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Has any1 tried to increase (hack/regedit/hexedit, or thirdparty app, homebrew app, etc.) the resolution of video capture. With an Overclocked CPU what do y'all think is the highest resolution captured possible w/ this 2M camera. 1280x720p? 1920x1080i/p?. I know there are HD camcorders out there w/ less CPU power but dedicated chips for video encoding. How difficult to write such an app? Any tips to get started? Much thanks.

It's a 2mp camera so the max resolution is 1600x1200 if you go past that you start to get ripping/tearing and the images look ugly (I believe). It would be nice if the camera recorded in a higher quality/resolution I just don't know if that's possible with the hardware.

kraftey said:
It's a 2mp camera so the max resolution is 1600x1200 if you go past that you start to get ripping/tearing and the images look ugly (I believe). It would be nice if the camera recorded in a higher quality/resolution I just don't know if that's possible with the hardware.
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I don't have the phone yet. But I believe that the current App only allows a much lower res than 1600x1200 for video capturing, such as 640x480. Still image is possible up to 1600x1200. Pls chime in current owners. Thanks.

For sure this would be a great improvement, but as you all know PPC camera's are complete ****. I doubt that anything like this is possible but I would love for someone to prove me wrong.

wickedwings said:
I don't have the phone yet. But I believe that the current App only allows a much lower res than 1600x1200 for video capturing, such as 640x480. Still image is possible up to 1600x1200. Pls chime in current owners. Thanks.
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Heh the standard camera app won't let you get past 176x144 in movie mode. You might be able to squeeze a jolty 320x240 clip out of your phone when using a third party app such as CoolCamera and overclocking the crap out of your chip, but 640x480 is off limits by far. The camera on these things is slow and not nearly as sophisticated as a camcorder. You'll have to wait another few years

Try to use Ateksoft "Cool caera" or Webcamera plus.
You can get ebtter pics and videos with Coolcamera.....
Up to 640x480 and more.
But Highdefinition is something else
http://ateksoft.com/

improve videorecordings?

hi,
is there a way to improve the quality of video recordings (vga) of my x1? Ive got also an nokia 5800 and the recordings of these phone are much better (they have less fragments and barley no buckings)...
The nokia has just 369MHz and 128 Ram, the X1 528 and 256 Ram there must be a way to get better video recording on the x1!!!

im with you!

If only we can up the bit rate a bit (It's not mpeg 4 so you need higher bitrate for that resolution video.....)
+1

but then do You believe that xperia is powerful enough for higher bitrates?

Maybe old Ateksoft CoolCamera works on Xperia? It records with MJPEG (Less CPU power needed).

bronx said:
but then do You believe that xperia is powerful enough for higher bitrates?
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I'm sure it can! If all other phones with slower procesors can do it, why not xperia?
QUOTE: The nokia has just 369MHz and 128 Ram, the X1 528 and 256 Ram there must be a way to get better video recording on the x1!!!

biokeks said:
Maybe old Ateksoft CoolCamera works on Xperia? It records with MJPEG (Less CPU power needed).
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Ive tried 1.15 wont work...

Perhaps SE has improved the camera hardware...? I have a X1i 08W51 and 09W03 and the difference in picture and video rec. is immediately clear! Both have now the R3AA and the new(!) R3AA camera w/autoflash and GPS!

How do I check when my X1 was made?
Yesterday night I tried to recorde with the flash light, Im so disappointed about that Sony calls this a flash, you cant take a picture with this thing at night, its nothing really nothing. I compered it with my nokia 5800, tha flash light of it is 3-4 brighter...

michaelthemage said:
Perhaps SE has improved the camera hardware...? I have a X1i 08W51 and 09W03 and the difference in picture and video rec. is immediately clear
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Very interesting.. maybe you can upload some files to let us see and compare the quality?

