R3A Camera Results/ Samples? - XPERIA X1 General

Could anybody inform me of the changes with camera performance with the new update? (other than auto flash and geotagging)
How fast is it to load and focus? what are the images like?
All reviews i have read are based on the old software, so wondering if those reviews would have been much better if using newer firmware?
Any samples?
Many Thanks.

Here you go.. photos taken in Hamburg yesterday with my X1, smabergs 6.0 ROM with the new Camera and HTC Camera..
Same place, different app:
R3A: http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5708/dsc0025a.jpg
HTC: http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/240/imag0004f.jpg
I don't know if it's a problem with smabergs ROM, but focusing takes ~1-2s and then after ~8-10s the picture is taken.. terribly slow for me.

A collection from last weekend using the different focus methods.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/artesea/tags/blicklinghall/
Doesn't seem to be too slow

phenx said:
Here you go.. photos taken in Hamburg yesterday with my X1, smabergs 6.0 ROM with the new Camera and HTC Camera..
Same place, different app:
R3A: http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5708/dsc0025a.jpg
HTC: http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/240/imag0004f.jpg
I don't know if it's a problem with smabergs ROM, but focusing takes ~1-2s and then after ~8-10s the picture is taken.. terribly slow for me.
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i like the one with HTC better the X1 got some horizontal lines
but i dont know :S i thin i will stay at the xperia Camera
artesea said:
A collection from last weekend using the different focus methods.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/artesea/tags/blicklinghall/
Doesn't seem to be too slow
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these pictures are never taken by the Xperia Camera xD

By the way, I was searching in R3A cam the self-timer / autotimer / automatic release, didn´t find it. Can anybody help, or is this basic function missing?

thanks for the samples, dont look too bad.
But 10 secs to take a photo is really slow! anybody else experiencing this?

after a softreset, speed of the camera is back to normal.. 1-2s

Really 8 - 10 secs to take a shot ???
1- could be the SAT link time
2- could be the flash charge time
I am pleased with the results, it is not a PRO camera: it's a phone with camera and I don't expect PRO pics
IMHO it makes decent (not "brilliant" or "great") shots
I took this one with zero adjustments, just grabed phone from pocket and shot:
If I need better shots, I take my cybershot with me

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Camera Configuration

hello guys i want the best Camera Configuration ( macro or single or infinity ......)
because really my camera suckss my xperia was .14 and i debrand it to .16 but my camera is very bad !!!!!
Or the problem is with the photographer
I saw on Esato some amazing pictures taken with X10.
cant complain here ... best pic ever with that phone .. and fastet ever seen readjusting from light to dark places ... the only thing i dont like is the autofocus .. it cant focus to close to an object ( that is 3 - 5 cm away from the camera lense like my x10) but since i rarly do that i dont care
ok noblack can u tell me ur config.
I've found using the camera on Touch Capture, 8mp, Normal scene, Centre metering, Auto white-balance gives me the best pictures.
