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T-Mobile Wing Flashing

Hello everyone. I'm new to the website and I'm very interested in flashing my T-Mobile Wing. I just have a quick question for you guys. Is there anyway to go back to factory default, pretty much put in back to its original out of the box state if i flash the phone? Also, will i still be able to use the My Faves or does that have nothing to do with this? Thanks for all the help and i look forward to learning more about this.
Gigabit

Yes. You can download a T-Mobile Wing OEM RUU (search the forums for it) to get back to normal.
My Faves doesn't need the MyFaves app. I used MyFaves for about a year on my non-MyFaves Moto PEBL before getting the Wing. I just use Touch-IT 4.4 with the HTCHome plugin and just assign my myfaves numbers to the first 5 slots so 'simulate' the ease. I've always thought the MyFaves app was rather buggy, but there's a CAB floating around that you can install if you still want it. I just change my contacts via mytmobile online.
It's not too hard as long as you follow all the directions. Read them twice through if you have to.

thanks for the quick response. I just have one other question at this point. i've been look all over the place and cant seem to find what the newest version of Touch-It is. Can you please post a link to the newest version when every you have some time. I can't wait to get started.
Thanks!
Gig

These are the newest versions of Touch-IT.
NEW - Touch-IT v6.1.3 - Clean (updated with UC)
Touch-IT wm6.1 19199.1.0.0 - Full
Touch-IT wm6.1 19199.1.0.0 - ITsBlack
Touch-IT v4.4 and 4.41 WWE P4350
There was a small problem with the wm6.1 versions where the MMS wasn't working correctly, and I'm not sure if that has been fixed... but ITJE's roms are awesome and you can't go wrong with them.
You'll need to install my keyboard fix
KEYBOARD FIX for WING / HERALD & ROM hardware keyboard (keybddr.dll) mismatch

First off, Thank you so much for the fast responsces. Second, after a nice LONG day at the hospital with my daughter i sat down to start the flashing process. As i started reading some of the directions i saw something mentioned about Hard-SPL. My question to you guys is this: once i download the Touch version that i want, is that all i need? or do i need to look more into this and find Hard-SPL. please let me know whenever you have some time.
Thank You,
Gig

All you need to do is follow this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358225
HARDSPL is basically just flashing a rom.. so once youre done with it, all you have to do is install the Rom you want.

ok so, when i run Hard-SPL it starts to do its thing but stops at 4% and comes up with Update Error "Error 270". I've tried re-downloading the Hard-SPL file and uninstalled/reinstalled ActiveSync. I also installed all the .cab files in this order: canonyang, disablesecurity, asergpolicy, followed by a softrest. any ideas what the problem might be. Please let me know when you have some time. Thanks for all the help guys.
Gig

Try restoring back to the default ROM that comes from the factory by downloading it from the first post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321717
After that then try flashing with hard-spl and then to the new TouchIt.
By the way I recommend
Touch-IT wm6.1 19199.1.0.0 - Full
I have a T-mobile wing and that one works best for me. (of course you will have to run the keyboard fix cab and x-box cab as indicated in the previous posts after installing Touch-IT wm6)

i have yet to flash any ROM to the wing. it is still factory default. Should i still try to reinstall the new ROM using the link you provided? Thanks for all your help.
edit: after backing up all my crap i reinstalled the ROM using the RUU from the above post and everything went OK but I'm still getting the same Error when i try to run the Hard-SPL while in the bootloader screen i get "Error 270" at about the 2% mark. if i try to run the Hard-SPL while not in the bootloader screen i get "Error 202". please let me know if you have any other advice to get past this small issue.
Thanks,
Gig

gigabit3 said:
i have yet to flash any ROM to the wing. it is still factory default. Should i still try to reinstall the new ROM using the link you provided? Thanks for all your help.
edit: after backing up all my crap i reinstalled the ROM using the RUU from the above post and everything went OK but I'm still getting the same Error when i try to run the Hard-SPL while in the bootloader screen i get "Error 270" at about the 2% mark. if i try to run the Hard-SPL while not in the bootloader screen i get "Error 202". please let me know if you have any other advice to get past this small issue.
Thanks,
Gig
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Are you sure you ran the 3 cab files first (inside of the Wing with your stylus) and then did the softreset on your Wing (by pressing the little button on the side of your wing with the tip of your stylus) prior to running the ROM exe file (on your large desktop PC)?
The 3 cabs should be run in the order that is given.