I have here a 08W47 tomorrow Ill recieve a 09W04 and 09W16 then Ill recorde a video for comparison...
Greets

720p Recording on HD2 with Android

Well since Android is progressing well and they've started getting the camera working (I know this from HTC-Linux's Twitter) and since Android can actually play 720p as opposed to when Winmo is running it can't. And with the camera hack for the Nexus One that allowed it to record 720p I was just theorizing that there may be a possibility of recording 720p on HD2 while you're running Android? To me it would make sense but I know nothing of hardware specs vs software vs decoding speed vs screen resolution so I was curious as to what all other people reading this thread or Developers may have to say to this.

Bump...........

Indeed it would be nice to have HD recording on HD2, but you'll still have to take into consideration the fact that it is still early and lots of other bugs need to be fixed before such "luxurious" details can be looked over by the devs.

Not to mention the fact that the sound on the video recorder on the hd2 is bloody awful to say the least. I used to have an n95 and that wiped the floor with the hd2. I would be more interested in better sound.

The HD2's photo quality is limited by the lens, not the operating system on the phone. The N95 features a Carl Zeiss lens which enables it to take great pictures. Resolution is highly overrated when it comes to photo quality.

polo735 said:
The HD2's photo quality is limited by the lens, not the operating system on the phone. The N95 features a Carl Zeiss lens which enables it to take great pictures. Resolution is highly overrated when it comes to photo quality.
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elgrego4 said:
Not to mention the fact that the sound on the video recorder on the hd2 is bloody awful to say the least. I used to have an n95 and that wiped the floor with the hd2. I would be more interested in better sound.
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im not with you in this
see (dont forget to put it at high quality 480p on youtube for best quality)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX6Jx9gDR_I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWlHUFnvKP8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfpmqPJwcMM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cba7yo5SwNk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfpmqPJwcMM
one of the best videos i recorded
but i also want 720p

I know I may sound stupid and I'll accept peoples input if this does but I just think that if the Nexus One camera can get a hack to support 720p and the HD2 was relatively released in the same 3-4 month period (may seem long I know) it just makes me think that the HD2's camera should qualify for getting the same hack when running android and yes it does deal with winmo because HD2 can't run 720p videos normally through the Winmo OS but as demonstrated the Linux Kernel on HD2 was able to play a 720p HD video.

Just tried the new Desire V4 Build and it indeed has camera support so if any dev wants to look into it by all means.

polo735 said:
The HD2's photo quality is limited by the lens, not the operating system on the phone. The N95 features a Carl Zeiss lens which enables it to take great pictures. Resolution is highly overrated when it comes to photo quality.
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Nah, I would bet it's the sensor more than anything.

I'm not talking about the pic quality, its the sound quality. It is very distorted and tinny. I was at a concert with my gf who recorded the same song on her average sony phone. The difference in the quality was shocking.

I actually think the video and picture performance are quite good, then again I came from a touch HD which was terrible. There is no hardware reason why this phone cannot do, in fact the hardware can defo record / decode HD but how easy it will be to get this to work in Andriod is anyones guess.
I am actually planning to keep this phone a while as IMHO it is still the best looking phone out there, the droids are too clunky and the samsungs are about 3 years behind in design.
I'm hoping we can get a full working full installable ROM soon so I can ditch winmo altogether.
Then again I only have 11 months left on my HD2 so something else may catch my eye - I dont think it will be winmo7 though as it looks dull as fnck.

polo735 said:
The HD2's photo quality is limited by the lens, not the operating system on the phone. The N95 features a Carl Zeiss lens which enables it to take great pictures. Resolution is highly overrated when it comes to photo quality.
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yes the n95s lens was a zeiss, but that was just a name!
The lens was cheap thin glass, just like any other mobile phone lens ever made. There is a reason zeiss prime lenses go for £20k and upwards, I agree with you on that!
and your spot on about resolution being no way near as important as a good sized sensor, and good optics.
But one of the main reasons mobile phone video looks so crap, is the low resolution its always been recorded at! You look at some phones that can record 720 and it looks a damn sight better than the vga recordings, Mostly because It doesn't need to be stretched out and destroted like low res' video does

