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2009 HTC new phone lineup.....so many phones...so little android..

Check out this one:
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=2373
Whaddaya think fellas? Any taker???
I don't really like the new G2 design....too much chin and they add that stupid my-fave button on bottom left corner. On top of that...still no 3.5mm headphone Jack !!!!!!
On the other hand, that "supposely" new Wing (Rhodium) is looking hot. I hope the screen is as big/hi-res as the touch HD....and run on android. that would be a dream phone....(pun intended). put a 5MP camera with auto-focus, dual xenon flash, and 3.5mm headphone jack and this phone will sure be a winner. I will pawn my G1 to fleaBay faster than israel drop phosporous bombs in the Gaza
Topaz C finally got something right....3.5mm jack....but majority of the new phones DO NOT have 3.5mm. When will HTC learn that miniUSB jack is such a nuisance....especially for high-end phones that run android
The Cedar look way too similar with the Treo, but the 3G excalibur (3G dash) look pretty good.
The firestone/Whitestone got some pretty good features, but lack of physical keyboard is a no deal for meh
Hero (android ver) looks pretty cute...for the geeky girls out there...but the Memphis....looks pretty disappointing...

I like the Tungsten better than Rhodium, maybe it's just the color scheme but both are nice and would be fine with WimMo (preferably Android). It has buttons. I like buttons, touch is only good for so much.
Sapphire? Like an aerodynamic Dream. Looks kinda like an egg. Not digging the Hero. It's like the opposite - a more jagged Dream.
As far as an Android phone goes I'll hold onto the Dream until Android's capabilities outgrow the hardware. I didn't like the design at fist when I got it but it has grown on me. They'll prolly all look cooler as finished products. Like with all HTC phones what's under the hood will be what sells me one it.

The only thing that would really convince me to upgrade out of Dream is VGA or WVGA display. Also, big minus points for the "Hero" if it really has no trackball or tactile buttons.

from a local aussie site:
http://www.channelnews.com.au/Communication/Mobile_Phones/S4W3S8V5
can't wait for it....

HUGE disappointment....

Im closing this thread. This kind of postings leads to no good. Flaming is not accepted
Itje
After receiving my X1 yesterday, I was TOTALLY disappointed. What a piece of shi*
The thing is SLOW, the screen is TINY, and the panels interface....what a waste of time and energy. I've always used WM phones in the past and owned the original iPhone and then the 3G iPhone. I love my iPhone and hate it at the same time (don't worry this isn't an iPhone fanboy post). I need my cut and paste, and overall basic functionality without having to jailbreak the damn thing to make i do what I want.
So I thought I would cop an Xperia. It didn't last 24 hrs before I decided to RMA that puppy right back to SonyStyle.
What I hated about it:
- Screen was TINY. I was really shocked at how small it was. The screen and the unit itself. The web pictures and reviews don't really paint a picture of how small this thing is. Small and light is good, but the screen is crappy after coming from an iPhone.
- Touchscreen? I think not. The touch screen is no more touch than a PPC-6700.
- SLOOOOOOOW
- After charging it and waking up this morning the screen was defunct. It was like the contrast was turned all the way up or something. The sceen looked totally washed out. Major disappointment.
Overall I was just really let down. This phone is not work $799. Maybe I set my expectations too high, but it wasn't at all what I was expecting.
Not to mention I was already thinking about putting TouchFLo on it, then I said...why am I trying to put TouchFLo on this piece of crap when I can just get me a Touch HD and be done with it.
I want the CLOSEST thing to an iPhone style setup but with ease/convenience/flexibility of Windows Mobile. I PRAY that I won't be disappointed with the Touch HD I just purchased.

I understand how you feel. If I were you, I would have just installed TF3D onto your xperia. That's the clostest to an iphone setup. I have an iphone too and it takes some getting use to the xperia touch screen.

almost the opposite, after using it for the day, im put my iphone 3g up on ebay for sale
using Touch-IT Xperi.v3.5 and disabled the panel and X key, it is fast and responsive. the only disappointment is the screen is lower than surrounding. really good resolution.