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my pictures are just awful! i'm really hoping this is a softwer issue, i have a prototype so i'm running an old 007 apposed to 016 which is the newest afaik
sample 1 sample 2 sample 3
btw. can this be cleared with photoshop? it's just silly to have an 8mpx camera and have this bad pictures!
i'm using 6mpx wide screen rezolution, everything else on auto/single focus
Astral07 said:
my pictures are just awful! i'm really hoping this is a softwer issue, i have a prototype so i'm running an old 007 apposed to 016 which is the newest afaik
sample 1 sample 2 sample 3
btw. can this be cleared with photoshop? it's just silly to have an 8mpx camera and have this bad pictures!
i'm using 6mpx wide screen rezolution, everything else on auto/single focus
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pretty sure it's the firmware of ur phone that's giving out crap picture. i didn't even bother changing the setting on the camera and the pic comes out just fine. it does pretty amazing in dark places too for a phone
what si ur firmware ?
firmware version 1.6
baseband version R1DA007
i have
firmware version 1.6
baseband version R1FA016
what is the different !!!!
yours is newer
I think the problem is your phone.
Try using EV -1 here has improved 50%
-1 EV is too much...
I think -7 is better and also, for better results is a photoshop app on the market.
A bit +contrast and saturation and everything is ok.
My images are a bit ... washed so, -7 EV + contrast makes them a bit better.
I'm not happy either with the quality compared with what picture i saw on esato.
Astral07 said:
my pictures are just awful! i'm really hoping this is a softwer issue, i have a prototype so i'm running an old 007 apposed to 016 which is the newest afaik
sample 1 sample 2 sample 3
btw. can this be cleared with photoshop? it's just silly to have an 8mpx camera and have this bad pictures!
i'm using 6mpx wide screen rezolution, everything else on auto/single focus
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You are right, those look awful. There's clearly something wrong there, but you already knew that. You should return the phone if you can't get it any better than this.
this are mine !!!!
http://i42.tinypic.com/34qoj5y.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/9i5xyq.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/166yovs.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/10miutc.jpg
!!!!!!
Cinner said:
You are right, those look awful. There's clearly something wrong there, but you already knew that. You should return the phone if you can't get it any better than this.
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i would but since i got it fairly cheap and 2 months ago when no x10 were out yet...i don't have any return policy for it, nor a bill of any kind so i'm pretty much stuck with it
figofigo said:
this are mine !!!!
http://i42.tinypic.com/34qoj5y.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/9i5xyq.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/166yovs.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/10miutc.jpg
!!!!!!
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Those are pretty bad as well, make sure the sun is at your back and lower the ev to -.7
figofigo said:
this are mine !!!!
http://i42.tinypic.com/34qoj5y.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/9i5xyq.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/166yovs.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/10miutc.jpg
!!!!!!
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Also you might want to turn on the image stabilization
And yes, be careful with the sun.

