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US Touch Dual on Best Buy website

Just saw the Touch Dual available for preorder on the Best Buy website. Would it work on just rolled out 3G T-Mobile network or ATT is the only option? I live in New York area...

tarrytownfads said:
Just saw the Touch Dual available for preorder on the Best Buy website. Would it work on just rolled out 3G T-Mobile network or ATT is the only option? I live in New York area...
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Unless they've done something drastic, unlock and you're ready to rock'n'roll.

Wasn't the Touch Dual in America supposed to be carrier free?
If so, both T-mobile and AT&T should work.

It is going to be sold unlocked... But the T-Mo US uses different bands for their 3G then the ATT. Does anyone know if the US Touch Dual will work with T-Mo 3G data network?

tarrytownfads said:
It is going to be sold unlocked... But the T-Mo US uses different bands for their 3G then the ATT. Does anyone know if the US Touch Dual will work with T-Mo 3G data network?
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It won't work with t-mo 3G. It is quad band gsm tho and unlocked.

Wrong pic on sale site?
tarrytownfads said:
Just saw the Touch Dual available for preorder on the Best Buy website. Would it work on just rolled out 3G T-Mobile network or ATT is the only option? I live in New York area...
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Odd that the picture shown has the 16-key keyboard, not the 20-key. Everything I've read says only the 20-key is coming to America - isn't that right?

Actually, some Best Buy pictures show 16 key and some show 20 key.
I wrote HTC to ask and they said there is no Touch Dual for the USA (helpful).

just got back from local best buy and picked it up and it is the qwerty 20 key

I called a few local Best Buys here in Los Angeles, but they all say its not in?
I have to say I dont know if I belive them or not... Anyone in SoCal had any luck?

Just picked up the touch dual from my BB. However, will this work with a mac?

this is so annoying. Once again, Chicago metro area - none on hand, non in distribution. What's the point of these announcements anyhow if they can't be fulfilled - may as well be "Diamond available at Best Buy now" for the effectiveness it has.
Riddle me this - is the old touch that has been available gray market up til now the same unit? If it is - and since I'll be ripping my rom apart anyhow -- I may go back to my fave gray marketers.
Hyper: not without jumping through hoops. As a mac guy by choice, and PC guy by work - it's too much grief. Look for third party software if it's your only choice, or install activesync in your fave windows emulator.

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Hyper: not without jumping through hoops. As a mac guy by choice, and PC guy by work - it's too much grief. Look for third party software if it's your only choice, or install activesync in your fave windows emulator.
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Didnt want to partition my mac so its running only mac OS. I have a PC so I guess I can use that too, didnt really want to though.
FWIW- Im seeing a "3G" symbol in the corner YAYYYYY.

wig said:
Riddle me this - is the old touch that has been available gray market up til now the same unit? If it is - and since I'll be ripping my rom apart anyhow -- I may go back to my fave gray marketers.
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Nope, it's not the same. The on that's been available for a while is tri-band, this one is quad-band with US 3G. Picked one up in local BB today, seems to be working just great and 3G is very snappy. Still no WiFi or GPS though:-(

Dump Rom
Cold one of you guys dump a ROm from your US version? Do they come with wm6 or wm6.1
Thanks

6.1 just dont know if this is a keeper, prob not

Anyone know how to get a gmail account working on a windows device? (So far setting up a windows device is a PITA, debating why Im switching from my Curve right now).

Hyper - start a new thread please. Let's keep this a BB thread.
Please post where you got yours everyone.

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Hyper - start a new thread please. Let's keep this a BB thread.
Please post where you got yours everyone.
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Sorry. I got everything working anyway. Only thing I dont like about the phone so far is that it washes out in the sun. Impossible to see the screen today.

Is anyone using it on US T-Mo?

I am also interested in a ROM dump of the US Touch Dual
Best Buy website for me says Pre order only. I didnt realized it released yet.
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Cold one of you guys dump a ROm from your US version? Do they come with wm6 or wm6.1
Thanks
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I dont know if anybody is already porting this rom to work with other Touch Dual devices but I am interested in a clean Rom dump too. If not lets start a thread to porting this Rom to other Dual devices or atleast why it will or wont work.
Thanks-
Jcostanza4

HTC HD2, Telstra and Australia! [RELEASE DATES!]

Hi guys,
I received word late yesterday from my contacts that Telstra will be supplying the HD2 exclusively for at least 2-3 months on the NextG network.
No word on pricing yet but I have got a loose release date! For us Aussies the wait isn't too great which is a bit of a surprise for me, I thought we'd wind up being last! So without further ado:
Just wanted to let you know we finally have an idea on the Touch HD2;
Touch HD 2 – Due for release mid - late January. Exclusive to Telstra for 2 - 3 months. Launching with Windows Mobile 6.5
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My name is already down for one, I can't wait!