Also topic creator, HTC makes this "crap" phone that you speak of (xperia) Same company who makes the touch HD

Yea I understand I would try it with the new updated ROM R2 (but you have already RMA'd it) but I felt the same way - for the price it should be much better - I feel the real problem is with the software and the latest SONY released ROMs have made the phone actually work.

yogi:
I'm fully aware that HTC makes the Xperia. I'm sure Sony had a lot to do with how they wanted their phone to operate. I'm generally just not pleased with it. I feel good about the Touch HD. I think it's going to be the closest I can get to a Windows Mobile funtional OPEN phone with iPhone like useability. I should have known the X1 wasn't going to be much different from an old PPC-6700 that I owned back in the day.

That's cool man but I would have gave the xperia some more time. I was going to get a touch HD myself but couldn't pass up the price I got for the xperia. And with the new update, touchFlo 3D is butter smooth.

derrickonline said:
After receiving my X1 yesterday, I was TOTALLY disappointed. What a piece of shi*
The thing is SLOW, the screen is TINY, and the panels interface....what a waste of time and energy. I've always used WM phones in the past and owned the original iPhone and then the 3G iPhone. I love my iPhone and hate it at the same time (don't worry this isn't an iPhone fanboy post). I need my cut and paste, and overall basic functionality without having to jailbreak the damn thing to make i do what I want.
So I thought I would cop an Xperia. It didn't last 24 hrs before I decided to RMA that puppy right back to SonyStyle.
What I hated about it:
- Screen was TINY. I was really shocked at how small it was. The screen and the unit itself. The web pictures and reviews don't really paint a picture of how small this thing is. Small and light is good, but the screen is crappy after coming from an iPhone.
- Touchscreen? I think not. The touch screen is no more touch than a PPC-6700.
- SLOOOOOOOW
- After charging it and waking up this morning the screen was defunct. It was like the contrast was turned all the way up or something. The sceen looked totally washed out. Major disappointment.
Overall I was just really let down. This phone is not work $799. Maybe I set my expectations too high, but it wasn't at all what I was expecting.
Not to mention I was already thinking about putting TouchFLo on it, then I said...why am I trying to put TouchFLo on this piece of crap when I can just get me a Touch HD and be done with it.
I want the CLOSEST thing to an iPhone style setup but with ease/convenience/flexibility of Windows Mobile. I PRAY that I won't be disappointed with the Touch HD I just purchased.
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Have you heard of customizing the phone to suit your needs? If you want it to perform out of the box, then you should have stuck with your iphone

you should read what are you buying. Xperia is a professional device, made for use with a stylus or to be customized with alternative interface.
I you want a soap box ready to use go to buy an iphone
different target, different potential, different users

All the customizing in the world couldn't make up for the work needed to get that Xperia up to par.

Get over it man!
Regards,
Astoroth
X1 --- You gotta love it

the iphone is a joke compared with any decent windows mobile device... a gadget that you have to "jailbreak" just to do something without going the manufacturer's way is a ****ing ****.
anyways, my X1 is fast, actually is one of the fastest (in overall experiencie) wmo devices out there. also, the screen is not tiny, sure the iphone or the touch hd are a bit bigger, but hey, the x1 itself is smaller! do you understand that you can't get both things (smaller device + bigger screen = fail).

i don't understand why you decided to get an x1 if you were happy with the form factor of the iphone. i would have thought that the touch hd iis the closest match.
personally, i'm delighted with the x1. it's the first pocket pc i've ever had that actually feels like a phone rather than a pda in my pocket.
i'm more than happy to have a smaller screen if it means that the device is more pocketable, and i get a hardware keyboard too.
admittedly the panels aren't much to shout about but i've got absolutely no complaints about speed on my device. on the contrary, it's the fastest pocketpc i've ever owned.
hopefully the touch hd will be more suited to your needs ...

Im sooo sorry for you!
Cmon man, this is a developers site. If you dont like it, customize it!
I dont really know WHY youre telling us how you hate it? Like we care.
I love my Xperia!

