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unable to restore data after ROM upgrade

I just upgraded to the latest ROM's supplied by O2 (3.17.03), and now active sync says my backup was made with the wrong version of software.
Is there any way to get the data back on to my XDA? In particular my contacts, as they will be the hardest to replace?
If not, is it possible to go back to the old ROM? (the radio ROM upgrade warned not to downgrade roms)

ActiveSync backup can be only restored to the same ROM. The best way to backup contacts is to use Outlook. Yes, you can flash your ROM back to the previous version, restore the contacts, backup them to Outlook, flash the new ROM then sync with Outlook to get the contacts list

there ma ybe another way
So i was about to download the old ROM updates from http://www.sourceo2.com/O2_Developers/Devices/O2_Xda/xda_ROM_Archive.htm
When i read the readme on that page. It says that active sync can only restore to a device with exactly the same partnership/device ID. It says you must delete the existing partnership and recreate it.
So i have done that, and a resotre is currently in progress (restoring a full backup from an old rom, to the new rom version of my walaby).
I will post back in 10 minutes when it has finished to let everyone know what has/hasnt been restored.

check for reginal settings.
In case it was changes to customize your device before upgrage - change them now from default.
it is not recommended to restore after ROM upgrade, tho...

restore not reccomended
I suppose i can understand why, but in any case i dont use outlook. So i cant see me having much choice...
Btw, does anyone know of software to sync the XDA to mozilla (preferable under linux too!)

backup to SD card
Out of curiosity, the pdf i read regarding the upgrade said you can back up to a SD card too.
Is this any different to backing up via ActiveSync? Is it any less risky to restore such a backup after an upgrade?

Up to my information, it has the same issue ... SD backup can't be restored to a different ROM version.

http://synce.sourceforge.net/synce/
sync with
evolution

cynce
Looks good... anyone tried to sync with Mozilla Thunderbird??

Restore worked
So the restore seems to have worked... kind of...
The thing runs, but the old sms messages are only in the index, and i cant seem to delete them or view them.
The new programs from the upgrade dont seem to be here, though they could be lying around in a folder somwhere i havent looked.
My Fiitaly install works, though the input method occasinaly tries to be the transcriber even though it shouldnt be.
All in all, its usable, but when i have time i will be finding a copy of outlook just to back up the contacts and then flashing the ROM again and installing everything else again.
A note to anyone else who might be trying the same thing, all your notes etc can be backed up just by activesync synchronising your XDA mydocuments with a sub-folder of your pc's mydocuments. Then hopefully outlook can do the contacts and appointments. Dunno what you'd have to do if you wanted to save your sms messages or call log or anything

Results
Well, instead od studying for my exams (yup, just like me to do this) I installed Outlook, synchronised the XDA, flashed it again, synchronised it again, installed my software and it seems to be pretty good!
Lost my sms messages, but thats no problem to me.
2 things that are odd:
I had to add a shortcut to notes.exe in the start menu because it didnt exist
Also, i cannot create new accounts, ie gprs email ones. Of course, this would only be useful if the new ROM supports encrypted IMAP connections. Does it? Is there a free (or maybe cheap) third party solution that does?

