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HTC Hero interface

any chance to get it working on rhodium??
see the video...
http://www.macitynet.it/macity/aA38603/htc_hero_arriva_il_terzo_android_con_nuova_interfaccia.shtml

Nice interface, but I think it's a very long way off any hope of being ported for the Rhodium, and thats if anyone sees it as a great advantage. It would be a massive project.
Seems to be largely based on TF3D, just remoulded, and probably re-engineered. Looks a lot smoother, but then again it's only a video and they can make it look as smooth as they like! Certainly has all the trademarks of a HTC interface though....like a cross between TF3D and PointUI.
When is this device out anyway? It would be typical of HTC to announce a new one, only weeks after we've all forked out for our Rhodiums!

here's hoping HTC bundle something similar with their 6.5 update for the rhodium!

We shouldn't need to port it.
In a press release HTC have stated that the Sense UI will be rolled out across all HTC handsets, regardless of OS.
Check front page of my site in my link for more details (don't want to spam this forum as I like it here )

jeah i think the will develope it for win mobile 6.5 and android. so we can hope this interface wil come to our TP2

lhwparis said:
jeah i think the will develope it for win mobile 6.5 and android. so we can hope this interface wil come to our TP2
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i hope so...but knowing htc i think the new interface will be available for new devices (devices released after the HTC Hero...)...i hope im wrong...

I don't think so, they have promised upgrades to 6.5 for diamond 2 and touch pro 2 owners (as part of the sales blurb) and i imagine this is their big push at doing something different, creating a consistent user interface throughout their range regardless of OS.
I think they really want to dominate and they're certainly doing a good job so far.
Now if only I could get flash working with the default browser...

dazkeirle said:
We shouldn't need to port it.
In a press release HTC have stated that the Sense UI will be rolled out across all HTC handsets, regardless of OS.
Check front page of my site in my link for more details (don't want to spam this forum as I like it here )
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yeah, I have checked it but it also say that it will be available on all new HTC devices moving forward this takes TP2 out of the loop as it is older. Unless they will plan it for the promised WM6.5 version ..

Either way if it's coming to newer devices I'm sure the geniuses here can work out a way to get it running on the TP2 without much effort

this Hero (HTC Sense) really really adorable
Tried android with Raphael, i love the new OS experience

dazultra2000 said:
Either way if it's coming to newer devices I'm sure the geniuses here can work out a way to get it running on the TP2 without much effort
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Exactly – thx God for XDA developers :-D
sometimes I wonder whether any other platform has such a great support .. well who cares … we DO :-D

Mashe said:
yeah, I have checked it but it also say that it will be available on all new HTC devices moving forward this takes TP2 out of the loop as it is older. Unless they will plan it for the promised WM6.5 version ..
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...as i said...

thats waht i said. i think the new interface will come with new windows mobile 6.5 devices. if we have a little luck the TP2 win6.5 update will come with this interface too

lhwparis said:
thats waht i said. i think the new interface will come with new windows mobile 6.5 devices. if we have a little luck the TP2 win6.5 update will come with this interface too
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and if not that XDA will (hopefully)

Do want!
Looks like a big improvement over TF3D.
Hopefully we'll get this in the official 6.5 upgrade...

yes yes
Lightbulb HTC Hero TF3D Manila 2.1 V2.0 on TP2
it works on mine TP2
cab fils @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538826

I believe this is called PointSense...
You can see more here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=542107
Apparently this works but it's slower than the TF3D

WebOS on the HD2?

I know this may sound like a stupid question but since I saw this
http://www.product-reviews.net/2010/04/12/htc-incredible-running-webos-could-drop-android/
and I've always liked the WebOS platform I thought that it must be possible considering the HD2's much superior specs 600mhz vs 1ghz, ect. The WebOS platform still has the best games of any other platform (apart from the iphone) and it would be great to be able to play them on some decent hardware. I know this might not be possible but if they put it on the incredible then it might?
Please give your thoughts, I'm still looking forward to the Android port aswell but from experience using android on my Diamond and on friend's Android phones games weren't very impressive and the pre's are!
If any developers can give their thoughts it would be much appreciated.

would be nice if we could run it but i doubt it will happen

microang said:
I know this may sound like a stupid question but since I saw this
http://www.product-reviews.net/2010/04/12/htc-incredible-running-webos-could-drop-android/
and I've always liked the WebOS platform I thought that it must be possible considering the HD2's much superior specs 600mhz vs 1ghz, ect. The WebOS platform still has the best games of any other platform (apart from the iphone) and it would be great to be able to play them on some decent hardware. I know this might not be possible but if they put it on the incredible then it might?
Please give your thoughts, I'm still looking forward to the Android port aswell but from experience using android on my Diamond and on friend's Android phones games weren't very impressive and the pre's are!
If any developers can give their thoughts it would be much appreciated.
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web os isnt opensource so it would be almost impossible to port. The devs are having a hard enough time with android lol

On the article says that it would be nice if that happened, but no one put webos on the incredible.
And at the end palm was bought for HP not for HTC
I rather android on the hd2, never try web os but web os on hd2 is not going to happened... sadly.