3.5" @ 320 x 480
3" @ 800 x 480
Righhhhtt.....
If 0.5" matters to you that much, go back to iPhone

derrickonline said:
After receiving my X1 yesterday, I was TOTALLY disappointed. What a piece of shi*
The thing is SLOW, the screen is TINY, and the panels interface....what a waste of time and energy. I've always used WM phones in the past and owned the original iPhone and then the 3G iPhone. I love my iPhone and hate it at the same time (don't worry this isn't an iPhone fanboy post). I need my cut and paste, and overall basic functionality without having to jailbreak the damn thing to make i do what I want.
So I thought I would cop an Xperia. It didn't last 24 hrs before I decided to RMA that puppy right back to SonyStyle.
What I hated about it:
- Screen was TINY. I was really shocked at how small it was. The screen and the unit itself. The web pictures and reviews don't really paint a picture of how small this thing is. Small and light is good, but the screen is crappy after coming from an iPhone.
- Touchscreen? I think not. The touch screen is no more touch than a PPC-6700.
- SLOOOOOOOW
- After charging it and waking up this morning the screen was defunct. It was like the contrast was turned all the way up or something. The sceen looked totally washed out. Major disappointment.
Overall I was just really let down. This phone is not work $799. Maybe I set my expectations too high, but it wasn't at all what I was expecting.
Not to mention I was already thinking about putting TouchFLo on it, then I said...why am I trying to put TouchFLo on this piece of crap when I can just get me a Touch HD and be done with it.
I want the CLOSEST thing to an iPhone style setup but with ease/convenience/flexibility of Windows Mobile. I PRAY that I won't be disappointed with the Touch HD I just purchased.
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Are u using Xperia from Sony Ericsson???
Mine is different. Clear screen, fast and wonderful. If I may say, this baby just know what I need.

my SE X1 rocks ....
i always get compliments about it! (more than an iphone would anyday) ok the panels are kinda a waste of space ...but still they are still cool.
and yes when i first got it i didnt like the speed and it did lag ...but its now a custom pocket rocket, no operator crap etc.

i would like to say a friend of mine has a iphone, played with it for a few hours and was very disapointed. apart from the flashy UI its really a rubbish phone (bought through a apple hype machine that tells u its cool to have one). the x1 was hard to get into but some remarks made are rubbish. small screen???? slow? i think not.
ps. bluetooth / mms on iphone anyone, screen rez is poor too and i heard it cant multitask. thats why it runs very fast.
thats my rant over.
u should also check out the phone before u buy it, i checked out iphone/htc hd and blackberry storm. its only when u have it in your hand and have a play u can really decide which is best for u. i needed the hardware keyboard

There's always individual need which is important.
Many many users rather want a device to "feel right" than "do a lot". And that's fine.
However IMO the author makes two mistakes: X1 screen is many times better than iPhone, and "iPhone" usability is laugh compared to X1...

Provocation... ehh...

HTC Hero VS HTC Magic

Hi, I guess this thread is aimed at those who may have a Magic and those who want a hero. Ive been looking at both these devices. I was wondering what makes the hero so much better than the magic? As far as i can tell its mainly the camera and the phone is smaller. Are there many other differences?

ExO_PoLiTiX said:
Hi, I guess this thread is aimed at those who may have a Magic and those who want a hero. Ive been looking at both these devices. I was wondering what makes the hero so much better than the magic? As far as i can tell its mainly the camera and the phone is smaller. Are there many other differences?
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Depending on where you buy the Magic, it may have less RAM than the hero as there are two different RAM configurations available on the Magic (I'm unsure why.)
For me personally, what makes the Hero "better" is that the Magic feels a bit more like a toy than it should - I guess it's just that plasticky look and feel, but its shape and finish is just nowhere near as sleek and slick as the Hero. I like that the Hero's edges are more sqaured off than the Magic's rounded edges - I think that, for me atleast, plays a big part in the cheap-like feeling I get from the Magic.
The only concern I had about the Hero when I first saw it was the chin, however you'll find that the chin is not even noticeable in your pocket and in fact it just helps to protect the trackball from constant wear & tear by rubbing in your pocket throughout the day.
I know a lot of that is my personal opinion, but I hope it can help you out.