yes, after i installed the 3 .cab files i did a soft reset. I held the camera button and pushed in the reset button with the stylus. then once i was in the screen with the different colors i ran Hard-SPL from my desktop computer.
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after reading what i was typing i tried it again and it worked. just call me stupid. SOFT REST! those two words will hunt me forever. Thanks for all your help. not its time to start blowing crap up. lol
Thanks a bunch
Gig

If I remember the instructions, you're supposed to run the hardspl when the phone is running WM.... so basically, install the 3 cabs, reset, wait for it to reach your today screen... connect to activesync, then run hardspl.

that is correct sir. Thats how i was reading it but then doing it a different way. i dunno what i was thinking. Thank you so much for all your help. i have successfully installed Hard-SPL and Touch 4.4 full. I also over clocked from 201 to 247 with no issues. Applied your keyboard fix and the mms fix along with the Internet fix. all is working perfect. thanks again for all the help. i'll definitely will be browsing the sit more to see what else i can learn.
Thanks,
Gig

My HD2 is very unstable with different ROMS. Help please

Hello all,
I'm kinda frustrated with my HD2 device at the moment. It worked perfectly fine until a few days ago.
It has begun to freeze _very_ often. With some ROMS it can't even boot up. It freezes when I have to enter my PIN. On other ROMS it is guranteed to freeze when using ActiveSync/Exchange.
Using HSQL, I've tried L3v5y, XannyTechRom, and MIRI. All with the same result.
Have you got any ideas whats wrong with my device?
Any help will be much appreciated.

I have no idea about whats wrong but this has been a common issue/problem for many members...I don't think I saw this many issues with the HD...I dunno whats wrong with HD2 or the ROMs that it starts freezing for some...maybe the HSPL is buggy? I dunno to be honest.
maybe you should install a stock rom in between or go to MTTY and see if that fixes the issues for you.
Overall tho, its frightening to see how many people have freezing issues with Sense after flashing a couple of custom ROMs...I'm afraid it might eventually happen to everyone and thats why we need to find out what is causing this.
BTW try to format your SD card and then flash a stock ROM without the SD card and see if there is any improvement...my guess is that it will work fine again (for a while at least).

What I have figured out is that with different roms the behaviour is different, depending IN WHICH ORDER you have the links in the autostart folder.
Right after flashing it should be ok and if you install than other programms the startup interfears with the startup of htc-sense
Finaly I have the best result (on my device with the programms I have installed) keeping the htc-Sense startup as the LAST item.
You can change the order with sk-tools (Autotstart items).
You can check this (If you have a chance to access):
- Make a reset and do not enter the pin code of your sim card (on my device this was making a difference, if you do not have a pin code maybe you should take out your sim card that the phone cannot connect)
- Go to the settings and unselect in "Today" "HTC Sense"
Than you should have the normal "speed" of the device and you should be able to start sk tools and change the booting order.
It looks like that - depending on the start up order that applications - processes are waiting for each other and using nearly 100% of cpu power and you have therefore the impression that the device is frozen.
I am sorry I do not know how to change the startup order without sk-Tools
Best regards,
dingolino
tommyjakobsen said:
Hello all,
I'm kinda frustrated with my HD2 device at the moment. It worked perfectly fine until a few days ago.
It has begun to freeze _very_ often. With some ROMS it can't even boot up. It freezes when I have to enter my PIN. On other ROMS it is guranteed to freeze when using ActiveSync/Exchange.
Using HSQL, I've tried L3v5y, XannyTechRom, and MIRI. All with the same result.
Have you got any ideas whats wrong with my device?
Any help will be much appreciated.
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tommyjakobsen said:
Hello all,
I'm kinda frustrated with my HD2 device at the moment. It worked perfectly fine until a few days ago.
It has begun to freeze _very_ often. With some ROMS it can't even boot up. It freezes when I have to enter my PIN. On other ROMS it is guranteed to freeze when using ActiveSync/Exchange.
Using HSQL, I've tried L3v5y, XannyTechRom, and MIRI. All with the same result.
Have you got any ideas whats wrong with my device?
Any help will be much appreciated.
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try the strenas rom (arthemis V2). It has solved my pb