Auto Camera Flash

Hi guys. This is my first time posting but I've searched through the forums and can't seem to find much. Is it possible to have an auto flash mode for the camera? I know there's limitations with 1.6 but the X10 mini has this functionality and wondered if there's any way to import this? Apologies if this is a stupid question
It would have great to get this I dont know anything, but after rooting, may be it's possible??? Or the LED light on/off button on viewfinder? then we can be able to on/off led with single click without going in settings
hi all,
ive had bad experience with the x10 camera app and i though i might have a faulty camera or something is screwed up but the problems are with the actual app, ive since started using vignette as my camera app, you can make it as default camera app, ifs got flash on/off/auto, different effects, and it doesnt compress the images as much it leave an 8mpx photo between 3.5mb - 8mb and thats actually the approx size it should be without loosing quality.
ill upload in a few min the pictures ive taken with the x10 using that app
best $3 ive spent on the android market.
S.E. should learn from its developers of how to make a camera app
the images are to big to upload here and i dont want to resize them so as not to loose quality of the originals so heres the link to view the images,
http://img375.imageshack.us/g/20100710160347439.jpg/
let me know what you think,
i think the effects are great, great quality pix
ruskival said:
ifs got flash on/off/auto, different effects
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Woww if it has on/off/auto, then it's very useful
Can you please post pictures of same object taken with stock camera & vignette, then we can see difference in quality also
ruskival said:
the images are to big to upload here and i dont want to resize them so as not to loose quality of the originals so heres the link to view the images,
http://img375.imageshack.us/g/20100710160347439.jpg/
let me know what you think,
i think the effects are great, great quality pix
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It is a really wonderful application!
Thanks for pointing it out!
I love the effects, they are good for some quick unique shots,
ready for upload immediately!
Really wonderful app !
is late at night where im from (Australia) but ill take some outdoor pix tomorrow with both original camera app and the vignette one so you guys can all see the difference. so in about 12-14 hours ill upload comparison pictures
This app is pretty awesome. Funny that the developers could make the X10's flash work like, well, a flash. How the heck could SE not figure that one out?? It's now my default camera app. 4/5 and would be 5/5 if they could speed up the camera. This is my only beef with the camera on the X10. Takes too long to take the actually photo. My wife's iphone takes it instantly, and I must say that given the fact that it's only 3.2 mega pixels the quality of the photos is pretty darn good too. Must have something to do with the app itself.
Never the less Vignette is one of the best paid apps ive purchased to date.
I'm surprised the pictures aren't up lol
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I bought this product on the recommendation from this thread.
http://picasaweb.google.com/107358427786063209630/SonyVsVignette02?feat=directlink
One of the above was taken using Vignette with the autoflash function, 8 mp setting and auto exposure. The other was taken with stock camera with flash light on. Which do you prefer!?!
I would say that I took various photos of different things to see what the difference was but I think its pretty clear to see. The images with Vignette were all poor focus. Needless to say I have uninstalled/refunded the app. I'll stick with the stock camera for the time being.
By the way never done on line pics before so dont know if above links will work!
Whoa!!
Where did you guys buy the X10 with a flash? I want that version! Mine only came with a photo light, which isn't designed to be used as a flash!
The Vignette app from the market gives you flash functionality over the photolight which is probably its most redeeming feature cos the photo quality was pants!
I've had some impressive results with Vignette - took some photo's of a document today using it and it was definitely sharper than with the stock cam..?!
Oh no, so what was I doing wrong?! Why were my pics so out of focus? The reason I sent those two in was that I even put the camera on the edge of the shelf to steady it to see if it was me with camera shake.
Don't say I've ditched a decent product cos I got the settings wrong!
suzed said:
I bought this product on the recommendation from this thread.
http://picasaweb.google.com/1073584...?authkey=Gv1sRgCMaqk_6Q2NT9Sw&feat=directlink
One of the above was taken using Vignette with the autoflash function, 8 mp setting and auto exposure. The other was taken with stock camera with flash light on. Which do you prefer!?!
I would say that I took various photos of different things to see what the difference was but I think its pretty clear to see. The images with Vignette were all poor focus. Needless to say I have uninstalled/refunded the app. I'll stick with the stock camera for the time being.
By the way never done on line pics before so dont know if above links will work!
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Well one is in focus while the other is out of focus, that's not an app doing it.
How do you guys use the flash with vignette app? I have it on my phone but there's no option to turn it on!
Don't you have the "flash icon" on the screen - over on the right, 2nd from bottom when in landscape mode... ??..
And Suzed - Did you change any of the "JPEG file settings" - 2nd icon from the top on the right when in landscape mode... I think mine started on 2mp normal, I've changed it to 8.0mp superfine.
personally ive not have any problems with vignette,
set flash to auto,
8mpx, superfine.
one other thing i did was set in the options to touch screen to take photo, that way it does auto focus and only take photo when you hold it steady, so photos are in focus and great, check out photos ive taken
http://img375.imageshack.us/g/20100710160347439.jpg/
only thing is it takes some times for the photos to be processed and uses up a lot of resources, in my case adw launcher reloads when i exit the vignette app, but i dont mind as long as the pictures i take come out great
i have a question for everyone using Vignette.
In daylight is taking the same overexposed as the stock app?
With the stock app i have control over exposure compensation so, after lowering EV with a stop or two everything is fine but Vignette demo doesn't have exposure compensation support.
How is it in the full version?
Can somebody take 2 images one with Vignette and one with stock outside in daylight at max quality (8 Mp, superfine)?
I bought Camera FX sometime ago but is useless as it doesn't have any EV/ISO/etc. controls.