iammorris said:
Depending on where you buy the Magic, it may have less RAM than the hero as there are two different RAM configurations available on the Magic (I'm unsure why.)
For me personally, what makes the Hero "better" is that the Magic feels a bit more like a toy than it should - I guess it's just that plasticky look and feel, but its shape and finish is just nowhere near as sleek and slick as the Hero. I like that the Hero's edges are more sqaured off than the Magic's rounded edges - I think that, for me atleast, plays a big part in the cheap-like feeling I get from the Magic.
The only concern I had about the Hero when I first saw it was the chin, however you'll find that the chin is not even noticeable in your pocket and in fact it just helps to protect the trackball from constant wear & tear by rubbing in your pocket throughout the day.
I know a lot of that is my personal opinion, but I hope it can help you out.
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Hey, thanks alot for the reply. I agree, from what i've seen of the magic it does look a bit cheap compared to the hero. Im just saving for the hero and noticed that the magic is almost half the price of the hero. Do you think its justifiable that the hero should be worth spending double on? This would be my first android device and that would play a bit part in it as I am planning to write applications for this OS.

Because there are two different RAM specs on the Magic, it makes it less desirable to buy because you're having to make sure you get the higher RAM, but most are the lower so folk arent buying in case. Does that make sense?
As to the plasticky look - I agree to a degree, but - I rather stupidly dropped my Google ION (Magic from the dev's conference) from quite a height and it slid right across the road.... Result - a few small chips in that shiny plastic coating (underneath is definately a metal shell, likely aluminium) Not a scratch or mark on the screen or back of the handset and working perfectly. Its obviously an extremely robust build quality, and I can say the front casing is definately metal coated with shiny plastic. If I'd dropped my G1 it would have been majorly knackered, as the slider would have opened and that hinge is ridiculously precarious.
I'm also thinking bout getting a hero, as I've been well impressed with the adaptability of android phones and the glitches I've seen have been solved within weeks on here by some clever techy. Software library is WELL underway and I have copilot on my magic Ion running without a single glitch, though I have heard its buggy if you try to get the app without buying as CoPilot are adding in security measures.....
Regarding probs some people seem to be complaining about with albums and media from SD. In my experience as an owner of G1 then Magic, on FIRST USING any gallery/album type app, allow it to load all... it takes a while, because its creating a thumbs database on the device. Once done, access is really quick after that.
Daisy xxx

The Magic does have an overly plastic feel to it. A colleague got one today and I am not too convinced by it.
A big plus for the Hero is the 3.5mm headphone jack. FINALLY HTC caught onto the idea that their consumers want this!
The Hero also has the light sensors to automatically adjust screen brightness (if this works - my Omnia never seems to do it right.)
Multitouch is enabled on the Hero too, so you can pinch to zoom internet browser pages. I dont think the Magic has that!
Ohh yeah and the Flash enabled browser is quit a biggy too (lets just hope the reviews that show it crashing are all early releases and its fixed now!!)
I am only 4 months into a new 18 month contract with Orange but having looked into it a lot over the last few weeks. I want a Hero so much I am likely to pay the £400 SIM free price tag to get one!
Zippyioa

I've got a magic (vodafone UK, lesser ram version ) and love it. My girlfriend has a Hero (orange UK)
I prefer the look of the hero, and in my hand it feels nicer, but that's just preference. I'm more annoyed about the RAM difference grrrrr!

My magic(Ion) has Multitouch Browser I'm running a custom ROM. I'm getting my Her0 sometime soon (When stock arrives LOL) so I'll say more then , but won't knock the magic as its a really robust little device, and of course cheaper than a Hero for somone after something on a budget.
Daisy ....

Dayzee said:
My magic(Ion) has Multitouch Browser I'm running a custom ROM.
Daisy ....
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I stand corrected then
Zippyioa

Do you think the Leo is too big?