[email protected] said:
I have no idea about whats wrong but this has been a common issue/problem for many members...I don't think I saw this many issues with the HD...I dunno whats wrong with HD2 or the ROMs that it starts freezing for some...maybe the HSPL is buggy? I dunno to be honest.
maybe you should install a stock rom in between or go to MTTY and see if that fixes the issues for you.
Overall tho, its frightening to see how many people have freezing issues with Sense after flashing a couple of custom ROMs...I'm afraid it might eventually happen to everyone and thats why we need to find out what is causing this.
BTW try to format your SD card and then flash a stock ROM without the SD card and see if there is any improvement...my guess is that it will work fine again (for a while at least).
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Thanks for your reply.
I will try what you suggest later today and then write back the results here. It would be very nice if we could solve this issue.
I don't really get that MTTY thing. What exactly does it do?

willbread said:
try the strenas rom (arthemis V2). It has solved my pb
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Can you only use that ROM? Have you tried flashing another one after strenas?
I would really like to use l3v5y's ROM.

dingolino said:
What I have figured out is that with different roms the behaviour is different, depending IN WHICH ORDER you have the links in the autostart folder.
Right after flashing it should be ok and if you install than other programms the startup interfears with the startup of htc-sense
Finaly I have the best result (on my device with the programms I have installed) keeping the htc-Sense startup as the LAST item.
You can change the order with sk-tools (Autotstart items).
You can check this (If you have a chance to access):
- Make a reset and do not enter the pin code of your sim card (on my device this was making a difference, if you do not have a pin code maybe you should take out your sim card that the phone cannot connect)
- Go to the settings and unselect in "Today" "HTC Sense"
Than you should have the normal "speed" of the device and you should be able to start sk tools and change the booting order.
It looks like that - depending on the start up order that applications - processes are waiting for each other and using nearly 100% of cpu power and you have therefore the impression that the device is frozen.
I am sorry I do not know how to change the startup order without sk-Tools
Best regards,
dingolino
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Very interesting dingolino!
Later today I will give that a shot aswell on l3v5y's ROM. Will report back.

tommyjakobsen said:
Thanks for your reply.
I will try what you suggest later today and then write back the results here. It would be very nice if we could solve this issue.
I don't really get that MTTY thing. What exactly does it do?
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When you flash lots of cooked roms, they get "bloated" and the devices started hard-resetting for no reason. this is because of files from old roms being left when the new rom is flashed.
MTTY allows you to enter the device on bootloader and use service commands to format the file system on the device so you can remove all rom files before flashing a new rom!!
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basicly it will format your system and make sure you don't have any files from older roms left on the system which might cause this issues.

tommyjakobsen said:
Can you only use that ROM? Have you tried flashing another one after strenas?
I would really like to use l3v5y's ROM.
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i tried too l3v5y's ROM and it didn't work. But maybe, your pb is not exactly same as mine.
Do you you a 16 GB card ? for me, it's certainly cause of pb because i can use every rom without sd card
Try to ask more to sternas but i noticed he prefer keep his cook secrets

Try to install "official" 1.61, make HR after boot. After next reboot connect with PC and flash with any cooked ROM. I had the same problems like you and this helped me...

Petulinek said:
Try to install "official" 1.61, make HR after boot. After next reboot connect with PC and flash with any cooked ROM. I had the same problems like you and this helped me...
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and for me, this didn't help me

willbread said:
i tried too l3v5y's ROM and it didn't work. But maybe, your pb is not exactly same as mine.
Do you you a 16 GB card ? for me, it's certainly cause of pb because i can use every rom without sd card
Try to ask more to sternas but i noticed he prefer keep his cook secrets
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Try deleting the folder "\Application Folder" on the storage card using your PC/Laptop, and reinsert the SD card into HD2. I assume you are using ROM cooked with Manila version that has the document tab.
Let us know if this works for you. It took me a long time and many flashes to figure this out. I suppose you have configured your HD2 for emails or MS Exchange pushmail?
Edit : If you already experience the slowdown caused by inserting the SD Card, MAKE SURE you reboot your HD2 before re-inserting the SD card.