Shots with Wildfire camera

Hello buddies,
I have problem with my Wildfire camera. Pictures are very blurry. When I shot a car from 4-5 meters the car number can be recognized.
I took the phone many times to garantee service but they did not repair or change the phone.
Please attach pictures from Wildfire camera to make a comparison.
L.H.
d3f said:
Hello buddies,
I have problem with my Wildfire camera. Pictures are very blurry. When I shot a car from 4-5 meters the car number can be recognized.
I took the phone many times to garantee service but they did not repair or change the phone.
Please attach pictures from Wildfire camera to make a comparison.
L.H.
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The car that you can read the licence plate on is like 4-5 meters away , the others are too far away. To take a pic of those you need a better camera.
d3f said:
Please attach pictures from Wildfire camera to make a comparison.
L.H.
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Hi!
My Wildfire takes nice pistures. A few examples in attached rar.
I think there is something wrong with your camera or settings.
Check your settings in camera. Look if you have 5M resolution and HIGH quality.
Link to images: http://www.4shared.com/get/pY7tq4l-/Wildfire.html
d3f said:
Hello buddies,
I have problem with my Wildfire camera. Pictures are very blurry. When I shot a car from 4-5 meters the car number can be recognized.
I took the phone many times to garantee service but they did not repair or change the phone.
Please attach pictures from Wildfire camera to make a comparison.
L.H.
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That looks like a halfway decent picture.
Hows about some basic information first?
-What ROM are you using? (Custom or Stock)
-What Camera App Are you Using?
-Have You Messed Around With Any Settings?
These are important things to consider and can have an effect on the quality of pictures taken.
Also, you must realise that although capable of 5MP photos, the quality of the lens is not that good, therefore the end result is the quality of the photo's suffer. But for a telephone, it isnt too bad.
Hi!
The picture looks quite ok. Try to set autofocus off, that helped my Wildfire to take beter shots.
Now my Wildfire is in second service for testing.
I tried everything with settings(autofocus is ON and HIGH quality), I think that there is hardware problem but from first service I left the phone tells me that the phone is ok.
I do not know how to prove that the phone is not ok. Reseller company from which I bought the phone tells me that HTC Wildfire camera makes worst pictures than QVGA camera?!?!
The ROM is HTC stock with the last update and I'm using the default camera application.
I wanted to make a comparison with other Wildfire phones.
I will write to HTC with question is there a bad seria with camera problems ...
d3f said:
Hello buddies,
I have problem with my Wildfire camera. Pictures are very blurry. When I shot a car from 4-5 meters the car number can be recognized.
I took the phone many times to garantee service but they did not repair or change the phone.
Please attach pictures from Wildfire camera to make a comparison.
L.H.
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men, is that you workplace ?, how is the name of the company you work.. i think looks quite familiar to me
brecha said:
men, is that you workplace ?, how is the name of the company you work.. i think looks quite familiar to me
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My company is HP Reseller, the picture is from EXPO 2000.
But it's not a question in that thread.
If you have a Wildfire, please attach some pictures, if you could show us pictures from where I'm working taken with Wildfire, it may helps me.
Here I'm attaching other pictures taken with my Wildfire ...
Use taping on the screen instead of using tracker when taking photos. You have to tap and hold the area that you want to focused.
I couldn't upload more because most of my photos are personal
And don't forget to maximize sharpness in settings.
zephyri-xr said:
Use taping on the screen instead of using tracker when taking photos. You have to tap and hold the area that you want to focused.
I couldn't upload more because most of my photos are personal
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I tried to capture with taping on the screen ... nothing better ...
I wrote to HTC ... now I am waiting for reply and proposal...
Hello,
it must be definitelly problem only with your camera. My WF makes pics not bad at all. But have to say that my previous E52 made better ones :-/
how can you get such a high quality picture?
have you changed any setting? if so please specify
i hardly get pictures in Mbs. its always near 700 or 800kbs
also if object is moving then the image is blurry
No, I am running absolutelly stock photocamera soft with high quality photos (you can set it in setting), 5Mpix. Photo quality depends mostly on light conditions.