I have a Blackstone and I'm thinking about getting a Leo but a friend of mine has one and the one time I saw it I remember thinking it was way too big. Is the bigger screen useful at all? Does the phone feel too big when you're holding it in one hand and trying to click stuff or send a text? Does it feel too big in your pocket or is it fine?
Before I had the Blackstone I had a Diamond so I'm used to smaller/slim phones. Just want to make sure the Leo is something I like before I buy one, so if anyone can help answer these questions I'd appreciate it.

Only 4" and a bit smaller would have been better, but it's not too big.
In fact, it's more convenient to carry around in the pocket than the HD, because it's less bulky.

Had a Touch HD before and think the HD2 feels much better in the pocket. It's actually not that much longer and wider, but quite a lot thinner ...

the bigger screen the better. Size of the phone is good, but must not be much bigger. then i wouldnt call it a "phone" anymore.

no, i dont think so! but i guess this is a really personal decision! Just go to a store and hold i in your hand, and then you can decide yourself!
greetz

rpimps said:
Before I had the Blackstone I had a Diamond so I'm used to smaller/slim phones. Just want to make sure the Leo is something I like before I buy one, so if anyone can help answer these questions I'd appreciate it.
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You are basically following in my footsteps (Diamond, HD and .....eventually HD2) or should I say maybe I would like to follow in yours. Well depending on your choice.
I just got my HD and I'm happy but if I had a choice right now. No doubt it would be the HD2 as the width is hardly noticiable between the HD and the HD2. Well it least when I measured up the HD with a dummy HD2.

The HUGE screen is one of the reason I love this phone so much.
My first impression when I unboxed my phone was, " Damn! The screen is so damn big!"
But, it is not bulky, thinner than many other phone in fact. I feel much more comfortable having HD2 in my pocket than my previous N95.
I'm an asian with no large hands but i can handle the phone with one hand easily.

Nope, I think it's probably at the limit of how big you would want a phone to be though. Any larger that the HD2 and I think it might end up being too cumbersome.

Size does matter but it's not a problem with the HD2
I owned the HD and I never had a problem with the size. Before buying the HD2 I though size would be a problem nevertheless I put a deposit down to ensure I got mine from the initial shipment. I’m not disappointed. I think the size is perfect. The thinness more than overcompensates for the slightly increased width and height.

Coming from using a Diamond before, this is freckin' massive and considerably heavier than my diamond. However it's not bad at all, feels so well constucted and a pleasure to use.
I don't think of my HD2 as a phone anymore, it's like some awesome mini tablet PC that just happens to have phone capabilities .

As said above, thanks to it being so thin it's perfect. The big screen is so amazing and I don't think its worse than having my SE P1i in my pocket which was alot thicker but also alot smaller in height and width. So in my opinion the big size is great, and thanks to it being so thin it's perfect even in the pocket.

rpimps said:
Is the bigger screen useful at all? Does the phone feel too big when you're holding it in one hand and trying to click stuff or send a text? Does it feel too big in your pocket or is it fine?
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yes. no. fine.

I cant think any phone larger than Leo without losing the term phone and entering the netbook territory. On the other hand I am so spoiled by the perfect screen that all others seem like miniatures now!

perfect
when i first saw it i though it was going to be just a bit too big but after a few days it just seemed natural.
now i can't believe how inadequate my girlfriend's diamond is.
it also fits my shirt pocket perfectly - my diamond used to fall out a lot.

too big for one handed use
I am comming from the Touch Pro, which was very hard to use completely without stylus. The HD2 screen is very nice for touch control, but too big for one handed use.
I never had a Touch Pro 2 in my hand unfortunately, so I can not judge if it is still big enough for touch control and small enough for one handed use.

josep54 said:
when i first saw it i though it was going to be just a bit too big but after a few days it just seemed natural.
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Indeed.
It fits into a jeans pocket with ease, even when in a pouch and the big screen is a plus. When I look at my bro's Touch Pro I immediately take my eyes off it, so small are the words

Would agree with the above. I came from the HD and actually the HD2 fits better.... Its thinner so feels less bulky, the screen goes right to the edge of the device which is only slightly wider and taller.
I was really worried about the size, i remember thinking the HD was pretty large so thought the HD2 must be gigantic.
Coming from the HD i have to say the size is def not an issue. (Oh, you'll love the screen!)