I had this "freezing during startup" with a number of roms (always after I installed my software) and since that I am always "tweaking" it by the startup order as I described it and was able to solve it!
I do not think that it is hardware related in the amount of cases which are reported. And I am also not a strong believer of this "flashing" and mtty discussion (it could be a solution is some cases but I do not think in this relatively larger number of cases which are reported).
For most of the rom cookers it is not the 1st rom cooking they are doing and the HD2 is not the 1st HD2 device for HTC as well. This is the reason why I do not think that there is a principle rom problem nor a principle hardware problem
Manila Sense is a complex pcs of software and the startup is therefore more complex.
Depending on the tweaks the rom cookers are doing on the XIP and other WM internals there could be a timing interfearance during booting and this is creating the trouble for Manila Sense startup (network, phone, etc.).
Reminds me to the "good old days" with ATART-ST where you had dedicated tools to rearrange the startup seaquenze of the Accessories
At least i think it is worth trying it, you cannot loose anything.
But I played not only with the finaly boot order of htc-Sense (the last one) but also I put other elements in a different order.
Sometimes it was helping to install Panolauncher and put it before HTC Sense startup - I had the impression that just having another application before HTCsense made an improvement to "give HTCSense" more time.
Does not sound like science but a little bit like Voodoo ...
My Autostart folder (only the applications)
1. poutlook.lnk
2. BTTrayCE.lnk
3. De|WMPTempFolder.lnk
4. PKG.lnk
5. Lotus Traveler.lnk (installed by me)
6. LotusPRUploader.lnk (installed by me)
7. Panolauncher.lnk (installed by me)
8. OM10QS.lnk (installed by me - Opera 10 beta)
9. HTCStartUp.lnk
Good luck
dingolino
tommyjakobsen said:
Very interesting dingolino!
Later today I will give that a shot aswell on l3v5y's ROM. Will report back.
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gohyc said:
Try deleting the folder "\Application Folder" on the storage card using your PC/Laptop, and reinsert the SD card into HD2. I assume you are using ROM cooked with Manila version that has the document tab.
Let us know if this works for you. It took me a long time and many flashes to figure this out.
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i haven't the folder "\Application Folder" on my card. Maybe, this is why this rom works well
I haven't verifyed before so i can't tell you if i had it before

Hi,
could you try to flash ROM that have manila 1921 (manila without document tab),
I facing so many problem when I install ROM with manila 1922 (manila got document tab)
Now has been 4 day, without any problem flash ROM with manila 1921...
give a try...

mtty may help u out

dingolino said:
What I have figured out is that with different roms the behaviour is different, depending IN WHICH ORDER you have the links in the autostart folder.
Right after flashing it should be ok and if you install than other programms the startup interfears with the startup of htc-sense
Finaly I have the best result (on my device with the programms I have installed) keeping the htc-Sense startup as the LAST item.
You can change the order with sk-tools (Autotstart items).
You can check this (If you have a chance to access):
dingolino
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so i just got the last version of sktools.....could anybody please explain how I can change the startup order? sktools has allot of tools and I just cant figure out how its done!
thanx!

Hi,
sounds to me like you have flashed so many times you HD2 has become "Bloated"
this is where for eg, Rom X is 110Mb, and then you Flash Rom Y which is only 100Mb.
When you do the flash there is 10Mb of residual files left from the previous rom., when this happens often you get strange things happening like you describe and worse, your device can start hard resetting for no reason!!
Go to this thread (swap the ** for tt ) h**p://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=616422 (I cant post links yet!!) and it will fix your issue. (The thread has been shut as there has been a big argument over it, something to do with a disagreement over drivers!! - how gay!)
I can honestly say, although i have only joined recently, i have been a user of this method for about 6 years, I personally know the Guy who opened the thread and i would stand buy him 100%.
Although the thread is closed, i will help with queries via PM if you like!
SS

gohyc said:
Try deleting the folder "\Application Folder" on the storage card using your PC/Laptop, and reinsert the SD card into HD2. I assume you are using ROM cooked with Manila version that has the document tab.
Let us know if this works for you. It took me a long time and many flashes to figure this out. I suppose you have configured your HD2 for emails or MS Exchange pushmail?
Edit : If you already experience the slowdown caused by inserting the SD Card, MAKE SURE you reboot your HD2 before re-inserting the SD card.
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I tried deleting the \Application Folder folder and reset the phone.
Of course this equaled a hard reset as all system data stored was in \Application Folder.
So I removed my storage card and did a hard reset so that the system data will not be stored in the storage card.
Hopefully this will be make the device more stable as such.

use the mtty to format ur device first, then flash the rom u want to flash.
I have encountered the same issues just like u, after use the MTTY, so far so good.
the post is kind of complex, but it is worth to have a try.