I guess anyone not on Telstra can just use an imported one... Blue Fly Mobile are selling them for $900 at the moment.
Do you know if the "official" Australian version will have anything special that a UK one, for example, doesn't have?

CreepinJesus said:
I guess anyone not on Telstra can just use an imported one... Blue Fly Mobile are selling them for $900 at the moment.
Do you know if the "official" Australian version will have anything special that a UK one, for example, doesn't have?
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A NextG compatible version is what I am after so I am holding out for it.
Basically Telstra bloatware will be the only special thing on it haha. Which I'll remove with cooking my own ROM. And of course NextG compatibility.

Hopefully the main difference will be that it will have the 850 3G band, like the Touch HD did, which will make it useable on most of AT&T's 3G network in the US.

CreepinJesus said:
I guess anyone not on Telstra can just use an imported one... Blue Fly Mobile are selling them for $900 at the moment.
Do you know if the "official" Australian version will have anything special that a UK one, for example, doesn't have?
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Yea, a sweet US 3G radio.

it seems a telstra rom already leaked (841 is telstra rom code)
ftp://rom:[email protected]/Leo_HD2/Official/Leo_1.49.841.1_21869_WWE_OS.NB.rar

btw, what does it mean that the phone is only exclusive for 2-3 months? So for those 2-3mos, you can only get it through telstra (no e-retailers)? Can you get it sim-free during this time or after that time?

lude219 said:
btw, what does it mean that the phone is only exclusive for 2-3 months? So for those 2-3mos, you can only get it through telstra (no e-retailers)? Can you get it sim-free during this time or after that time?
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it simply means that in Australia, the Australian mobile phone networks like Vodaphone, Telstra, Optus, T-mobile,etc will have to wait a few months before they can have the option of selling it on their networks.
you can still get the device anywhere else in the world unlocked and as long as the device has the right network frequencies for your SIM card then you'll be fine. there are slightly different HD2's made for the world markets, because not all countries use the same network frequencies (USA being the odd-man-out of the world)
i bought my HD2 from the UK (Handtech) delivered for Au $840. the frequencies are a match for my 3mobile SIM card and the device is "unlocked" so i don't have any bull**** about vendor locking and software bloat.

Telstra/AT&T
Please post here when it is available through on online retailer with the 850Mhz Band so that US buyers on AT&T can rejoice and spend some dough...
Thanks

Am I reading this correct that the HD2 will not work on NextG? Is there a fix for this?
tchoklat

I highly doubt a Telstra released 3G mobile wouldn't work on their NextG network, kinda defeats the point.

tchoklat said:
Am I reading this correct that the HD2 will not work on NextG? Is there a fix for this?
tchoklat
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Because the HD2 runs on UMTS 900/2100MHz. You have to wait for HTC to release another model that's NextG compatible (runs 850/2100MHz UMTS) in early 2010.

damn, what do I do with my new phone then?

tchoklat said:
damn, what do I do with my new phone then?
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use it as a $800 coaster.
or sell it.

I'm using the HD2 imported from overseas 2 weeks ago through one of those dodgy Australian online retailers (electronicbazaar.com.au) and I'm happily using my nextG simcard without problems.
The phone was shipped from HK.
I have no problems browsing or coverage but technically I shouldn't be getting access to the network.
I guess the question remains as to whether I'm accessing the nextG network or not. The carrier name is "3G 3Telstra" on the dialer and I get the "H" symbol come up on the phone. That looks good enough for me.
This information, plus p3ngwin's use of the phone on 3Mobile suggests it's not accurate to say that we can't use an unbranded Leo in Australia...
@tchoklat - have you tried using the phone yet with your NextG SIM?

Yes it fails to log on and I only see the odd 'G' or 'E' come up suggesting sporadic connection to the 3G network, not NextG. I understand that the 'H' means HSPDA or NextG
Tchoklat

le_paulo said:
I'm using the HD2 imported from overseas 2 weeks ago through one of those dodgy Australian online retailers (electronicbazaar.com.au) and I'm happily using my nextG simcard without problems.
The phone was shipped from HK.
I have no problems browsing or coverage but technically I shouldn't be getting access to the network.
I guess the question remains as to whether I'm accessing the nextG network or not. The carrier name is "3G 3Telstra" on the dialer and I get the "H" symbol come up on the phone. That looks good enough for me.
This information, plus p3ngwin's use of the phone on 3Mobile suggests it's not accurate to say that we can't use an unbranded Leo in Australia...
@tchoklat - have you tried using the phone yet with your NextG SIM?
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In a way you have access to Telstra 3G but not NextG. Read this http://www.austech.info/137073-post16.html
Telstra 3G = UMTS 2100 which provides 60% population coverage
Telstra NextG = UMTS 850 which provides 99% population coverage
I have a NextG sim when I was using my TP2 (the sim is my Leo now) and on my Leo I only get the EDGE network and no NextG.