I definately haven't experienced problems with the mike for the HD2, I've recorded videos with my friends and they come out very well in reference to sound and there IS alot of sound in a concert so I wouldn't be surprised if audio you recorded at a concert would sound bad.

lonelykatana said:
yes the n95s lens was a zeiss, but that was just a name!
The lens was cheap thin glass, just like any other mobile phone lens ever made. There is a reason zeiss prime lenses go for £20k and upwards, I agree with you on that!
and your spot on about resolution being no way near as important as a good sized sensor, and good optics.
But one of the main reasons mobile phone video looks so crap, is the low resolution its always been recorded at! You look at some phones that can record 720 and it looks a damn sight better than the vga recordings, Mostly because It doesn't need to be stretched out and destroted like low res' video does
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I always did wonder why the HD2's video quality only went up to VGA even though it has a WVGA screen, 0.o.

skrizzyboy said:
I definately haven't experienced problems with the mike for the HD2, I've recorded videos with my friends and they come out very well in reference to sound and there IS alot of sound in a concert so I wouldn't be surprised if audio you recorded at a concert would sound bad.
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What im trying to point out is that lots of other (older, cheaper) phones record better sound. My missus used a w995 and It is much better sound.

granted sound probably isnt the HD2's stongpoint but the video performance is comparable with other models. Yes it could be better but it will only get better though enabling it in Android.

Any update on the 720p on htc hd2 ??? I would pay the person 100 us dollars if they get the 720p recording on htc hd2 with android !!

skrizzyboy said:
I always did wonder why the HD2's video quality only went up to VGA even though it has a WVGA screen, 0.o.
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lol! mine records in WVGA(800x480) and has the option to record 720p(1280x720) but when i try it camera shuts down.. so the best a can record is WVGA plus the frame rate seems to be a bit smoother than normal HD2 VGA recording

Dani01c said:
lol! mine records in WVGA(800x480) and has the option to record 720p(1280x720) but when i try it camera shuts down.. so the best a can record is WVGA plus the frame rate seems to be a bit smoother than normal HD2 VGA recording
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how does it have that option? and cant that just be a vid codec error?(which can be fixed)

Any news about 720p recording in android?Is a driver still in development? I would like to try wp7 only for the hd recording ability,seems good

Desire HD camera sensor.

Hello guys...
I have DHD rooted so I was searching some files with root explorer and I found this:
In sys/android_camera there is a file with name sensor.
So I opened this file with Root Explorer (View as text) and inside I saw the model of camera sensor that DHD uses and it's the OmniVision ov8810 8M...
After a little search in the web I found the official description of this sensor and you can find it here http://www.ovt.com/products/sensor.php?id=61#specifications.
From the Product Specifications you can see that the sensor can take video at 1080p.
So I assumed that we have the hardware but we miss the software...
Am I right???

Interesting. It can even take 720p in 60FPS, which would be veeery nice.

Ohh, interesting...

This does not surprise me. HTC is well-known for hampering their cameras. Maybe in an OTA later on or some crafty XDAer will check this out. I suggest PM'ing the ones who got 720p on the various other phones so they can check this out.
By the way, if my thoughts are correct and my eyes don't fool me, it says "10 @ Full"... even though I'm thinking this is full 8mp @ 10fps recording, this just does not seem real. No way in hell.

1080p? Honestly? I mean, it barely manages to capture [email protected]*, let alone [email protected], not to mention 1080p. I know DHD is one of the most powerful phone today, but I seriously doubt it has enough grunt to record at anything over 720p. Of course, I would be very glad if I could be proven wrong, but I'm affraid it won't happen .
Most of all, I would like to see it record video in [email protected] properly, especially in low(ish) light conditions.
On the brighter side, the image sensor does seem to be able to record in [email protected], [email protected] or indeed 10fps in full res, but I imagine it would require pretty fast memory card.
*Or it could be just stock SD card write speed limitation, but I doubt it.