Rubbish Camera!!

hello guys,
my camera is rubbish, i mean while moving the phone and watching the camera view everything is blurred (dont tell me focus), and when taking a video it records that nonsense
Are you using the Stock HTC ROM? If so what settings are you using? I had no problems with the quality of the Camera or Camcorder.
andyharney said:
Are you using the Stock HTC ROM? If so what settings are you using? I had no problems with the quality of the Camera or Camcorder.
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Revolution HD 1.7, i dont remember the quality on the stock rom, but i think it was better
omg now its very good, i did nothing :S
yesterday i was in a trip to the wild, imagine how many great pictures i missed :S, maybe because i was in the night?? but why do it lag in the night?
Generally pictures taken at night don't look very good. As the the camera sensor cannot pull in enough light.
Next time your out taking snaps at night try adjusting the ISO settings, that could also create more "noise" in your photo. Test and adjust until you find a happy medium.
andyharney said:
Generally pictures taken at night don't look very good. As the the camera sensor cannot pull in enough light.
Next time your out taking snaps at night try adjusting the ISO settings, that could also create more "noise" in your photo. Test and adjust until you find a happy medium.
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thnx for the help bro
No problem at all.

Which camera app?

Just got the phone today and I'm really enjoying it. Camera seems to take pretty decent photos, I'm just not liking the UI of the stock app itself. What are you guys using?
cas239 said:
Just got the phone today and I'm really enjoying it. Camera seems to take pretty decent photos, I'm just not liking the UI of the stock app itself. What are you guys using?
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Stock.
If you use another camera, it won't work with the Moto wrist flick action.
Darnell_Chat_TN said:
Stock.
If you use another camera, it won't work with the Moto wrist flick action.
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Yea, I figured as much. I can almost live without that though. Coming from a Note 4 and i'm used to touch to focus.
cas239 said:
Yea, I figured as much. I can almost live without that though. Coming from a Note 4 and i'm used to touch to focus.
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The Moto camera app has touch to focus. You just have to turn off the auto focus..
I'm trying to live with the Moto camera app....I also like it for the barcode scanner...... But, I found the HTC One camera app here on XDA. I've used that app for the last 3 years and have always wished it was available for other phones. It's in the Android apps and games section (here's the link to the thread): http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/themes-apps/mod-htc-one-m9-camera-gallery-t3143538 I like the gallery too.
I've also tried MANY other cameras and the one I like the best so far, and it's new, is: ProShot
I also like Camera FV-5..... I just purchased it today. The 3.0 update that's coming out looks pretty good, that's why I got it now. I don't like the 21mp ratio aspect and if you change it, it takes off 5mp, but we'll see what happens?
Also like: A Better Camera - pretty good, but don't like the UI
AZ Camera - Manual Pro Cam - Just tried it this week, seems ok for a freebie
Open Camera - This one really impressed me for a free camera
Snap Camera - Looks like an upgrade to Open Camera, but I have some "touch" issues with it from time to time
Cameringo+ Effects camera - It has great reviews and 4.6 stars, but I just didn't like the UI either.
CameraMX - Pretty good for a freebie too
Google Camera - It's Google Camera Not much more to say
I plan on messing around with Camera FV-5 tonight to get a better feel for it......But I'll probably always use the Moto camera for the ease of access to it.
Thanks for the suggestions. Do any one of the cemera apps you mentioned allow users to manually set e.g. ISO? (I don't own a MXPE yet so I can't test this myself)
tele_jas said:
I'm trying to live with the Moto camera app....I also like it for the barcode scanner...... But, I found the HTC One camera app here on XDA. I've used that app for the last 3 years and have always wished it was available for other phones. It's in the Android apps and games section (here's the link to the thread): http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/themes-apps/mod-htc-one-m9-camera-gallery-t3143538 I like the gallery too.
I've also tried MANY other cameras and the one I like the best so far, and it's new, is: ProShot
I also like Camera FV-5..... I just purchased it today. The 3.0 update that's coming out looks pretty good, that's why I got it now. I don't like the 21mp ratio aspect and if you change it, it takes off 5mp, but we'll see what happens?
Also like: A Better Camera - pretty good, but don't like the UI
AZ Camera - Manual Pro Cam - Just tried it this week, seems ok for a freebie
Open Camera - This one really impressed me for a free camera
Snap Camera - Looks like an upgrade to Open Camera, but I have some "touch" issues with it from time to time