Just what I have found as we have no or limited Edge where I live so the phone is basically useless. I have listed it on Ebay for anyone interested.
Ebay item number 110471705953
thanks all.
Tony

I'll tell you what, I have the unlocked import of the HD2 in the USA on at&t and the edge data on this phone seems as good as my last 3g phone. I think the speed of the phone is making up for it. Now of coarse, WITH the 3G coverage is another story but the edge is acceptable to me on this device.

Raspster said:
I'll tell you what, I have the unlocked import of the HD2 in the USA on at&t and the edge data on this phone seems as good as my last 3g phone. I think the speed of the phone is making up for it. Now of coarse, WITH the 3G coverage is another story but the edge is acceptable to me on this device.
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I have to agree with you there. I reckons it's good enough.

HTC Hero GSM Owners : Questions!

So I've got an open T-Mobile (USA) account and I'm looking for a GSM device to fall in love with. The form factor and design of the original Hero has caught my eye for several months and I'm almost definitely sold on buying the phone.
A few questions I couldnt find solid answers to in the forums:
1. Will an factory unlocked (Non carrier branded, direct from HTC) Hero operate properly (and in 3G) on the American networK? What features will I not be able to use?
2. Purchasing the device unlocked - do I still have access to the Android market and purchasing abilities with my Gmail account?
3. Multitouch in the browser and albums - does it work as smooth as iPhone or Palm Pre?
4. I've heard the device is to go fully Multitouch with the 2.0 update - where do I get this update from and does it apply to unlocked devices?
5. Do you own one in the US and use it currently on a US GSM carrier? (Tmobile, AT&T).. how well does it work?
Please be sure to answer all the questions - I left my HTC devices (Touch Pro, Mogul, Wizard, etc) behind for a Palm Pre and I've never been happier (EVER!! ) but I want an Android phone to play around with.

These are the questions I can answer.
eightyf0ur said:
1. Will an factory unlocked (Non carrier branded, direct from HTC) Hero operate properly (and in 3G) on the American networK? What features will I not be able to use?
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You would have to get a European HTC Hero, not the Canadian HTC Hero to have full 3G on T-Mobile, due to T-Mobile use 1700MHz & 2100MHz & that's what the European Hero supports.
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2. Purchasing the device unlocked - do I still have access to the Android market and purchasing abilities with my Gmail account?
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Even if it doesn't, you can root the Hero & push all the necessary files to get all those functions.
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3. Multitouch in the browser and albums - does it work as smooth as iPhone or Palm Pre?
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Multitouch in the Stock HTC Hero browser is pretty good but not as good as the iPhone, but still good. Haven't played with the Pre browser so I don't have a opinion on it.

gu1dry said:
These are the questions I can answer.
You would have to get a European HTC Hero, not the Canadian HTC Hero to have full 3G on T-Mobile, due to T-Mobile use 1700MHz & 2100MHz & that's what the European Hero supports.
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No, I don't think that is correct. The European HTC Hero uses the 2100/1900 3G band where as T-Mobile in the Use 2100/1700. I can confirm that my HTC Hero (European, unlocked) never got 3G when I roamed onto T-Mobile U.S.A

4. From HTC in March or from these forums now.

clobber said:
No, I don't think that is correct. The European HTC Hero uses the 2100/1900 3G band where as T-Mobile in the Use 2100/1700. I can confirm that my HTC Hero (European, unlocked) never got 3G when I roamed onto T-Mobile U.S.A
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I stand corrected. Read some incorrect info & doublechecked on HTC's site & the European Hero doesn't support 1700MHz, so ya no 3G on T-Mobile.

clobber said:
No, I don't think that is correct. The European HTC Hero uses the 2100/1900 3G band where as T-Mobile in the Use 2100/1700. I can confirm that my HTC Hero (European, unlocked) never got 3G when I roamed onto T-Mobile U.S.A
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Thats horrible - I'm going to check out YouTube videos to be sure. If it doesnt Im going to be sorely disappointed! I really love this phone and having the Sprint device has made me want the European version that much more (the form factor of the European HERO is goregous compared to the way they butchered it on Sprint).