It's back
Hey, thought I'd revive this thread and see if anyone other than me cared- with webOS 2 coming along maybe there's some interest in a port?

Seems not
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Hey, thought I'd revive this thread and see if anyone other than me cared- with webOS 2 coming along maybe there's some interest in a port?
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Seems not!

will9895 said:
Seems not!
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you gathered that from waiting 12 hours? well done

WebOS is built on the linux kernel, so it actually is open-source and I don't see a port as impossible:
http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Source-code-for-Palm-WebOS-released-742117.html

orangekid said:
WebOS is built on the linux kernel, so it actually is open-source and I don't see a port as impossible:
http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Source-code-for-Palm-WebOS-released-742117.html
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So would that source code mentioned on this link be the entire base of the OS? Or are there some parts that Palm kept for itself? Has anyone heard whether HP plan to release the source code for WebOS 2?
Richy99 said:
you gathered that from waiting 12 hours? well done
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yeah i could do with being a bit more patient, also thought I'd try and keep it floating. Although I'm not going to dogmatically keep it high. If only I had the time to learn and do it myself- I love what people do on here.

[Q] Now WebOS on HD2?

It seems there's been little interest in previous mentions of WebOS on the HD2, and it's not gone anywhere. I saw that there is development of WebOS for the Hero:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=822401
I wondered if it would be possible to use this development to port to the HD2 as we already have the android builds running well? Correct me if I'm wrong- i know nothing about developing, I just loved the Pre until I got close to the hardware!

Someone posted earlier today in IRC the root.img and the source code for that. I'm sure Mdeejay could do something with it.

ill eat my own **** if this phone can boot into winmo/wp7/android/ubuntu/ and webos lmaoo jk about the eating part haha

alleyezondisromo said:
ill eat my own **** if this phone can boot into winmo/wp7/android/ubuntu/ and webos lmaoo jk about the eating part haha
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Most probably you will sir! You can have as many os as you want and it's possible!

I loved WebOS. Just always wished it was on bigger hardware like our HD2. I would give my left Nut to have a functioning WebOS ROM

Guys why is it soo good ?
What does it have over other OSes

WebOs is the best yet. Just need more hardware behind it..
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souljaboy said:
Guys why is it soo good ?
What does it have over other OSes
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I've got to admit I've not used it extensively, but I walked into O2 stores and tried the demo phones and it was the most fluid experience I've had. I'd love to try WP7, and of course I've loaded froyo ( and ubuntu) but I've found android frustrating as information just isn't accessible without jumping in and out of an app, and I'm worried WP7 will be similar. No multitasking is a big downer for me- I do loads of work and research on my phone. With CHT2 Sense seems great, if only it was abit more stable! I'm hopeful on that one though! but yeah, WebOS seems so smooth I forgot I was moving between applications.
alleyezondisromo:
Meego too- i nearly went an N900 over the HD2, now glad I didn't!

souljaboy said:
Guys why is it soo good ?
What does it have over other OSes
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Go play with one for 10 minutes. You'll quickly see why webOS is a juggernaut among mobile operating systems.
Everything else just feels like **** (pretty much) once you use and have experienced webOS's fluidity and easy of use.

eadams1975 said:
I loved WebOS. Just always wished it was on bigger hardware like our HD2. I would give my left Nut to have a functioning WebOS ROM
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I agree. My nephew has a Palm Pixi and WebOS is truly sweet. Ever since he got his Pixi I have been yearning for WebOS on my HD2. If the Acer Liquid Stream launcher worked better, it would suffice me. But it has some bad issues.

Can we like start a poll for development of webOS on the HD2?
webOS (sorry Google, sorry Apple) is surely the best mobile OS out there. (I Know, I've had them all).

Well one plus side to it, is it supports homebrewing.

What does it take to code a port like that? A bunch of assembly language programming and hardware interfacing? Honestly I have wanted WebOS on any device for a long time. Since it's based on linux, shouldn't there be a way to somehow set it on top of an Ubuntu build/Android build?
And on top of that, wouldn't HP's legal team be raping anyone who even thought about attempting to port WebOS on anything?
http://www.webosroundup.com/2010/12/hacked-webos-appears-on-htc-hero/
According to this source, the entire development on the hero was a hoax. Can anyone confirm?

Any screenshots??

I would be surprised if HP made any attempts to stamp out a port of WebOS. HP has been supportive of the WebOS homebrew scene, and they need to increase their user base by any means necessary. Just like Microsoft with WP7 it's in their best interest to turn a blind eye to this sort of thing at least until their "ecosystem" has a better foothold.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE can we have webOS on our HD2's
Its more powerful has a bigger screen and well its an HD2...
the Palms are way to small for such an amazing UI.
Where do I donate to help this along ??????