Issue with start menu

I have a very strange symptom on my device. When I go to the start menu and try to scroll in the window it didn't refresh the screen, the icons are overlapping each other. This happening if I am go to a subcategory in the start menu as well. See attached screen shots. Right now it seems every other apps are working fine.
Issue caused by WMedia Support by Helmi's. I uninstalled but it did not helped at all
Any idea, how can I resolve this issue?
What I have done till now:
I have checked the install cab file - it seems all dlls were removed from the device (2 or 3 remained but the date of the files are the same when I coocked the ROM)
I have checked all files were created/modified on the day when install the codec, but I did not found anything.
I have tried install some start menu converter such like start menu grid, but they did not helped at all to solving this issue
ROM: Dutty WM6.5 LEO R4 WWE
Any help/idea would be appreciate.

I think you will need to Hard Reset your device as you mentioned that some critical system files may be missing. I don't think anything else can be done.

Change the tsk theme to classic blue then soft reset, then change it back.
dwizzy130

Ahh... never thought of that, good call
Hope that fix works.

dwizzy130 said:
Change the tsk theme to classic blue then soft reset, then change it back.
dwizzy130
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Thanks for the hint, but unfortunately it did not help, any other idea apart from hard reset?

If no one else has reported the same bug in the chef's thread then flash a stock rom, then flash the Dutty rom again. Then hard reset twice. Then find an update to that program you installed that caused it in the first place.

I don't think it is related to the rom is much more the app I installed. If there won't be any other idea i will do a hard reset and check (might be update rom as well)

I also try to check registry changes what I found in the cab, but nothing special, at least for me

New Touch HD User - advice needed please

Good evening,
I've just had my Touch HD delivered today, its not brand new, its a used item but is in perfect condition.
Anyway, the previous owner has obviously removed all of his details, pictures etc etc. However there are still a few apps on the device. Tom Tom for example, a screen rotate app and a few others.
Although they are useful, I'd quite like to have a fresh start with it.
The last owner installed a fresh windows 6.5.5 (?) before he sent me it, but I dont really know the difference, I'm a beginner when it comes to windows mobile.
So anyway, is it worth me doing a full reset on the phone? So its a cleans slate? And then updating the operating system (I need to learn about ROM and things etc), and downloading the apps that I'd like?
Things like the home screen, is the clock meant to be white and black? Because mine is like a see through bluey grey colour and I dont think the default theme is installed.
Anyway, any advice will be happily received
Thanks
Chris

anyone got any advice for a new wm user?

Any comments are appreciated

You could hard reset, but then you would no longer have whatever applications he left on there (like TomTom etc). However, it could be that he left TomTom on the SD card, and that you could simply reinstall it. That might also be the case with whatever other apps are on the phone.
The Touch HD original came with Windows Mobile 6.1. The previous owner flashed a newer custom ROM that has WM 6.5 on it. There are different versions (or "builds") of WM 6.5, but in general they look the same and they are better than 6.1.
To "update" the version of windows, would require you to flash (i.e. "install") another ROM on the phone. There are no "windows updates" via internet like on desktop computers.
Hard reseting basically brings the phone back to the fresh ROM installation state (of whatever was the last ROM someone flashed on there). So, you could do that and then you could begin to install whatever apps you want.
After you get the phone the way you like (with apps, contacts etc) you could use a program like Spb Backup to backup the entire phone. That way, if later on it gets a bit sluggish, you can hard reset and do a backup restore so that within a few minutes, you will have all your apps and contacts etc. right back on there. It saves you the time of reinstalling everything. Keep in mind that it is not always recommended (although possible) to restore a backup onto a ROM different from the one used when the backup was created.
If you are curious about what apps to install, I just posted a list of my favorites in another thread. Link here (second post)

Thanks for the reply, much appreciated.
Firstly, things like tomtom were on the memory card as you said, so they still work.
I've actually done a hard reset on the phone and its come back exactly the same.
So I'm guessing its had another ROM update in the past? I've been searching around for the original ROM and have managed to download one. I just dont know how to install it (done a few searches already).
I guess I'd just like to start fresh with it, and modify it in my way
Thanks again for the reply.