Yes because no one lies on YouTube
It's in b&w on HTC's site that the European Hero only supports 2100MHz 3G & T-mobile requires 2100 MHZ AND 1700MHz for 3G. The Canadian Hero doesn't support neither 2100MHz or 1700MHz.

gu1dry said:
Yes because no one lies on YouTube
It's in b&w on HTC's site that the European Hero only supports 2100MHz 3G & T-mobile requires 2100 MHZ AND 1700MHz for 3G. The Canadian Hero doesn't support neither 2100MHz or 1700MHz.
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Thanks for the nasty reply. I appreciate that.
One of those millions of YouTube reviews had mentioned something about the Hero supporting 3G when plopped onto a specific network. Guess I wasnt paying close enough attention. I suppose I'll be purchasing a G1 and figuring out how to install the stock rom of the HERO (or at least those fancy widgets) without turning it into a brick.

What nasty reply? Why would believe so random person, when the the manufacture of the hardware states it does support the specific radio needed for your needs. It does support 3G on specific networks, which T-Mobile is not one of them.

eightyf0ur said:
1. Will an factory unlocked (Non carrier branded, direct from HTC) Hero operate properly (and in 3G) on the American networK? What features will I not be able to use?
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Nope. No 3G..
eightyf0ur said:
2. Purchasing the device unlocked - do I still have access to the Android market and purchasing abilities with my Gmail account?
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Of course!
eightyf0ur said:
3. Multitouch in the browser and albums - does it work as smooth as iPhone or Palm Pre?
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If you buy a European version, yes.
eightyf0ur said:
4. I've heard the device is to go fully Multitouch with the 2.0 update - where do I get this update from and does it apply to unlocked devices?
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http://www.htc.com/www/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=283&act=sd&cat=all
You apply it like any other HTC update, with double clicking a exe file..
eightyf0ur said:
5. Do you own one in the US and use it currently on a US GSM carrier? (Tmobile, AT&T).. how well does it work?
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Don't know.

This is EXACTLY what I wanted! Thanks!
TheDeadCpu... if I buy a G1 what do you suggest is the best way to get the Hero rom running on it? I'm VERY new to Android development and hacking...
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Nope. No 3G..
Of course!
If you buy a European version, yes.
http://www.htc.com/www/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=283&act=sd&cat=all
You apply it like any other HTC update, with double clicking a exe file..
Don't know.
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Don't know much about the available ROMs for the G1, but head over to the G1 Android Development forum and look for a ROM with SenseUI
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=448
And find a ROM and READ the full thread

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Don't know much about the available ROMs for the G1, but head over to the G1 Android Development forum and look for a ROM with SenseUI
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=448
And find a ROM and READ the full thread
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Here we go with another 3 months of reading to find a simple answer. *jumps in*

Hero? - piece of rubbish.
Don't bother buying a Hero:
1) Battery life is rubbish
2) Lag on touchscreen is unacceptable
3) Regularly drops calls
4) Official rom updates delivered according to the Tectonic Plate movement calendar, i.e once every thousand years
5) On screen keyboard is rubbish (go on- just try typing a whole email on it aaaaargh!)
6) Lots of good apps but the rest of the phone is just not up to it yet.
7) Often does not send dtmf tones
8) Apps regularly crash
In short, mine is going on ebay for some other sucker to have to endure it.

T-Mobile HD2 running on AT&T

Hi I have picked up a HD2, unlocked it and running on AT&T network in US. My phone always says "E" as the network which is for Edge network. How do I adjust the setting/etc to ensure I am using the fastest network which AT&T offers? thanks for your help. do I need to install a AT&T cab for it? is there a cab? do I need to tweak any settings?
thanks in advance

The HD2 will only work on AT&T's edge network. No AT&T 3G with the T-mobile HD2 version.

Thanks! is that the fastest network AT&T has? IF NOT, how can I enable the option to use the fastest network line?

yellowducati996 said:
Thanks! is that the fastest network AT&T has? IF NOT, how can I enable the option to use the fastest network line?
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You're stuck. Unless you import the Telstra HD2 from Australia, you will never have 3g data on at&t. It's a hardware issue. Buyer beware.