Wait a sec, does it work with AT&T 3G in the US (I think 850 band)?

I dont think its too big, i have came from a touch hd and with a rubber case on its basicly the same size, i absolutely love the hd2 I have customized it to fit my every need and i havent had 1 problem with it so far....
(my previous phones, xda orbit, xda orbit 2, iphone, touch hd and now the hd2)

screen size very nice, does not feel too big when holding in hand thanks to the thin design, and be careful with tight pockets.

Turning in my mt3g for an HD2

A couple weeks ago I got a new myTouch 3g with 3.5mm jack from T-Mobile. I had a lot of issues with it, including it spontaneously unmounting from my computer when trying to copy files to it, the speaker suddenly ceasing to work, vibrate seemingly turning itself off at it's leisure. Pretty annoying, so, I exchanged it. I'm having the same issues. I'm irritated. It doesn't have the gorgeous hardware spec to make it worth the trouble I'm having. I've tried different cords, different micro SD cards (including class 6) and haven't stopped having these issues. So, I'm going to exchange the phone and get an HD2.
I've read up on all the forums about it, and I understand that WM is not the most intuitive/trouble free mobile OS out of the box, but I'm confident that I can tweak it enough to my liking and be happy with it. The HD2's magic hardware makes me think it'll be worth it.
I've tried all the phone platforms except WM up to this point, including Android, iPhone (all gens), blackberry OS, and WebOS.
My favorite is WebOS, but there's no hardware out there yet to make it worth it to use it. I've tried the Pre, and there are too many hardware issues, including the dreaded Oreo Twist, plus the battery life was absolutely horrible. It's smaller sister, the Pixi, is too underpowered and the screen is too small. However, the OS itself is a thing of magic. It works great, has tons of polish, is very intuitive (I never knew I needed a gesture area until I had one), and is very open to hacks and tweaks. When someone can put WebOS on the HD2 my mobile life will be complete, that is until the next best thing comes out. Maybe a 5 inch screen?
Anyway, getting back on track. I'm excited that I'll soon be joining all of the wondrous HD2 discussions once I have my almost tablet phone in my hands.
-Ashley

Good luck with your HD2 and welcome to the forums. My HD2 is my 8th WinMo device.... WinMo is the most versatile and customizable mobile os out there, but it does take some learning and tweaking to get it the way you want. After my Athena with a 5inch screen, I got spoiled and used to having a big screen. I had a raphael after that, but that screen was to small after having a 5" screen, so I'm happy to be back on a device with a big screen again. You definitely have trouble going back to a small screen after using devices with nice big screens.
Have fun.

Welcome to our little corner of xda Ashley....congratulations on your excellent taste in cutting-edge mobile electronics, and your uncommon wisdom in actually doing your research before spending your money. Wise choices for both of those
The only heads-up I could offer other than what you'll find (and have found) through careful reading here, is to be prepared for the step from a resistive screen to a capacitive one...that difference will have as much impact in your experience as the size of the screen does. It's not a bad thing, but I might suggest you start now getting used to having your thumb hover about 2mm higher above the screen than you're in the habit of now
Let us know if you run into anything daunting or confusing or just need suggestions.

Thanks everyone! Although I'm pretty sure the myTouch3G actually does use a capacitive touch screen, it's not nearly as responsive as I noticed the demo unit HD2's were.

ashykat said:
Thanks everyone! Although I'm pretty sure the myTouch3G actually does use a capacitive touch screen, it's not nearly as responsive as I noticed the demo unit HD2's were.
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Correct...The MT3G does have a capacitive touch screen.
The screen on the HD2 is far too responsive IMO and most will agree...there is a program called BSB tweaks that you will want to put on your HD2 that allows your to do a lot of stuff that is not available in the default settings(decreasing the screen sensitivity is one of them).
I as well had a MT3G just before moving to the HD2, and while I still hold a special place in my heart for all of the old devices in my closet (Even my iPhones)...I couldnt see replacing my HD2 with anything that is currently on the market.

Wow, I honestly thought it was still resistive....it's easily the least capacitive-feeling screen I've ever played with lol