Moving 'My Documents' to Storage after BS mod

Happy New year to all
I've been following with this site for quite sometime until i decide to switch from HP 6365 to o2 Mini/Magician.
I've successfully mod my Mini to BS with TMob 1.13 rom & 1.13 Radio. I'm just wondering if there's any possibilities to hack the default My Documents which resides in RAM to Storage. After all I still have 17MB free Storage after BS even having all my apps install in it.
I've tried few apps with registry editor but can't find anything that relates to My Documents location. What i mean is like Windows XP where you can change the default My Doc's from \Doc..& Settings..\User...etc to the folder that you want . eg: D:\My Documents
This will actually save a little time to backup the My Documents contents in the event you get a corrupted or format your C:\ in Windows Xp or Hard Reset in the case of PPC. Simply do a restore & I have the last state that i wanted or backup.
My intention is to configure my PPC with alll the customize apps, settings & etc and do a backup. In the event i need to do a Hard Reset, i'll just need to restore my OS from backup without the needs to backup or lose anything especially the My Documents. Like i said, restore & i have the last state of OS & cofig of the last state that i wanted to.
Been searching this forum but the search functions doesn't find me any results that relate to this. Anyone have such a wild idea?
Here's my apps in storage.
SPB Pocket Plus 3
Sprite Backup 3
PocketX Photo Contact Pro 4
Cab Installer
Vcard Receiver
Flexwallet 2006
Resco Explorer
Sk Tools
Tweaks2K
Ampda Camera

kanryu said:
I'm just wondering if there's any possibilities to hack the default My Documents which resides in RAM to Storage. After all I still have 17MB free Storage after BS even having all my apps install in it.
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My intention is to configure my PPC with alll the customize apps, settings & etc and do a backup. In the event i need to do a Hard Reset, i'll just need to restore my OS from backup without the needs to backup or lose anything especially the My Documents. Like i said, restore & i have the last state of OS & cofig of the last state that i wanted to.
Been searching this forum but the search functions doesn't find me any results that relate to this. Anyone have such a wild idea?
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Wild Idea: Leave your "My Documents" folder where it is. Use Sprite Backup to do regular (scheduled, automatically running) backups of your device and save this backup to storage as an compressed exe. That way, after a hard reset you only have to launch File Explorer, start the backup file, restore, reset, takes less than 2 minutes. Depending on how many programs are stored in RAM (non-BS) and how many/how large documents are on your device it should work flawlessly.

Thanks for the info & kind attentions. I do practice a good backup.
I'm just looking at the hack/mod as a "bonus" if it is possible.
Cheers!

kanryu: since you suggested it, try to test this out.
I suggest you do this before installing any other app, because My Documents is a system setting used in many installations and they may get confused.
HKLM > Explorer > Shell Folders > My Documents
The storage card isn't always available at boot up, so again, it might cause problems. Storage might be a better idea then storage card. But this can already be configured in the options menu in Notes, at least.
V

Perhaps you can move all of the stuff to the storage ( not the card) and then put a shortcut from main memory to the storage card directory?

with some registry modifications as well. Some software only default the storage of data to \My Documents folder so merely moving everything to Storage and creating a shortcut won't do.

O2mini_noob: which registry mods did you use?
Have you guys tried the registry keys above?
V

I have tried this hack long time ago, wishing I counld change BT dir, but it did not work.. Storage Card & Storage, both failed...
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Explorer\Shell Folders]
"Templates"="\\Storage\\My Documents\\Templates"
"Windows"="\\Windows"
"StartUp"="\\Windows\\StartUp"
"Recent"="\\Windows\\Recent"
"Programs"="\\Windows\\Programs"
"Program Files"="\\Program Files"
"My Documents"="\\My Documents"
"Fonts"="\\Windows\\Fonts"
"Favorites"="\\Windows\\Favorites"
"Desktop"="\\Windows\\Desktop"
"Application Data"="\\Application Data"
as you can see.. only templates works ( since it's not related to the OS it self )... I tried changing Fonts dir as well, did not work either
I guess this has to do with the OS it self... so it is impossible to change it..

sorry Vijay, I was merely adding to stevedebi's quote of moving the entire \My Documents to storage. Obviously you have to do some registry changes to make it happen but wouldn't be as easy as that.