Do a thread search there are some that have gotten faster speeds (up to 500kbs) with a workaround.
But unfortunately the T-Mo phone is physically incapable hardware-wise to do 3g speeds.
IF you NEED the 3g speeds than search the threads for the HD2 model # t9193. The phone is from Australia and has the hardware to work with ATT 3g

if you dont mind me asking were to get the rom to flash my us t mobile hd 2 to usa att please help my email [email protected] are cell is 228-313-9380 name leon

Lasabar said:
Do a thread search there are some that have gotten faster speeds (up to 500kbs) with a workaround.
But unfortunately the T-Mo phone is physically incapable hardware-wise to do 3g speeds.
IF you NEED the 3g speeds than search the threads for the HD2 model # t9193. The phone is from Australia and has the hardware to work with ATT 3g
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Yea, do a search for my thread where I talked about this. All it does is opening up a proxy to give you a somewhat faster browsing. As a note: it might or might not work in your area.
greatdad2010 said:
if you dont mind me asking were to get the rom to flash my us t mobile hd 2 to usa att please help my email [email protected] are cell is 228-313-9380 name leon
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just search for the latest htc connectionsetup and select AT&T to run.

Do you have LTE menu option on your One? (not EE customers)

I am on Three UK, and although LTE is not rolled out yet, I was surprised that the LTE menu options do not appear at all. For example, why wouldn't I have this option in case I roamed to a foreign country that provides LTE to roamers.
In the network options I only have
WCDMA only
GSM/WCDMA auto
I know those on EE have another option for LTE.
Supposedly LTE and 3G SIMs are the same. In fact Three will provide free LTE access later this year automatically and without any administrative changes.
Could others confirm, if they are not on an LTE network, whether they see the LTE option on the phones network settings?

I think the phone only shows the option to turn LTE on or off if it detects LTE on your network so it should appear automatically once Three launch LTE

I agree! I decompiled Settings.apk of the HTC One and the network selection option uses RadioInfo class to determine what should be shown on the menu. In fact I can even see CDMA & EV-DO there.

Excellent. Perfect answers. Thank you. For some reason I had it stuck in my head that it was based on the SIM provisioning. I should have realised that it is based on the capabilities of the network you are currently connected to rather than a provisioning option.

I have LTE option on mine, got it on vodafone contract from p4u though the phone is sim free/unlocked.

jonstatt said:
Excellent. Perfect answers. Thank you. For some reason I had it stuck in my head that it was based on the SIM provisioning. I should have realised that it is based on the capabilities of the network you are currently connected to rather than a provisioning option.
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Hi buddy! As promised here's the post I was talking about on the other thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39178384&postcount=674

Riyal said:
Hi buddy! As promised here's the post I was talking about on the other thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39178384&postcount=674
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Well done for finding that as it is buried in the P4U thread! Hopefully this thread will help others who wonder why they do, or do not, see LTE options in their menu!

AW: Do you have LTE menu option on your One? (not EE customers)
My Provider is o2 Germany and there is a LTE-Option.
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My Provider is o2 Germany and there is a LTE-Option.
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Hi! Could you try remove the sim card and reboot your phone and see if the LTE option is still there?

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I have LTE option on mine, got it on vodafone contract from p4u though the phone is sim free/unlocked.
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Does this mean that it will work with AT&T LTE here in the US?

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Does this mean that it will work with AT&T LTE here in the US?
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No. LTE bands in the US are way different compared to the LTE bands all around the world. I'm not sure about LTE Cat 3 though.

AW: Do you have LTE menu option on your One? (not EE customers)
Can't select anything. Menu is gray...sounds logical to me without a SimCard
Sent from my HTC One

In reviews I keep seeing HSPA and LTE versions, which led me to believe there are models without the chip needed for 4G.
There is no answer on this though so I'm not going to rush to buy one until I know.

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Can't select anything. Menu is gray...sounds logical to me without a SimCard
Sent from my HTC One
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Do you have any other sim(Must not have LTE on it's network) you could try inserting?

GSM / WCDMA / LTE auto
SIM-free from p4u using Vodafone Italy SIM, in an area not LTE covered

Oh crap Now that looks like a sign that it should have LTE option nomatter what sim you insert.
By the way could you tell me what's your baseband version?

Baseband version:
4A.13.3231.27_10.31.1131.05L

Riyal said:
Oh crap Now that looks like a sign that it should have LTE option nomatter what sim you insert.
By the way could you tell me what's your baseband version?
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I tested a T-Mobile Sim.
The LTE Menu is also available here
It´s not depend on the SIM/Provider i think

I'm not showing lte version on my 3 Handset ? Which is worrying because I took out my new 3 contact for the 3 lte upgrade
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AW: Do you have LTE menu option on your One? (not EE customers)
Here the Software/Baseband Screenshot
Sent from my HTC One