I would not recommend going to an original (stock) ROM. Custom ROMs are a lot better. There are some very talented people here who make changes to original ROMs in order to make them faster and to improve many of the features (as well as include new features).
I bought my HD in Nov 2008, and within a couple of weeks, I flashed a different ROM on it. It has been almost a year and a half, and I could not picture myself ever going back to a stock ROM.
You can see the ROM development section here in XDA dev. or you can visit htcpedia.com to look at other options. ROMs from Dutty, Energy, MaryOne, and Miri are among the most popular. They each create different ROMs and each has ROMs with different versions of Windows Mobile and HTC Sense (Manila 2.1 or Sense 2.5). Some have the regular HTC text messaging app, while others have removed it and include the Windows Mobile messaging app (since there have been problems with the HTC app becoming extremely slow when you have lots and lots of messages - i.e. for those "text message power users").
To flash a new ROM (takes about 10 minutes), you have two options:
1. Flash from your PC
2. Flash from the SD card in the phone
I have always done it from PC, but flashing from SD card is a safer method. If you flash from your PC, it is very important that, once the flashing starts, you never ever unplug the phone from the PC until it is totally finished and it restarts (or else you will kill your phone permanently). But, just do the SD card method and you'll be on the safe side.
The first thing I would do is to start your phone in bootloader mode (= hold volume down key the whole time and tap the power button; a red-blue-green-white screen will appear) to see what type of SPL you have (original SPL or HardSPL). You probably have HSPL, which would allow you to flash any ROM. If you have original SPL, you will need to either install HSPL to permanently have the ability to flash other ROMs or install USPL to have the ability to flash a ROM in that particular moment only.
Read more about SPL here (great tutorial).
My guess is that since the previous owner installed newer ROMs, then you probably have HSPL and you probably have a version 1.56 ROM installed. If this is the case, you would not need the upgrade steps discussed in that thread. Those are for people with 1.54 ROMs (the older, not so common ROMs). But it is still good to read as it describes installing new ROMs.
Here is a quote from Dutty about quick ROM flashing instructions:
*Flashing Guide
SAFEST WAY TO FLASH YOUR ROM IS THROUGH STORAGE CARD METHOD:
* Copy BLACIMG.NBH into the root dir of your Storage Card.
* Be sure to have at least 30% of charge.
* Turn off your device by using the Power Button.
* Go to Boot loader mode. Push and hold Vol. Down + press Power button.
* After that your device with have a white screen with text " Press to power button for continue upgrade or Press Volume down button for cancel upgrade , select press to power button and it will start upgrade Rom.
ALTERNATIVE WAY OF FLASHING YOUR ROM WITH RUU.exe
* Extract Rom download Folder.
* Be sure to have at least 50% of charge.
* Turn off your device by using the Power Button
* Go to Boot loader mode. Push and hold Vol. Down + press Power button.
* Connect your device to PC
* Run ROMUpdateUtility.exe and follow the screen instructions.
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thanks for another very useful post
Ok I've checked out the device information etc.
If I show you them here would you be able to possibly point out if I'm running a good setup?
Ok on the bootloader screen it reads this..
Blac100 32M
SPL-1.56.0liNex
MicroP-Blackstone (LED) v6
When I start the phone up the first screen displays this in the bottom right...
1.17.25.09
52.69.25.37U
Also after that it shows a screen saying HTC and then Energy underneath.
Is Energy one of the ROM types?
And lastly in the device information it shows this.....
OS Version - 5.2.21901(21901.5.0.92)
Manilla Version - 2.5.20121255
ROM Version - 23.Apr.2010.WWE
ROM Date - 11/20/09
Radio Version -1.17.25.09
Protocol Version - 52.69.25.37U
Also when I press Start it shows a new page rather than a drop down programs menu....is this a part of an updated ROM?
I hope you dont mind me bombarding you with all this info.
I guess I just need an experts help
Thanks again
Chris

