 and its crap still laggy as hell ok they boot slightly quicker but going from landscape to portraight is bad.
as for the extra games all they have doneis put the games from Java into the program menu. this is **** as the games are al trial versions and that blockbreaker is only a 90 second demo! WHY ffs dont waste your time and effort putting it on the X1 its a **** game im not going to buy it!
Also a main point is i have not soft reset my X1 yet! this is great finally can i go a day witout doing a soft reset?
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I guess the game point doesn't really need to exist on that list - since its not an enhancement really. FYI - added only with the Vodafone UK ROM.
As for Panels... given that they are the main thing on Xperia, there should have been more improvements with them. Maybe a panel or two!

I flashed to x1a GENERIC NORTH AMERICA R2AA008 (1.03.948.8) couple days ago. (I have x1a purchased from sonystyle.com nov 08)
Camera - still testing. no option to turn off shutter sound.
Video - has not test yet.
access sd card - seems to be faster.
Headset works now in vibrate mode.
radio rom - 1.10.25.18. Seems to switch to GPRS more often than 1.06.25.29 (Probably will test other radios)

Overall is SLOWER;
Cannot make it: DON'T capitalize first letter (no matter if checked or not, it is Capitalizing always!)
Still no zoom at 3MP (I know its only digital, but comeon!)
Picture Quality / AutoFocus worse, for sure NOT better!
Still lags sometimes, while opening programs or clicking on anything!
Cannot choose to see ALL pictures in media panel anymore!
and so on.... !
I have Generic UK R2AA008 with the customized software ID from the download here! I have before, originally a different Generic_UK Customized version and had NO such problems besides the Bluetooth sometimes(!) turning off.

IMHO both NAM R2A and UK R2A have been improved
Still not perfect, but better overall xperiance over R1A
So I leave a positive feedback: Item as described. Would buy again. A++++

newly updated Generic_UK ROM
*First thing I've notice: Message Sent notification Fixed.
*Everything seem to boost up as far as performance is concern.
Satisfied and very Impressive as of now...

michaelthemage said:
Overall is SLOWER;
Cannot make it: DON'T capitalize first letter (no matter if checked or not, it is Capitalizing always!)
Still no zoom at 3MP (I know its only digital, but comeon!)
Picture Quality / AutoFocus worse, for sure NOT better!
Still lags sometimes, while opening programs or clicking on anything!
Cannot choose to see ALL pictures in media panel anymore!
and so on.... !
I have Generic UK R2AA008 with the customized software ID from the download here! I have before, originally a different Generic_UK Customized version and had NO such problems besides the Bluetooth sometimes(!) turning off.
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Are you sure you flashed with the correct version ?
I strongly agree with the list of improvements.
And zoom at maximal resolution (for us 3 MP) is not a bug, it's just the way Sony Ericsson wrote his software on any of their mobile phones, which is exactly the same for any Sony PowerShot camera. You cannot zoom digital at maximal resolution.

michaelthemage said:
Overall is SLOWER;
Cannot make it: DON'T capitalize first letter (no matter if checked or not, it is Capitalizing always!)
Still no zoom at 3MP (I know its only digital, but comeon!)
Picture Quality / AutoFocus worse, for sure NOT better!
Still lags sometimes, while opening programs or clicking on anything!
Cannot choose to see ALL pictures in media panel anymore!
and so on.... !
I have Generic UK R2AA008 with the customized software ID from the download here! I have before, originally a different Generic_UK Customized version and had NO such problems besides the Bluetooth sometimes(!) turning off.
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No capitalizing issues at my end. Check your Camera settings - quality must be low or something. Zoom is simply not an option offered in the camera firmware, really not a bug! Overall speed improvements, but will still show a little lag at times - it is windows mobile 6.5 after all! And who wants to see all pictures in media panel? Media Panel kept bringing in pictures from progam files and so on, so turning that off was good, but i agree there should be an option to toggle that option.

I've had my SEX1 for one week today, and so far no real complaint's. I noticed the last post in this thread is about a month old. Any updates, after longer usage? Do you recommend doing the update?
Thanks in advance.