gsmarena.com has been bashing the DHD's camera, in their latest review of the SE arc they even say that DHD is worthy of a true 8 megapixel camera comparison
i'm not on the latest rom so i can't tell if they've really made any improvements on the camera quality and i haven't been taking enough pictures to judge but i think there's no point in having 1080*60fps if the quality of the videos is ****

jeRrRKKKK said:
in their latest review of the SE arc they even say that DHD is worthy of a true 8 megapixel camera comparison
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They said DHD is not worthy of a true 8 megapixel camera comparison. Corrected that for you.

bobale said:
They said DHD is not worthy of a true 8 megapixel camera comparison. Corrected that for you.
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DHD can't match the quality of my 7mp camera. Lenses make all the difference, megapixels alone are pretty useless.
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I use a custom ROM that is based in 1.72 and I have a class10 MicroSD and the video on 720p is very good with no lags...
So the thing I mentioned in first post is that the hardware seems to be capable to shoot in 30 @ 1080p.
No if the phone with all other parts is capable is another thing that some developers could answer...

sengork said:
DHD can't match the quality of my 7mp camera. Lenses make all the difference, megapixels alone are pretty useless.
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Bang on!
But as a phone I fell DHDs camera is good enough, well for me anyway.
I would certainly like to see how the phone would handle 1080p recording lol, just for fun.

The CPU does not support video encoding above 720p 30fps.

leppie said:
The CPU does not support video encoding above 720p 30fps.
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Only the dual cores that comeing up to future phones support encoding above 720p??

Frankly, DHD can't match my Nokia N95 from 2007, let alone my Sony 4mpix camera from 2006.

my one is different
samsung S5K3H1GX 8M
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Really???
That's strange... HTC put different hardware in the same device???
That's not fare cause I assume that Samsung's sensor might be better than mine...

Mine has a samsung S5K3H1GX 8M
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kalagas said:
Really???
That's strange... HTC put different hardware in the same device???
That's not fare cause I assume that Samsung's sensor might be better than mine...
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Mine also has a samsung S5K3H1GX 8M, and I can assure you it can't be better than yours

I like taking photos, but I never expected a phone to do too much.
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kalagas said:
Really???
That's strange... HTC put different hardware in the same device???
That's not fare cause I assume that Samsung's sensor might be better than mine...
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I have no qualms about the camera, for me it is 3 times better than my old Touch HD

how to check ? mind have guides please ?

Skype with receiving Videochat now for Desire HD

Skype videochat is now avaiable for desire hd
but you cant send videos, but receive videos
Sound is no Problem.
here a detail link:
http://www.androidnews.de/skype-2-0-videochat-dank-gehackter-apk-auch-auf-anderen-geraten

Thanks for the heads-up, but just for the record, I'm pretty sure you'd get a much better response if you link was in English.

ViousAD said:
Thanks for the heads-up, but just for the record, I'm pretty sure you'd get a much better response if you link was in English.
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Much better .
@topic:
I'm waiting when I will can send Videos .

Vessarius said:
Much better .
@topic:
I'm waiting when I will can send Videos .
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Like... never??? When I bought my DHD I was like "I've had a mobile with a front facing camera for 5 years and actually have used it less than 5 times. So I can go along with the missing front camera." The only way to send video is with the rear camera, which as far as I know supports only higt resolution vidos. If it could capturre video at 640x480 @30fps that would be great for video talk, but only on high speed connection, cause of the data transfer.

Good news, finally I can see my partner again
As for video recording... Could be very difficult on our beloved DHDs. Without a front facing camera I would loose the "can see" part just gained with this update. However... If the rear facing camera could be used, you could hold your device in front of a mirror to see the screen (and your partner) again
Would be very interested in seeing traffic statistics...

Nice, hope I can use rear camera for video on DHD.
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SPhcT said:
Nice, hope I can use rear camera for video on DHD.
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Me 2...this will be awesome.

Hi,
I tried skype 2.0 on my DHD, and the video call is not working. I tried it on stock and then on V. Unity ROM..
I think, that can be hardware faulire. Could you please help me?
thx,
brgs,
Herold