To OP.
I *think* I have a similar problem to you.
Basically I want to sync my files to/from my PC/PDA but the ram on my blueangel is way to small where as my 1 gig SD ram has vastly more than I need.
Now, i have managed to relocate my Sync briefcase on the PC to d:\briefcase. All well and good, this now trys to sync to the Pda's volatile ram way to much data .... so, im half way there.
Now, how can I tell the sync software or PDA's OS to sync to a folder on the SD RAM card?
I know I can put the SDcard into my PC but this is not what I want to achieve, i want it to be seemless and done in the craddle much like contacts etc are done.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance!

vijay555 said:
kanryu: since you suggested it, try to test this out.
I suggest you do this before installing any other app, because My Documents is a system setting used in many installations and they may get confused.
HKLM > Explorer > Shell Folders > My Documents
The storage card isn't always available at boot up, so again, it might cause problems. Storage might be a better idea then storage card. But this can already be configured in the options menu in Notes, at least.
V
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I've tried this before. Everything under this tree has been rename to \storage\my documents But after a soft reset, some of the key will revert back to default. ???
Seems like only those template folder are moveable. I'm started to suspect \My Documents are not fully handled by registry.
I'm wondering how clean the system can be if you need a 3rd party software to edit the registry such as Resco, PHM & etc. I know it's best to do it with a clean system but.... unless there's a way to edit the registry out of the PPC, or there's a standalone executeable software, which I have yet to found.
I'll see what can be figured out next. Hopefully this idea is not a 'fat hope' :?

Don't you guys try to create another "My Documents" folder in the BS and link to it a shortcut (from today)?
I have put to c-launch a link to /storage card/my documents and all is well!!!

WM5 cannot install, uninstall, delete

Hello,
I am ****ed. I did nothing in particular except installing some new programs especially in the last phm regedit (but i did not use the prog) and suddenly the following problem occured.
1. I cannot see any applications listed in the "Remove Programs" views
plus
2. I cannot delete any Files in the whole System, no matter built in, or storage card
It seem that I have lost all my permissions.
The only thing I can still do is editing the registry as it seems.
I cannot backup anything. I cannot install any new programs.
If I have to hard reset now I will loose all my contacts since I only have half of them on my simcard.
Please help me out somehow.
What do I need to change in the registry, in order te be able to do something again (at least install a backup programm in order to keep my contacts).
Or,how can I save all my contacts to sim - I could not find this option in the contacts view.
Please .. desperately help needed.
D

I rekon you'll need to hard reset and lose all your contacts. That'll learn you for not having them all backed up, eh?
Also, Please don't swear in the thread title. Some people read this at work.

Sync your contacts with pc and you'll save all.

@No.1 ... yes, I removed that bad word from the title and already am happy again with my "new" hard-resetted Wizard... only needed approx. 3 hours for everything
I was very upset when I wrote the above, since Sprite Backup does not work at the moment and I rely normally 100% on it
@No.2 ... also yes ... an older company laptop with Active Synch installed saved many of my contacts

there is a file in the root directory called pim.vol. This contains all of your contacts, call history info, tasks and calendar data (maybe some other stuff I haven't figured out yet too). Copy this to a storage card, hard reset, drop it back into the root directory and overwrite the new one, soft reset and all of your info is back. Anytime I add a new contact or important calendar info I back up my pim.vol just incase something bad happens and I need to hard reset.

wow ... thanx very much for the heads up ... I am this will save me from a lot of future troubles

What to backup ...

... before an hard reset ?
:lol:
Well, my Qtek S200 with tonz of apps installed (mostly on the 4GB SD card) became quite slow. Mostly at boot, worst than before.
I periodically back it up by Sprite Backup, but now I would perform an hard reset to clean up and start again from skratch. And reinstall appz with some criteria :wink:
So, I'm here to ask a checklist for things to backup and how.
For example,
- export registry keys for the personal identification (how to export?)
- startup apps
- ...
Thanks for any hint

Anybody ?
P.S.: where could I find a ROM upgrade for the Italian QTEK S200 ?
As I'm planning to hard reset...
Thanks

...backup verything. I use SQB Backup for backup (ppc files only and not SDcard): pim contacts, emails, system and my document. These you can restore customized.
I backup everytime after i installed some goods.
With PHM register editor i create also backups, only register though...
...sd card backups i won't create because i save the cabs on the pc...