No problem. Glad to help.
SPL 1.56.0liNex shows that you do have HSPL and that it is upgraded to install 1.56 ROMs. That's good. It basically makes it easy to quickly flash whatever ROM you want to try out, without having to do any extra steps. So, the instructions on how to flash from memory card (above) should work for you.
Yes, you have an Energy ROM installed. You can continue to use it or you can flash another ROM if you want to try something else.
Your OS version shows you are running WM 6.5 build 21901 There are different builds out there. Some are more buggy than others, but I don't know how much they all differ from each other. The newer ones have the start button and OK button at the bottom of the screen instead of at the top, and the menus look a bit different. These versions are often referred to as WM 6.5.x instead of 6.5
Manila shows you have the latest HTC Sense version 2.5 (build 20121255)
ROM version shows WWE (world wide english) language and the date from about a week ago. I don't know if that is how new the ROM is or if that is the date the ROM was flashed. On my phone, it says "Dutty HD HG R2 WWE" (that's my ROM) but no date, so I don't know what your date means.
ROM date - 11/20/09 This is probably when the ROM was released.
Radio version: I have an older version 1.13.25.24. I believe this can be changed separately from the ROM, but if you are not experiencing any issues with bad connections etc, then don't worry about it. I have never done anything with my radio version, and I have no idea if the ROMs I have installed have ever changed that. I've never had a problem. Sorry, don't know much about the different radio versions.
Start menu opens up a new page..... This is part of WM 6.5 If you don't like it, there is an app out there that can bring back the old drop-down menu, but most people prefer the new version.
I hope that helps.

Yet again, thanks for the help.
I'm starting to understand how this little device works now.
I've decided I want to start from a fresh with the phone and attempt to restore it back to "factory" settings (if possible).
So I assume I'll be need to get hold of an original rom file?
And flash it with that?
I know newer roms are better etc, but I want to set the phone up to my specifications if you know what I mean.
This shouldnt cause any problems should it?
Also do you know where I might be able to download an original rom from?
Cheers
Chris

Sure, if you want to flash a stock ROM, you can try it and see how you like it.
You can find a lot of info about flashing on the XDA Wiki page for the Touch HD. Save it in your favorites because it could come in handy later.
In that page, you will find this link to available stock ROMs in the various languages.

Phone problems!!!

Hi everybody,
I have got the LEO last week. I had several problems I could solve, but one big I could not solve yet.
It belongs to the Phone. After making a call, I am not able to make a second one. The application freezes, when I close it, I am not able to open the Phone again. Making a call from the history list is also sometimes something i can not do.
Can please somebody help me? Without the posibility to make easy and quickly calls the LEO is for me useless.
Thank You very much in advance!!!

i have the leo 4 7-8 months.never had problems.tried soft reset?if that wont help i believe that you must go 4 hard reset
maybe some program you put makes that.

If your LEO is giving so much problems within a week, you probably have a mondaymorning model.
Try to exchange it at the shop as it is not funtioning properly. (In EU this is consumer right)
If not possible,
What is it you have done to your phone allready?
You mention having problems and solved them, can you remember what you have done?
Has your phone ever funtioned without problems?
Try to do a complete factory reset or hard reset (look here)
Then format SD (first save data somewhere)
After reset/format does your phone function correctly?
Furthermore:
If you install apps/enhancements/skins, install all apps you need for your phone running on your device.
If you remove SD, your device should be able to startup without any problems, only applications you use besides the normal startup should reside on sd Card.
So for example:
Cookies home tab (becomes part of home screen)=> on device
Igo8 Navigator (Started manually after boot) => on sd card
Task manager (runs allways on background) => device
Games like experiment 13 => on sd card
[....]

if its brand new, get a new one, otherwise
backup
hard reset
if fixed, ok!
if not fixed,
try find an updated stock rom (if you want to stay stock) or get HSPL and flash a cooked rom.
If problem fixed, ok!
if not fixed, hardware problem.

Thank You for the replies. In the morning I tought the problem is fixed, but is not. Can be Cookies home tab a problem?

Stano 74 said:
Thank You for the replies. In the morning I tought the problem is fixed, but is not. Can be Cookies home tab a problem?
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well it could be cookies but thousands of people use cookies so its unlikely.do you have loads of stuff installed?
also, are you restoring registry settings when you flash? because you shouldn't do that when you go to a new ROM. registry settings backup is only really for restoring to the same rom after hard reseting.

I tried to found an official ROM update for my device. I found one, but the only change is the launching date. On my device is one from 11.1.2010 and I have found one from 4.6.2010. Does it make sense to update?