If you check your rom and see you have an older R1 version then
Answer = Yes
It's greatly improved my speed on my phone, i no longer want to through it at the wall when it lags, because by and large all lagginess has been removed.

here's my upsets. I've flashed mine using generic uk rom. official SEUS since I can't use cooked rom which voids my warranty.
suck no. 1.: the damn thing always connect to 3G / Phone Data whenever it needs internet connection. Even if network is set to "My ISP". Even if nodata.cab is installed. And hell, even if the wifi is turned on and somehow your wifi connection at home becomes disconnected for whatever reasons, the 3G/Data connects. I just hate this feature. Whoever did it is a wuzzz! heheheh. Connecting to 3G automatically means adding paid data to your bill automatically. I reflashed the device twice. and I still get to connect automatically.
no 2.: This feature already sucked before but now the improvement sucks even more. Before, whenever you listen to mp3, whenever someone sends you sms, your mp3 mutes, and device plays your sms tone, making your music skip for a few seconds. This does not happen on SE phones. But of course, using UIQ.
Now, whenever you listen to your mp3 and someone sends you sms, the music keeps on playing while you sms tone plays at the same time. Real lame I should say.
no. 3.: I couldn't say camera or video recording has been improved IMHO. Because you now have the choice to record your videos in a High or Normal frame rate. Since the device can record at high frame rate, Who the hell would choose normal rate from now on? I mean would it still make sense? Then a minor thing is that the silent shutter isn't there anymore, The layout is noticeable that the 5th option wasn't there. Although I never cared.
no 4.: Random appearance of Flight mode bugs. Whenever your turn OFF your flight mode, the WIFI turns on. Even if it is off right before you turned ON the flight mode. this happens on occasions.
no. 5.: Faster boot up is noticeable. But I do not need reboot the phone, and it's not made to be noticed booting up. And again. And then again.

I must be NUTS! I SWEAR the X1 becomes faster over time.

I know this isn't the way windows is designed.....
But has any one else noticed that the X1 seems to speed up a bit and becomes a bit more reponsive after being used for a while?

Cache is it
BTW, comming from the diamond/raphael, my Xperia was FAST from the very first day, and this ain't no red herring or kosher pig

Depends what.
Apps are usually fast, but definitely homescreen orientation changes get slower over time.
Very occasionaly some problems appear, like once the scrolling got reeeaaally bad and slow, just reboot helped. Sometimes Opera 9.5 gives problems.
Anyway, generally I don't complain in this regard.

Simple
The simple answer is ...Yes...you're nuts.
But seriously, it's just the cache. The rotation time drives me nuts, I use an iphone too and thats pretty snappy at rotation, although i know it works differently, and possibly is more powerful hardware?
Anyway, the overall responsiveness of my Xperia so far has been overwhelingly appauling.
I have upgraded to R2A and not installed anything at all, just to keep it fast, and further to that I even uninstalled and removed some startup items.
It's such a shame to me because I had a PDA back in 2006 and i got rid of it cause WinMo sucks, this is such a nice piece of hardware from SE (even if it is HTC made),it would have been so much nicer with one of their own OSs that are always so slick, or atleast some sort of hypervisor system so that whatever crap (WinMo) is run in the background, stays in the background.
The reason I decided to go for this instead of wait for the N97 is because I thought there wold be so much more content, and since security in Symbian S60 5th is a nut cracker.
Anyway, lets hope WinMo 7 gets ReadyBoost from the MicroSD

I came kicking and screaming to the Xperia from the Iphone (some of our emailed based software does not work with Iphone email format)
I freely admit I HATED the Xperia out of the box. Youtube would play, video playback SUCKED, audio play back was mediocore, and I have to soft reset once a day.
After installing the xperia tweak, schaps, SD tuneup, youtube panel, etc. etc. I am finally ok with it.
Sinc eI still have the iPhone 3g I have compared them side by side in various environments. The xperia is much more customizable but............. video still isn't as good as the iphone and signal strength isn't as good either. Call quality is a little bit better and the AD2P is MUCH better with the xperia though.

If you're NUTS! then so am I.
I'm pretty sure mine has become faster in the 4 months i have had it.
I had the diamond before the X1 and felt the Xperia lagging behind in certain aspects of speed but it has DEFINATELY got better and now is running smoothly and efficiently.
Now is probably a good time to do a backup heh?
btw: my very first XDA Dev post!