Thanks for your answer.
I always backup everything with Sprite Backup 5.1 (WM5), but when it restores data, everything come back to my actual status.
How could I save ONLY the user profile (inside the registry, I guess) and the most important configs ?
I'll restore (reinstall) the app programs later
P.S.: all programs are installed on my SD card. I noticed most of them, even moved across directories, keep working. This case, should I re-install them, or could I use them as is, simply linking the executable in the storage card directory ?
Thanks again

...i'm sorry to say but you had to create a good working backup earlier. A register is filled with thousends of keys and you can't find a sort of userprofile.
If you've got an up-to-date backup then you can start from zero: you've got already everything by hand.
Perfom hard reset and create backup with minimun install like pim contacts, emails and internet settings. Then install next thing etc. If you need something immediately you can restore backup from before hard reset.
Every program with is installed on SD card won't be executeted before you accept it (that means that shareware could be used unendlessly instead of b.e. 5 times) but you don't have to install them again. So after reset they are immeditate accessable. Best to have made a copy of startpage\programs so you can copy them after hardreset back so you don't have to seek through all the folders on SDcard.
Only all the programs installed on the ppc you've got to install after hard reset again
You can also schedule backups, i.e. daily, which create a backup with only the changes compare to last one. I've got fullbackups of ±12Mb and incrementel of ±8Mb.
So I perform always fullbackups which i delete weekly...

[IDEA][DEV NEEDED] Simple app to back up contacts in TF3D 2.1/2.5 ROMS.

I was playing around earlier today and noticed that a convenient way to backup your contacts in a ROM that has TF3D 2.1 or 2.5 is to copy your pim.vol from the root of main memory to the root of the storage card.
What I did was I copied the file to my storage card, flashed a ROM, then copied the file back to the root of main memory and then performed a soft-reset. ALL of my contacts and also my TF3D favorites were all backed up and successfully restored after I rebooted the phone.
What would I like to see? A program that performs the following 3 simple tasks:
1. Copy "pim.vol" from the root of main memory to the root of the storage card. (BACKUP)
2. Copy the "pim.vol" from the root of the storage card back to the root of main memory, overwriting the existing one. (RESTORE)
3. Soft reset after successfully completing step 2.
The program doesn't have to be pretty, just functional. It would be really nice for it to be finger friendly and to have skin support as well but that is not important.
If anyone thinks they can churn out a program like this you'd be doing a great justice to the whole community. ALOT of TF3D 2.1/2.5 users would be very grateful seeing as how current back up options(other than ActiveSync) do not work right anymore with the newer versions of TF3D.

I would also like to see something like this I know I could use 2 different programs to possibly accomplish this but I would like to see one program that backs to my storage card and works in the new versions of TFLO. I was using PimBackup but then 2.1 wouldnt work with it and then I would have to enter my favorites a Back up of both with one program would be awesome.

I can write a mortscript to do that. However, I think it might be in SASHIMI or whatever it is called.
Check it out...install once to storage card and has lots of features...even multi cab installs like UC.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=543605
dwizzy130

also backup / restore appointments, tasks, call logs......
is it possibile ?

I just think it would be nice to have a complete on-ppc backup and restore option for ROMs sporting the new manila 2.1 and or 2.5. Currently there is none.

Did you try this?
It doesn't do the entire PIM.VOL but it does restore a lot of the TF3D2 contact info including ringtones if I'm not mistaken.

If you still want a simple program which will do exactly as you wanted in the first thread, I will gladly make it.
Just please PM me and I will make it

Well, here you go.
It should do exactly as you said in the first post.
Sadly it hasn't got skin support, but it is very finger friendly (its just 3 big buttons)
Please tell me off if it goes wrong, or congratulate me if it works :3
Just a quick PM to let me know if it works would be nice.
Cris
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