Cameringo+ Effects camera - It has great reviews and 4.6 stars, but I just didn't like the UI either.
CameraMX - Pretty good for a freebie too
Google Camera - It's Google Camera Not much more to say
I plan on messing around with Camera FV-5 tonight to get a better feel for it......But I'll probably always use the Moto camera for the ease of access to it.
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Thanks for the suggestions. Do any one of the cemera apps you mentioned allow users to manually set e.g. ISO? (I don't own a MXPE yet so I can't test this myself)
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Yeah, most of those do.
The Camera FV-5 and Cameringo+ are capable of being almost fully manual. The ProShot has several of those too and the HTC camera even has several manual settings. Not sure about the others, I didn't explore them that much? Pretty sure they'll say in the description? If you get it narrowed down or need more specific info, I can *try* to help by downloading (one I own) and trying something with it? I'm a little restricted on time later this week, headed to St Louis for a business meeting (and Cardinal's game).
Are any of these apps able to shoot 720p in 120 fps? In the other cameras I have tried, I get a pop-up saying fps over thirty isn't supported even on 720p
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Yeah, most of those do.
The Camera FV-5 and Cameringo+ are capable of being almost fully manual. The ProShot has several of those too and the HTC camera even has several manual settings. Not sure about the others, I didn't explore them that much? Pretty sure they'll say in the description? If you get it narrowed down or need more specific info, I can *try* to help by downloading (one I own) and trying something with it? I'm a little restricted on time later this week, headed to St Louis for a business meeting (and Cardinal's game).
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Thanks! When you get a chance, could you use one of these apps to take a couple of photos in low light setting, and see if manually setting the ISO and/or (probably and?!) extending the exposure time would improve the camera's low light performance (without flash)? You probably need a (very?) steady hand
THANKS!
case-sensitive said:
Thanks! When you get a chance, could you use one of these apps to take a couple of photos in low light setting, and see if manually setting the ISO and/or (probably and?!) extending the exposure time would improve the camera's low light performance (without flash)? You probably need a (very?) steady hand
THANKS!
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Well, I had a few minuted today, so here's the setup..... I play in a band (just a weekend thing), so I went into my music room (aka, my bedroom) and turned off the light, but left the door half-way open and the hall light on... I then took some pics of my gear.
I snapped several pictures using 4 different apps.... There was almost no difference with any of the apps vs the Moto camera as far as quality goes. One disappointing thing, when I tried to change the ISO, 3 of the 4 apps crashed and the 4th didn't allow me to click on the different speeds?? It's almost like the ISO is locked to auto? They all offered a "night mode" which made it brighter, but added quite a bit of noise. There was also an exposure compensation that brightened up the image, but basically did the same thing as night mode and added noise.
I didn't post any of the images, since there was no difference and it wasn't the best of settings. I'll try to get some better testing this evening and see if I get anything worth posting?
The stock camera sucks, because it doesn't have different pic sizes. Only 16m for 4:3 or 21m on 16:9. Witch results in huge file sizes. I take a lot of pics for work and 2m is big enough. The lack of options is weird.
I have tried a bunch of camera apps with this phone.
Stock camera .....very poor quality compared to other apps.
These are the best (not in order):
Snap camera ...takes great pictures, probably the best of the three with the right settings ..... but currently buggy though with this phone ...auto-focus is not that sharp in low light, touch to capture works great and takes sharp focused pictures but is buggy (you often have to double tap to capture, but if you can live with that until it's fixed..) and also the video mode doesn't currently work
Camera FV-5 ....very good quality pics, sharp, detailed, on par with snap, no bugs found
Open Camera ....Very good quality pics, auto focus works best of all the apps, or on par with Camera FV-5 ...no bugs found ....video mode works ....and it's free
Does this app like snap camera or open camera drain more battery than stock caméra ?
Took this one last night at the St Louis Cardinals game.. The post game fireworks.. Not too bad for stock, set on automatic.
Darnell_Chat_TN said:
Stock.
If you use another camera, it won't work with the Moto wrist flick action.
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Stock is ok but wow does the files really have to be so large. Kinda stupid. You don't have enough control to change picture size before taking a pic. Most of the time I am just emailing and texting pics you don't need a 7MB pic for that.

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