Forreal..i would also donate myself...

I would love to see webOS on our HD2's. Haven't had the opportunity to use it yet, but I've heard nothing but good things about it. Also heard it's very easy to port iPhone games to and it plays them just as good as the iphone... with HP behind it now, we'll probably be seeing lots of games and apps for that os.

HD2 Meego is a success?!

I did not see news of this posted, but I'm not sure how credible the sources are because I cannot find HD2 info on the links posted, maybe you guys can understand this better.
http://www.techtree.com/India/News/HTC_HD2_gets_Android_NAND_ROM_MeeGo_11_Install/551-114013-580.html
http://blog.steventroughtonsmith.com/2010/12/meego-11-running-on-htcs-hd2.html

I didn't know it was possible to load Meego on the HD2 :O. Just got Android NAND, but I would like to see this on there as wel.

I watched the video how HD2 running Meego. It's laggy. Seems need some development but that video shows running Meego is possible on HD2. They's linux base anyway.

So, i will ask question in more general way:
Will i be able to test meego without deleting data of my current NAND Android?

matejdro said:
So, i will ask question in more general way:
Will i be able to test meego without deleting data of my current NAND Android?
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From what I can tell you might need windows mobile because it might need Haret to start. I am not certain though, its just a guess.

matejdro said:
So, i will ask question in more general way:
Will i be able to test meego without deleting data of my current NAND Android?
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Vampir1c said:
From what I can tell you might need windows mobile because it might need Haret to start. I am not certain though, its just a guess.
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Here is a post from the dude developing it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11174066&postcount=145
this means you can keep you Android NAND rom just fine

anyway my opinion that MEEGO future is unknown now.
Looks like Nokia plans to release first phone with X86 inside, it can means that ARM versions won't be developed at all (or won't be so cool, like X86)
As well I heard nokia plans to use own programs, which will replace MEEGO standard. It can result in bad quality of this internal programs, because all will use Nokia's own versions.
As well I don't think other manufactures will support MEEGO a lot - they have Android for choose, which is more preferable from market point of view.
Anyway, time will show the truth

Cotulla said:
anyway my opinion that MEEGO future is unknown now.
Looks like Nokia plans to release first phone with X86 inside, it can means that ARM versions won't be developed at all (or won't be so cool, like X86)
As well I heard nokia plans to use own programs, which will replace MEEGO standard. It can result in bad quality of this internal programs, because all will use Nokia's own versions.
As well I don't think other manufactures will support MEEGO a lot - they have Android for choose, which is more preferable from market point of view.
Anyway, time will show the truth
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that's a shame, they see how successful the Android model is and then choose to do this?

i would like to see webOS on the HD2... from SD... 1+

tfouto said:
i would like to see webOS on the HD2... from SD... 1+
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+1
i have a Palm Pre...but the screen is to little for me...but the WebOS is awesome.!

WEBOS
Agreed, would love to see WebOS on the HD2 as well. I heard it is linux based like Android, which should make it easier to port.
But HP would be all over any developer who released it I think.

Darth_Fictional said:
Agreed, would love to see WebOS on the HD2 as well. I heard it is linux based like Android, which should make it easier to port.
But HP would be all over any developer who released it I think.
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Since webOS runs on the Linux kernel, it is open source. The source code must be released (and has been) per the GPL and anyone can port it if they want to, minus any proprietary apps and stuff I guess.

Cotulla said:
anyway my opinion that MEEGO future is unknown now.
Looks like Nokia plans to release first phone with X86 inside, it can means that ARM versions won't be developed at all (or won't be so cool, like X86)
As well I heard nokia plans to use own programs, which will replace MEEGO standard. It can result in bad quality of this internal programs, because all will use Nokia's own versions.
As well I don't think other manufactures will support MEEGO a lot - they have Android for choose, which is more preferable from market point of view.
Anyway, time will show the truth
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Well, Nokia is now siding with Windows Phone 7, which makes alot of sense from a buisness standpoint, but that leaves MeeGo is a strange situation. Nokia still have plans to release a MeeGo phone, but nothing seems clear after that. Theres no word if another phone manufacturer will pick it up for themselves. Right now MeeGo is in between a rock and a hard place.

t's laggy. Seems need some development but that video shows running Meego is possible on HD2

When WebOS

So, any plans to bring WebOS to the HD2, now that it's opensource?

webOS is a good OS, but i hope devs will continue on meego first

What has WebOS got to do with Ubuntu?

What has WebOS got to do with Android or WM?)