I wouldn't say it's becoming faster, but the battery definitely lasts longer with the time going by.
When I bought the phone it was 2 days, now I have 5 days on the counter and it's 20% full

Uh yeah.......no. After a little over a month of use, it might make it 24 hrs. But I am sure that is because the push email keeps the data connection going 24/7. Wifi is rough on the battery but bluetooth isn't too harsh.
I have a nice ''bed'' on my dresser (mouse pad) where all of my chargers are run to. Xperia, iPhone, and HBH-IS800's get thrown on their chargers as part of my bed time ritual. So I can live with my battery life.

i've also reflected of that =)

the longer i use it, the more stable/less crashes i notice

I am NUTS too...
After some period of use my SEX1 work perfectly and faster then before. No more freezes no more soft resets an i have everything possible instaled on it . Video playback is smoooth and everything else is working ok. Now i am happy with my SEX1. And yes now is time for real backup. Can anyone sugest me what program i should use to backup all of my phone(files , settings , programs , games etc...) Thanks in advance

I can say that I'm pretty happy with my X1 speed.
But... I've installed Teksoft SpeddBooster, tweaked some programs, and it flies, now.
Namely, on a official PT rom, panels are much faster. Opening folders, on Total Commander, also.

my x1 slows over time

I haven't installed any ROM's yet, so I might need to do that. But sadly I'm having buyers remorse with my X1, I'm really not fond of Windows Mobile. I've got a couple of problems with my phone now, while it's only 2 months old. One being that I can't my SMS messenges, or atleast WM doesn't show them while I do see them on my Mac with Syncmate! And the last couple of days I've been having trouble with freezes when I change panels or try to update the RSS feed in one of the SE Xperia panels...
I wan't to update my software through the SE website hoping that it'll fix the kink in my system, but it seems I need to use a Windows PC to do that...
Really, I probably should have gone for an iPhone. Thing is though, I love the SE hardware, styling and it's keyboard. It's a lovely machine, but it's a shame they put the ****ty WM software on it. Pfff, really fed up with Microsoft.

definitely getting faster but that may just be me being drunk at nights

Mrca said:
After some period of use my SEX1 work perfectly and faster then before. No more freezes no more soft resets an i have everything possible instaled on it . Video playback is smoooth and everything else is working ok. Now i am happy with my SEX1. And yes now is time for real backup. Can anyone sugest me what program i should use to backup all of my phone(files , settings , programs , games etc...) Thanks in advance
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Try SPB Backup.

ROM 1.48 improvements (formerly...GPS issue...)

I recently upgraded to the 1.48 ROM, initial reactions were positive - does seem a bit snapier, SMS is sent quicker, there is noticeably less hissing on phone calls - overall seemed better. Then I tried to use GPS, I always allowed Windows to manage it on this and other devices and it worked very well then and in ROM 1.43 but not after upgrade. Under All Settings - System - External GPS I've always been able to assign a COM other than "none" under the Hardware tab. After the upgrade when I change the value and hit ok, when I return it has been reset to none. Even though Windows is managing GPS automatically (box is checked) no programs can access GPS. Has anyone else experienced this as well - is there any fix?
Thanks
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A soft reset allowed windows to automatically manage the GPS??? and it does work, though still cannot make changes to external GPS under hardware tab - does not matter though since it does work!
Thread modified - I think it would better serve the community to share experience with users who want to upgrade ROM to 1.48. HTC's upgrade description is cryptic and vague - some wonder if it's worth the upgrade.

I'm pretty sure that it would happen also with 1.43/1.61.

I'd suggest you have a look using HTCs GPS tool (dont have link for it) or any other COM-sniffing application. If that comes out negative, try hardreset or reflash rom.
Just my two cents.
Havent read any other posts about this and it seems that many have flashed 1.48/1.61/2.01 roms and no complaints about about the GPS.

Thanks for the help guys, got it sorted. I changed the thread to help those who want to upgrade.
Some user experiences with the new ROM...
- As mentioned, cannot change hardware GPS com port, though it does work when managed automantically.
- No changes noticed with Opera, it works just the same as before, I don't see any difference in switching between landscape and portrait as HTC claims.
- The new radio brings an improvement, there is noticably less static and hiss before a call is connected, the call clarity is slightly improved as well.
- The home tab in sense operates more fluidly, the clock animation is not as jumpy and weather animation is smoother. overall program swithcing / use seems as good as before (maybe SLIGHTLY better - you'd really have to concentrate to notice any of this snappier preformance)
- SMS messages are sent and recieved MUCH faster than before, when I send an SMS it takes only a few seconds for the receipient to recieve - this is WITHOUT the SMS hotfix.
Will post again with any other comments including any noticed changes to battery life. Hope this helps those who were confused by HTC's ambiguous description of what this new ROM brought to the table.