WebOS isn't yet open-sourced, HP just said it will do that. No sources are available as of now, and it's silly to ask when it'll be ported to HD2 if we even don't know when sources will be available. But, it might me easier to port than meego, as meego's most interesting version (from nokia n9) is closed-source, and opensource meego is, according to devs, not much usable.

Glebaka said:
What has WebOS got to do with Android or WM?)
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What has your question got to do with price of fish?
My question was in relation to him putting this topic in the Ubuntu section when it should have been the HD2 General section.

sado1 said:
WebOS isn't yet open-sourced, HP just said it will do that. No sources are available as of now, and it's silly to ask when it'll be ported to HD2 if we even don't know when sources will be available. But, it might me easier to port than meego, as meego's most interesting version (from nokia n9) is closed-source, and opensource meego is, according to devs, not much usable.
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Web OS is open source..
http://opensource.palm.com/packages.html

neerajp said:
Web OS is open source..
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This one looks like kernel (and possibly some other GPL-ed components) sources. And it is there probably since a long time. So no, WebOS isn't open source yet.

Sorry for posting the question here. I thought , as nobody really looks at the meego board anymore, I should ask it here as the guys'n'gals that are into porting Ubuntu to the HD2 are a little more hardcore and thus apt to give an honest perspective on whether or not this could happen. I read on the Verge that someone had it running on the Evo 3D so maybe it isn't that far fetched.
As I have understood some of the UI/UX stuff is not open source yet.
We shall come back to this discussion when it's time for that.

WebOS? I'm still waitng for further development of Ubuntu! Sound? Calls? Magldr?

Bumping for interest and the sake of prosperity for our mighty HD2...
Face it Meego is going nowhere slow, if anywhere at all... With the announcements of nokia going to wp. Ubuntu is making very small but slow baby steps...
So why not stir up a craze that'd baffle the internet media once again with the viral power of what the HD2 can do?
It's been ported to many other HTC devices so why not our HD2? We can't just let it die with millions of android and wp builds and lack of interest in other projects such as linux and meego, so I only see one other hurdle to jump that being WebOS.

Well, we'd have to find someone, who could port it... If I wasn't a total failure when it comes to programming and stuff, maybe I could do it :x
The difference between Android and other OSes is Android is popular and it's rather easy to cook a ROM... But here, we'd have to work from scratch. And nobody wants that. Shame on you, community, shame!

The only thing I see possibly coming next for the HD2 is WP8 (Maybe, if it's possible or at WP7.8) I rather hate WP and still love my huge variety of apps and customability with WM... I'm doing Win95 on it, Boxmax SD XDAndroid Sense and Ubuntu...
I don't see why or how it'd be so hard if so many other HTC's have it running already, get the closest build with matching spec's between the HTC HD2 and whatever HTC is remotely similar to our in hardware, edit it for Android maybe and change the drivers of the HTC (In question) to the HTC HD2 in code by similarity of Android builds for HD2. On a side note, I read that the HTC Evo 4G is the same phone as the HD2 on XDA, so if we could find a WebOS Build for that we'd be off to a good start. Then onto the debugging and next step is glory.
If I knew anything about coding and cooking I'd give it a whack, but I don't know much about it.

+1 on WebOS on the HD2...
I have it on the Touchpad and I love it!

TheATHEiST said:
What has WebOS got to do with Ubuntu?
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They are both Linux based operating systems...that's why

n1nj4Lo said:
Bumping for interest and the sake of prosperity for our mighty HD2...
Face it Meego is going nowhere slow, if anywhere at all... With the announcements of nokia going to wp. Ubuntu is making very small but slow baby steps...
So why not stir up a craze that'd baffle the internet media once again with the viral power of what the HD2 can do?
It's been ported to many other HTC devices so why not our HD2? We can't just let it die with millions of android and wp builds and lack of interest in other projects such as linux and meego, so I only see one other hurdle to jump that being WebOS.
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So why not stir up a craze that'd baffle the internet media once again with the viral power of what the HD2 can do?

but why do we even need a webOS?
its btr we try something like win 8 and do the impossible

tanush said:
but why do we even need a webOS?
its btr we try something like win 8 and do the impossible
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because webOS is opensource and Windows 8 is not..

tanush said:
but why do we even need a webOS?
its btr we try something like win 8 and do the impossible
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Windows 8 is Windows 7 and we did that already, we'd just be spinning our wheels or going backwards then instead of moving forward with bootable os'es.
If you want Windows 8 so bad on your HD2 hunt around for a 7.8 rom, closest you'll prolly get. Anyways you could get in a whole lot more trouble cooking an OS/Rom onto an unsupported phone that hasn't even been released yet to normal consumer users yet.
WebOS would be great those who aren't ready for Android or don't want it and those who don't like WP, but desire something other than WinMo 6.5.

WebOS is dead...
Still would love to see a new OS once in a while. +1 for WebOS, +1 for MeeGo, +1 for Firefox OS (or whatsisname)